2013.05.02 07:00 - The point where things stop moving

     

    The Guardian for this meeting was Storm Nordwind. The comments are by Storm Nordwind.


    A delightful vacation
     

    Agatha Macbeth: G'day Stormy :)
    Storm Nordwind: Hi Agatha!
    Agatha Macbeth: Lone vigil?
    Storm Nordwind: Pretty much. How are you keeping?
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm good, how's yerself?
    Storm Nordwind: Not so bad thank you :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    Storm Nordwind: Keeping out of mischief :)
    Agatha Macbeth: And Mrs Nordwind?
    Storm Nordwind: Mrs Nordwind and I have just had a delightful vacation. :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh wow
    Agatha Macbeth: brilliant
    Storm Nordwind: And now there's thick snow outside the window here - which must be good
    Agatha Macbeth: Did she have a good birthday?
    Storm Nordwind: Yes thank you
    Agatha Macbeth: Great
    Storm Nordwind: The birthday coincided with PaB celebrations, but that was fine. She enjoyed herself.
    Agatha Macbeth: That's the main thing!
    Storm Nordwind: We live a very simple life - at least by most people's modern standards - keeping ourselves to ourselves and just enjoying each other's company
    Agatha Macbeth: Sounds wonderful
    Storm Nordwind: We are very fortunate :)

    Dropping par excellence

    Agatha Macbeth: I live simply too - enjoying my own company :p
    Storm Nordwind smiles
    Agatha Macbeth: 'Keep It Simple Stupid'
    Storm Nordwind: It works
    Agatha Macbeth: Well it does for moi yes
    Storm Nordwind: Indeed. Some go spare when forced to eschew company or their phones.
    Agatha Macbeth: OMG true
    Agatha Macbeth: That is 'dropping ' par exellance IMHO
    Storm Nordwind: Haha - yes!
    Agatha Macbeth: I sometimes wonder if all this technology actually helps or hinders us sometimes
    Storm Nordwind: Both, I suspect. Well it can hide us from ourselves, and allow us not to face our own weaknesses. Or it can throw those weaknesses into sharp relief.
    Agatha Macbeth: Indeed

    Don't stick me in a stuffy book

    Agatha Macbeth: Wollie was telling me about how lost she was when her internet connection vanished last week
    Storm Nordwind: I can imagine. It would be a problem for me to some extent too. I spend a lot of time helping people online, so they'd have to muddle through in other ways! (Not that I'm a panacea for help...)
    Agatha Macbeth: Stormy the samaritan :)
    Storm Nordwind: I'm not sure about that. Please don't make a parable about me and stick it in a stuffy book! ;-)
    --BELL--
    Agatha Macbeth: Ok, promise
    Agatha Macbeth: Are there always this many here at this time? :p
    Storm Nordwind: It's sometimes hard to cope with the rush, true... :/
    Agatha Macbeth: Ha
    Storm Nordwind: I don't push an agenda here, so people are thrown onto their own devices. No spoon feeding so let's stay away, perhaps? Or am I being too cynical? ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: You cynical?
    Agatha Macbeth pokes you
    Storm Nordwind: Pretentious? Moi? ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: :D
    Agatha Macbeth: I thought Liz Bleu and Sun usually turned up at this time
    Storm Nordwind: It varies. But I'm fine either way. It's lovely to talk with these people. But I'm happy with just your excellent self :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww
    Agatha Macbeth: You smooth talker you

    Those mountains do their thing

    Agatha Macbeth: Hi San
    Santoshima Resident: 's current display-name is "San".
    Storm Nordwind: Hi San :)
    Santoshima Resident: hello :)
    Agatha Macbeth: How's Canada at this hour?
    Santoshima Resident: bright
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    Agatha Macbeth: here too
    Santoshima Resident: spring is happening
    Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
    Agatha Macbeth: Always great to see the back of winter
    Storm Nordwind: We have 7 inches of snow today. It'll be gone tomorrow
    Agatha Macbeth: Good grief
    Santoshima Resident: ! refreshing
    Agatha Macbeth: Presumably the altitude has something to do with it?
    Storm Nordwind: Those mountains do their thing
    Agatha Macbeth: Hm, right
    Storm Nordwind: We can get 50F/30C temperature swings in a single day
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow
    Santoshima Resident: wow
    Agatha Macbeth: And they say the Uk climate is changeable
    Storm Nordwind notices 50F isn't 30C but let's that pass
    Agatha Macbeth: So long since I used F I don't remember how to convert
    Santoshima Resident: just thought you meant "big swing"
    Storm Nordwind: yeah big swing is good
    Santoshima Resident: dress in layers kind of thing

