The Guardian for this meeting was Xirana Oximoxi. The comments are by Xirana Oximoxi.

Catrinamonblue Resident: 's current display-name is "Catrinamonblue".
Catrinamonblue Resident: morning Korel
Korel Laloix: Heya...
Korel Laloix: What you up to today?
Catrinamonblue Resident: not much u?
Korel Laloix: Just back from running... having some breakfast...
Catrinamonblue Resident: yummy :)
Korel Laloix: I think so...
Korel Laloix: Grandma made some fresh waffels.
Catrinamonblue Resident: I had raspberry waffles this morning :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: homemade too
Korel Laloix: These are blackberry.
Korel Laloix: With real maple... lovely.
Korel Laloix: Not silly sweet either.
Korel Laloix: So makes these lovely blackberry, pecan chocolate mufins as well... wow
Catrinamonblue Resident: sounds very good :)
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Xirana Oximoxi: 's current display-name is "Xirana".
Korel Laloix: The muffin tins she has a great.. only about a half inch deep, but big space in between, so you get a huge amount of muffin top.
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Xiri
Korel Laloix: Heya
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Cat, Kori:)
Korel Laloix smiles
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Druth
druth Vlodovic: hiya
Xirana Oximoxi: how are you today?
Catrinamonblue Resident: ok
Xirana Oximoxi: druth...are you recovered?
druth Vlodovic: reasonably
Korel Laloix: Great.. had a nice long run this morning, now having some home made blackberry waffels.
Xirana Oximoxi: great:)
Korel Laloix: Reasonably sounds good.
druth Vlodovic: though the disability people are giving me another two weeks,which is a relief
druth Vlodovic: sweet, where did you get the blackberries?
Xirana Oximoxi: you mean towo weeks to stay at home?
Korel Laloix: We have a line of about 100 yards of them on one side of the property.
druth Vlodovic: four altogether, insurance companies know much more than surgeons,so it is nice to have confirmation that my doctor had it right
Xirana Oximoxi: sounds delicious Kori :)...it would be great if we could smell it here :)
Korel Laloix: Might be torture as you can't actually have some...
druth Vlodovic: ah,I remember the first time i was able to go outside and pick blueberries and put them in pancakes right away
Korel Laloix: But yes.. the house smells lovely right now.
druth Vlodovic: it is amazing the difference it makes in taste
Xirana Oximoxi: aha I see druth
Korel Laloix: These we froze from last season.
Catrinamonblue Resident: Druth made raspberry waffles the other day and froze some, that was my breakfast this morn :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: we have our own raspberry bushes and froze berries from last summer
Xirana Oximoxi: wow...you have rl meet?
druth Vlodovic: where I came from the sides of the roads were covered in raspberry bushes,and we'd make forays every summer picking them, fill half our chest freezer with margarine tubs of them
druth Vlodovic: cat and I have met a couple times in RL
Korel Laloix: Pretty much what we do as well./
Korel Laloix: And grandma makes presserves as well.
Xirana Oximoxi: ahh that's nice!! :-)
druth Vlodovic: the grubs hide in the berries, but they taste like raspberry, so it's all right
Korel Laloix: More protein that way...
Xirana Oximoxi: is the topic of the week inspiring for talking more about it?
Catrinamonblue Resident: vulnerability
druth Vlodovic: thinking of berry picking I thought we were going to talk about joy :)
Xirana Oximoxi: yes:)
druth Vlodovic: which is related to unguarded moments, so related to vulnerability I guess
Xirana Oximoxi: well...I've seen the video of Ted...and 'joy' is part of the subject aswell:)
druth Vlodovic: with effort you can draw lines between anything :)
Korel Laloix: Well, if you go berry picking while having yoru skin vulnerable to the thorns, it takes the joy out of it.
druth Vlodovic: it was when I had my most fun with my dad,who can be difficult at times
druth Vlodovic: having fun with men often means picking something else to concentrate on and just share time and common activity with them
druth Vlodovic: blackberries have the worst thorns, but is worth it :)
Korel Laloix: Very true...
Korel Laloix: I tried some black berry wine once and did not care for it though.
Xirana Oximoxi: going slowly picking then is a strategy :)
druth Vlodovic: more difficult than thorns is remembering to put every second one in the tub
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Korel Laloix: Very true...
