2013.03.27 07:00 - Memoirs

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    The Guardian was Zen Arado. Comments by Zen Arado.

    Session was in Kira because of restart at pavilion area.

    Reading and writing:

    Zen (zen.arado): Hi Eliza :)
    Zen (zen.arado): nice sari :)
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): just IMing with SzavannaSun
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): thank you :)
    Zen (zen.arado): is it?
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes it is
    Zen (zen.arado): scared I was wrong :)
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me smiles... what would be the consequences of being wrong
    Zen (zen.arado): a faux pas ?
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): true... dreadful
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
    Zen (zen.arado): :)
    Zen (zen.arado): might have to leave suddenly if social worker comes
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): sure
    Zen (zen.arado): she wanted to come yesterday but I had cleaning ladies
    Zen (zen.arado): woud be vacuuming around us etc
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me nods... sounds like a palace
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
    Zen (zen.arado): hmm not very tidy palace
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): heheh
    Zen (zen.arado): too many books
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): even with kindle?
    Zen (zen.arado): Kindle is such a blessing
    Zen (zen.arado): I had to but a peperback for first time for about a year and find it so awkward
    Zen (zen.arado): buy
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I am still resisting that... so much of my way of connection and learning is with a screen meditating
    Zen (zen.arado): especially reading in bed
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): mediating*
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): oh, true... am sure the light from the kindle is a blessing too for that
    Zen (zen.arado): writing course they keep on about writing in notebooks but I am jjust about to stop that
    Zen (zen.arado): no light from my Kindle
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): is it over, or are you finished?
    Zen (zen.arado): one of the reasons it is better...no glare
    Zen (zen.arado): doesn't finish until end of May
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): it has been hard to tell whether you've found it enjoyable/helpful.etc from what you've said
    Zen (zen.arado): I have three assignments close together
    Zen (zen.arado): yes enjoyable but hard work
    Zen (zen.arado): poetry criticism was particularly helpful
    Zen (zen.arado): I realise how little I know about writing poetry
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): me too
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I just write
    Zen (zen.arado): you have to spend ages redrafting polishing words and phrases
    Zen (zen.arado): finding better imagery
    Zen (zen.arado): and rhymes if you use them
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): in general I'm not a very original person... I absorb others' rhythms and jump into streams
    Zen (zen.arado): everyone does
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): if I am reading a particular author I find myself speaking/writing like they do
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): like something out of another time...
    Zen (zen.arado): yes..inspiring
    Zen (zen.arado): you have to reads lots of poetry to be able to write it too
    Zen (zen.arado): I am on memoir atm
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): after taking this course do you dislike hearing poetry that is obviously not polished?
    Zen (zen.arado): not sure whether to wqrite prose of poems
    Zen (zen.arado): hmm not sure
    Zen (zen.arado): but have learned more what good poetry is
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
    Zen (zen.arado): lots of good imagery seems key
    Zen (zen.arado): not too many adjectives
    Zen (zen.arado): my poems can be too 'prosy' too
    Zen (zen.arado): not totally sure wht that means
    Zen (zen.arado): not enough imagery I guess
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): have you written anything that you then stood back from and felt satisfied with?
    Zen (zen.arado): no :)
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
    Zen (zen.arado): not any more
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): loss of innocence
    Zen (zen.arado): though I did my best tutor still finds so many faults
    Zen (zen.arado): should post you a copy of what she said
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): is she the same with everyone?
    Zen (zen.arado): ah some better than me, some worse
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): well... remember the worst horse....
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me giggles
    Zen (zen.arado): one woman came up with great imagery on the forum
    Zen (zen.arado): she points out how the poems could be improved but I haven't time to do that atm
    Zen (zen.arado): am tempted to write more poetry just to get the critiques
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me smiles
    Zen (zen.arado): we have to research publishers next assignment
    Zen (zen.arado): and submit something
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): excellent
    Zen (zen.arado): print publishing seems to be going out of fashion i think
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): does she also tell you what you particularly are good at?
    Zen (zen.arado): oh yes she is fair
    Zen (zen.arado): points out good and bad

