2013.05.23 19:00 – Dreaming in "Fresh" Technicolour

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Paradise Tennant. Participants included Geo, Korel, Bleu, Lucinda, GreatHeart, Catrinamonblue, SweetMujer and Aphrodite

    Geo Netizen bows to Paradise
    Korel Laloix: Bozho
    Geo Netizen bows to Korel
    Korel Laloix smiles
    Korel Laloix: What is the polite response to a bow?
    Korel Laloix: A curtsy?
    Geo Netizen: A wave would be appropriate
    Geo Netizen smiles
    Korel Laloix: Oh Ok.. smiles
    Korel Laloix waves
    Korel Laloix: Not a gesture I am really familiar with.
    Paradise Tennant: oh hiya korel
    Paradise Tennant: sorry was posting last night's log
    Paradise Tennant: hiya bleu
    Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
    Paradise Tennant: hiya geo :))
    Korel Laloix: Bozho
    Bleu Oleander: hi all :)
    Geo Netizen: Hiya Paradise
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Paradise Tennant: this week's theme is freshness :)
    Korel Laloix: Maybe I missed this.. but what is the definition?
    Paradise Tennant: finding new maybe even in the old
    Korel Laloix: Oh OK.
    Bleu Oleander: nice for spring :)
    Bleu Oleander: seeing with fresh eyes perhaps?
    Korel Laloix: I am sorry, but this topic reminds me of some bad commercials we were shown in my one marketing class.
    Geo Netizen: New moon slim and bright, Her arms around the old moon; The two are but one.
    Paradise Tennant: smiles that is lovely geo thank you .. really embodies it doesn't it
    Korel Laloix: If I have to look at the subject though in terms of my Faith.
    Korel Laloix: I guess freshness is really a central idea.
    Paradise Tennant: at the ancient pond a frog plunges into the sound of water (Bash ō 1644 - 1694)
    Korel Laloix: Creating new in us a new spirit, a new look at things and a freedom from things that bind us.
    Bleu Oleander: nice perspective :)
    Paradise Tennant: here is another one that sort gets to jumping into I guess you could call the "More" of life or even the amore of life :)
    --BELL--
    Geo Netizen: Ah ... Basho ... excellent
    Korel Laloix: I can say the when I became a Christian, it was a new beginning for me.
    Korel Laloix: A very fresh take on life and all sorts of things.
    Geo Netizen: Freshness can also mean inexperience.
    Paradise Tennant: what did that make new for you korel :)
    Korel Laloix: 2 Corinthians 5:17 - Therefore if any man [be] in Christ, [he is] a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
    Korel Laloix: Well.. there were things that were instantly broken for me... new beginnings.
    Korel Laloix: A very new perspective came to me that really allowed me to see things differently.
    Korel Laloix: I was raised in a militant atheist house, so the perspective was and is very different.
    Paradise Tennant: do you find it makes your days easier ?
    Korel Laloix: In some ways yes.
    Geo Netizen: We are at liberty to create freshness that leads either towards our progress or downfall.
    Korel Laloix: In some ways no.
    Korel Laloix: But He did give me a second chance on life that I thought was impossible.
    Catrinamonblue Resident: 's current display-name is "Catrinamonblue".
    Bleu Oleander: hi Cat :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: hi
    Korel Laloix: And it let me see ways out from order things that I was letting control me.
    Korel Laloix: Heya
    Paradise Tennant: hiya cat good to see you :)
    Geo Netizen: Hi Cat
    Catrinamonblue Resident: hi all :) nice to be back
    Korel Laloix: Good to see you again Cat.
    Paradise Tennant: we are talking of freshness of feeling faith with experience and poetry :)
    Paradise Tennant: a world of dew, and within every dewdrop a world of struggle (Issa 1762 - 1826)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: listens :)
    Korel Laloix: Maybe the word renewal is a good work for this as well.
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Korel Laloix: I was definitely on a path to self destruction.
    Geo Netizen: renewal - possibilities
    Geo Netizen: The new calendar, Pages of days yet unlived - Buds of joy and pain.
    Paradise Tennant: a very good word that is why faith any kind of faith works so well .. it lets you forgive yourself others the world at large
    Korel Laloix: So he gave me a new heart, a new mind, a new spirit.
    Korel Laloix: The difference in my life from before and after is amazing looking back.
    Korel Laloix: I am not sure who that was.