Korel Laloix: I do pretty good about that.. after about half and hour or so.
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: me too
Korel Laloix: But blackberries are a great source of joy for sure.
Catrinamonblue Resident: so are strawberries and raspberries :)
Korel Laloix: Yes.. but I do have my prefferences.
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Eliza Madrigal: 's current display-name is "Eliza".
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Xiri, Cat, Druth, Kori
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Eliza...we are talking about blackberries, strawberries, and raspberries .)
Eliza Madrigal: yum
Xirana Oximoxi: and connecting the pain of picking blackberries to the vulnerability of our skin and to the joy to comppensate it :)
Eliza Madrigal: :) it has been too long since I picked a blackberry... scarcely remember
Korel Laloix: I love taking some good time with grandma doing that.
Xirana Oximoxi: Kori is preparing delicious waffles
Eliza Madrigal salivates
Korel Laloix: I am eating them, grandma made them.
Eliza Madrigal: I love the sound of the waffle iron closing and the sight of the batter leaking over the sides
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: there are stories of people letting down defenses while being fed, being more open to things
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
druth Vlodovic: I managed to fix a waffle iron my grandmother had
Korel Laloix: How did you do that?
druth Vlodovic: has little curly decorations engraved in it
Eliza Madrigal: that must be a nice one.. the older ones are so much better and weightier
Eliza Madrigal: aw
druth Vlodovic: actually there wasn't much wrong with it except the coating and the cord
druth Vlodovic: for the coating I just keep some olive oil in a bowl and paint it before each waffle
Korel Laloix: Grandma has this fairly ancient cast iron thing that goes on the stove top.
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: neat
Eliza Madrigal: sounds as though she makes a lovely home Korel
Korel Laloix: Yes.. shave to move, will miss this place.
Korel Laloix: THe first real home I have ever had.
Eliza Madrigal: maybe the situation there will pass and you'll be able to find a balance to visit and stay often
Korel Laloix: I hope so, and I am praying for that.. but as things are, it is the correcdt thing to do.
Eliza Madrigal nods... maybe spurring you on to a new adventure in which you make a home with what she's taught you :)
druth Vlodovic: (((Korel)))
Korel Laloix: I like that thought Eliza... imediatly took some of the edge off of it.
Korel Laloix: THank you.
Eliza Madrigal smiles, thanks
Eliza Madrigal: glad if so
Eliza Madrigal: moving isn't easy, even when it makes all the sense in the world
Korel Laloix: I have found a new place at least... so it should be a good start.
Korel Laloix: At least everything I own will fit in my car.
Korel Laloix: I just have to get a bed.
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: congratulations :) now you get to nest
Korel Laloix: Sort of looking forward to something though, being out on mhy own again.
Korel Laloix: But I know I am going to loose weight.
Korel Laloix: And the expenses are going to hurt as well.
Xirana Oximoxi: I don't know the reasons you have to move Kori, but sometimes a big change is good to bring new perspectives in our lives
Korel Laloix: I hope so.
Eliza Madrigal: I was amazed when moving from one place to another, the things that changed in daily habits just by virtue of rooms being in different spots
Korel Laloix: never thought of that.
Eliza Madrigal: have done this 3 times after extended times in one place
Eliza Madrigal: sometimes it is just a matter of sunlight coming more into a different room than before
Catrinamonblue Resident: moved a lot as a kid :) where I am now is the longest I have ever stayed in one house I kinda miss the thrill of discovering a new house
Catrinamonblue Resident: finding the character of a place
Eliza Madrigal: mmm
Korel Laloix: Except for a short time in shelters, this will be the third place I have lived.
Xirana Oximoxi: it depends a little if you move from a modern appartment to another... or from a place that has more personalitly, for exemple in a small village or so
Korel Laloix: It does sort of push a new phase to life.
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: sometimes a mew phase in life comes without changing the place
Xirana Oximoxi: new
Korel Laloix: That is very true.
Eliza Madrigal: indeed
Eliza Madrigal: we're selling the house now actually, and I've been sort of hyper aware of what I'll miss - it is a process
Korel Laloix: Can't imagine moving when you have a whole family to work around.
Korel Laloix: When I was in ROTC, one of the instructors talked about how they move about every three years.. with all of their kids and pets.. can't imagein that.