    Memoir and memory:

    Zen (zen.arado): trouble with memoir is memory
    Zen (zen.arado): it is so unreliable
    Zen (zen.arado): and I forget details
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but isn't that why one would write a memoir rather than autobiography? to have some creative room?
    Zen (zen.arado): actually such a fine line between memoir and fiction
    Zen (zen.arado): though I feel my memories are accurate
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes...one thing that is interesting... when writing memoir, is that "major events" don't necessarily weigh more than so-called minor ones
    Zen (zen.arado): I found friends from 50 years ago in Australia had different versions of events
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): a person one knew for a small window may "matter" as much as someone there for the whole life fr instance
    Zen (zen.arado): yes
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ah, that's fascinating when that happens
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): or, how others see you v how one sees themself
    Zen (zen.arado): I am writing a memoir of migration to Australia
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): when someone says "oh you were always _____"
    Zen (zen.arado): yes
    Zen (zen.arado): funny but I have left out most of sea voyage
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): interesting!
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): did you ask yourself why?
    Zen (zen.arado): contrasting life in Belfast with new life in Australia
    Zen (zen.arado): it was pretty boring
    Zen (zen.arado): and I can't remember much of it
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me smiles... well you remember the boredom, can write that
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): lol
    Zen (zen.arado): only ports and then it is like someone's holiday stories
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): do you have things you didn't know you remember, but then you begin to write and they pour out in detail?
    Zen (zen.arado): I don't remember what I did all day when we were at sea for maybe 10 day stretches
    Zen (zen.arado): no it is just too long ago
    Zen (zen.arado): and I started to write it in linear fashion
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): when I begin to write linear I know the writing is dead
    Zen (zen.arado): I even researched how long the boat spent between ports
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but that can be helpful for an outline
    Zen (zen.arado): you need to describe characters
    Zen (zen.arado): you just need a 'through line'
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): have to have trust that your audience can make the leaps and loops with you
    Zen (zen.arado): then write episodes
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ah... say more about the 'through line" ?
    Zen (zen.arado): well the through line is migration in this instance
    Zen (zen.arado): so I start with my first job in Australia
    Zen (zen.arado): then ca bit about the voyage, then my life in Belfast, then back to Australia
    Zen (zen.arado): but only have 1500 words for this one
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ? typo?
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): 1500 words allowed in total?
    Zen (zen.arado): yes
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yikes... like a short PaB session
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): well... chopping down can be fun
    Zen (zen.arado): we have 2000 words next one and 2500 for last which is a project
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I see
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): that's great actually
    Zen (zen.arado): 1500 words or 40 lines of poetry
    Zen (zen.arado): also have to write a 500 word commentary for each
    Zen (zen.arado): explaining why we did what
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): goodness... memoir of memoir
    Zen (zen.arado): shows what we have learned from courses
    Zen (zen.arado): how it all came together
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): so in that vein...
    Zen (zen.arado): what revisions we made
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): if I were to ask for your mini PaB memoir... beginning to now...
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): what would you say? :)
    Zen (zen.arado): I hope to do that for last assignment
    Zen (zen.arado): tutor recommended that as soon as I told her about SL
    Zen (zen.arado): but will do episodes
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): well we are okay with unpolished version :)
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): nice that she showed interest though
    Zen (zen.arado): it will be after May
    Zen (zen.arado): well it is something different
    Zen (zen.arado): plenty of scope
    Zen (zen.arado): pab history?
    Zen (zen.arado): mine I mean
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes :)
    Zen (zen.arado): Hi Sunji :)
    Zen (zen.arado): or VAI
    Zen (zen.arado): or art
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Aph's been asking for people's PaB arrival stories... and I'm interested in that, but also the kind of hm...
    Zen (zen.arado): or theatre experiences
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): measure when one reflects
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): lol :) yes... I get it
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): well for now, off the top of your head, just PaB
    Sunshine (szavanna): listening
    Zen (zen.arado): 'we were in the green room anxiously awaiting our cues.....'
    Sunshine (szavanna): and having a snack
    Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): heheh
    Zen (zen.arado): with better typing :)
    Zen (zen.arado): could plumb other's memories for that too
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me smiles at snacking Sunshine