    Paradise Tennant: then I am very happy --- peace so often there for the having :)) but we don't sometimes manage to be in the right space for it
    Korel Laloix: But it is a renewal that I have to renew as well.. if that makes sense.
    Paradise Tennant: it is tricky
    Korel Laloix: I get so wrapped up in school that I end up neglecting my readings and the like.
    Korel Laloix: This last week was great for getting back in touch and feeling renewed again.
    Korel Laloix: I guess feeling like a fresh human again.
    Paradise Tennant: why the 9 sec is such a good idea .. we need to stop .. frankly just stop everything repeatedly :) just not be busy :)
    Paradise Tennant: to get back to fresh
    Korel Laloix: And another thing was....
    Korel Laloix: That my renewal was as much spiritual as physical.
    Korel Laloix: My whole being felt different and reanimated.
    --BELL--
    Geo Netizen: We can -and must- begin again each day.
    Paradise Tennant: smiles yes !
    Paradise Tennant: start over fresh :)
    Geo Netizen nods
    Korel Laloix: Easy words to say though.
    Korel Laloix: Living in this world can drag you down.
    Korel Laloix: And my Faith is my source of renewal most of the time.
    Geo Netizen: But that is one important aspect of the virtue of forgiveness
    Geo Netizen: by allowing the other to begin again fresh
    Geo Netizen: we are able to begin again fresh
    Catrinamonblue Resident: it can be hard sometimes to remember that each day we can choose how we are how we act and that we can choose to be happy
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Korel Laloix: I have been very much reminded of that recently.
    Korel Laloix: Easy to get angry at things.
    Geo Netizen: Disordered anger is a poison I drink to punish the other but … I am the one poisoned.
    Korel Laloix: Another thing I find interesting is what changes actually happen with renewal... or what we see with new eyes, is not what we expected.
    Korel Laloix: often
    Paradise Tennant: smiles and listens :)
    Korel Laloix: On occasion more often than I want to admit, I get angry at someone or something... so I go to Him for some renewal, and when I look at the thing again, I realize that I was the problem, not them.
    Geo Netizen: Mercy has given us new birth.
    Bleu Oleander: please excuse me ... dinner :)
    Bleu Oleander: take care all
    Korel Laloix: I don't think we get to chose how we will look on the other side of renewal.
    Bleu Oleander: nice to see you Cat :)
    Korel Laloix: Ciao bella
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Bye Bleu
    Bleu Oleander: night all
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite bleu
    Geo Netizen: Bye Blue
    Korel Laloix: And not sure the words to use here.... but
    Korel Laloix: Sometimes you have a new or different perspective.
    Korel Laloix: But you don't have the vocabulary or the understanding of that perspective to really take in the new look.
    Korel Laloix: Does that make sense?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: yes it does :)
    Korel Laloix: That was very true for me... having been brought up very segregated from anything religious and taught that religious people were stupid and evil.
    Paradise Tennant: yes .. very hard to put into abstract forms or words come experiences
    Paradise Tennant: *some
    Korel Laloix: So I did not understand the perspective at first.
    Korel Laloix: Was such a huge change for me.
    Geo Netizen listens closely
    --BELL--
    Korel Laloix: it was just funny looking back.... how I acted.. and what vicar there put up with coaching me the first few months.... lol.. a lot of cringe moments.
    Geo Netizen waves to GreatHeart
    Korel Laloix: Bozho
    GreatHeart Resident: 's current display-name is "GreatHeart".
    Catrinamonblue Resident: hello GreatHeart :)
    Paradise Tennant: hiya great heart :)
    Paradise Tennant: have you been to pab before ?
    GreatHeart Resident: hi no this is first
    GreatHeart Resident: just received a nc about it:)
    GreatHeart Resident: Ho Catrina and everybody
    Geo Netizen: Welcome GreatHeart
    Korel Laloix: Bozho
    Korel Laloix: Thank you all for a thoughtful chat.
    Paradise Tennant: we record the sessions and post them on our wiki site - are you ok with your comments being included ?
    GreatHeart Resident: Hello, a unique idea, which always interests me
    Korel Laloix: Going to go for a walk and think about this a bit.
    Paradise Tennant: smiles ok korel night night :)
    GreatHeart Resident: yes you may include me
    Korel Laloix: Take care all
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Bye Korel
    Geo Netizen smiles at Korel
    Geo Netizen: Hi Aphrodite
    Paradise Tennant: we were talking of freshness tonight experienced through faith , feeling .. articulated in experience and poetry :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Aph :)
    Paradise Tennant: hiya aph :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello!
