2013.05.22 13:00 - Title goes here

The Guardian for this meeting was Rosatta Resident. The comments are by Rosatta Resident.

Rosatta Resident: 's current display-name is "Rosatta".
Eliza Madrigal: 's current display-name is "Eliza".
Rosatta Resident: She's a Necko, but her friend /partner is a fairy. That is what got her started
Rosatta Resident: Why did it start recording before the session start time?
Eliza Madrigal: it begins a few minutes earlier if there are guardians about - feels our presence :)
Eliza Madrigal: opens the door before showtime ;-)
Rosatta Resident: Oh : )
Eliza Madrigal: we'll need to take your picture for the host board and guardian page :) Just seeing now that Bleu changed hers...
Rosatta Resident: Ok
Eliza Madrigal: if you've taken one of yourself that you like, you can pass that long to bleu
Rosatta Resident: I haven't, but I will get that done
Rosatta Resident: I think I need to fix my hair - I think a bit of it is coming through beside one eye
Eliza Madrigal: hm, don't see that... but maybe... I had to readjust my head several times for this hair, lol
Rosatta Resident: : )
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: how are your Artist Way explorations going?
Rosatta Resident: Hmmmm . . . . I'm trying to decide lol
Rosatta Resident: I am working through the book backwards this time through. I found I was skimping or even just skipping the last chapters so I did Chapter 12 to start
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Rosatta Resident: I realized why I had been glossing over it. As I made myself actually think about what it was saying - including looking up definitions of words to clarify they way TAW was using them
Rosatta Resident: there wre a lot of ideas that were alien for me
Rosatta Resident: It sometimes took me two days to do a single sentence because it would have two ideas in it and I needed to look at each separately
Rosatta Resident: I think I did myself some good doing that
Eliza Madrigal: bringing all of your awareness to it
Rosatta Resident: I hadn't thought of that
Rosatta Resident: ty
Eliza Madrigal: very special when one can commune with a book ... book companion :)
Beautifulmarira Resident: 's current display-name is "Mari".
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mari :)
Rosatta Resident: You are showing me new ways to understand what I am doing - good way. ty
Rosatta Resident: Hi, Mari : )
Beautifulmarira Resident: hello :)
Eliza Madrigal: find it inspiring ... in our time we read read read... so much content... but it is something else to really attend?
Eliza Madrigal: and I like the permission Julia Cameron gives to her readers
Eliza Madrigal: she is married to a writer also isn't she? or maybe that is Byron Katie
Rosatta Resident: She and Byron were partners at one time - lovers and in doing TAW, but they are not married now
Rosatta Resident: I think they were married for a short bit
Rosatta Resident: She's single as far as I know
--BELL--
Rosatta Resident: I, too, love the way she starts the book by saying 'above all, use it creatively'
Rosatta Resident: I hadn't planned to, but I worked through the appendix, too. I just started Chapter 11 this morning
Eliza Madrigal: what is the exploration for 11?
Eliza Madrigal: I had the book years ago... should have kept it but I've done some shedding in the last few years :)
Rosatta Resident: Recovering a sense of autonomy
Eliza Madrigal: interesting
Eliza Madrigal: (gentle flapping of your wings is very soothing)
Rosatta Resident: If you every get the urge to replace it, abebooks.com has many copies for less that $5 including s&h
Rosatta Resident: Ty : )
Eliza Madrigal: ty :)
Rosatta Resident: Pryda does good work
Rosatta Resident: They talk to you, too, if you touch them
Eliza Madrigal smiles.... would have thought that intrusive... but since you told me...
Eliza Madrigal: ::reaches:::::
Eliza Madrigal: beautiful!
Beautifulmarira Resident: smiles
Rosatta Resident: I'm not sure if there is more than one message or if each set of wings has a different one, but I actually hadn't seen that one before
Eliza Madrigal: inventive
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Wol :)
Wol Euler: evening all!