    Crowns and art:

    Sunshine (szavanna): checks for crown
    Zen (zen.arado): crown in for maintenace?
    Sunshine (szavanna): hm?
    Zen (zen.arado): diamonds polishing?
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
    Sunshine (szavanna): I mean treasure hunt
    Zen (zen.arado): I know
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): whether you can see my crown is a test of your character :P
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): lollllol
    Zen (zen.arado): I'm no goos at treasure hunts
    Sunshine (szavanna): blabla you always say things like that ;p
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
    Sunshine (szavanna): there is something on your head
    Sunshine (szavanna): hmm
    Zen (zen.arado): because it's true
    Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): headdress
    Sunshine (szavanna): I love it
    Zen (zen.arado): did you see Xiri's latest exhibition?
    Sunshine (szavanna): yes I did
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): yes!
    Sunshine (szavanna): very serious
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): powerful
    Sunshine (szavanna): yes
    Sunshine (szavanna): no kidding around
    Zen (zen.arado): yes..different
    Sunshine (szavanna): to the point
    Sunshine (szavanna): yes very different
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): impressive - the way she used the SL space
    Zen (zen.arado): artists used to be social critics in days gone by
    Sunshine (szavanna): yes I loved that
    Zen (zen.arado): Hogarth
    Zen (zen.arado): really satirised his society
    Zen (zen.arado): and Victorian painters told moral tales
    Zen (zen.arado): I liked the religious one
    Sunshine (szavanna): you mean modern artists don't do that enough?
    Sunshine (szavanna): yes me too
    Zen (zen.arado): it's funny how church authorities wear those big hats and golden gowns and everyone accepts it
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I feel each should express what comes up for them and not feel pressure to be political - yet when such work comes up there is much to appreciate
    Zen (zen.arado): and they look so ridiculous really
    Sunshine (szavanna): yes true Zenji it feels a bit like a circus lol
    Zen (zen.arado): I had to ask Xiri what one of them meant
    Sunshine (szavanna): looking from a non religious background
    Sunshine (szavanna): in South Africa - we have "township artists"
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): to take part in a circus can be valuable, especially if willingly
    Zen (zen.arado): it three women in the foreground and men in big hats at the back
    Sunshine (szavanna): they often address social issues
    Zen (zen.arado): had
    Sunshine (szavanna): hehe yes Liz - if its your choice
    Sunshine (szavanna): but I don't really wanna be part of that specific one
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): "girl on wire"
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I want to be part of them all at once
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me laughs

    Gender assumptions:

