2008.11.16 07:00 - We Wear Skins in Both

Adams Rubble was the moderator and provided the comments

This was a session with three parts. Geo and I discussed the weather and then the 
9 seconds, joined by Gaya. Then a newcomer came and attention turned to his new 
website he is creating with friends. Finally, newcomers seemed to be arriving as  
fast as I could give them a brief introduction

Adams Rubble: Hello Geo :)
Geo Netizen: Good morning Adams
Adams Rubble: How are you today?
Geo Netizen: I’m good, another little dusting of snow here though
Adams Rubble: Winter is coming
Geo Netizen: Definitely …. how are you doing?
Adams Rubble: I am well, thank you. The sun is shining here with a bit of wind as a cold front is moving in
Geo Netizen nods
Geo Netizen: We have had snow on the ground for two week now ….
Adams Rubble: Wow. winter has come
Geo Netizen: :)
Adams Rubble: Not good bicycle riding weather :)
Geo Netizen: No … haven’t seen a bike in weeks ….
Adams Rubble: Do you have anything you would like to talk about?
Geo Netizen: Pretty soon there’ll be snow mobiles out
Adams Rubble: :)
Geo Netizen: Actually no …. nothing in particular
Geo Netizen: How about you Adams?
Adams Rubble: Are you doing the nine-second stops?
Geo Netizen: Ahhh …. we can talk about that …
Adams Rubble: I have a couple of threads going on in myself right now :)
Geo Netizen: My experience is that, if you work with other people on a regular basis …
Geo Netizen nods
Adams Rubble waiting to see what follows
Geo Netizen: And every 15 minutes you ‘space out’ for 9 seconds ….
Adams Rubble thinks she sees where this is going
Geo Netizen: They don’t understand …
Adams Rubble: yes
Adams Rubble: I work mostly alone (with many interruptions)
Geo Netizen: So …. I’ve tried to be more regulars with my less frequent but longer times
Adams Rubble: I have been noticing that I get some mental energy when I stop regularly while working
Geo Netizen: It gives me more flexibility and less quizzical looks
Adams Rubble: yes
Geo Netizen: Yes .... I agree .... the time to 'recenter' as I think of it is ...
Geo Netizen: o ... reenergizing
Adams Rubble: Yesterday I was thinking that the 9 seconds stops where kind of a bridge between what I have been learning and what I am living
Adams Rubble: I am less certain of that today

Gaya arrived

Adams Rubble: Hello Gaya :)
Geo Netizen: Good morning Gaya
Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_
Geo Netizen: Can you say more about how it might be bridging Admas?
Adams Rubble: Gaya, we were just talking about the 9-second stops and I was saying I was less certain about the bridge stuff I was talking about yesterday morning
Adams Rubble: Well, Geo...
Gaya Ethaniel remembers... and the Adams' blog entry
Adams Rubble: I had noticed the energy...
Adams Rubble: and also noticed that it helped me remember that...
Adams Rubble: what I am often seeing while going about my business is not necessarily reality
Geo Netizen nods
Adams Rubble: So in that sense it is a bridge I guess
Adams Rubble: It makes me see the goals of what I am doing more clearly as a side effect
Adams Rubble: Not for me but how what I am doing is affecting others
Adams Rubble: Keeps me from wasting energy on things less important
Geo Netizen: Are you suggesting the appearance in FL may have any more solid basis in reality that appearance in SL?
Geo Netizen: -not have-
Geo Netizen: And when you say affecting others … I think –relationships-
Adams Rubble: First question, in short, yes, not suggesting but parroting
Adams Rubble: :)
Faenik: indeed?
Adams Rubble: The second question....
Adams Rubble: Not relationships but we are hired to do tasks that affect others
Adams Rubble: If we remember what we are supposed to be doing, we work more effectively
Geo Netizen nods
Geo Netizen: I am seeing many of the things …
Gaya Ethaniel ponders... 'what we are supposed to be doing.'
Geo Netizen: the experience in SL has highlighted the fact that we all …
Geo Netizen: put on many –skins- in FL, just SL :)
Adams Rubble nods
Geo Netizen: -not just-
Gaya Ethaniel: You mean what you want from life Adams as you mentioned previously?
Geo Netizen needs more coffee - brb
Adams Rubble: In this case, gaya, is more basic to the tasks I am performing at work
Gaya Ethaniel: ah... ok
Geo Netizen: :)
Geo Netizen: SL is imbedded in FL …. is FL the ultimate reality?
Adams Rubble hopes so
Adams Rubble missed the ultimate
Gaya Ethaniel likes both SL and FL ^^
Adams Rubble: more real than SL, one would hope
Adams Rubble: yes Gaya :)
Adams Rubble: Part of me is able to be more free in SL :)
Geo Netizen: But we effect real people in both
Adams Rubble: Yes, definitely Geo :)
Geo Netizen: and we wear skins in both
Adams Rubble: yes, we do

