2008.11.14 19:00 - Raining birthday boys

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    This session was recovered from the autologging test database. Adelene was guardian. Wol suggested the title.


    Adelene Dawner: Hullo :) 

    Gaya Ethaniel: Hey Adele ^^ 

    Gaya Ethaniel: Rehi Hana ^^ 

    Hana Hendrassen: Rehi? 

    Gaya Ethaniel: meet Adele. Adele this is one of my sisters at Blue Lotus ^^ 

    Hana Hendrassen: Nice to meet you Adelene :) 

    Adelene Dawner: Ah. ^.^ Welcome. 

    Gaya Ethaniel: (Rehi = hello again) 

    Hana Hendrassen: thank you 

    Hana Hendrassen: ah I see 

    Gaya Ethaniel: It's quiet tonight... Friday nights usually this quiet Adele? 

    Adelene Dawner: Not usually, but sometimes. Last week was quiet, too. 

    Gaya Ethaniel: ah ok 

    Hana Hendrassen: it's pretty here... I love the climbing wisteria 

    Adelene Dawner: Hi Pem :) 

    Gaya Ethaniel: do you mind trying that basket for me Adele? 

    Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_ 

    Pema Pera: Jo everybody! 

    Hana Hendrassen bows her head in respect 

    Adelene Dawner chuckles. 

    Gaya Ethaniel: should be another pose... 

    Adelene Dawner: /ao off 

    Pema Pera: i mean "hi" -- right hand offset on key board :) 

    Hana Hendrassen giggles 

    Gaya Ethaniel: mm... need to get fixed that 

    Pema Pera: wow, what do we have there? a play pen? 

    Adelene Dawner: /ao on 

    Hana Hendrassen: ah Wizz's basket not working properly? 

    Gaya Ethaniel: ty Adele... 

    Gaya Ethaniel: yes I need to get Carlberg-sama on this 

    Gaya Ethaniel: ah it's a basket I'm trying to install for Adele at my place Pema 

    Pema Pera puzzled . . . . 

    Adelene Dawner: ^.^ 

    Pema Pera: Hi Hana, nice to meet you! 

    Hana Hendrassen bows her head respectfully with a smile "Nice to meet you too Pema" 

    Pema Pera: ah, you are maiko? 

    Hana Hendrassen: no not yet ^_^ 

    Pema Pera: (only maiko show respect to me in SL, it seems . . . ) 

    Hana Hendrassen: Gaya and I are both minarai 

    Hana Hendrassen giggles 

    Gaya Ethaniel bows with respect 

    Pema Pera: hahaha, wow! 

    Pema Pera: very impressed 

    Pema Pera: I mean: 

    Gaya Ethaniel: ^^ 

    Adelene Dawner guffaws. "Got a problem with that, Pem?" 

    Pema Pera bows his head in respect 

    Pema Pera will behave properly (at least today) 

    Hana Hendrassen chuckles 

    Adelene Dawner is still typing slowly... new computer... 

    Hana Hendrassen: ah gotta love that 

    Adelene Dawner: Hi Steve :_ 

    Gaya Ethaniel: ah ^^ 

    Adelene Dawner: :) 

    Pema Pera: breaking in the new computer, Ade? 

    Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_ 

    Pema Pera: Hi Steve! 

    Adelene Dawner: mmhmm ^.^ 

    stevenaia Michinaga: hello 

    Hana Hendrassen waves cheerily 

    Gaya Ethaniel smiles 

    Hana Hendrassen: wow didn't know my facelight was so bright... *blushes* 

    Pema Pera: Hana, where you are minarai, is that in a Japanese sim? Not in Theodote's place, I guess? 

    Hana Hendrassen: no, though I know of her okiya. I'm at Blue Lotus under Mikido Yoshikawa 

    Pema Pera: ah! 

    Pema Pera: how nice that there are several houses here in SL 

    Gaya Ethaniel has forgot to mention Hana about recording for wiki 

    Pema Pera: do they sometimes have shared parties? 

    Hana Hendrassen: recording for wiki? 

    Pema Pera: HI Hobbes! 

    Hobbes Mortenwold: hello 

    Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_ 

    Hobbes Mortenwold: sorry... my first visit here 

    Hana Hendrassen: actually funny enough we just had our geisha community week this past week 

    Pema Pera: Ah, born today, Hobbes, welcome! 

