2010.05.04 07:00 - 100 POV on the shielf

The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

Dear scribe, I save this now just to have it logged.  Will come back to color and orchestrate.  This is perhaps where the riddle meet the road.

Riddle Sideways: Good Morning, Oh great PaB Listener
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: morning arch
Riddle Sideways: ah, even tigers are cute when young/little
Archmage Atlantis: Morning, Riddle
Riddle Sideways: when they weigh one Kilo then can sit upon the shoulder nicely
Archmage Atlantis: All young are cute, even alligators and pythons :)
Riddle Sideways: when they weigh 200 pounds they are tough on shoulder
Riddle Sideways: morning, Lucinda
Lucinda Lavender: Morning Riddle, Archmage
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, but they still want to sit there :) - Like children continue to wish to be held as adults, even if only metaphorically......Morning, Lucinda
Riddle Sideways: the song... "Ya musta been a beautiful baby..."
Riddle Sideways: does not say the "look at you now.."
Riddle Sideways: is a possitive or negitive thing
Riddle Sideways: :)
Archmage Atlantis: Koya is special though, she does not change, only observes
Lucinda Lavender: Is Koya a cat? it is hard to tell for me...
Riddle Sideways: ah that fits my favorite (today) saying...
Archmage Atlantis: She is a white tiger cub
Riddle Sideways: the only thing that changes is your attitude towards it
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Archmage Atlantis: smile, true the majority of the time, Riddle, quite true
Riddle Sideways: morning, Darren
Darren Islar: hi everyone
Lucinda Lavender: Some how I remember that the white cats are symbolic of intuition of a powerful sort?
Archmage Atlantis: Well, I am not certain of that, Lucinda.....but Koya's full name is interesting.....Koyaanisqatsi Marie
Lucinda Lavender: I see, that is a movie name as well I think....the long k word...
Archmage Atlantis: She revealed it's origin to me.......Koyaanisqatsi is a Hopi word which means "world out of balance...a state of life that calls for another way." Marie is of French origin. Variant of Mary (Latin) "star of the sea"
Riddle Sideways: The grey cat blocking me from my keyboard, thinks she is the symbol of ALL of the most powerful way
Darren Islar: :-)
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Darren
Darren Islar: hi Luci, welcome to the club :-)
Darren Islar: *welcom
Lucinda Lavender: thanks...
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, my RL cat runs the house...fortunately the fish and birds don't get that kind of ....? ....access I guess
Riddle Sideways: Darren, come sit closer. I will not bring back the pool until you are sitting in it
Archmage Atlantis: Hi, Darren
Darren Islar: hi Arch
Darren Islar: as far as I can see I'm sitting quite close to you :-)
Riddle Sideways: :)
Darren Islar: but if you insist......
Lucinda Lavender: before it was like you were sitting on riddles shoulder
Darren Islar waves to Riddle
Lucinda Lavender: from my point of view
Riddle Sideways: from your POV
Darren Islar: oh :-)
Riddle Sideways: :)
Archmage Atlantis: Which brings us back to your saying, Riddle :)
Darren Islar: didn;t mean to Riddle, shoulder still okay :-)
Riddle Sideways: thnigs seem to depend on POV
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: [07:01] Riddle Sideways: when they weigh one Kilo then can sit upon the shoulder nicely [07:01] Archmage Atlantis: All young are cute, even alligators and pythons :) [07:02] Riddle Sideways: when they weigh 200 pounds they are tough on shoulder
Lucinda Lavender: hmmm
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Darren Islar: whispers: sorry
Riddle Sideways: np, is just an illusion
Riddle Sideways: lately have been deep nito POV and attitude towards it
Riddle Sideways: *into
Darren Islar: as it is an illusion that I'm sitting in a circle that can turn into a pool any moment :-)
Lucinda Lavender: in the sense of noticing it?
Darren Islar: and still not getting wet :-)
Darren Islar: oh nice :-)
Darren Islar likes the feeling of water very much
Lucinda Lavender: this suggests a flow of sorts
Riddle Sideways: oh ok
Darren Islar is now trying to be serious
Riddle Sideways: seems like we kiddies are sitting in the inflated pool in the front yard
Archmage Atlantis: Thinks with that arrangement my koi would be running things also :) - not just my cat, Nimbus
Lucinda Lavender: and the sun is hot...