Xirana Oximoxi: I'm not changin place , but feel like changing a lot of things in my life.... sometimes confusing feeling, but also seen as a new way to discover
Eliza Madrigal: opportunity
Eliza Madrigal: agreed Korel, sounds very difficult
Korel Laloix: I do love to try new things.
Korel Laloix: But I am very much a habit person as well.
Korel Laloix: Not sure how I balance that.
Eliza Madrigal: complexity
Eliza Madrigal: so you are moving the metaphorical furniture around Xiri?
Xirana Oximoxi: hehe yes:))
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Korel Laloix: Sometimes just findinga new way of thinking gives you permission to try new things.
Korel Laloix: Or get something done.
Catrinamonblue Resident: sometimes the metaphorical furniture gets moved without you knowing and you have to learn to navigate the new place
Eliza Madrigal: especially the new design doesn't make sense to you at first
Eliza Madrigal: *if
Korel Laloix: Which can be painful or fun or both.
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes
--BELL--
Xirana Oximoxi: yes....and sometimes you notice that the metaphorical furniture is moving...but takes time to detach and float your own new way :))
Korel Laloix: Starting to get chilled, going to go shower from my run.... might be back in a few. Thanks for the chat all.
Catrinamonblue Resident: bye Korel
Korel Laloix: ciao
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye Korel! have a nice shower:)
Eliza Madrigal: "detach and float" - I love that
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes I was thinking on that too
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...me too:)
Xirana Oximoxi: a kind of sensation of being free
Eliza Madrigal: hovering over all the possibilities before deciding where to land
Catrinamonblue Resident: or just holding to see where the new design takes you
Catrinamonblue Resident: sometimes decisions are not yours to make
Xirana Oximoxi: well...I think a lot of times life decides... you move and you arrive at places and then you stay for X time...
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
druth Vlodovic sneaking off...
Eliza Madrigal: bye Druth, pretty dress
Catrinamonblue Resident: bye Druth
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye druth, have a nice day
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...very nice dress:)
Eliza Madrigal: there does seem to be some dance there or negotiation... life deciding, we deciding, various allowings for input :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...I agree....there's also our 'choices'
Eliza Madrigal: and the hm 'if you build it..." idea, though in the film he was advised to build it.. wasn't an ego thing
Eliza Madrigal: "Field of Dreams" (if haven't seen)
Catrinamonblue Resident: going to go guys
Xirana Oximoxi: ahh thank you, I have not seen it
Catrinamonblue Resident: .talk to you later
Eliza Madrigal: bye Catrina
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye Cat
Eliza Madrigal: it looks like a "baseball" film but really isn't
Xirana Oximoxi: hi Aph!
Eliza Madrigal: Hey Aph :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi
Xirana Oximoxi: today we've been jumping about different topics...from strawberries...to changind ways in life
Aphrodite Macbain: both sound nice
Aphrodite Macbain: I wish I could change my life
Eliza Madrigal: do you ever choose to find something really out of character to try?
Aphrodite Macbain: we re so stuck in our old needs and patterns
Aphrodite Macbain: I would like to go back to work
Eliza Madrigal ponders "old needs"
Xirana Oximoxi: In my view, it's very difficult to change all 'aspects' of one's life...but sometimes we can change important ones...
Xirana Oximoxi: out of character= crazy?
Eliza Madrigal: I agree Xiri
Eliza Madrigal: lol...
Eliza Madrigal: well lately I've been listening to some country music, lol.. really out of my comfort zone
Aphrodite Macbain: I would like to change some of my old fears or attitudes
Aphrodite Macbain: grins, mine too
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: but sometimes when we feel an aversion to something, there is an opportunity there maybe, for growth
Aphrodite Macbain: all that cheatin' and hurtin'
Eliza Madrigal: but lots of stories too, simple melodic stories and textures that aren't so scrubbed up
Aphrodite Macbain: yes- or at least consider why you aare adverse to it
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Aphrodite Macbain: I guess I''' dont like to be reminded of cheatin' and hurtin'
Eliza Madrigal nods... what I questioned was writing off an whole category
Xirana Oximoxi: the video about vulnerability talks about our fears' ... and they see it as a 'source of creativity and joy and other positive feelings...
