Catrinamonblue Resident: 's current display-name is "Catrinamonblue".
--BELL--
Eos Amaterasu: Meow, Cat
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: evening Eos :)
Eos Amaterasu: Good evening, lady in turquoise (?) gown
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: I'm afraid I'm not very talkative tonight
Eos Amaterasu: I had an idea, inspiration, about how to approach the theme of love and being
Catrinamonblue Resident: listening :)
Eos Amaterasu: based on some of what was said in the guardian meeting...
Eos Amaterasu:
Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I'd like to explore Love's relationship to Being
Being Bleu (bleu.oleander): can love prevail through the stages of dropping?
Practice: however you experience love, experience that in the 90-second dropping.
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: hi Aph
Eos Amaterasu: So in each of the 90 second pauses tonight, experience love however you experience that, in the gap itself
Aphrodite Macbain: hi
Eos Amaterasu: "through the stages of dropping"
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Aph
Catrinamonblue Resident: will try Eos it sounds interesting
Eos Amaterasu: I'll give you a notecard with the approach this session
Aphrodite Macbain: dropping into love?
Catrinamonblue Resident: though I am still not used to the dropping
Aphrodite Macbain: thanks
Aphrodite Macbain: I find the easiest way to do that is concentrate on a body part or a sense - move back into the body
Aphrodite Macbain: and dut of your yead
Aphrodite Macbain: out
Aphrodite Macbain: head
Eos Amaterasu likes "dut of your yead" :-)
Aphrodite Macbain: sounds like ango saxon!
Eos Amaterasu: (sorry, this isn't Facebook :-)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm not
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Eos Amaterasu: what do you think that means,
"Eliza (eliza.madrigal): I'd like to explore Love's relationship to Being
Bleu (bleu.oleander): can love prevail through through the stages of dropping?"
Eos Amaterasu: is there a love without attachment?
Aphrodite Macbain: I suppose that depends how we define love
Eos Amaterasu: there are many words for love in Latin
Aphrodite Macbain: ues
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Eos Amaterasu: eros, agape, filia, ...
Aphrodite Macbain: can u reined me about agape?
Aphrodite Macbain: sigh: remind
Aphrodite Macbain: I suspect that is the detached form of love
Eos Amaterasu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape
Eos Amaterasu: more universal kind of love, like of god for mankind
Aphrodite Macbain: "an intentional response to promote well-being when responding to that which has generated ill-being."[3]
Aphrodite Macbain: hmmm
Catrinamonblue Resident: hard
Aphrodite Macbain: It sounds like it is the love a god has for humans. But not the othr way round
Eos Amaterasu: we could try something like that, but maybe first just experiencing
Eos Amaterasu: love
Eos Amaterasu: however we do that or that comes up
Eos Amaterasu: and then dropping within that
Eos Amaterasu: or around that
Eos Amaterasu: something like that
Catrinamonblue Resident: smiles
Eos Amaterasu: play as being in love
Aphrodite Macbain: very clear Eros!
Eos Amaterasu: I think Shakespeare was great at that: "play as being in love"
Aphrodite Macbain: I will try and drop my current state and feel love. Interesting I called you Eros!
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
--BELL--
Catrinamonblue Resident: love of self is a soft deep place where the child within is curled up tight
Aphrodite Macbain: nicely said Cat :-)
Catrinamonblue Resident: ty
Eos Amaterasu: can you say more, Cat?
Aphrodite Macbain: listens
Catrinamonblue Resident: it where the hurt goes when confronted with anger
Eos Amaterasu: hmm, yes
Catrinamonblue Resident: it is where the child hums a soft tune
Catrinamonblue Resident: rocking back and forth
Catrinamonblue Resident: holding to form of love
Catrinamonblue Resident: sry I'm rather criptic tonight
Eos Amaterasu: vivid imagery, cat
Aphrodite Macbain: you choose strong words
Catrinamonblue Resident: emotions are strong
Aphrodite Macbain: sometimes it is important to revisit that child
Aphrodite Macbain: to get strength from her
Eos Amaterasu: curl and uncurl
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes she is the center
Catrinamonblue Resident: she/he
Aphrodite Macbain: s/he relaxes and uncurls with/in love
Catrinamonblue Resident: smiles
Aphrodite Macbain: and spreads out beyond yourself to include others
Eos Amaterasu: emotion uncurls also?
