2013.05.03 13:00 - timecrystals in a snowglobe

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Yakuzza Lethecus. The comments are by Yakuzza Lethecus.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey, good afternoon eos :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: haven´t seen you in a while
    Eos Amaterasu: HI Yaku
    Eos Amaterasu: How's life being for you, Yaku?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: can´t complain, life is ok, am a bit to stupid but life itself is fine
    Eos Amaterasu: Life is outsmarting you?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, in a way i have that feeling but that´s something i felt even before secondlife
    Yakuzza Lethecus: just reappearing
    Eos Amaterasu: maybe if life is smarter and communicating with us that's a good thing
    Eos Amaterasu: gives just the feedback we need
    Yakuzza Lethecus: mainchat is a bit uncomfortable for details
    Eos Amaterasu: hmm, yes
    Eos Amaterasu: Is there a "theme" for this week?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i haven´t been following up, i was in sweden last week and came back thrusday, i did not check on the mailinglist
    Yakuzza Lethecus: strange chatlag
    Yakuzza Lethecus: do you see this 3 times ?
    Eos Amaterasu: no, I'm only seeing lines once
    --BELL--
    Yakuzza Lethecus: how do you sit right now ?
    Eos Amaterasu: How do I "sit", or how "am I"?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: how do you sit and how you are :)
    Eos Amaterasu: I right click on an object to sit :-)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well actually i meant in rl :)
    Eos Amaterasu: how I meditate?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well not exactly, only if you have a medationposition when going to the pavillion
    Eos Amaterasu: I came across this instruction which I like: " S henpen Ö sel The Clear Light of the Buddha’s Teachings Which Benefits All Beings December 1999 – January 2000Volume 3, Number 3 The intellect cannot see that which is beyond conceptual mind,and you will never realize that which is uncreated throughcreated dharmas. If you wish to attain or realize that which isbeyond the intellect and is uncreated, then scrutinize your mind and strip awareness naked" - Tilopa, from http://www.scribd.com/doc/2551906/Ti...tan-Meditation
    Yakuzza Lethecus: or you sit at ur laptop like you would usually sit and use it ?
    Eos Amaterasu: In these 90 seconds I sit at my seat by the computer
    Eos Amaterasu: otherwise in RL I sit on a cushion, facing out the French door windows
    Yakuzza Lethecus: oh, eos in paris ?
    Eos Amaterasu: heh heh
    Eos Amaterasu: I like the pattern of not trying to achieve anything, but rather just noting the ways mind fills itself, and letting those let be dropped naturally
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: 's current display-name is "Eliza".
    Eos Amaterasu: hi eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eos, Yaku :)
    Eliza Madrigal: quiet Friday.... not sure if I am seen (cloud to myself today - hard time rezzing)
    Eos Amaterasu: (I will have to leave in 5 mins)
    Eos Amaterasu: You are not a cloud (except for part of your head :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: Still in paradise?
    Eliza Madrigal: haha :)
    Eliza Madrigal: ty for the note Yaku
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aggers :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Evening all
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey cloudy aga
    Eos Amaterasu: I am back in Nova Scotia after just having been in California, and Yosemite Valley there
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Ags
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: No Wollie?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well just came online
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh she came on ha
    Eos Amaterasu: I brought back a snowglobe with Yosemite in it :-)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Eos Amaterasu: virtual Yosemite in the palm of my hand
    Agatha Macbeth: I remember Snowglobe
    Eos Amaterasu: Yosemite is beyond awesome - you'all must visit at least once in your life
    Eliza Madrigal: would love to
    Eliza Madrigal: share some highlights?
    Eos Amaterasu: the Mariposa Grove of sequoias (giant Redwoods) up to 2000 years old
    Agatha Macbeth: Nice
    Wol Euler: evening all, sorry I'm late
    Eliza Madrigal: amazing world
    Eliza Madrigal waves Hello to Wol
    Agatha Macbeth: Here's our girl
    Eos Amaterasu: the scale of the valley, with very high peaks vertically rising, with some waterfalls coming down
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Wol
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey wol
    Eos Amaterasu: sry,must leave....
    Eliza Madrigal: okay Eos, good to see you
    Wol Euler: bye eos, take care
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Eos, hug a few sequoias
    Yakuzza Lethecus: thx for visiting
    Eliza Madrigal: is certainly on the bucket list... communing with the ancient sequoias
    --BELL--
    Agatha Macbeth: Working late?
    Wol Euler: yeah
    Wol Euler: the competitions
    Agatha Macbeth: Thought a much
    Wol Euler: months to go but already time feels short
    Agatha Macbeth: +s
    Agatha Macbeth: Never pondered what time feels like
    Wol Euler: well, it#s kinda squishy around the middle
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Wol Euler: but the edges are firm, even sharp sometimes
    Agatha Macbeth: Erk
    Eliza Madrigal: was going to say like crystals...
    Wol Euler: mmmm, yes
    Eliza Madrigal: had been reading an article before I got here actually
    Wol Euler listens.
    Agatha Macbeth: ?