    Hobbes Mortenwold: indeed 

    Hana Hendrassen: so that allowed several places to do performances together 

    Pema Pera: please sit down 

    Hobbes Mortenwold: fresh from the womb... 

    Gaya Ethaniel: we post logs on our blog/website. do you mind us recording your name and comments Hana? 

    Pema Pera: right click on a cushion and choose "sit" from the pie diagram 

    Hana Hendrassen: ah, no that's fine 

    Gaya Ethaniel smiles ty 

    Pema Pera: that is funny, Hana, I had no idea! 

    Hana Hendrassen: aw, well the next one is in a couple months, maybe you'll be able to see that one :) 

    Pema Pera: Hobbes, we get together here a few times a day, to talk about reality and whatever strikes our fancy 

    Pema Pera: We have a wiki on http://playasbeing.wik.is/ 

    Pema Pera: which also serves as a kind of blog 

    Pema Pera: we record our conversations there 

    Hana Hendrassen takes a look 

    Pema Pera: do you mind being included there? 

    Hana Hendrassen: not at all 

    Pema Pera: (we just want to make sure not to invide someone's SL privacy) 

    Hobbes Mortenwold: sure... 

    Pema Pera: thanks, Hobbes and Hana! 

    Hobbes Mortenwold: what is SL privacy 

    Hobbes Mortenwold: sim life 

    Pema Pera: oh, not everybody likes to have their avatar talks on the web :) 

    Pema Pera: but most don't mind 

    Pema Pera: btw, is Hobbes as in the philosopher or as in the comic strip, if I may ask? 

    Pema Pera: Calvin and Hobbes? 

    Gaya Ethaniel: brb 

    Hobbes Mortenwold: philosopher 

    Pema Pera: ! 

    Pema Pera: well, you're in the right place then 

    Adelene Dawner: (Just FYI, my brain is not liking the process of trying to follow the conversation. I'll stay to log of course, but I'm functionally not here.) 

    Hobbes Mortenwold: dim view of man and humanity 

    Pema Pera: (but would be also for Calvin & Hobbes :) 

    Pema Pera: but also interesting angles . . . . 

    Hobbes Mortenwold: watterson had (has) a brilliant comic voice 

    Pema Pera: sorry, who is Watterson? 

    Hobbes Mortenwold: bill watterson... creator of calvin/hobbes 

    Pema Pera: ah! sorry, never looked at the name :) 

    Pema Pera: as for Hobbes, it is fascinating that his social contract idea stemmed from a purely mechanistic world view . . .. 

    Pema Pera: and here in PaB we are exploring other world views 

    Pema Pera: so nice and interesting contrasts 

    stevenaia Michinaga: I better read up on my comic strips 

    Hobbes Mortenwold: nice way of putting it 

    Pema Pera: the other day I commented on the difference between Aristotle, where the world is alife with goals, and a mechanistic view where the world is dead by default, with life a hard-to-get complex afair . . . . 

    Gaya Ethaniel: back 

    Pema Pera: wb :) 

    Hana Hendrassen: wb Gaya-chan 

    Gaya Ethaniel: ty ^^ 

    Pema Pera admiring how well Hana-chan seems to be trained already . . . 

    Hana Hendrassen giggles 

    Pema Pera: Hobbes, Hana and Gaya are in training for being in training for being geisha, if I got all that correctly 

    Hana Hendrassen laughs 

    Hana Hendrassen: just one in training :) 

    Hobbes Mortenwold: amazing 

    Pema Pera: :) 

    Hana Hendrassen: second rank, one below maiko 

    Pema Pera: a lovely social contract! 

    Pema Pera: (non-mechanistic) 

    Pema Pera: actually, Hobbes, I'm fascinated with the way in which Hobbes in some sense foreshadowed Darwin, though I haven't seen people commenting on that, have you? 

    Pema Pera: the sheer competition in what was for him the "natural state" 

    Pema Pera: (btw, Hana, do you have to train to become minarai??) 

    Hobbes Mortenwold: I must admit, I was "lured" here to better understand the RW-VW transference 

    Pema Pera: that's one of our interests, in fact, Hobbes 

    Hana Hendrassen: well there's one rank below minarai which you have to finish first... 