    Perfect for human comfort

    Storm Nordwind: Fahrenheit is wonderful - best, even - but only for one thing - measuring human comfort, so weather temperatures, central heating and the like. Otherwise, Celsius is best.
    Storm Nordwind: personal opinion natch
    Agatha Macbeth: C is more logical I think
    Storm Nordwind: Nah
    Agatha Macbeth: Water based
    Agatha Macbeth: I mean freezing point at 32 what's that about?
    Storm Nordwind: Forget that!
    Storm Nordwind: You like 0-100 scales. Let me show you one
    Storm Nordwind: 0-100 is a perfect scale for human comfort
    Storm Nordwind: Below 0F it's too cold
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Storm Nordwind: Above 100F it's too hot
    Storm Nordwind: Between is OK and towards the middle is good. The -3db point, 70, is best. It's the perfect scale
    Agatha Macbeth: Hm

    The point where things stop moving

    Agatha Macbeth: Kelvin is the one that gets me - freezing at what is it 373 or something?
    Storm Nordwind: 273
    Storm Nordwind: ish
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah ty
    Agatha Macbeth: Knew it was something unreal
    Storm Nordwind: That's because you can't get colder than 0 degrees Kelvin
    Agatha Macbeth: Right
    --BELL--
    Storm Nordwind: So if you want to move away from F, K is more logical than C in many ways
    Agatha Macbeth: How do they work that out actually? The freezing point of some gas?
    Storm Nordwind: Basically, temperature is a measurement of movement, kinetic energy of matter itself, molecules vibrating if you like. They just find the point where things stop moving.
    Agatha Macbeth: Aha
    Agatha Macbeth: I did wonder
    Agatha Macbeth: Makes you wonder how they can get the temp down enough to test it
    Storm Nordwind: Just blow on it ;)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ha
    Agatha Macbeth: Not me - too much hot air :p
    Storm Nordwind: Dropping movement... ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Could be
    Agatha Macbeth: I see you typing San, but no words appear :(
    Santoshima Resident: true
    Santoshima Resident: i doubt my science knowledge ... typed then doubted
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh I'm not lagged then, good
    Santoshima Resident: i wrote:
    Santoshima Resident: or to the point where movement falls outside measurable range?
    Storm Nordwind: There are thoughts behind the words, and I find, in my case, my hands are often insufficiently agile to express them
    Agatha Macbeth: Hm, yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Hands don't move as quick as the mind
    Storm Nordwind: We used to do experiements at school to estimate Absolute Zero. There were physics experiments that produced linear results, and you could project them back to intersect at some estimate of zero kelvin. However, it was woolly, and it assumed linearity. Probably best that superconductors don't rely on my high school physics!

    Moving on. Moving back.

    Agatha Macbeth: I think perhaps things have moved on since then ;-)
    Storm Nordwind: Or back. If I look at educational standards around me here, for example. :-/
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww, different country Stormy
    Storm Nordwind: Yes.
    Storm Nordwind: The land where a bachelors degrees takes four years, not three.
    Agatha Macbeth smiles
    Storm Nordwind: And people accept it as the norm
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe Bush changed the length of the year?
    Storm Nordwind chuckles
    Storm Nordwind: Only the length of the daylight ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, yes
    Agatha Macbeth: That's bad enough
    Agatha Macbeth: You must have been at school when Lorenz first formulated chaos theory then ;-)
    Storm Nordwind: No
    Storm Nordwind: Before then.
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh
    Agatha Macbeth: 1962?
    Storm Nordwind: I thought Lorenz's paper was 1972
    Agatha Macbeth: Hmm
    --BELL--
    Agatha Macbeth: I always thought he made the initial...discovery, whatever in 62
    Storm Nordwind: True.
    Agatha Macbeth: Time can be such a pain
    Storm Nordwind: But things take a while to filter into the syllabus of a 500 year old school! ;)
    Agatha Macbeth: Right

