2013.05.19 08:00 - Guardian Meeting

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    Present were Aggers, Aphrodite, Eos, Rosatta, Sun, Wol and Xirana
     
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hello Rosie
    Rosatta: Hi, Agatha : )
    Rosatta: That is a totally cute avatar : )
    Rosatta: Makes me want to pick you up and squeeze you
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Awww thank you :)
    Rosatta: Sorry, rl keeps demanding attention
    Rosatta: How are you today?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Yes, as does my kitchen :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Fine TY, you?
    Rosatta: Are you cooking?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Just making toast
    Rosatta: I'm doing good, ty
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Dinner comes later
    Rosatta: Ah, toast is one of nature's finest : )
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Mm, this is true
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Works for me
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth) wonders if anybody is coming
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Have you any particular worries or issues Rosie?
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Rosatta: Oh, dear . . . an encyclopedia's worth
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Uh oh
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Wollie ♥
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hi E
    Wol Euler: hello aggers, rosatta, eos
    Rosatta: Hi, Wol and Eos : )
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Looks like a skeleton crew today :p
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Roz,Wol, Ag
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): I only see Sun nearby
    Eos Amaterasu: There are marathons happening today in my RL locale
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Wow
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): You are not competing then?
    Wol Euler: germany is empty because of the 3-day weekend for pentecost
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Ah
    Eos Amaterasu: may the spirit be with them
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Religious holidays seem to be a rare thing these days
    Eos Amaterasu: we just had Easter
    Wol Euler: indeed, fifty days ago :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Yes, that and Xmas
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): And they are so commercialised
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): very sad
    Rosatta: I never heard of a national holiday for Pentecost
    Wol Euler: there are a dozen or so here
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hello Sun ♥
    Rosatta: That is cool : )
    Eos Amaterasu: /me feels sun vibes
    Sunshine (szavanna): ❤
    Sunshine (szavanna): hi pablings :)
    Rosatta: Hi, Sunshine : )
    Second Life: Xirana is online.
    Wol Euler: I wouldn't care to guess which percentage of thepopulation actually attends a religious service in connection, but it would be small
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Oh Sunny you are bald?
    Wol Euler: hello sun
    Sunshine (szavanna): aww look at that cute thing
    Sunshine (szavanna): °͜°
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth) looks at Wol
    Sunshine (szavanna): hi Woly °͜°
    Rosatta: I know! Isn't she just huggable? :-D
    Sunshine (szavanna): lol Agaji
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Indeed!
    Sunshine (szavanna): very :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hurgable Wollie
    Sunshine (szavanna): ;))
    Sunshine (szavanna): nice to see you Rosie & Eos
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Xira :)
    Sunshine (szavanna): XiriMiri :)
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Xira
    Wol Euler: hello xir
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hola guapina
    Sunshine (szavanna): hola :)
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hello everyone!! :-) and guapinas :))
    Sunshine (szavanna): brb lookin for my hair
    Sunshine (szavanna): ;P
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): I still don't see Sun's hair :(
    Second Life: Sunshine is offline.
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Aww
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): me either
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): What's that illness that makes your hair fall out?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): starts with A
    Eos Amaterasu: chemo
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hm
    Wol Euler: apathy?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Something like alopetia
    Eos Amaterasu: distress?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Duncan Goodhew had it
    Wol Euler: alopecia
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Yes
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): TY
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Woolie is so smart
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): and Wollie too
    Wol Euler: from the classical Greek "alopex" meaning "fox" apparently
    Wol Euler: greek foxes are bald.
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth) ponders the connection
    Second Life: Sunshine is online.
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Seem to be many fox synchronicities lately
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): WB Sun
    Eos Amaterasu: foxiness?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Yay Sunhair
    Eos Amaterasu: gone yesterday, hair today
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Indeed
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): welcome back Sun!:)
    Sunshine (szavanna): lol
    Sunshine (szavanna): Eosji ;p
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth) waits for Sunny to get settled
    Eos Amaterasu wonders why Greek foxes are bald
    Sunshine (szavanna): lol
    Eos Amaterasu: what about Hungarian foxen?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): What is fox in hungarian?
    Sunshine (szavanna): roka
    Sunshine (szavanna): ;D
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Ah TY
    Sunshine (szavanna): hehe
    Sunshine (szavanna): yw
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): /me makes a note
    Sunshine (szavanna): they have hair
    Sunshine (szavanna): hmm
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): So shall we begin?
    Eos Amaterasu: Oremus
    Sunshine (szavanna): yes ready :) with hair and all
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Bless you
    Sunshine (szavanna): :)
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): foxes losed hair because of 'mange' :) Any of several chronic skin diseases of mammals caused by parasitic mites and characterized by skin lesions, itching, and loss of hair. (The free Dictionary)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Aph babe :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: hi
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi APh
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): How are things?
    Aphrodite Macbain: things are fine. rubs sleep from her eyes