    Pema Pera: the shift in and out of SL, it has many elements in paralellel with waking up from dreams and going into and out of falling into a movie 

    Pema Pera: ah, wow, I had no idea, Hana! 

    Pema Pera: What is that called? 

    Hana Hendrassen: shikomi 

    Pema Pera: ! 

    Pema Pera: minarai presumably means "becoming seen" or such? 

    Hana Hendrassen: I believe it means "watch and learn" 

    Pema Pera: ah! that makes sense. mi means seen, and narau can be learn yes. 

    Hana Hendrassen smiles "So you know Japanese!" 

    Pema Pera: yes, more or less :) 

    Hana Hendrassen: very impressive :) 

    Gaya Ethaniel smiles 

    Pema Pera: persistence, mostly :) 

    Hana Hendrassen: sometime I'd like to learn to speak it beyond basic keigo 

    Pema Pera: what is your interested in the SL-RL relationship, Hobbes (RL is Real World; SL = Second Life, jargon here) 

    Pema Pera: ah, you have learned some, already, Hana? 

    Pema Pera: (polite you are, yes :) 

    Pema Pera: keigo = polite speech 

    Hana Hendrassen: yes, some 

    Pema Pera: for example? 

    Gaya Ethaniel: (with Kyoto dialect right? ^^) 

    Pema Pera: hehehe, that would be great! 

    Pema Pera: honma ni! 

    Hana Hendrassen smiles at Gaya-chan... "Ookinii arigatou-san doshita" 

    Pema Pera: (really, in Kyoto dialect) 

    Pema Pera: yes, perfect Kyoto-ben 

    Pema Pera is very impressed 

    Pema Pera: have you bee in Kyoto? 

    Hana Hendrassen: alas, no 

    Hana Hendrassen: it's a dream of mine 

    Pema Pera: let me know when you come there! I'm in Kyoto at least twice a year, my wife (who is Japanese) and I have a second house there 

    Pema Pera: Sorry, Hobbes, didn't want to stop you :-) 

    Hana Hendrassen: ah thank you :) 

    Hobbes Mortenwold: it just strikes me that people do/say things in the virtual that exceed their RW moral bounds 

    Pema Pera is too talkative tonite . . . . 

    Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_ 

    Hobbes Mortenwold: no need to apologize 

    Pema Pera: any bonds it seems . . . . 

    Pema Pera: great way to explore new identities 

    Hobbes Mortenwold: exactly 

    Pema Pera: how do people react to me if I show a different gender, or a different race? Great way to learn a lot about identities! 

    Dharma Voyager: greetings 

    Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_ 

    Pema Pera: DHARMA ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! 

    Dharma Voyager: hey there Pema! 

    Dharma Voyager: long time no see 

    Pema Pera: How nice to see you here !!!!! 

    Pema Pera: yeah, far too long 

    Pema Pera: I keep thinking, I ought to get over to your readings . . . . 

    Pema Pera lowers his head in shame .. . . . 

    Dharma Voyager: I don't mean to interrupt, stevie was kind enough to invite 

    Pema Pera: you never interrupt, Dharma! 

    Dharma Voyager: oh .. the nice thing about a blog is they are there to read when ever 

    Dharma Voyager: heheheh 

    Pema Pera: haha, yes 

    stevenaia Michinaga: you don;t need my invite to come...smile 

    Dharma Voyager: oh you know me... I'm generally a home body, need someone to nudgeme from my cave :) 

    Pema Pera: thanks for all your notes, and continuing your group -- how is it going? 

    Pema Pera: I very much enjoyed the few times I managed to get over 

    Dharma Voyager: smiles... you are always a wonderful addition 

    Pema Pera blushes 

    Pema Pera whispers "hi Corvi, sorry, hadn't seen you yet" 

    Dharma Voyager: I think it is going as it is going... I think we have formed a sangha and are growing with each other 

    Dharma Voyager: it has been a great expreeience for me 

    stevenaia Michinaga: sangha? 

    Pema Pera: wonderful! Still reading the same book, or switching? 