A newcomer, Soleil8, joins the group

Geo Netizen: so fundamentally …. what is the difference?
Adams Rubble: harder to change in RL
Geo Netizen: Yes ... harder in RL but I like TP in SL
Adams Rubble: Hello Soleil8
Faenik: could be
Soleil8 Andel: 000000000SALUT
Soleil8's translator: 000000000SALUT
Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_
Adams Rubble: Yes, RL is sooo primitive
Soleil8 Andel: bonjour
Soleil8's translator: hello
Soleil8 Andel: cool ici
Geo Netizen: Good morning Soleil
Soleil8's translator: cool here
Adams Rubble: bonjour
Soleil8 Andel: bonne energie ici
Soleil8's translator: good energy here
Gaya Ethaniel: ^__^ ty
Adams Rubble: We hope so
Adams Rubble: We are a group which explores the reality in which we are living
Adams Rubble: let me give you a card
Soleil8 Andel: super
Soleil8's translator: great
Geo Netizen: to continue then ...
Soleil8 Andel: oui
Soleil8's translator: yes
Geo Netizen: Each has its advantage …. easy global linkage in SL ….. touch in FL …
Adams Rubble: yes, touching is nice
Soleil8 Andel: je travail aussi a me développer interieurement
Soleil8's translator: I am working as a domestic development
Soleil8 Andel accepted your inventory offer.
Geo Netizen nods at Soleil
Soleil8 Andel: merci
Soleil8's translator: thank you
Adams Rubble: Can you say more about developper interieurement :)
Soleil8 Andel: oui
Soleil8's translator: yes
Soleil8 Andel: je suis vegetarien
Soleil8's translator: I am a vegetarian

Riddle then appeared and brightened our day

Soleil8 Andel: je vie en communauté
Soleil8's translator: I live in community
Adams Rubble: Hello Riddle :)
Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_
Soleil8 Andel: en espagne
Soleil8's translator: in spain
Geo Netizen: Good morning Riddle
Soleil8 Andel: je travail la meditation
Soleil8's translator: I work the meditation
Adams Rubble: Ah, thank you Soleil8
Adams Rubble: We do a kind of meditation here
Soleil8 Andel: oui
Soleil8's translator: yes
Riddle Sideways: good morning all
Adams Rubble: we stop every 15 minutes and meditate for 9 seconds
Soleil8 Andel: je travail a me reconnecter
Soleil8's translator: I work myself
Soleil8 Andel: avec mes mes guides supérieurs
Soleil8's translator: with my guides my superiors
Soleil8 Andel: je fais du tantrisme
Soleil8's translator: I am of Tantra
Geo Netizen nodes Ahh
Adams Rubble: Oh yes, a Buddhist then :)
Soleil8 Andel: j'ai vécus des illuminations intérieurs
Soleil8's translator: I have experienced domestic Illuminations
Soleil8 Andel: non
Soleil8's translator: no
Soleil8 Andel: je ne fais pas partie d'une religion
Soleil8's translator: I do not belong to a religion
Adams Rubble nods
Adams Rubble: We are very glad that you came
Soleil8 Andel: je cherche le contact directe
Soleil8's translator: I seek direct contact
Soleil8 Andel: et sa marche
Soleil8's translator: and walking
Soleil8 Andel: hi
Soleil8's translator: hi
Adams Rubble: One thing, we record our conversations and put them on a web page. Do you have any objection to that?
Soleil8 Andel: no problemes
Soleil8's translator: No problems
Adams Rubble: Thank you