    Aphrodite Macbain: thanks
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Aww *hug*
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hello Aph! :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: nice coat aggers
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): So dears do we have any pressing business?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): TY
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Anything troubling us?
    Sunshine (szavanna): none that I remember
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): So PaB is doing jim dandy then? ;-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: a bit of a sore throat
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): That is good to hear
    Sunshine (szavanna): Aph ♥
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Aww *hugs again*
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Eos Amaterasu: (noticing a lot of empty session, tho, btw....)
    Sunshine (szavanna) checks Aph's temp
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Yes, I noticed too
    Rosatta: I am so sorry I missed mine this week
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): NP Rosie
    Sunshine (szavanna): empty sessions on the wiki?
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes
    Sunshine (szavanna): or people are not attending?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): There seems to be a lot of red print on the page yes
    Eos Amaterasu: maybe summertime in no hemisphere
    Sunshine (szavanna): ah ok
    Rosatta: I have decided to make every 1 pm session I can until I get neural connections that have something going on at that time, then I can narrow it down to Wednesdays
    Sunshine (szavanna): I did post mine hmm but didn't really do a good job hmm
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Probably the majority are empty
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Don't be silly Sun
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): You do well
    Sunshine (szavanna): why not
    Rosatta: I think I forgot to put the date on the last one I posted
    Sunshine (szavanna): ;o)
    Aphrodite Macbain ponders neural connections at 1pm
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Well no more than usual ♥
    Sunshine (szavanna): ah ok °͜°
    Eos Amaterasu: neural connections ponder
    Sunshine (szavanna): ponddd pondddd
    Eos Amaterasu: rub sleep from dendrites
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Is it still the 1AMs which are the main issue I wonder
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: what is the average attendance then?
    Sunshine (szavanna): 1ams are really quiet
    Wol Euler: it is a tricky time, middle of the night for the US and middle of the morning for Europe
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth) nods
    Sunshine (szavanna): yes
    Sunshine (szavanna): is it necessary to have those hmm
    Sunshine (szavanna): the other times are much better
    Sunshine (szavanna): brb
    Eos Amaterasu: Maybe just leave a steaming latté there
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Yes, always helps ;)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I have one at my right hand right now.
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's definitley helping
    Eos Amaterasu: sleep rubbing ingredients
    Sunshine (szavanna): back
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): i think the last time we suggested dropping the 1AMs nobody was really in favour
    Sunshine (szavanna): ah ok
    Eos Amaterasu: I think it's okay to have empty sessions
    Eos Amaterasu: with or without people :-)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): I would tend to agree E
    Sunshine (szavanna): but but if noone gives out cookies
    Sunshine (szavanna): :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes- they are there the rest of the time!
    Eos Amaterasu: noone will be hungry
    Aphrodite Macbain: leave a cookie jar
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hm, how many sessions have no regular GoC now?
    Sunshine (szavanna): :)
    Eos Amaterasu: but true, leave a cookie jar there as well
    Rosatta: Having the sessions every 6 hours makes it easy to remember when they are scheduled, but I am wondering if it might serve our European members better if the 1 am was shifted to a better time for that area?
    Sunshine (szavanna): yes cookie jar good idea
    Sunshine (szavanna): hehe
    Eos Amaterasu: PaB fortune cookies
    Eos Amaterasu: APAPB
    Aphrodite Macbain: or chocollate- that always works
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Think I need Pema here for APAB...#
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): I don't think anything much arose out the WG meeting?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): We still seem to be in post-party mode
    Aphrodite Macbain: who attends the 1AM?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Well Wol currently does 3 I think
    Wol Euler: I do on Friday to sunday
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): or continuous party mode:) with Sun and Zen's dancing sessions:)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): :)
    Wol Euler: hana is often there on the weekend, qt, aggers
    Aphrodite Macbain: who comes to these sessions Wol?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Yes, I was here this morning, and most sundays
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): I don't know about other days
    Wol Euler: I could find out, I have access to Storm's attendance logs
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Do all the 1AMs currently have GoCs I wonder
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): will check that
    Aphrodite Macbain: It might be interesting to ask those who attend and see if there is a better time
    Wol Euler: you do know that the signboard at the Playgoda shows all the gocs for al the sessions?
    Wol Euler: just above where it also shows the week's theme :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: Does it lie?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Yes, and the wiki too of course
    Wol Euler: perhaps
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): yes :-) Thanks Wol :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): But is it up to date?
    Wol Euler: I don't know how to answer that question
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Tick any box :p
    Wol Euler: I believe that it is up-to-date with what I believe to be the correct answer
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): I'll check both
    Wol Euler: but if somebody has stopped taking their session without bothering to tell anyone about it, well ...
    Aphrodite Macbain: It might be interesting to ask those who attend the 1AM and see if there is a better time
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Maybe
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): It's a round world problem
    Aphrodite Macbain: There has been some changing around. the 1pm sunday session is open again
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I see most sessions are hosted by Wol ... during the weekend
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): 1AMs yes
     