    Zen (zen.arado): ashamed to say I didn't even notice the assumption that is is ok to have little women dressed in black run around and do all the menial tasks
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): this is one of the major things to be addressed in our time perhaps...
    Zen (zen.arado): yes
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): sometimes feels still very far away
    Zen (zen.arado): you know in the presbyterian church I attended for many years women were not allowed to be elders
    Zen (zen.arado): or teach
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): in the "What About Me" film there was so much value... then they got into gender/marriage/ownership... was a weird diversion
    Zen (zen.arado): and probably still the same
    Sunshine (szavanna): you liked?
    Sunshine (szavanna): I will watch after this
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I liked much of it, but not that part
    Zen (zen.arado): no I didn't like
    Zen (zen.arado): that situation I mean
    Zen (zen.arado): I never saw the film
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): when I was 19 I wanted to be a minister
    Sunshine (szavanna): wow
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): when I was very little I said to my mom that I would be a nun
    Sunshine (szavanna): really
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but I wasn't Catholic
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): lol
    Zen (zen.arado): you would have made a good one
    Sunshine (szavanna): I never wanted to ;o)
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I tried to get my friend Jeanette to make a plan with me... she could sing..
    Zen (zen.arado): just thinking you have all the right qualities
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): we would "practice" in the church.. I standing at podium and she singing, lol
    Sunshine (szavanna): me? or lIz?
    Sunshine (szavanna): ;D
    Zen (zen.arado): you could learn to preach
    Sunshine (szavanna): hehe
    Zen (zen.arado): Liz
    Sunshine (szavanna): lol
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :))
    Sunshine (szavanna): /me imagines
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): it is one of those prayers I'm happy wasn't answered
    Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): though for some reason I feel sad that it felt impossible
    Sunshine (szavanna): thank god hehe
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): hah
    Zen (zen.arado): the opportunity should be there
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): although... in some churches, like UU.... one could minister "all religions"
    Zen (zen.arado): yes
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but... they are very political
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): or the tendency is to be so
    Zen (zen.arado): a pastoral role is a caring role
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): so many traps
    Zen (zen.arado): first minister we had had a nervous breakdown
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): when I felt I couldn't be a minister, I then wanted to be a minister's wife.. ack really happy to have dodged that one
    Zen (zen.arado): they asked too much of him
    Sunshine (szavanna): lol
    Sunshine (szavanna): I wanted to be a bride
    Sunshine (szavanna): ;p
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me smiles
    Sunshine (szavanna): when I was small and they asked me
    Zen (zen.arado): I never knew waht I wanted
    Sunshine (szavanna): I always said ...when I grow up - I will be a bride
    Sunshine (szavanna): ;D
    Zen (zen.arado): just drifted through life
    Zen (zen.arado): and you got your wish Sunji
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
    Sunshine (szavanna): lol
    Sunshine (szavanna): sigh

    Sunji shows paintings:

    Sunshine (szavanna): look what I found
    Zen (zen.arado): both of you
    Sunshine (szavanna): township art
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I still romanticize nundom :)
    Zen (zen.arado): lively and colourful Sunji
    Sunshine (szavanna): nundom °͜°
    Sunshine (szavanna): yes very colorful
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but I know it is a fantasy now... and that no outer circumstance is the point
    Zen (zen.arado): one on the right reminds me of Lawry
    Zen (zen.arado): forget how to spell his name
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): oh!
    Sunshine (szavanna): Lawry?
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me pans out
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I didn't see you rezzed things :P
    Sunshine (szavanna): ;))
    Zen (zen.arado): an English painter who painted little figures set in Engish factory towns
    Sunshine (szavanna): yes you were all into nuns and hoods ;p
    Sunshine (szavanna): ah
    Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
    Sunshine (szavanna): there are many many pictures like this
    Sunshine (szavanna): I love them
    Sunshine (szavanna): see how bright
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): a lot of joy in them
    Sunshine (szavanna): and those are shanti towns
    Zen (zen.arado): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lo...ddersfield.jpg
    Zen (zen.arado): Lowry
    Sunshine (szavanna): ah ty :)
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): oh wow yes Zen
    Sunshine (szavanna): ah yes °͜°
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): on the left, more like the islands
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Caribean art
    Sunshine (szavanna): yes
    Zen (zen.arado): https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=in...w=1472&bih=704
    Sunshine (szavanna): that reminds me of
    Sunshine (szavanna): Rrrrrricoooo
    Sunshine (szavanna): ;D
    Zen (zen.arado): have you heard of him?
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :P
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): no
    Sunshine (szavanna): no I haven't
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): never
    Sunshine (szavanna): ah nice
    Zen (zen.arado): oh? very famous in UK
    Sunshine (szavanna): industrial landscape
    Zen (zen.arado): yes
    Sunshine (szavanna): yes but I am a zulu :)
    Sunshine (szavanna): you know when you go into the townships
    Sunshine (szavanna): often it is just very dusty
    Sunshine (szavanna): not like the pictures
    Sunshine (szavanna): yet it becomes all colorful
    Sunshine (szavanna): on the canvas
    Sunshine (szavanna): :)
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): well the paintings break through the dust
    Zen (zen.arado): artists cheat Sunji :)
    Sunshine (szavanna): they do?
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): depends on what the point is, whether they cheat?
    Sunshine (szavanna): naughty artists °͜°
    Zen (zen.arado): to me a photo is just a base
    Zen (zen.arado): I exaggerate colours
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): so does our mind.. to get a grip :)
    Zen (zen.arado): wonder how much I can exagerrate stories
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): to convey something sometimes you have to take it to extreme proportions
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): that's also why the circus-try :)
    Zen (zen.arado): I could have monsoon season arrive in Queensland when I was there
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): circus-ry*
    Zen (zen.arado): yes
    Zen (zen.arado): though it was dry
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): well not so sure even in memoir it is okay to do that :))
    Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): unless you experienced a monsoon in some way
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): whispers: that was figurative :)