Eliza Madrigal: oh, true Xiri, it does connect
Aphrodite Macbain: I have been considering going somewhere in the world to volunteer with some project
Aphrodite Macbain: get way out of my comfort zone
Aphrodite Macbain: in terms of physical needs
Eliza Madrigal: love that Aph, would love to entertain such an idea but it isn't my phase of life
Aphrodite Macbain: and cultural norms
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Aphrodite Macbain: yes- it would be too stressful
Xirana Oximoxi: sometimes is not necessary to move far from where we live to do that.... in the near there are also projects to colaborate that may be easier to participate
Aphrodite Macbain: true
Xirana Oximoxi: at least here where I live..I don't know in other parts of the worlld
Aphrodite Macbain: Nods, yes. I agree. But right no I need to do something very different - and put myslef in a place to learn as well
Eliza Madrigal: sometimes just one new friend can change one's whole outlook and life
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...you're right Eliza
Xirana Oximoxi: and I understand Aph....big changes can help us appreciate more everything
Eliza Madrigal: do you feel you change and bring that change back with you when you travel Aph?
Aphrodite Macbain: yes, I think so
Aphrodite Macbain: subtle perhaps
Xirana Oximoxi: I will go now....have a nice day Aph and Eliza:) thanks for the nice chat :)
Aphrodite Macbain: a slightly new outlook on things
Eliza Madrigal: I do but it is usually not about the place but people I am with
Xirana Oximoxi: and see you soon!
Eliza Madrigal: thank you for lovely hosting Xiri :)
Eliza Madrigal: see you soon
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye
Aphrodite Macbain: by Xirana
Eliza Madrigal: though people and places have a way of getting into each other
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: I think I need something that takes over body and mind,
Eliza Madrigal: complete immersion
Aphrodite Macbain: preferably getting out of mind and hanging out in body a bit more often
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm spending more time at the Y these days
Eliza Madrigal: where nobody knows you?
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, that's good
Aphrodite Macbain: where I can focus on my body
Aphrodite Macbain: exhaust myself
Eliza Madrigal: body is my weak link but I've been trying to shift that too.. went back to yoga... hah, funny story there
Aphrodite Macbain: yes?
Eliza Madrigal: I used to attend a wonderful yoga class with a 86 yo woman who is just amazing
Eliza Madrigal: but I had an injury and stepped back, also because there was a helper there sometimes who pushed me too far
Eliza Madrigal: and didn't seem to hear me when I talked about illnes history or injury...
Eliza Madrigal: so I found a new group/class....
Eliza Madrigal: and guess who the teacher is
Eliza Madrigal: the helper!
Eliza Madrigal: lolllol
Aphrodite Macbain: oh no!
Eliza Madrigal: so I sort of ran away from her and she came back
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Aphrodite Macbain: there's a metaphor there somewhere
Eliza Madrigal: we must be destined for each other
Eliza Madrigal: and yes... there is...
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: well, dont push yourself
Aphrodite Macbain: that is anti-yga
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eliza Madrigal: she and I need to learn to communicate with one another
Aphrodite Macbain: perhaps. but dont give up yoga because of her
Eliza Madrigal: I won't... but I will learn to speak up more
Eliza Madrigal: and also let her push me
--BELL--
Aphrodite Macbain: yes- trust your body
Aphrodite Macbain: what is the subject?
Eliza Madrigal: subject?
Aphrodite Macbain: sorry- wrong box.
Eliza Madrigal: ah, going to Pam's?
Aphrodite Macbain: druth decided to put his head in
Aphrodite Macbain: yes Pma's
Eliza Madrigal: I was going to go for a bit too, might as well
Eliza Madrigal: guess the reason I told you the story is that sometimes no matter where we go or if we go we have to face the same thing
Eliza Madrigal: I know you know that
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm afraid I do!
Eliza Madrigal: Hey Kori, we're off to Pam's talk... want to come?
Korel Laloix: Just in time... smiles
Eliza Madrigal: :) I'll give a tp if you want
Korel Laloix: Ciao all.
Korel Laloix: Sure... about what?
Aphrodite Macbain: going to Pam's lecture
Korel Laloix: What is the topic?
Korel Laloix: If it is a lecture, I might pass though... smiles.. have enough of that at school.
Aphrodite Macbain: sex and love I think
Korel Laloix: Where at?
Aphrodite Macbain: um
Aphrodite Macbain: the Think Tank place
Korel Laloix: No idea bout that one.. might pass then.
Korel Laloix: THanks though.