    Geo Netizen: An interior experience may be so deep that it is not possible to express in word; our actions may be the only way to express them.
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: or through music and dance
    Geo Netizen: or poetry too :)
    Paradise Tennant: yes !
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes!
    Aphrodite Macbain: snap
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello Geo.
    Paradise Tennant: so very still, even cherry blossoms are not stirred by the temple bell (Fuhaku 1714-1807)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Have we met before?
    Aphrodite Macbain: nice
    Paradise Tennant: we have been doing haiku tonight -:)
    Aphrodite Macbain: oh - sorry I've missed it
    GreatHeart Resident: nice to say...expressing inspiration, which can be difficult to express in our conflicted society lol
    Aphrodite Macbain: coming down to essentials
    Geo Netizen: Can I love dearly, And not lose myself in love - Love is path to self.
    Paradise Tennant: smiles lovely and true
    Aphrodite Macbain: wish I could say the same thing. :-)
    Geo Netizen: Ahh ... it is a special kind of love
    GreatHeart Resident: I love the word love - it intrigues me as many say they cannot define it - I believe we can, even if only for ourselves:)
    Geo Netizen waves to SweetMujer and Lucinda
    GreatHeart Resident: Everyone this is my dear friend SweetMujer I invited her;)
    Paradise Tennant: welcome SweetMujer :) have you been to pab before ?
    SweetMujer Sak: hello everyone
    Geo Netizen: Welcome!
    SweetMujer Sak: thank you GH good to see you:)
    Paradise Tennant: hiya luci !
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Hello Sweet, Hi Luci :)
    GreatHeart Resident: Sweet I just arrived, deep conversation, here is a nc to explain
    Lucinda Lavender: Hello Friends:0
    Lucinda Lavender: )
    Aphrodite Macbain: waves and grins at Luci
    Paradise Tennant: sweet we record our sessions and post them on our wiki site are you ok if we include your comments ?
    SweetMujer Sak: sure
    Paradise Tennant: we were talking of the path of love and of freshness :))
    Lucinda Lavender: SORRY TO ARRIVE SO LATE...
    Lucinda Lavender: oops
    Paradise Tennant: no worries just nice to see you :)
    Lucinda Lavender: yes!!
    Lucinda Lavender: new folk too!
    GreatHeart Resident: so may I ask if anyone has a definition or way to describe what love is?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: love is acceptance of what is :)
    Geo Netizen: Love is ...
    Geo Netizen: Doubt is a winter, Possibilities in snow - She is warmth of sun.
    --BELL--
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm afraid I must poof. It was nice to meet all of you, new and old friends
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Night Apt :) have fun
    GreatHeart Resident: aw nice...k bye Aphrodite
    Geo Netizen: Bye Aph
    Lucinda Lavender: nice to see you aph...
    GreatHeart Resident: I have found my understanding of love is to seek to become one with that which we love
    Paradise Tennant: nite aph
    GreatHeart Resident: the desire, seeking, and ultimately finding of our unitive nature ... to me, is love
    Paradise Tennant: so recognizing our oneness ?
    Geo Netizen: Ahh but ...
    Geo Netizen: Eros seeks to gain - And in the very instance, He is converted
    Lucinda Lavender: feeling that oneness....sometimes it is laughing together...or crying together...or meditating together... noticing together
    GreatHeart Resident: yes our oneness with each other
    Lucinda Lavender: nods
    Catrinamonblue Resident: smiles
    GreatHeart Resident: hm like eros - that ecstatic merging into oneness we have all had (I hope hehe) is it possible to somehow find that all the time?
    Geo Netizen: That is back to freshness ... we try again today
    Lucinda Lavender: nodding
    Paradise Tennant: yes I think so and it makes life so much easier you can love those who "try " you - not just a sweet heart :)
    Lucinda Lavender: freshness helping to create the new ground to plant in...
    Paradise Tennant: hands luci a daisy :)
    Geo Netizen nods and smiles
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    GreatHeart Resident: there’s a "sociobiologist" I heard on the public radio who is teaching people to be mirrors to those who "try them" - easier said than done but he is having success -
    Lucinda Lavender: would like to know the name:)
    GreatHeart Resident: and when you can be a mirror you have positive hormonal responses and less stress
    Lucinda Lavender: sounds like someone I can learn from
    GreatHeart Resident: (I miss those things driving, when I can’t write them down:(
    Geo Netizen: In the mirror sharp, I see God – on turning round, There stands beloved.