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes
Aphrodite Macbain: or perhaps dissipates
Catrinamonblue Resident: maybe
Eos Amaterasu: "after the storm there will be clearing" :-) (as the weather report says)
Aphrodite Macbain: evapourates in the warmth
Catrinamonblue Resident: smiles at Eos
Eos Amaterasu: How was your 90 seconds, Aph?
Aphrodite Macbain: too full of thoughts
Catrinamonblue Resident: tell us some
Catrinamonblue Resident: if you can
Aphrodite Macbain: a jumble.
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: and Eos then?
Aphrodite Macbain: thinking about what the Zen teacher told e on Sunday, worrying about you Cat, thinking about the things I must do
Eos Amaterasu: and love?
Aphrodite Macbain: nothing dropped I guess.
Eos Amaterasu: each of those was dropped :-)
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: love is always there
Eos Amaterasu: how so?
Aphrodite Macbain: I cant summon it up for 90 seconds
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes in many forms
Eos Amaterasu: hard to summon anything for 90 seconds
Aphrodite Macbain: It's not so much an emtion as an awareness
Catrinamonblue Resident: in each breath there is love
Catrinamonblue Resident: in each movement there is love
Eos Amaterasu: what is that love?
Ewan Bonham: 's current display-name is "Ewan".
Aphrodite Macbain: there is also hate and fear
Eos Amaterasu: (hi Ewan)
Aphrodite Macbain: in movement.
Catrinamonblue Resident: but love surrounds them
Aphrodite Macbain: Waves at Ewan
Aphrodite Macbain: I am not aware of that Cat
Aphrodite Macbain: as a constant
Ewan Bonham: hi folks...:)
Aphrodite Macbain: It comes and goes.
Catrinamonblue Resident: this is only the way I see it, may be differnt for others
Aphrodite Macbain: I love; I feel loved
Aphrodite Macbain: and then I dont
Aphrodite Macbain: and then I do
Eos Amaterasu: maybe in upcoming 90 seconds watch the coming and going
Eos Amaterasu: of love
Aphrodite Macbain wonders how to recognize it
Eos Amaterasu: you're on your own :-)
Catrinamonblue Resident: love is an energy that waxes and wanes around everything
Aphrodite Macbain: for me love is a giving and surrendering
--BELL--
Eos Amaterasu: energy
Ewan Bonham: Total opening of the heart..
Eos Amaterasu: Hmm.... asking who/what I love, I come to this situation, this session, to which I give time, energy, attention
Aphrodite Macbain: and love?
Catrinamonblue Resident: love is an energy it moves around in and through everything it doesn't come and go as such but softens and hardens as needed
Catrinamonblue Resident: it is always there
Eos Amaterasu: you attend a lot to who or what you love
Eos Amaterasu: if you attend to every detail of your life, your world....
Eos Amaterasu: maybe that's Cat's love, moving in and through everything?
Aphrodite Macbain: love isn't independent of us, moving on its own; it is within each of us, in its many shapes and colours
Eos Amaterasu: "love u take = love you make"
Aphrodite Macbain: and gives us hope and energy to act
Catrinamonblue Resident: for me I see love as independent
Eos Amaterasu: "the force that through the green fuse drives the chute?"
Aphrodite Macbain: ?
Eos Amaterasu: shoot ?
Eos Amaterasu: Dylan Thomas, probably got it not quite right
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Eos Amaterasu: energy
Aphrodite Macbain: what green fuse?
Aphrodite Macbain: diffusion of greenness?
Eos Amaterasu:
The force that through the green fuse drives the flower
Drives my green age; that blasts the roots of trees
Is my destroyer.
And I am dumb to tell the crooked rose
My youth is bent by the same wintry fever.
Aphrodite Macbain: I have miles to go before I sleep.