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): So, on to topics...
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Anyone have any suggestions?
    Silencio
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): One at a time please :p
    Eos Amaterasu: "freshness"
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Good one E
    Wol Euler nods.
    Aphrodite Macbain splashes water on her face
    Sunshine (szavanna): :)
    Second Life: Korel Laloix is online.
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): So freshness for next week then...
    Sunshine (szavanna): puts on a real wiggly african song
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): And the week after?
    Rosatta: Is Being animated or static?
    Sunshine (szavanna): nice
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): It's certainly not static when Sun and Zen are around :))
    Sunshine (szavanna): :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: synapses everywhere
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): /me checks her head
    Aphrodite Macbain: static, animated or wiggly
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Or all three?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): State of being perhaps
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes
    Eos Amaterasu: gas, liquid, or solid? triple point?
    Rosatta: Or plural - states of being?
    Wol Euler: sweet or salty?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Does the state of being have a constitution
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Rich man poor man
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): I know the US has a constitution, not sure about Being...
    Aphrodite Macbain: I have a healthy one
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Glad to hear it my dear
    Sunshine (szavanna): I read this on the Jeff Foster FB page :
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): :)
    Sunshine (szavanna): So, there is some misunderstanding over what 'the moment' is. 
     
     We have been taught to think of 'the moment' as a small slither of time, sandwiched between the twin vastnesses of past and future, but that is not quite right. Instead of calling it 'the moment' let's call it 'the movement', the real-time movement of life, the present movement of thought, sensation, feeling, sounds, smells, images, memory and dreams.
     