henryo arrives next

henryo Haefnir: Hey!
Soleil8 Andel: je suis aussi en contact avec les mondes féeriques
Soleil8's translator: I am also in contact with the magical worlds
Adams Rubble: Hello henryo
Faenik: why not?
Geo Netizen: Good morning Henryo
Soleil8 Andel: voila
Soleil8's translator: voila
Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_
henryo Haefnir: Good morning!
Riddle Sideways: good morning Henryo and Faenik
Soleil8 Andel: cool ici
Soleil8's translator: cool here
Faenik: ^^
Riddle Sideways: SL magical worlds?
Adams Rubble: This morning we were discussing the appearances of reality in SL as opposed to RL
Geo Netizen: or in addition to
Adams Rubble: henryo, have you been here before?
Adams Rubble: yes Geo
Soleil8 Andel: je construit avec des amis
Soleil8's translator: I built with friends
Soleil8 Andel: un site virtuel
Soleil8's translator: a virtual site
henryo Haefnir: No Im pretty new to this
Soleil8 Andel: comme sl
Soleil8's translator: as sl
Soleil8 Andel: un site ou il y a pas de violence
Soleil8's translator: a site where there is no violence
henryo Haefnir accepted your inventory offer.
Soleil8 Andel: que des endroits magique
Soleil8's translator: as magical places
Geo Netizen: Is such a site possible?
Soleil8 Andel: pour reveiller l'emotion et la créativité
Soleil8's translator: to arouse emotion and creativity
Geo Netizen: I think of emotional violence
Riddle Sideways: may we know it's url?
Soleil8 Andel: et la communication
Soleil8's translator: and communication
Adams Rubble: A quick aside to henryo, the card sums up our practice. there is more information on the website. We stop every 15 minutes to meditate for 9 seconds to help us see reality. We meet here four times a day to discuss it. We record our conversations. Do you have any objections to that?
Soleil8 Andel: cette année nous l'ouvrirons au publique
Soleil8's translator: this year we will open to the public
henryo Haefnir: no
Adams Rubble: Thank you henryo :)
Soleil8 Andel: no problemes
Soleil8's translator: No problems
Riddle Sideways: good morning Storm
Faenik: could be
Soleil8 Andel: sur quel site
Soleil8's translator: on which site
henryo Haefnir: :-)
Geo Netizen smiles
Adams Rubble: Soleil8, is this site in SL or on the web?
Riddle Sideways: ok ok, everybody except me can do that
Soleil8 Andel: il sera sur le web
Soleil8's translator: it will be on the web
Adams Rubble: Riddle?
Riddle Sideways: as opensim?
Soleil8 Andel: exactement
Soleil8's translator: exactly
Soleil8 Andel: on pourra créer son univers
Soleil8's translator: we can create his universe
Soleil8 Andel: ce sera tres beau
Soleil8's translator: it will be very beautiful
Geo Netizen is playing with the bubbles
Soleil8 Andel: il est presque terminé
Soleil8's translator: it is almost finished
Gaya Ethaniel: ^^
Soleil8 Andel: hi
Soleil8's translator: hi
Faenik: why not?
Soleil8 Andel: il y aura beaucoup de lieux de meditations
Soleil8's translator: there will be many places of meditations
Soleil8 Andel: tres beaux
Soleil8's translator: very beautiful
henryo Haefnir: Bye Its very nice here!
Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_
Soleil8 Andel: oui
Soleil8's translator: yes
Adams Rubble: bye henryo
Geo Netizen: any particular to Tantra?
Geo Netizen: Bye Henryo
Riddle Sideways: yes, I think we all would like to visit when it opens