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: nice Eos. Thank you
Ewan Bonham: Bye Aphro
Eos Amaterasu: ciao, aph
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye everyone
Catrinamonblue Resident: Bye Aph
Eos Amaterasu: Bleu (bleu.oleander): can love prevail through the stages of dropping?
Aphrodite Macbain: may the force of love be with you
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Eos Amaterasu: like, for example, dropping expectations?
Catrinamonblue Resident: expectations on love never seem to work out
Eos Amaterasu: can love then carry on?
Ewan Bonham: always..
Eos Amaterasu: how does that feel?
Eos Amaterasu ponders and plumbs
Eos Amaterasu: I think you have to let go yourself first
Eos Amaterasu: then you can let go of other, and of expectation, maybe
Eos Amaterasu: and also allow other a lot more
Eos Amaterasu: so maybe love much more
Catrinamonblue Resident: maybe
Eos Amaterasu: beyond romatic
Eos Amaterasu: romantic
Eos Amaterasu: gypsy? wonder if that's where the word comes from?
Catrinamonblue Resident: always wanted to be a gypsy
Catrinamonblue Resident: wandering the roads of fate
Eos Amaterasu: a more danceable dharma bum
Eos Amaterasu: so, 90-second lab coming up: love through dropping, in dropping
Eos Amaterasu: from dropping
Eos Amaterasu: no expectation
--BELL--
Catrinamonblue Resident: but what are expectations, the wants and needs of ourselves wanting to be loved just as we are
Ewan Bonham: TY all... must go now...:)
Catrinamonblue Resident: Bye Ewan :)
Eos Amaterasu: ciao Ewan, thnx for being here!
Catrinamonblue Resident: did I scare them all away?
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Eos Amaterasu: question is, do I love myself just as I am?
Eos Amaterasu: is my own being okay with me?
Catrinamonblue Resident: mmm yes good question
Catrinamonblue Resident: hard to answer just now
Eos Amaterasu: expectations of ourselves
Catrinamonblue Resident: and if you are ok with you but someone you love is not then what?
Eos Amaterasu: How does that feel?
Catrinamonblue Resident: hurtful
Catrinamonblue Resident: like am not worth anything
Catrinamonblue Resident: they do not see
Catrinamonblue Resident: me
Eos Amaterasu: hmm
Eos Amaterasu: how do you see them?
Catrinamonblue Resident: sad, hurt, lonely angry needing to change
Catrinamonblue Resident: they are in pain and I do not know what to do
Eos Amaterasu: are you okay with you at that point?
Catrinamonblue Resident: sometimes yes
Eos Amaterasu: how do they seem, from that viewpoint?
Catrinamonblue Resident: in need of compassion
Catrinamonblue Resident: patience
Eos Amaterasu: hmm, wow, yes
Catrinamonblue Resident: hard to do when they pour their anger on you
Eos Amaterasu: yes, may be very hard to have enough space to breath
Catrinamonblue Resident: even though they do not understand it is not you but themselves they are angry at
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes breath is hard somedays
Catrinamonblue Resident: like today sigh....
Catrinamonblue Resident: but this helps
Catrinamonblue Resident: stopping and dropping into love
Catrinamonblue Resident: and finding that child there :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: that was a gift today to see her
Eos Amaterasu: what is that child like?
Catrinamonblue Resident: free :) to dance with the fairies in the wind
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Catrinamonblue Resident: joy and love alwasy
Eos Amaterasu: frolicking in phenomenality :-)
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes :)
Eos Amaterasu: sense perceptions let loose, energy releasing
Catrinamonblue Resident: nods
Eos Amaterasu: sometimes in art and music we also see those fairies
Catrinamonblue Resident: sometimes I go to a place in the woods where I can be alone and I dance with the fairies in the wind in RL :)
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
--BELL--
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes art and music hold the same magic
Eos Amaterasu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoApELfgWcg
Eos Amaterasu: On those notes, must depart....
Eos Amaterasu: thank you so much for this evening, cat
Catrinamonblue Resident: oh how could you know!!!!!
Catrinamonblue Resident: so love that one
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Eos Amaterasu: see, true magic!
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: thank you :)