Beautifulmarira Resident: hello ol
Rosatta Resident: Hello, Wol : )
Beautifulmarira Resident: Wol :)
Wol Euler smiles.
Rosatta Resident: lol
Eliza Madrigal giggles....
Wol Euler smiles.
Rosatta Resident: guess they are scripted with multiple messages
Arisia Vita: 's current display-name is "Ari".
Wol Euler: hello ari
Arisia Vita: greetings all
Wol Euler: brb
Eliza Madrigal: greetings Ari
Beautifulmarira Resident: hello Ari
Arisia Vita: what a lovely group of friends...
Rosatta Resident: Hello, Ari. We are very priviledged with PaB friends : )
Arisia Vita: as am I
Wol Euler nods.
Eliza Madrigal: anticipated stress at work passed now, Wol?
Wol Euler: no, it's ongoing.
Wol Euler: we have indeed given up one of hte competitions, so it won't be quite as awful as I feared
Eliza Madrigal: congratulations on giving up?
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: thank you, it was the right decision and at least for myself easy to make
Wol Euler: I suspect the boss had a harder time of it
Eliza Madrigal: got to know when to hold em... when to fold em...
Wol Euler: exactly :)
Wol Euler: a great song, taht :)
Eliza Madrigal: :) funny that it just popped into mind - lately songs I've not thought of in decades have been appearing...
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: they never go away
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: some quite unfortunately, hah
Beautifulmarira Resident: music is very important in life
Rosatta Resident: Sometimes words from songs are the strongest help in keeping stress from becoming totally overwhelming
Beautifulmarira Resident: yes
Eliza Madrigal: like mantras
Beautifulmarira Resident: for sure
Wol Euler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FLDdjj27kQ :)
Eliza Madrigal click
Eliza Madrigal: couldn't get the exact video but found another at your pointer
Wol Euler: "if you're gonna play the game, boy, you gotta play it right"
Eliza Madrigal: what are songs each of us goes back to for inspiration?
Wol Euler: when I need calming and soothing, I put on Getz/Gilberto
Beautifulmarira Resident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BoGA5sPRrg
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Beautifulmarira Resident: my mantra right now
Eliza Madrigal click
Wol Euler clicks
Rosatta Resident: I haven't been using one lately so a friend gave me one "Move" by MercyMe
Rosatta Resident: It is how she sees me
Rosatta Resident: I dont' have the heart to tell her I'm more like Cool Hand Luke than I am like that song
Eliza Madrigal: taking a while for things to upload for me today but I am clicking, opening and pausing to be sure to hear
Arisia Vita: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsUAiLRg9os
Eliza Madrigal: :) Rosatta
Beautifulmarira Resident: there is no such thing as happily ever after becuase nothing ever ends
Eliza Madrigal: or begins?
Beautifulmarira Resident: we are circles ever turning
Arisia Vita: The nature of our immortal lives is in the consequences of our words and deeds, that go on and are pushing themselves throughout all time. Our lives are not our own, from womb to tomb, we're bound to others, past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future. - Cloud Atlas
Wol Euler nods.
Eliza Madrigal: :))Ty Ari
Beautifulmarira Resident: ty
Eliza Madrigal: song traces..
Wol Euler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy8GXM5_NpM (warning: have kleenex ready)
Arisia Vita: ....or a friend's hand... :)
Beautifulmarira Resident: will hold till later, much to emotional right now as is
Eliza Madrigal: ((((Mari)))
Beautifulmarira Resident: ty
Rosatta Resident: Anything you can share with us, Mari?
Wol Euler smiles.
Beautifulmarira Resident: oh just the usual life sucks big time and more gets thrown at ya kinda thing
Wol Euler: (((mari)))
Rosatta Resident: Yes : (
Beautifulmarira Resident: but ya know I'm strong and I will get through
Beautifulmarira Resident: one foot in front of the other :)
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: "The world breaks everyone, and afterward, some are strong at the broken places." ~Ernest Hemingway
Rosatta Resident: It's a lot more fun to fly, though, isn't it, Mari?