henryo departed

Soleil8 Andel: oui je vous inviterez
Soleil8's translator: yes I invite you
Soleil8 Andel: vous ne le regreterez pas
Soleil8's translator: You will not regret it
Soleil8 Andel: c'est le plus beau site du web
Soleil8's translator: is the best web site
Geo Netizen: sorry …. did we get an address yet?
Soleil8 Andel: hi
Soleil8's translator: hi
Soleil8 Andel: non
Soleil8's translator: no
Soleil8 Andel: pas encore
Soleil8's translator: not yet
Soleil8 Andel: il est en privé
Soleil8's translator: it is private
Soleil8 Andel: actuellement
Soleil8's translator: currently
Soleil8 Andel: pour faire les essais
Soleil8's translator: to test
Soleil8 Andel: tres compliqué au niveau technique
Soleil8's translator: very complicated technical level
Geo Netizen nods
Geo Netizen nods Merci
Soleil8 Andel: je vous inviterez
Soleil8's translator: I invite you
Gaya Ethaniel: ty Soleil ^^
Adams Rubble: merci
Soleil8 Andel: j'ai votre noms
Soleil8's translator: I have your names
Soleil8 Andel: hi
Soleil8's translator: hi
Soleil8 Andel: mon email
Soleil8 Andel: perlin10@yahoo.fr
Soleil8's translator: perlin10@yahoo.fr
Soleil8 Andel: je vous emmenerez des amis ici
Soleil8's translator: I bring friends here
Soleil8 Andel: j'ai beaucoups d'amis
Soleil8's translator: I have many friends
Soleil8 Andel: comme nous
Soleil8's translator: as we
Riddle Sideways: yes, we like visitors
Geo Netizen: It is always fun to explore reality with new friends
Soleil8 Andel: qui ont une démarche positive et constructrice
Soleil8's translator: that have a positive and constructive
Soleil8 Andel: oui je connais beaucoup de choses sur ce sujet et vecus de belles experiences intérieures
Soleil8's translator: yes I know a lot about this subject and experienced great inner experiences
Geo Netizen nods
Soleil8 Andel: heureux de vous rencontrez
Soleil8's translator: pleased to meet you
Faenik: why not?
Adams Rubble: Pleased to have met you too
Gaya Ethaniel: pleasure Soleil
Geo Netizen: heureux de vous rencontrez Soleil-san
Geo Netizen takes a humble bow
Soleil8 Andel: vous devez aussi connaitre aussi beaucoup de choses interessantes
Soleil8's translator: you should also know a lot of interesting things
Soleil8 Andel: important de s'échanger
Soleil8's translator: important exchange
Riddle Sideways: we like to think so :)
Adams Rubble: aw shucks
Geo Netizen laughs
Gaya Ethaniel giggles
Soleil8 Andel: hi
Soleil8's translator: hi
Soleil8 Andel: super
Soleil8's translator: great
Soleil8 Andel: beaucoup d'émotions
Soleil8's translator: many emotions
Soleil8 Andel: vous êtes un groupe
Soleil8's translator: you are a group
Gaya Ethaniel: You can be part of it too ^^
Soleil8 Andel: ok
Soleil8's translator: ok
Adams Rubble: We meet here 4 times a day, at 7,1,7 and 1, very six hours
Soleil8 Andel: moi je suis en europe
Soleil8's translator: I am in europe
Soleil8 Andel: vous êtes ou
Soleil8's translator: you are or
Soleil8 Andel: espagne
Soleil8's translator: spain
Adams Rubble: I am in the US
Gaya Ethaniel: in UK
Soleil8 Andel: ok
Soleil8's translator: ok
Riddle Sideways: we are from all over
Adams Rubble: yes, members from around the globe
Riddle Sideways: I am california
Soleil8 Andel: c'est pour s'accorder pour le decalage horaire
Soleil8's translator: is to agree to jet lag
Geo Netizen: One reason we meet at 1, 7, 13, 19 SLT
Soleil8 Andel: ok
Soleil8's translator: ok
Riddle Sideways: many asians that are not here at this time
Soleil8 Andel: oui heure sl
Soleil8's translator: yes hour sl
Soleil8 Andel: ok
Soleil8's translator: ok
Soleil8 Andel: compris
Soleil8's translator: including
Soleil8 Andel: super
Soleil8's translator: great
Faenik: なるほど^^
Gaya Ethaniel: How has been your experience of SL so far Soleil?
Soleil8 Andel: mon experience sur sl
Soleil8's translator: my experience on sl
Geo Netizen to Faenik: やあ なるほど
Soleil8 Andel: surtout j'ai rencontré
Soleil8's translator: I met mostly
Soleil8 Andel: des personnes interessantent
Soleil8's translator: people interessantent
Gaya Ethaniel: oh... Geo speaks Japanese?
Soleil8 Andel: visités des lieux magiques
Soleil8's translator: visited places magic
Soleil8 Andel: ok
Soleil8's translator: ok