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Darren Islar: hmmmm, sounds all very good to me
Riddle Sideways: cats do not rule water
Archmage Atlantis: This one does, he is a Bengal
Riddle Sideways: that was koi
Lucinda Lavender: Lucinda thinking she has not spent much time swimming with fish...
Darren Islar: isn't a koi a fish?
Archmage Atlantis: Yes koi are carp
Riddle Sideways: as a bengal is a cat
Archmage Atlantis: Just selected over time by humans for characteristics
Darren Islar: and which one of the two is exactly ruling the water?
Lucinda Lavender: I am just remembering my dream...
Riddle Sideways: ah, do tell
Darren Islar feels indeed like a litte child again :-)
Archmage Atlantis: Please, Lucinda, tell....and rescue me from Darren's question about animal rights :)
Darren Islar: please tell luci
Darren Islar: :-)
Riddle Sideways: :)
Lucinda Lavender: something about walking down stairs with children and singing the song that goes I love you, you love me...we are a happy family...
Riddle Sideways wishes I did not think of Barney
Lucinda Lavender: yes...me too
Riddle Sideways: Is a great song and thought
Darren Islar: Barney?
Lucinda Lavender: what was nice was discovering eye contact amid the song...
Archmage Atlantis: Purple
Lucinda Lavender: Dinosaur
Lucinda Lavender: on tv
Darren Islar: Flintstones
Darren Islar: ?
Riddle Sideways: was kiddie show on tv
Lucinda Lavender: newer than that...80's?
Archmage Atlantis: With a 3 year old child's perspective on lidw
Archmage Atlantis: *life
Riddle Sideways: great songs and thoughts and lessons
Darren Islar: ok
Riddle Sideways: but that purple dinosaur was tough to take
Lucinda Lavender: inside the suit was a person with an enthusiatic voice as I remember.
Archmage Atlantis: I need to excuse myself.....I will definitely have to read today's log later to see where this conversation goes *grin* ...... Blessings and Namaste
Riddle Sideways: bye arch
Darren Islar: bye Arch (for the record I'm afraid)
Riddle Sideways: yes, I had soo many hopes for today's chat
Lucinda Lavender: bye Archmage who floats away on a cloud of starry cloud
Darren Islar: meaning?
Riddle Sideways: have been reading retreat notes and 100 day emails
Riddle Sideways: RL am on the 34th day of counting the omat
Darren Islar: 100 days?
Riddle Sideways: omar
Riddle Sideways: Pema noted that there were 100 days
Riddle Sideways: between last and next retreat
Darren Islar: oh, sorry, yes, those 100days
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: last year he started a 100 day meditation
Riddle Sideways: seemed easier then, about appreiation
Riddle Sideways: APA
Riddle Sideways: this year it seemed harder
Lucinda Lavender: hmmm
Riddle Sideways: to place ones self into play as Being
Lucinda Lavender: are their points of view that interrupt play?

Riddle Sideways: then this morning I looked at it from 12 different POV
Darren Islar: I've been trying to understand what that might be, but can't figure it out
Darren Islar: I get stuck at You seeing
Riddle Sideways: one of the easy is SL
Riddle Sideways: this POV where some "I" is behind the av
Lucinda Lavender: can you describe a challenging one?
Riddle Sideways: I am over my own shoulder
Riddle Sideways: very challenging one is ... thinking me is g-d
Riddle Sideways: how dare an I do that
Lucinda Lavender: do some feel more true than others?
Riddle Sideways: a little easier to think thru the "I create all this Reality"
Riddle Sideways: Oh and then there is the whole mathimatical construct of the geometry of N dimensions
Darren Islar is listening
Riddle Sideways: taking the one point (me) and expanding out
Riddle Sideways: into how many dimensions???
Riddle Sideways: the little point (me) is self-centered (by def) and limited
Riddle Sideways: we 3 define a plane
Riddle Sideways: Being defines a _____
Riddle Sideways: need to work on that ____ (word)
Riddle Sideways: when we are all the points, planes, solids, gases
Riddle Sideways: what music do we dance to
Riddle Sideways: The first email defs of play as Being were confusing
Lucinda Lavender: Lucinda remembers the trees in 2L that appear full from one point of view and just a plane from another...