Beautifulmarira Resident: yes I like that :)
Wol Euler: nice, eliza
Beautifulmarira Resident: I'm more of a deep rooted to the forest than a fly in the sky kinda person :)
Eliza Madrigal: remember when my mom would say "time heals all wounds" and I would think something along the lines of "so" ... but it does seem true that time puts many things into perspective eventually
Beautifulmarira Resident: smiles
Eliza Madrigal: and one can feel a little grateful that they can feel tender, even hurt
Wol Euler: I remember hearing that and thinking "is that supposed to be consoling?"
Eliza Madrigal: haha, yes exactly :)
Eliza Madrigal: well meaning mother advice
Beautifulmarira Resident: yes, right now wounds are too fresh but in time they will not hurt so
Wol Euler: perhaps part of what it means, when said to kids, is that time will teach you to be more patient in waiting to heal
Eliza Madrigal nods... wol... well said
Eliza Madrigal: build "character"
Wol Euler: hehehehe, another thing kids hate to hear
Wol Euler: but which is true
Eliza Madrigal: :) grown ups too
Wol Euler: yep
Beautifulmarira Resident: it seems life in general is character building every day
Wol Euler: life insists on giving us chances to practice patience, generosity and self-control
Eliza Madrigal: (amazing guitar in this song Wol)
Beautifulmarira Resident: oh yes
Rosatta Resident: Ty, Mari, for that thought. I've had to learn it requires reacting in healthy productive ways - and tha tis askill I'm still learning
Eliza Madrigal: it is the "second arrow suffering" .. like, when people are judgmental, which is harder in some cases, trying to heal
Beautifulmarira Resident: me too Rosatta me too
Beautifulmarira Resident: second arrow?
Eliza Madrigal: it comes from a story... basically it is the optional "add on" to painful things
Beautifulmarira Resident: ah ok
Rosatta Resident: I am finding PaB as healing because people her are careful to not be judgemental
Wol Euler nods.
Beautifulmarira Resident: like dwelling on things that happened and can not be changed?
Eliza Madrigal: yes.. or doing something to cover the first pain instead of being with it
Eliza Madrigal: let me see if I can find a better example..
Beautifulmarira Resident: listens
Eliza Madrigal: in the meantime here is my song offering :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_kkp9S9a3w
Beautifulmarira Resident: click
Wol Euler clicks
Beautifulmarira Resident: smiles
Wol Euler smiles.
--BELL--
Wol Euler: haven't heard this in ages :)
Eliza Madrigal: this was the first song I heard of his when I was little in the back of my mom and step father's disco van lol
Beautifulmarira Resident: :)
Wol Euler: I was eighteen :)
Wol Euler is ancient.
Eliza Madrigal: I was very little... and from then they'd stop all sounds when it came on for me
Eliza Madrigal: such innocence he has kept
Wol Euler nods and smiles
Eliza Madrigal: That 'first arrow' may be described as any event whereby I have sustained a great and grievous situation; an event that threatens to take me down or pin me to the wall of questioning my own basic goodness. The first 'hit' is painful enough but then I add the 'Second Arrow' of adding to the pain with my own self recrimination or condemnation and increase the pain tenfold. I habitually and mindlessly fortify the original pain, with an added bull's-eye that clearly marks me as basically bad...reprehensible through and through.
Eliza Madrigal: http://graciegarp.blogspot.com/2010/...ond-arrow.html
Wol Euler reads
Beautifulmarira Resident: food for thought ty
Eliza Madrigal: most welcome... helps me sometimes
Wol Euler: leads to Buddha#s statement that pain is a fact, but suffering is optional. Suffering is the second arrow.
Eliza Madrigal nods nods
Arisia Vita: the arrow of time is flying by and I need to fly with it to another meeting...it's been great being with you all..hope to see you again soon...