    Eliza Madrigal: just that there is a scientist proposing that view of time... very upsetting to previous thinking I guess....
    Eliza Madrigal: didn't get through it all yet :)
    Eliza Madrigal: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/20...n%252Bfacebook
    Agatha Macbeth: Those are the kind I like
    Eliza Madrigal: upsetting sort?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
    Agatha Macbeth: Shake em up
    Eliza Madrigal: ox carts toppling
    Agatha Macbeth: Stops complacency
    Eliza Madrigal: certainly is fun to think about
    Agatha Macbeth grins
    Agatha Macbeth: Lovely dress btw
    Agatha Macbeth: Shanghai Liz
    Wol Euler: yes, I thought so as I arrived :)
    Wol Euler: fascinating article, I'll read it carefully later
    Eliza Madrigal: :) would like to see myself... glad to know I'm dressed at least
    Arisia Vita: 's current display-name is "Ari".
    Arisia Vita: greetings all
    Wol Euler: hello ari
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey ari
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ari
    Wol Euler: happy friday
    Agatha Macbeth: You can't see yourself?
    Arisia Vita: ty, same to you all
    Yakuzza Lethecus: onigokko
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Ari dear
    Agatha Macbeth: Erk
    Eliza Madrigal: can't... difficult time signing on too... hope not due to lightning the other day
    Yakuzza Lethecus: stop
    Agatha Macbeth: Actually it does seem laggy here, last night too
    Eliza Madrigal: I was signing on elsewhere and tried several times... so am sure it is just me
    Eliza Madrigal: was doing some file cleaning too so hopefully didn't delete bridge components that were necessary
    Agatha Macbeth: Well I see you perfectly
    Wol Euler: that shouldn't be a problem, the bridge *should* recreate itself
    Agatha Macbeth: A bridge too far?
    Wol Euler: over troubled networks, perhaps
    Eliza Madrigal: pesky files... hard to know which are "must haves" or throw ins
    Agatha Macbeth pokes Wol
    Wol Euler: heheh
    Agatha Macbeth: What does the bridge actually *do*?
    Eliza Madrigal: communicates with something?
    Wol Euler: the truth? I have no real idea
    Agatha Macbeth: Really? Wow
    Agatha Macbeth: I never heard you say that before! :p
    Wol Euler: it enables some scripting and database-relation abilities in Firestorm that aren't inthe standard Lab set, but what those are in detail I do not know
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Agatha Macbeth: So you do know, Ms Modest
    Eliza Madrigal: lol
    Wol Euler: bridge as in "crossing over gaps in the Lab feature set"
    Wol Euler: heheheheh
    Wol Euler: well, "know" is a large and flexible term
    Eliza Madrigal: you don't have to not know just to fit in Wol :P
    Agatha Macbeth: Knowing LL there are probably a few of those
    Agatha Macbeth: Bridging gaps is an interesting concept
    Wol Euler nods.
    Eliza Madrigal: "thoughts as things"
    Eliza Madrigal: bridges: thoughts> words> metaphors
    Wol Euler nods.
    Wol Euler: somebody said at the last retreat, either Eos or Pema, that one could choose whether to be a bridge or a doormat :) both get walked on but there is a great difference
    Eliza Madrigal: I remember that!
    Eliza Madrigal: but had forgotten it until now
    Agatha Macbeth: Probably Pema :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I think it was
    Wol Euler: good :) as I said it I thought "what a wierd idea, perhaps I dreamt it" :))))
    Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like him
    Eliza Madrigal: good ears Aggers ^^
    Agatha Macbeth: Nanu nanu
    Eliza Madrigal: hah
    Wol Euler chuckles.
    Eliza Madrigal: is quite true... somehow "laying down one's life" comes to mind... and what that means in those two contexts...
    Eliza Madrigal: dignity of service vs fearful submission
    Agatha Macbeth: Hm, yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Or laying down the law
    --BELL--
    Arisia Vita: welcome Arch
    Archmage Atlantis: 's current display-name is "Arch".
    Agatha Macbeth: YAY
    Wol Euler: hello Arch, lovely to see you again. Happy Friday.
    Archmage Atlantis: The world is in turmoil
    Agatha Macbeth: Great to see you again
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Arch, nice to see you - microphone is on
    Archmage Atlantis: Are you ready to stand
    Arisia Vita: turmoil?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey arch
    Agatha Macbeth: Isn't the world always in turmoil?
    Wol Euler listens.
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, Agatha
    Archmage Atlantis: but not like it is now
    Wol Euler: what is happening, Arch? What is different?
    Archmage Atlantis: I haven't been able to fiigure out how to turn the microphone off
    Eliza Madrigal: oh :( , well, as long as you know
    Archmage Atlantis: I've delayed coming back
    Yakuzza Lethecus: which viewer ?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, we missed you
    Wol Euler: we did
    Archmage Atlantis: I delivered the msg
    Archmage Atlantis: I go
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: gone :(
    Wol Euler: gnomic as ever.
    Agatha Macbeth: Well I'm glad he's okay
    Wol Euler nods.