    GreatHeart Resident: it was part of a 6 CD set by KPFA in Berkeley California - probably on their website
    Lucinda Lavender: I think in terms of hormones so much more with the trends of what we can learn...
    Lucinda Lavender: thank you for the station address
    Catrinamonblue Resident: slips quietly away, night everyone :)
    Lucinda Lavender: all tuning in to freshness
    --BELL--
    Geo Netizen: Bye Cat
    Lucinda Lavender: bye catrina
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite cat
    SweetMujer Sak: this is interesting
    Geo Netizen: PaB always seems to be interesting ... has been for many years :)
    Geo Netizen: I hope you will return often
    GreatHeart Resident: it does seem fresh here, original and even a stranger (me) can drop in and connect -
    Paradise Tennant: smiles yes we meet 4 times a day -with the sessions being hosted and recorded
    Geo Netizen Likes how GreatHeart slipped in the word fresh.
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    SweetMujer Sak: I have to go also. Good meeting all of you
    SweetMujer Sak: good night
    Lucinda Lavender: good meeting you too:)
    Geo Netizen: Bye SweetMujer
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite sweet and great :)) hope to see you both again soon :)
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    GreatHeart Resident: I must go, I dropped in the middle of other things because the nc seemed intriguing and I’m glad I found it
    GreatHeart Resident: will be here again!
    Geo Netizen: Bye GreatHeart
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks GreatHeart
    GreatHeart Resident: thx:) and for this nice service
    Geo Netizen: I too should retire … thanks for hosting the session Lucinda … great job.
    Geo Netizen bows deeply
    Lucinda Lavender: It was Paradise ...and Namaste to you
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite geo sweet dreams thank you so much for the poetry
    Lucinda Lavender: yes!
    Geo Netizen: Ahh ... thank you Paradise
    Paradise Tennant: lol wrong gesture that was meant to be a wave :)
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    Lucinda Lavender: ah well
    Lucinda Lavender: well
    Paradise Tennant: how are you luci have chatted in a while :)
    Lucinda Lavender: ok...pretty busy...but summer coming soon
    Lucinda Lavender: hi Korel!
    Korel Laloix: Heya
    Lucinda Lavender: and you Paradise?
    Paradise Tennant: hiya korel wb :)
    Korel Laloix: Had a short walk...
    Lucinda Lavender: paradise..
    Paradise Tennant: ooo been a busy month have a whole crew of company coming to stay next weekend but thought it was this weekend so booked tomorrow off to get organized :)
    Lucinda Lavender: I am afraid I have forgotten how to send out notifications for a dream circle...sorry for that
    Korel Laloix: No worries.
    Paradise Tennant: no worries the last one I had a conflict ..dinner with my niece
    Korel Laloix: I think people know when to look though.
    Lucinda Lavender: soon there will be a new art of Being project about dreams
    Paradise Tennant: oooo
    Paradise Tennant: say more
    Lucinda Lavender: well Bleu is getting the ideas together but I am helping too
    Lucinda Lavender: the dream circle will happen here with more open format
    Lucinda Lavender: I will make a special screen to surround this area
    Lucinda Lavender: using the hubble sky picture
    Paradise Tennant: sounds lovely very dreamy
    Lucinda Lavender: and maybe there will be an evening dream circle on the 3rd Friday of June
    Lucinda Lavender: hopefully there might be a morning one if we find an open spot
    Paradise Tennant: that would be a good night :)) Fridays are always more relaxed
    Lucinda Lavender: collect you recurring images, vivid ones as well
    Korel Laloix: yes, but some of us are usually not on then... smiles
    --BELL--
    Lucinda Lavender: maybe art will be made to display that reflects themes that surface for people
    Lucinda Lavender: we'll see....it is early in the planning
    Paradise Tennant: will be a very open topic like it !
    Lucinda Lavender: hope it can work for people
    Lucinda Lavender: I personally will be making a timeline of dreaming for myself
    Lucinda Lavender: to observe the trends
    Paradise Tennant: listens
    Lucinda Lavender: and the layers
    Paradise Tennant: how your dreams are changing
    Korel Laloix: Or not.
    Lucinda Lavender: Well after my conductor died I dreamt of him only once...then stopped
    Lucinda Lavender: after children moved away there was a change as well
    Paradise Tennant: more dreams of them ?
    Lucinda Lavender: there are trends I think
    Korel Laloix: Dreaming is a tricky subject for me.. but I am very fascinated by it.