Eliza Madrigal: bye Ari :)
Wol Euler: bye ari, fly well
Arisia Vita: be well and happy
Beautifulmarira Resident: Bye Ari ty for everything
Wol Euler: stay blue
Arisia Vita: it was my pleasure
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Arisia Vita: the blue of a happy sky...
Arisia Vita: bye for a bit
Eliza Madrigal: I've got to take my daughter to a dance show now... to receive extra credit A in Marine Biology... @@
Beautifulmarira Resident: now has some reading homework of a sort :) I will go too and read and ponder
Eliza Madrigal: oh the games that are played ^.^
Eliza Madrigal: wish you peace Mari
Beautifulmarira Resident: ty
Wol Euler: what? dancing for marine biology? hehehehe
Eliza Madrigal: :) Wol... exactly
Rosatta Resident: Peace and blessing to you, Mari, Eliza and Wol
Wol Euler: tehy didn't call it that when I was a kid
Eliza Madrigal: hahaha
Wol Euler grins.
Beautifulmarira Resident: :)
Wol Euler: take care, be happy
Wol Euler: dance well
Eliza Madrigal: Hugs, thanks for hosting Rosatta and nice to be with you all
Beautifulmarira Resident: bye everyone and ty for everything
Wol Euler: hello korel
Rosatta Resident: Korel! Wonderful to see you
Korel Laloix: YOu can see me?
Korel Laloix: lol
Korel Laloix: I can't
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Wol Euler: you are grey but present
Rosatta Resident: Tell us what happened to you with that horrible tornado
Wol Euler: and your hair :)
--BELL--
Korel Laloix: I was personally far away from it all over at Reeba's ranch which is over on the Western Side of the state... But unfortunatly we know a few people that were really damaged by it all.
Rosatta Resident: I am soo sorry
Rosatta Resident: My daughter is just flattened by the school that got hit
Wol Euler nods.
Korel Laloix: My best friends sister lives there and her dauther was in that school and was hurt evidently.
Korel Laloix: I dont know all the details though.
Rosatta Resident: Oh, Korel, I'm so sorry
Wol Euler: wow, I'm sorry to hear that
Korel Laloix: The not knowing is sort of hard really.
Korel Laloix: And all the information comming out at first was so out of sorts that it made the stress level even worse.
Wol Euler nods.
Rosatta Resident: Yes. The media jumps on what will boost their raitings instead of what will be the most truly helpful
Wol Euler: they aren't in the business of being helpful or truthful, their business is to get the highest number of listeners for their advertisers
Korel Laloix: And one of the things we looked at in one of my pandemic classes was about how information on bad things tends to grow with double reporting and the like.
Rosatta Resident: yes
Wol Euler: yep
Korel Laloix: So when you have 3 sources of information... adn what you get is slightly different... do you interpret that as three seperate reports?.. or as three impressions of the same facts.
Korel Laloix: I guess you have to be experienced in that sort of things to know the difference.
Korel Laloix: We would love to go down there and help but eveidently they are having to turn people away.
Wol Euler nods.
Korel Laloix: I guess these times bring out the best in people.
Rosatta Resident: Mr Rogers said that when he was young and he was overwhelmed by terrible things that happened, his mother would tell him to "Look for the helpers"
Wol Euler nods.
Korel Laloix: Never watched that show.. but I know of it.
Korel Laloix: I have been in a few tornadoes, but nothing like the one that hit them.
Korel Laloix: I think they eventually called it an F5.
Wol Euler: it sounded horrible
Wol Euler: (the reports)
Korel Laloix: I can't say i would recomend the experience, but it it one that you will never forget.
--BELL--
Wol Euler: my dears, I had better be going, it's getting late
Korel Laloix: Take care.. and good night.
Wol Euler: stay healthy, and korel I hope your friend is okay
Korel Laloix: I hope to find out soon.
Rosatta Resident: Do you want company or would you like to sit in solitude?
Korel Laloix: Thank you for the concern... I am good...
Korel Laloix: Just on SL while I do some internet research for my next class.
Rosatta Resident: Ok : )
Korel Laloix: I just got home today.