    Aphrodite Macbain: I love it Sunji
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hm, who is Jeff Foster?
    Sunshine (szavanna): Jeff Foster studied Astrophysics at Cambridge University. In his mid-twenties, after a long period of depression and illness, he became addicted to the idea of ‘spiritual enlightenment’ and embarked on an intensive spiritual quest for the ultimate truth of existence.
    Aphrodite Macbain: ponders slithery time
    Rosatta: That was a huge goal
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Ah, he does retreats at Glastonbury :)
    Rosatta: Thought I totally understand why he did that
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Sounds good
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): Thank you Sun! I like the quote at the beginning... about not needing to have all the answers :)
    Rosatta: Does that
    Aphrodite Macbain: sort of what we are doing perhaps
    Sunshine (szavanna): :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Sun
    Sunshine (szavanna): yes its tiring to keep have to answer things °͜°
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Sunny Sun Sun
    Rosatta: Something I became aware of years ago is that it is not possible to really know reality because we are 3D beings living/existing in a multiple dimensional 'place'
    Sunshine (szavanna): ;o)
    Aphrodite Macbain: nods at Rosatta
    Rosatta: Outside of 3D all our references such as up, down, etc. lose all relevance
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): As in space
    Rosatta: A lot of old science fiction tried to visualize what a 4th dimension would be and just made unusual versions of a 3D world
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Isn't time supposed to be the 4th dimension?
    Rosatta: Other than an emotional awareness of something outside 3D, I don't think humans are able to go beyond it
    Rosatta: just my opinion, of course
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes time can be the 4th dimension
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): This is where I miss Gilles <grins>
    Aphrodite Macbain: or, some call it space/time
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Dot line square cube
    Rosatta: Well, someone said that gravity may be the 4th dimension - which scrambles my brains
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Erk
    Aphrodite Macbain: that is a force
    Aphrodite Macbain: not a dimension
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): May the force be with you
    Sunshine (szavanna): "the protagonist visits a one-dimensional universe called Lineland, where women are dots and men are lines."
    Aphrodite Macbain: My coffee is my force!
    Sunshine (szavanna): :)
    Rosatta: that was the one I was looking for
    Rosatta: Flatland: A romance in many dimensions
    Rosatta: It is very thought provoking
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): So the topics for next two weeks are:
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): 1) Freshness
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): 2) Is PaB static or fluid?
    Rosatta: It explores the idea of how a being in a lower/smaller dimension cannot comprehend the reality of a being in a higher/larger dimension
    Aphrodite Macbain: freshness as it applies to reality?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Yes Rosie, interesting question
    Eos Amaterasu: no holds barred
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Sunshine (szavanna): very interesting Rosatta :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: so much to read, so little space/time
    Rosatta: Cool link, Eos - thanks : )
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): This is true
    Aphrodite Macbain: M theory?
    Rosatta: Did we want the question to be PAB or Being static or fluid?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Being
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Just don't mention string theory :p
    Aphrodite Macbain: ok
    Eos Amaterasu: back to yr knitting :-)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Yah
    Rosatta: I am thinking PaB refers to what is being done here, while Being refers to , well, Being
    Sunshine (szavanna): hehe
    Aphrodite Macbain: both are very active
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): The play is the difference
    Aphrodite Macbain: the play's the thing
    Wol Euler respectfully points out that our purpose here is to choose a topic, not to debate and decide the answer to that topic.
    Rosatta: Maybe Is play static or fluid?
    Aphrodite Macbain: respectfully agrees
    Eos Amaterasu: How about just, "static or fluid"?
    Eos Amaterasu: (as the question)
    Wol Euler: sounds good
    Aphrodite Macbain: but what are we describing?
    Rosatta: I like that, Eos
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I find interesting to explore more about what 'play' means
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes, or being
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): So the second topic is what?
    Rosatta: I just don't want the topic to trigger all kinds of changes at PaB lol
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hehe:))
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): I doubt anything could do that
    Aphrodite Macbain: oh no! not changes!
    Aphrodite Macbain: being: static or fluid?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Ch-ch-ch-changes
    Rosatta: I like that, too
    Aphrodite Macbain: being: static or fluid?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): So we'll settle on that then
    Aphrodite Macbain: I could play with that
    Eos Amaterasu: Parmenides vs Heraclitus
    Rosatta: Well, the basic format of PaB is excellent, and those of you who have been here for awhile have added some delightful options
    Aphrodite Macbain: looks at Eos and wonders
    Rosatta: I like that way that is being done - the foundation the Pavilion sessions with all the other options
    Rosatta: There's a one minute video on YouTube for Parmenides vs Heraclitus - sounds like something I can handel :-D
    Aphrodite Macbain: we are never without a topic of conversation
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Sounds like a football match
    Rosatta: *handle
    Aphrodite Macbain: sounds like a drug war
    Aphrodite Macbain: Metaphysics, determinism, fatalism, and the unreality of free will.
    Sunshine (szavanna): ah fun site Eos
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Eos
    Eos Amaterasu: especially, "how do you recognize a penguin in a crowd?"
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Shout his name?
    Aphrodite Macbain: by its call
    Aphrodite Macbain: but only mothers can do that
    Wol Euler: depends what the crowd is composed of, a penguin in a crowd of crows is relatively easy to spot
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Needs camoflage maybe
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth) ponders an undercover penguin
    Aphrodite Macbain: the penguin is probably puzzled to find itself among a bunch of crows
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): And wondering where all the fish are
    Sunshine (szavanna): anyone wants a baby tux
    Sunshine (szavanna): :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I always leave these meetings with a library of links
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Linus?
    Sunshine (szavanna): yes hehe just FB-d some of the links
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I think I have it Sunji! Thanks:)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Charlie Brown?
    Sunshine (szavanna): yes Linus' penguin
    Aphrodite Macbain: oh right
    Sunshine (szavanna): yes Xiri I think you do ;o)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): You should come as Snoopy again Aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-) I think I lost his outfit
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Awww no
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-(
    Sunshine (szavanna): aww
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Bummer
    Aphrodite Macbain: The size of my inventory is a handicap
    Sunshine (szavanna): must go all - have a wonderful week :)
    Rosatta: Inventories get out fo control so easely
    Aphrodite Macbain: Byee sunji
    Eos Amaterasu: ciao all, thanks.
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Bye Sunny, dance well
    Sunshine (szavanna): may it be fresh and happy :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Bye E
    Sunshine (szavanna): hehe who me?
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Wol Euler: bye eos, run well :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: sorry I can never come to your Friday events
    Sunshine (szavanna): ❤
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I also go...have a nice Sunday all...see you soon! :-)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Meeting over then
    Sunshine (szavanna): we will arrange other times
    Wol Euler: bye sun, bye rosatta, bye xir
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth) waves
    Sunshine (szavanna): when is a good time Aph
    Rosatta: Bye, dear one
    Wol Euler: bye aggers, bye aph, bye me!
    Aphrodite Macbain: thanks!
    Wol Euler: enjoy the day
     
    OK, so topics for the next two weeks are:
     
    1) Freshness
    2) Being: fluid or static?
     
    PS A quick check revealed that there is currently no GoC at 1AM on Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday.
     
     
     
     
     
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