    Lucinda Lavender: anything new Korel?
    Korel Laloix: Not really.
    Lucinda Lavender: dream wise?
    Korel Laloix: I only remember nightmares.
    Paradise Tennant: I dreamt of turquoise the stone :) the other night I had a pile of turquoise and I was looking at various stones and pieces of jewellery
    Korel Laloix: And maybe five in my life, all the same dreams.
    Paradise Tennant: five nightmares korel ?
    Korel Laloix: Those are all the dreams I have ever remembered.
    Korel Laloix: But I have issues... lol
    Lucinda Lavender: well I know you are strong Korel...it feels that way to me.
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Lucinda Lavender: the turquoise is interesting Para
    Lucinda Lavender: in the color work I have done it mean healed thought
    Paradise Tennant: a snippet of a dream .. but the stones were lovely .. and the Navajo jewellery also lovely
    Lucinda Lavender: and when you dream of turquoise....I will go look it up
    Korel Laloix: Interesting to bring up color.. I was talking about this with my shrink a while back.. I only dream in grey.
    Lucinda Lavender: just feel like healing is going on
    Paradise Tennant: hands Korel some turquoise
    Korel Laloix: I do have a bit of turquoise jewelry that I picked up on our trip out west a couple of summers ago.
    Paradise Tennant: suppose to be a healing stone :)
    Lucinda Lavender: with gray...I think of the ecstasy of birth (white)and resistance of black( energy transformed)
    Lucinda Lavender: Luci will be right back
    Korel Laloix: ok
    Lucinda Lavender: looking in my dreamers wheel
    Lucinda Lavender: examine fears...and vocabulary
    Lucinda Lavender: look at fears and fundamentalism to be rephrased
    Korel Laloix: For me, the gray seems to be part of what keeps me from being able to do anything to help.
    Lucinda Lavender: developing powers of logos
    Lucinda Lavender: to Korel...gray like as in fog?
    Korel Laloix: Yes, but more than that.
    Korel Laloix: Like everything is on a black and white TV behind a fog... if that makes sense.
    Lucinda Lavender: your clear-headedness perhaps
    Korel Laloix: Or lack.
    Lucinda Lavender: though trusting that may not be easy
    Lucinda Lavender: just a fresh way of looking at it
    Lucinda Lavender: outside of emotion
    Korel Laloix: Not sure.. but I am afraid of not knowing things... so it ads to the fear for me.
    Lucinda Lavender: ah...
    Korel Laloix: I find my dream, I saw grandma die, that would be closure.
    Lucinda Lavender: fin?
    Korel Laloix: But when I just see the tornadoes destroy the neighborhood, that is something else.
    Lucinda Lavender: yes! so real
    Korel Laloix: If in my dream,
    --BELL--
    Paradise Tennant: you dream of tornadoes Korel?
    Lucinda Lavender: she did right before the storm I think?
    Korel Laloix: The last one I had has of me stuck under a bridge and a wall of tornadoes crawling toward her house.
    Korel Laloix: No, this was a couple of years ago, this dream. But the last one I remember.
    Paradise Tennant: crawling towards your nana's house
    Lucinda Lavender: you may be feeling kind of like I did after my 9/11 dream on that morning....what do I do with this? sort of feeling...
    Lucinda Lavender: perhaps a getting ready for it dream...
    Lucinda Lavender: awareness
    Korel Laloix: No idea.
    Korel Laloix: The part that I find particularly odd is that in looking at this dream, it does not really disturb me that much. I think it should more. But I really don't have a relationship with my sleep dreams.
    Paradise Tennant: mentally focuses on making sure Corel’s nana is safe and sound with her under the bridge in dream land :)
    Lucinda Lavender: I just think now...it is because we love that the dream brings the awareness
    Lucinda Lavender: I do not have much feeling in my dreams either
    Korel Laloix: Not sure.. but most people I know they remember their dreams a lot are attached to them and pull meaning.
    Lucinda Lavender: it becomes like a movie sort of
    Korel Laloix: Oh OK.
    Korel Laloix: Maybe I misunderstand.
    Lucinda Lavender: with some sort of subtitle in my understanding
    Lucinda Lavender: words come like a subtitle as I watch
    Lucinda Lavender: not much feeling
    Korel Laloix: Another thing I have found odd along those lines.
    Lucinda Lavender: mainly observing and noticing
    Lucinda Lavender: listens
    Korel Laloix: Is that I have a limited ability in five languages...