    Dharma Voyager: all was something different... almost each person has selected which is nice... each seems to choose based on where they are 

    Dharma Voyager: lovely wreally 

    Dharma Voyager: it has been interesting to share 

    Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_ 

    Solobill Laville: (Hi, all) 

    Pema Pera: Hi Solo! 

    Dharma Voyager: Sangha is kind of like a community in the Dharma 

    stevenaia Michinaga: thx 

    Dharma Voyager: smiles 

    Hana Hendrassen: thanks Pema :) 

    Pema Pera: yw :) 

    Pema Pera: or "in your shadow" in Japanese, okagesama de 

    Hana Hendrassen smiles 

    Pema Pera: hi 111 ! 

    Pema Pera: please join us 

    111 Parx: hi 

    Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_ 

    Pema Pera: ah, born today, welcome! 

    111 Parx: yah 

    stevenaia Michinaga: you know Pema, the next sim to the south is a welcome area 

    Pema Pera: right click on a cushion and choose "sit" 

    Pema Pera: I know, Steve 

    Hana Hendrassen: wow, welcome 111 :) 

    Pema Pera: that was one reason to choose this place here! 

    Dharma Voyager: happy b-day! 

    111 Parx: tahnk 

    Pema Pera: happy zeroth! 

    Pema Pera: we get together here a few times a day, to chat 

    stevenaia Michinaga: hellow Rowan 

    Pema Pera: about the nature of reality and whatever comes up 

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi Rowan.. 

    Pema Pera: hi Rowan! 

    Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_ 

    Rowan Masala: hi all :) 

    111 Parx: hi 

    Pema Pera: http://playasbeing.wik.is/ is our wiki, if you are interested, 111 

    Pema Pera: we record our conversations, for our blog there -- do you mind to have your words included there too? 

    Pema Pera: Hi Cyberdemon! 

    111 Parx: no 

    Pema Pera: join the crowd! 

    CyberDemon Constantine: hey how is it going 

    Pema Pera: thanks, 111 ! 

    stevenaia Michinaga: is it raining birthday boys? 

    111 Parx: well came 

    Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_ 

    Pema Pera: ah, born yesterday, Cyber, happy first birth-day! 

    Pema Pera: You're a lot older than 111, who was born today 

    CyberDemon Constantine: what 

    Hana Hendrassen smiles "Happy birthday to alllll" 

    Gaya Ethaniel: ^_^ 

    stevenaia Michinaga: my 2nd's comming up soon 

    Pema Pera: (appearance in SL is "being born here" as an avatar) 

    CyberDemon Constantine: what do you guys do here? 

    Pema Pera: http://playasbeing.wik.is/ is our wiki 

    stevenaia Michinaga: looking for notecard 

    Pema Pera: we talk about the nature of reality, but in a playful and informal way 

    111 Parx: plz 

    111 Parx: i wan t to ask 

    Pema Pera: we also have a blog with our conversations -- do you mind if we include our discussions here too? 

    CyberDemon Constantine: can you give me an example 

    Pema Pera: sure 

    Pema Pera: every 15 minutes we stop for 9 seconds 

    Pema Pera: to drop what we have in order to see more of what we are 

    Pema Pera: in RL, that is 

    Pema Pera: and here we talk about what we find 

    Pema Pera: very simple kind of exploration 

    Pema Pera: the wiki will give a lot of background 

    Pema Pera: we gather here four times a day, every six hours 

    CyberDemon Constantine: everyday? 

    Pema Pera: yup :) 

    Pema Pera: we have a group of about forty people 

    Pema Pera: so each time there are at least a few 

    CyberDemon Constantine: you guys don't work or go to school? 

    Pema Pera: hehe, we do 

    Rowan Masala laughs 

    111 Parx: ok so now what 

    Gaya Ethaniel: or don't sleep...? 4 am here 

    Solobill Laville: Ha! 

