2013.02.04 13:00 - layer by layer, and step by step

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    [13:14] Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Korel :)
    [13:14] Korel Laloix: heya... in and out a bit.
    [13:14] Korel Laloix: Good to see you though.
    [13:14] Catrinamonblue Resident: k
    [13:16] Korel Laloix: Slow day today I guess.
    [13:16] Catrinamonblue Resident: yes but that's ok I could use the quiet

    [13:17] Catrinamonblue Resident: are you a patient person Korel?
    [13:18] Korel Laloix: In some things yes.
    [13:18] Korel Laloix: I make long term plans and stick with them.
    [13:18] Korel Laloix: But I dont like having my time wasted.
    [13:18] Catrinamonblue Resident: yes
    [13:18] Catrinamonblue Resident: I like long term plans too
    [13:18] Catrinamonblue Resident: but mine had a wrench thrown in :)
    [13:19] Korel Laloix: That always happens.

    [13:19] Korel Laloix: Everyone has a plan that won't work.... brb
    [13:19] Catrinamonblue Resident: k

    [13:21] Korel Laloix: Well I hope your get worked out.. bad frustrations...
    [13:21] Korel Laloix: brb
    [13:22] Catrinamonblue Resident: patience seems to be the key to letting things work themselves out :)
    [13:22] Catrinamonblue Resident: some days I can do it some days I am just breathing moment by moment

    [13:22] Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Xs :)
    [13:23] Korel Laloix: Heya
    [13:23] Xs Andree: Hey Korel, Cat.
    [13:23] Korel Laloix: I grew up in an environment where I was giving no real options about anything.
    [13:23] Korel Laloix: So my psychological need for choices may be low compared to some.
    [13:23] Catrinamonblue Resident: just talking about being patient when a wrench gets thrown in your plans
    [13:24] Catrinamonblue Resident: my growing up was similar Korel, a control freak mother
    [13:24] Catrinamonblue Resident: when she said jump we said how high :)

    [13:27] Catrinamonblue Resident: Xs are you a patient person?
    [13:32] Xs Andree: usually. Sometimes I can be impatient.
    [13:32] Catrinamonblue Resident: like when?
    [13:33] Korel Laloix: I sort of think impatience is easier to learn than patience.
    [13:38] Catrinamonblue Resident: sry guys I gtg go :)
    [13:38] Catrinamonblue Resident: bye all :)
    [13:47] Xs Andree: sirry back

    [13:47] Xs Andree: I've a friend in a lot of legal trouble, likely more than she deserves.
    [13:49] Korel Laloix: I am at work so in and out.
    [13:52] Xs Andree: heh, i have work finally, it is just burger king, but better than nothing.
    [13:52] Xs Andree: I worked fast food for ten years before I resolved to never work it again.

    [13:53] Xs Andree: I actually like the work though, and i'm damn good at it. my coworkers are very impressed with my work.
    [13:55] Korel Laloix: never did that job...
    [13:55] Xs Andree: over the last year I've been practicing manifesting, turning my desires into reality.
    [13:55] Korel Laloix: Well, at a starbucks for a semester.
    [13:55] Xs Andree: it has only been recently that I"ve done any manifesting for myself, though. I always felt guilty doing it for myself
    [13:55] Xs Andree: yay Starbucks.
    [13:56] Xs Andree: it has changed quite a bit of things. Manifesting is turning your inner desires into your external world.
    [13:56] Xs Andree: so...you have to work on yourself to do it effectively.

    [13:56] Korel Laloix: I try to work on myself daily.
    [13:56] Korel Laloix: I fail a lot though.

    [13:56] Xs Andree: manifesting is the epitome of the phrase "be the change you envision in the world"
    [13:57] Xs Andree: yeah, I do too. The nice thing is though, that it is harder to fail at something you know how to do..
    [13:57] Xs Andree: than it is to do something right that you don't know how to do.
    [13:57] Xs Andree: so you only have to succeed once
    [13:58] Xs Andree: after that, failing gets harder to do, the more you succeed.

    [13:58] Korel Laloix: Just so many things to work on.

    [13:59] Xs Andree: I've had the same issue. over the last year though it seems that I'm on a tailored path that I know little about
    [13:59] Xs Andree: But each step has led me to the next that I need for working on my internal stuff.
    [14:00] Xs Andree: I hadn't even studied manifesting until a month ago, and I discovered that I'd been through nearly all the steps everyone else reports.
    [14:01] Xs Andree: so i have independent verification through my own experience that 1) it is real and 2) anyone can do it, with or without help. All that you need to succeed is within you. Help comes as you ask for it.
    [14:02] Xs Andree: each step leads you to the next, once you complete a step, it is done, you know what you are doing, and a new one is presented.

    [14:02] Xs Andree: I've been dissolving the trauma of my life, there is so much more than I wanted to see, more than I could have faced at once.
    [14:03] Xs Andree: it comes up, feeling like this...sticky black, spiritual tar, it sucks, but once it is clear, it is gone,
    [14:03] Xs Andree: Then there is rest, and time to get ready for the next step.

    [14:03] Korel Laloix: I know the feeling.
    [14:04] Korel Laloix: Just frustrated with all the layers.
    [14:04] Korel Laloix: i just get desperate to be mentally well sometimes.

    [14:04] Xs Andree: Be patient. Yeah, layer upon layer...like escavating fossils.
    [14:05] Xs Andree: pay attention to signs and omens...things which happen that jump out at you. They are signposts, not the road, but they help to keep you going.
    [14:05] Xs Andree: learn to trust your intuition.
    [14:06] Xs Andree: and learn the difference between intuition and instinct. instinct is valuable, but it can be wrong much more often than intuition.

    [14:06] Ankel Resident: hi
    [14:06] Korel Laloix: Hyea
    [14:06] Ankel Resident: how are u
    [14:06] Xs Andree: Hey Elyen
    [14:06] Xs Andree: those are the things i've learned so far.
    [14:06] Korel Laloix: Good... at work so busy though.
    [14:06] Ankel Resident: =)
    [14:06] Ankel Resident: can i sit with u?
    [14:07] Ankel Resident: wol is not here?
    [14:08] Xs Andree: sure, go ahead, everyone is welcome.
    [14:08] Ankel Resident: merci
    [14:08] Xs Andree: are you new here?
    [14:08] Ankel Resident: yes

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