    Eliza Madrigal: hm
    Agatha Macbeth: (Okay by Arch standrads at least)
    Wol Euler: right :)
    Agatha Macbeth: (and standards too)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hm, is the world in any more turmoil than normal?
    Wol Euler: I haven't seen the news today
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh boy
    Agatha Macbeth: :p
    Wol Euler: heheheheh
    Arisia Vita: I'm not sure the news is the best measure of the world's true state.
    Eliza Madrigal nods Ari
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe there are some holes in Blackburn?
    Wol Euler: well, I haven't seen the olds either
    Arisia Vita: pay attention to the in-betweens :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hmm
    Eliza Madrigal: we're in this time... not so useful to compare perhaps, though almost irresistable
    Wol Euler nods.
    Eliza Madrigal: at least history can say "tried that! Next!"
    Wol Euler: decline is to civilizations as gravity is to spacecraft in orbit
    Wol Euler: it pulls them along and keeps them moving
    Arisia Vita: much of what we see as the world's state is really a reflection of our own...
    Wol Euler: true
    Eliza Madrigal: not that right now isn't really interesting, things changing too fast to keep up with
    Eliza Madrigal: and having to learn to accept and work with that
    Eliza Madrigal: but yeah... maybe that's my own mind I'm talking about
    Wol Euler: no, eliza, I think every one of us on the planet has at least one such corner of not-keeping-up
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Arisia Vita: speaking of things moving quickly...I must be off to another meeting...it was great being with you all-made my world seem quite nice...ty
    Agatha Macbeth: No keepy uppy
    Wol Euler: even if it's that the speed of turnover in celebrities seems to have declined to a few hours
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Ari, be blue
    Arisia Vita: hope to see you all again soon
    Wol Euler: bye ari, take care
    Arisia Vita: the blue of a happy sky
    Eliza Madrigal: bye Ari :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: thx for comming ari
    Arisia Vita: my pleasure
    Eliza Madrigal: maybe that's why people can't find, much less know, themselves... themselves running too far ahead.... :)
    Wol Euler nods.
    Wol Euler: all afraid that our fifteen minutes were actually seconds, and are already finished
    Agatha Macbeth: Fifteen seconds of fame...must be inflation
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe - ego inflation
    Wol Euler nods.
    Agatha Macbeth: Some don't need that!
    Agatha Macbeth: The exact opposite might help in fact
    Eliza Madrigal: might...
    Eliza Madrigal hums a tune... "let's get deflated..."
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Wol Euler: I hear Chet Baker singing that
    Agatha Macbeth makes a farting noise as the air runs out
    Agatha Macbeth: We're on the road to nowhere
    Eliza Madrigal: time after time
    Eliza Madrigal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nchEXBimNlg
    Wol Euler: I hear David Byrne singing that :)
    Agatha Macbeth: He did
    --BELL--
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Eliza Madrigal didn't know who Chet Baker was... always learn something here, even on Fridays :)
    Eliza Madrigal: have to go, though.... hugs
    Agatha Macbeth: Okay next question...who took the ring?
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Liz
    Eliza Madrigal: ring?
    Wol Euler: goodnight, dear eliza, take care
    Agatha Macbeth: It's gone
    Eliza Madrigal: which? Boxy's? That's here
    Agatha Macbeth: Huh?
    Agatha Macbeth: I can't see it
    Wol Euler wonders what on earth Aggers is talking about
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: you are surrounded by it
    Agatha Macbeth: The red ring isn't there
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye eliza
    Wol Euler: yes it is :) very pale right now, but definitely here
    Yakuzza Lethecus: onigokko
    Wol Euler: I
    Agatha Macbeth: It came back
    Wol Euler: I'm sitting on it (apart from the onigokko)
    Eliza Madrigal: :) bye lovely people
    Agatha Macbeth: <3
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm too slow for this tonight
    Yakuzza Lethecus: stop
    Agatha Macbeth: I see it now, but faint
    Wol Euler: yeppers
    Agatha Macbeth: During the pause I couldn't see it at all
    Wol Euler: odd .....
    Yakuzza Lethecus: seems none of the features except accelerating is working
    Agatha Macbeth: That is truly odd
    Yakuzza Lethecus: onigokko
    Yakuzza Lethecus: stop
    Agatha Macbeth: The magic roundabout
    Wol Euler yawns and nods
    Agatha Macbeth: I didn't say time for bed!
    Agatha Macbeth: Boing
    Wol Euler: just yawning
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but i think it is time for bed
    Agatha Macbeth: Schlaf gut Yaku
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: gute nacht, yaku, schlaf gut
    Yakuzza Lethecus: sleep well you two, at some point
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: it won't be long
    Wol Euler: as the dwarf said to teh actress
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh will be a while for me yet :p
    Agatha Macbeth looks sideways
    Wol Euler giggles.
    Agatha Macbeth: I do love that hair
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: I put it back on for you
    Agatha Macbeth: Thank you <3
    Agatha Macbeth: Shall we stop the recorder to save Yaku more work?
    Wol Euler: sure :)

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