    Korel Laloix: But in my dreams, there is language I can't understand.
    Lucinda Lavender: wow! powerful idea
    Korel Laloix: But thinking, that talking is never part of the plot.. it is background noise.
    Korel Laloix: And another question I have.. is how do I know I am remembering exactly what I dreamt.?.. Maybe my memory is shifting.
    Korel Laloix: I guess maybe I need to write the things down.
    Lucinda Lavender: I wonder if it is the language of another tribe...or something
    Lucinda Lavender: write them down...
    Lucinda Lavender: and keep them in a journal so you can look back
    Lucinda Lavender: I am going to attempt a time line of sorts myself
    Korel Laloix: I wonder if it is language in an auditory fog similar to the visual fog we talked about earlier.
    Paradise Tennant: smiles almost the witching hour here starting to fall asleep in my cocoa - going to have to say thank you and good night :) I cannot keep my eyes open and they will be wide open in about 6 hours :)
    Korel Laloix: Just part of my fear of not knowing... language that could help me understand, but it partially masked.
    Lucinda Lavender: dear dear Paradise...good dreams to you
    Paradise Tennant: Namaste my friends may all your dreams be in Technicolor :)
    Korel Laloix: Take care.. thanks for the chat.
    Lucinda Lavender: you too!
    Korel Laloix: ciao
    Lucinda Lavender: one piece of advice I was given was...everything you do in the dream is all that needs doing
    Korel Laloix: What does that mean?
    Lucinda Lavender: well in waking the ego might take charge
    Lucinda Lavender: and one might push from a personal place toward a certain end
    Lucinda Lavender: but I have also heard...some dream teachers say...to make a bumpersticker from the dream
    Lucinda Lavender: a short statement that capsulate it
    Korel Laloix: Well, if I did that for my dream.
    Korel Laloix: It would be something like....
    Korel Laloix: You are incapable of helping the people you care about when they are in dire need.
    Korel Laloix: Not a good sticker.
    Korel Laloix: Or more shortly.
    Korel Laloix: You are useless.
    Lucinda Lavender: except ...you are still caring for them...and perhaps that is enough
    Korel Laloix: That is even worse.
    --BELL--
    Korel Laloix: Caring for someone as they are getting killed is not a silver lining though.
    Lucinda Lavender: my thought is...that they may need your awareness/love to endure it
    Korel Laloix: I guess that is one way to look at it.
    Lucinda Lavender: there maybe something of love that connects to them
    Korel Laloix: Maybe the only positive way.
    Lucinda Lavender: it gives a way of enduring for you as well
    Korel Laloix: Could be.. thank you for that perspective.
    Lucinda Lavender: the dream thought or picture as love
    Korel Laloix: That was not the feel of the dream though.
    Lucinda Lavender: what was the feeling?
    Korel Laloix: Sickening disrepair.
    Korel Laloix: I can do nothing but watch.
    Korel Laloix: despair
    Lucinda Lavender: nodding
    Korel Laloix: despair
    Korel Laloix: Not sure how that word is spelled.
    Lucinda Lavender: but even just awareness of despair is the opposite of alones for these in the dream
    Lucinda Lavender: alone ness
    Lucinda Lavender: I see your despair= love
    Korel Laloix: Not sure how that works out though... not sure I agree that there is a balance or tradeoff there.
    Korel Laloix: Well, I would not have that despair if I did not love her, that is true.
    Lucinda Lavender: well...I think if they were in the room with you...and you were together...experiencing it...it might have some truth to it...not sure...sorry if it sounds strong on my part
    Lucinda Lavender: maybe the situation has truth and that is all there is
    Lucinda Lavender: regardless of feeling
    Lucinda Lavender: like tuning in on a TV station
    Korel Laloix: Not sure... but something to think about.
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    Korel Laloix: Would you mind if I shared this chat with my shrink?
    Lucinda Lavender: no! and feel free to share again with me their thought too!
    Korel Laloix: Thanks.. I will.
    Korel Laloix: But off to bed for me now.. I can feel it about to hit.
    Lucinda Lavender: It has been what I was exposed to through dream workshops with several teachers
    Lucinda Lavender: and my own experience
    Lucinda Lavender: sleep well
    Lucinda Lavender: till later
    Korel Laloix: Thanks... smiles
    Korel Laloix: Take care...
    Korel Laloix: I do appreciate the words.
    Lucinda Lavender: you too:))

     

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