    Climate tales:

    Zen (zen.arado): place I was ..a little town called Cloncurry has the record for the hottest temperature ever recorded in Australia
    Zen (zen.arado): 53 C I think it was
    Sunshine (szavanna): wow
    Sunshine (szavanna): super hot
    Zen (zen.arado): https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cl...w=1472&bih=704
    Zen (zen.arado): and so dry it sucked all the moisture out of you
    Zen (zen.arado): we drank bottles and bottles of lemonade and were still thirsty
    Zen (zen.arado): they have sloar power now
    Zen (zen.arado): solar
    Sunshine (szavanna): when I was in Tunis ... it also got very hot .... when I went outside ....things seemed to be like a mirage ...
    Sunshine (szavanna): forgot the word
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): that's it :)
    Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
    Zen (zen.arado): yes was always a mirage on horizon
    Zen (zen.arado): like a big ake
    Zen (zen.arado): lake
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Summer in Miami is like that... always seems the roads are wet but they are not
    Sunshine (szavanna): but what is the word for it?
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): mirage is good
    Sunshine (szavanna): "the view gets blurry"
    Zen (zen.arado): but Miami is humid
    Sunshine (szavanna): kk as long as you get it
    Zen (zen.arado): high humidity is worse I think
    Zen (zen.arado): harder to bear
    Sunshine (szavanna): its not easy yes
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): some days one doesn't want to walk to the mailbox
    Sunshine (szavanna): really
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but the quality of brightness is hard to compare
    Zen (zen.arado): did you see the photo I posted on FB of the snow?
    Sunshine (szavanna): here we don't have high humidity
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): and the billions of greens
    Sunshine (szavanna): only in Durban
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I didn't..hm
    Zen (zen.arado): https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater
    Sunshine (szavanna): I rarely go to fb
    Zen (zen.arado): this is about 2 miles from me
    Sunshine (szavanna): go lol I mean browse
    Zen (zen.arado): higher up
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Oh wow
    Zen (zen.arado): earlier this week
    Zen (zen.arado): yet no snow where I am
    Zen (zen.arado): amazing
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): "we live in a beautiful world... yes we do yes we do...."
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :)
    Sunshine (szavanna): wow!
    Sunshine (szavanna): is it real
    Sunshine (szavanna): where was it taken?
    Zen (zen.arado): just about two miles inland from where I live
    Zen (zen.arado): but going uphill
    Sunshine (szavanna): wow
    Sunshine (szavanna): never seen anything like that
    Zen (zen.arado): living beside the sea saves me
    Sunshine (szavanna): lol someone wrote "FCUK!!"
    Zen (zen.arado): still snow here
    Zen (zen.arado): was snowing earlier
    Sunshine (szavanna): wow but its almost april
    Zen (zen.arado): I know
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): is that the norm?
    Zen (zen.arado): a late cold spell
    Zen (zen.arado): no
    Sunshine (szavanna): brrr
    Sunshine (szavanna): actually finally its cold here
    Sunshine (szavanna): cool
    Zen (zen.arado): this time last year it was in 20's
    Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): nice
    Zen (zen.arado): everyone sitting sun
    Zen (zen.arado): in
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): here it is nothing short of gorgeous
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): warm but with a cool breeze
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): very bright
    Sunshine (szavanna): ah nice
    Zen (zen.arado): envious
    Sunshine (szavanna): ah Zenji