Riddle Sideways: until the one about POV
Riddle Sideways: yes, and how the (v.) world rezs
Riddle Sideways: grey planes that turn into trees
Lucinda Lavender: this seems like practice on observing
Riddle Sideways: ovserving / seeing
Riddle Sideways: b
Lucinda Lavender: and perhaps it extends to the architecture of all we can expereince
Lucinda Lavender: the seen and the unseen
Riddle Sideways: from the simple exercise of standing in front of a beautiful painting
Riddle Sideways: what do you seee
Riddle Sideways: to the SL viewer in front of you
Riddle Sideways: what do you see
Riddle Sideways: what do you not see
Riddle Sideways: to that world of workplace, play-place, eat-place
Riddle Sideways: what do you see/unseen
Lucinda Lavender: I had the image come at the beginning of this of getting out my knife to cut into Riddles Cake.
Lucinda Lavender: To find out what was in there...
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: looking for liquid creamy center?
Riddle Sideways: digging in for the center?
Riddle Sideways: some riddles need you to look deeply
Riddle Sideways: others need to be look at lightly
Riddle Sideways: opps, talked thru bell
Darren Islar: O warn you next time :-)
Darren Islar: *I
Lucinda Lavender: for me it has a red center...and what was unexpected is taste!
Lucinda Lavender: just my POV...
Riddle Sideways: when we bring a new POV to the same ol' life
Riddle Sideways: we might bring those other sences too
Riddle Sideways: taste the new POV
Lucinda Lavender: newly enlivend
Riddle Sideways: hear the music
Lucinda Lavender: yes you mentioned music...
Riddle Sideways: need to hear my co-workers words, but also really hear their song they sing
Lucinda Lavender: takes paptience sometimes for me...
Lucinda Lavender: oops patience
Riddle Sideways: was reminded that not everybody is listening to the music all the time
Darren Islar: no :-)
Riddle Sideways: takes patience to hear your heart beat
Riddle Sideways: with so much noise about
Riddle Sideways: within... the music of our breathe
Riddle Sideways: without... the fountain spray mucis
Lucinda Lavender: it has been suggested to me that if we take our pulse...we can connect to the heart energy and deal more effortllessly with the drama around us.
Lucinda Lavender: the heart might be the red center!
Darren Islar: it is way of connecting to your body
Darren Islar: or with
Darren Islar: it puts you back in the center
Lucinda Lavender: beating, pumping, flowing. at hte center.
Darren Islar: let you less expand
Darren Islar: and more, it has a rithm, that hardly changes
Riddle Sideways: taking/bringing the comfort zone and mixing into the other/real/wrorld
Lucinda Lavender: yes!
Darren Islar: yes
Darren Islar: and the 'beat' is very much alive
Riddle Sideways: by definition
Lucinda Lavender: can I exchange my energy with that of the persons in front of me?
Riddle Sideways: of course
Riddle Sideways: but blending is easier
Lucinda Lavender: trust
Lucinda Lavender: can be so hard in the realm of anxiety
Riddle Sideways: we could go there, but it enough to take a different POV on the same ol'
Lucinda Lavender: simpler
Riddle Sideways: we can get wrapped up in emotions and previous stuff, but might try just doing new
--BELL--
Darren Islar: (bell)
Riddle Sideways: ty, but heard it that time
Darren Islar: it depends on the kind of aniety I guess
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Darren Islar: :-)
Riddle Sideways: no,
Riddle Sideways: worth a try without the aniety this time
Darren Islar: not if you're body can't let go
Riddle Sideways: pack the bagage
Riddle Sideways: body can stay (this time), let the mind go
Darren Islar: or when it is that deep that you can't grab it, deny it or work with it in any way
Darren Islar: not if you feel your heart beat
Darren Islar: there is the kind of aniety that is close to be or not to be
Riddle Sideways: try adjusting your POV... deep dark places are scary, but I like to sleep in the dark place
Darren Islar: and if you can't find the dark place?
Riddle Sideways: just look at the place you are
Darren Islar: panicattack is very easy to deal with
Darren Islar: nothing
Lucinda Lavender: must go, thanks so much for this...
Darren Islar: nothing there, it seems
Darren Islar: bye Luci
Riddle Sideways: need to go look at co-workers too
Darren Islar: okay
Darren Islar: bye Riddl
Riddle Sideways: they do teh funniest things
Darren Islar: :-)
Riddle Sideways: bye and thanks
Darren Islar: thank you too :-)
Riddle Sideways: jump higher lucida
Darren Islar: I heard quite a few things today :-)
Lucinda Lavender: mee too:)
Darren Islar: flying is to fast for me :-)