    Rowan Masala: we're not all here all the time 

    Hana Hendrassen smiles 

    111 Parx: where is a live 

    Hana Hendrassen: oh dear Gaya, are you gonna make it? :P 

    Gaya Ethaniel: ^^ 

    111 Parx: yah 

    Gaya Ethaniel: if this is not my life... then I don't have one :P 

    Pema Pera: we live in different time zones, so that makes it possible to be here four times a day 

    Rowan Masala: Although Pema is often here in the middle of his night 

    CyberDemon Constantine: that is a lot of commitment 

    Pema Pera: US, Europe, Japan, Australia, etc 

    Pema Pera: well, we enjoy both the company and the explorations 

    111 Parx: ohhhhhhh 

    CyberDemon Constantine: do you guys know each other personally 

    Pema Pera: some of us do 

    stevenaia Michinaga: always something to talk about 

    111 Parx: no 

    Hana Hendrassen: I just met all these people except Gaya ^_^ 

    Pema Pera: a month ago we had 13 of us gathering in Princeton, at my work place 

    Pema Pera: in RL that is 

    CyberDemon Constantine: that is cool 

    stevenaia Michinaga: no Princeton NJ presence in SL yet? 

    Pema Pera: http://playasbeing.wik.is/PaB_Events...nesis_Zhangsun 

    Pema Pera: yes, but a bit of a ghost town . . . . 

    Pema Pera: the University built a campus 

    Rowan Masala: actually, Princeton has a campus with some really nice art exhibits 

    Rowan Masala: Dynafleur 

    Pema Pera: but that's a bad idea -- better to start with people, bottom up 

    111 Parx: ok plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz what now 

    Pema Pera: the place is pretty, but no people . . . 

    Rowan Masala: and I think they're giving space to... oh, one of the NPIRL artists, can't remember who 

    CyberDemon Constantine: any of you guys artists 

    Hana Hendrassen raises a hand 

    111 Parx: so what now 

    Rowan Masala: many in the group are artistic :) 

    CyberDemon Constantine: what kind of art you guys do 

    111 Parx: peam 

    Pema Pera: ? 111 ? 

    111 Parx: what now 

    Pema Pera: what now what? 

    111 Parx: so where is a live 

    stevenaia Michinaga: some write, some draw, some build, it;s all art 

    Rowan Masala: I mostly photograph other people's SL art :) 

    Pema Pera: life is everywhere, 111 

    Gaya Ethaniel smiles 

    Solobill Laville makes a kung fu move 

    111 Parx: ok i looking for action 

    Gaya Ethaniel giggles 

    111 Parx: how can i take mony 

    Solobill Laville: make money? 

    111 Parx: how 

    Gaya Ethaniel: wb Hana-chan 

    Hana Hendrassen: thanks... somehow I logged back on and was at the okiya... :s 

    Solobill Laville: Dunno, 111 

    Pema Pera: it's getting a bit late, time for me to dream about making money :) 

    Gaya Ethaniel: I gave you some notecards about getting a job in SL 111 

    Pema Pera: nice seeing you all ! 

    Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_ 

    Solobill Laville: hehe, me too 

    Rowan Masala: 111, I'm giving you a guide to making money in SL 

    stevenaia Michinaga: night all 

    Rowan Masala: don't decline it when I send it 

    111 Parx: ok thank 

    Pema Pera: see you all soon again 

    Rowan Masala: I haven't read it, but maybe there's something there 

    Solobill Laville: night, Pema 

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye! 

    Hana Hendrassen: goodnight 

    Solobill Laville: I too shall take my leave 

    Solobill Laville: Night, all :) 

    Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_ 

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Bye, Bill! 

    111 Parx: gaya 

    Hana Hendrassen: goodnight 

    111 Parx: gaya 

    Gaya Ethaniel: yes 111? 

    111 Parx: what now 

    Rowan Masala: and a very handsome hairy black ball too, Faenik 

    111 Parx: i fell fed up 

    Dharma Voyager: I'm headed home... if anyone wants to visit IM me :) 

    stevenaia Michinaga: we weet again at 1:00 am 

    stevenaia Michinaga: well someone will be here 

    Hana Hendrassen: wow goodness... 

    stevenaia Michinaga: I'll be asleep 

    Dharma Voyager: thanks for the invite... as usually the group was very enjoyable 

    Gaya Ethaniel: enjoy your evening all 

    Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_ 

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: by, Steve! 

    Hana Hendrassen: have a good night all *waves* 

    111 Parx: ok bay 

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye Hana! 

    Rowan Masala blows a kiss to Ade and Corvi 

    Rowan Masala: bye all 

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Bye 

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye gaya 

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: hello, Gaya 

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: 111  

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