    DJ lists:

    Sunshine (szavanna): I am busy with the DJ list
    Zen (zen.arado): but summer heat in Florida would be difficult for me
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): but in just a few weeks it will be so hot that it is hard for me.... going from tree shade to tree shade... cave to cave
    Sunshine (szavanna): I wanted to ask you - what is PaB's fav songs
    Zen (zen.arado): I don't know
    Zen (zen.arado): I just play what I like :)
    Sunshine (szavanna): people seem to love Pink Floyd
    Sunshine (szavanna): and Beatles :)
    Zen (zen.arado): mostly oldies that are good to dance too
    Sunshine (szavanna): kk
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Ohhhh I was in the market the other day and something came on that made me happy....
    Zen (zen.arado): PF is a bit slow usually though and long
    Sunshine (szavanna): I have a nice collection already
    Sunshine (szavanna): what?
    Sunshine (szavanna): yes it is
    Sunshine (szavanna): PF lol
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MOH7vUKIjE
    Sunshine (szavanna): ty
    Zen (zen.arado): I don't mind doing requests but not too many
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): love the happy energy in this song
    Zen (zen.arado): sometimes people ash for songs that nobody else likes :)
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :) almost always Zen
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): that's when we have a chance to practice inclusive skills
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): :P
    Zen (zen.arado): real oldie that one
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): here's one I almost put on Sunji's list
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q27BfBkRHbs
    Sunshine (szavanna): checks
    Zen (zen.arado): I have lots of playists
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): was thinking maybe not everyone's cup of tea, hah
    Zen (zen.arado): but often I like to play by ear
    Zen (zen.arado): what feels right
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): this song has the same sort of "glad all over" vibe... but rough and modern
    Sunshine (szavanna): ;))
    Zen (zen.arado): I made a playlist for this but may not stick to it
    Sunshine (szavanna): cute video
    Sunshine (szavanna): ah you have?
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I'd better go.... so much to do and the song just energized me
    Sunshine (szavanna): lego video
    Zen (zen.arado): any time I hear something I like I add it to my lists
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): hehe
    Sunshine (szavanna): ;))
    Zen (zen.arado): on Facebook and other places
    Sunshine (szavanna): hugs Liz
    Sunshine (szavanna): ah yes true
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): Oh, you have a FB music list?
    Zen (zen.arado): kk ty for coming
    Zen (zen.arado): social worker hasn't showed
    Sunshine (szavanna): take care Zenji - enjoy the evening :)
    Zen (zen.arado): false alarm
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): hope they come
    Sunshine (szavanna): keep warm
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): not right to keep you waiting
    Zen (zen.arado): no I add to playlist on my DJ program
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): maybe you can talk with her in retreat mode
    Sunshine (szavanna): ah ok
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ala exploration today :)
    Sunshine (szavanna): ♥ ♥ ♥
    Sunshine (szavanna): ;)) ♥ ♥ ♥
    Zen (zen.arado): yes I will do that now
    Sunshine (szavanna): see u soon
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ♥ ♥ ♥
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): ♥ ♥ ♥
    Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
    Eliza (eliza.madrigal): /me waves
    Zen (zen.arado): ty for coming :)
    Zen (zen.arado): byee
    Sunshine (szavanna): u too °͜Â

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