    Glacier mints

    Santoshima Resident: bye for now ~ enjoy the day you both
    Storm Nordwind: Bye! :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Take care San
    Agatha Macbeth: Mind the polar bears
    Storm Nordwind: mmmmm... glacier mints...
    Agatha Macbeth: 'A bear, not a fox'
    Storm Nordwind: Yes i always wondered about choosing a bear as a logo for a company called fox
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe to do with the 'glacier' bit?
    Storm Nordwind: Here the word "fox" infers something rather less attractive altogether - to me at least.
    Agatha Macbeth: It does?
    Storm Nordwind: Right wing media channel
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh of course
    Agatha Macbeth: Rush limbaugh and all that
    Storm Nordwind shudders
    Agatha Macbeth: Don't tell me you watch it?
    Storm Nordwind: I won't. And I don't. :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Phew
    Agatha Macbeth: No news is good news
    Storm Nordwind: I miss Radio 4, but I've grown to live without it.
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow, I never listen to that now
    Agatha Macbeth: Mother used to have it on all the time
    Agatha Macbeth: Usually radio 3 me
    Storm Nordwind: I listened to nothing else in the UK
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
    Malinson Resident: 's current display-name is "Malinson Bloobury".
    Agatha Macbeth: I can imagine [smiles]
    Agatha Macbeth: Haven't heard Radio 1 for years
    Storm Nordwind: I didn't know it still existed.
    Agatha Macbeth: I believe so
    Agatha Macbeth: I hear reports to that effect
    Storm Nordwind: Rumors
    Agatha Macbeth: Think last time i heard it DLT was still on
    Storm Nordwind: I think they have antibiotics for that now :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Erk

    Whisky and chips

    Agatha Macbeth: And Johnny Walker
    Storm Nordwind: He who makes crisps
    Storm Nordwind: or whisky
    Agatha Macbeth: And whiskey
    Agatha Macbeth: Snap
    Storm Nordwind: Nono. You spelled in the Irish way. Me in the Scottish way.
    Agatha Macbeth: Bejasus
    Agatha Macbeth: Uisge is the vernac I think
    Agatha Macbeth: Meaning 'water'
    Storm Nordwind smiles and thinks of Lagavulin
    Agatha Macbeth: Some water eh
    Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like a lake in sweden
    Storm Nordwind: Only the best whisky in the world. I'm sure many Swedes wish they had better (cheaper) access to it ;)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Agatha Macbeth: To me it all tastes good :p
    Agatha Macbeth: Jack D is probably my fave tho
    Malinson Resident: :/
    Agatha Macbeth jumps
    Storm Nordwind: ick
    Agatha Macbeth and looks round
    Storm Nordwind: Sadly Lagavulin is $95 here
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww

    Something blue.

    Agatha Macbeth: Hm, is there a talking blue sphere or is it me?
    Storm Nordwind: There is.
    Malinson Resident: it's you.
    Storm Nordwind: It's not just you
    Storm Nordwind: Not this time anyway
    --BELL--
    Agatha Macbeth: I thought it might be a mesh glitsch or something
    Storm Nordwind: Too much JD perhaps
    Malinson Resident: Don't blame you...
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello talking blue sphere
    Malinson Resident: Hello talking human
    Agatha Macbeth: How's blue-ness?
    Malinson Resident: I never asked the sky that question.
    Storm Nordwind: One never knows with all the messing with Second Life viewers what is objective reality and what is just the blue sphericalness inside my head.
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, true
    Agatha Macbeth: Reality melts sometimes
    Storm Nordwind: Tuna melts at others
    Agatha Macbeth: Toto keeps telling me we're not in Kansas
    Storm Nordwind looks at reality... which looks back at him and taps its fingers and glances at the clock...
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww
    Storm Nordwind: I'm sorry, I think I have to go now.
    Malinson Resident: The ticking crock?
    Agatha Macbeth: I knew him well
    Storm Nordwind: May I wish you both a good day, and i hope to see you again soon. :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Take care Stormy
    Agatha Macbeth: Enjoy the snow
    Storm Nordwind: Namaste
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Mr/Ms Sphere...enjoy being round

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