soldierboy is next to join the group

Gaya Ethaniel: Sounds like you've been having a good time in SL ^^
Geo Netizen: Good morning Soldierboy :)\
Adams Rubble: Hello soldierboy
soldierboy Paule: hi
Soleil8 Andel: oui
Soleil8's translator: yes
soldierboy Paule: how can i sit down
Geo Netizen: Please do
Solobill Laville is Online
Soleil8 Andel: tres bonne experience
Soleil8's translator: Very good experience
Adams Rubble: Right click when of the cushions and choose sit
Riddle Sideways: pls touch a pillow
soldierboy Paule: ok
Geo Netizen nods
Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_
Riddle Sideways: welcome
Adams Rubble: Yes, welcome, I gave you a card with basic informnation
soldierboy Paule accepted your inventory offer.
Soleil8 Andel: cool merci
Soleil8's translator: cool thank you
Adams Rubble: We are a group whcih explores the nature of reality. We stop every 15 minutes and meditate for 9 seconds. We meet here four times a day to discuss our experiences
Gaya Ethaniel hears the hourly bell... time to attend RL/FL... meatspace... you know what I mean
Gaya Ethaniel: Enjoy the rest of your weekend ^^
Adams Rubble: bye Gaya
Geo Netizen: Good to see you again Gaya
Geo Netizen: I must go too
Adams Rubble: bye Geo
Soleil8 Andel: je suis aussi sur un autre site virtuel
Soleil8's translator: I am also on another virtual site
Riddle Sideways: yes Gaya
Soleil8 Andel: imvu
Soleil8's translator: imvu
Geo Netizen: Very nicely moderated Adams
Adams Rubble: thank you Geo :)
Geo Netizen: See everyone later

Solobill joins us...

Gaya Ethaniel pouts... a bad timing... Solo comes as I leave
soldierboy Paule: how can i get wings like u angle eyes
Riddle Sideways: I must also go
Solobill Laville: :)
Gaya Ethaniel waves
Solobill Laville: BYe

... and Geo and Gaya and Riddle leave

Adams Rubble: Hello Bill :)
Soleil8 Andel: je te donne des ailes
Soleil8's translator: I give you wings
Riddle Sideways: very nice meeting you all
Solobill Laville: Hi, Adams

Another visitor joined us here and it was not clear whether I had
permission to include his name so I am leaving it out. There was a bit
of a language problem.The translations seemed to be gibberish

soldierboy Paule: thnkz
Adams Rubble: Soldierboy, we record our sessions and put the logs on the web. Do you have any objection about being included. We can delete your name from the log if you prefer
soldierboy Paule: no thats ok i fine with it
Solobill Laville: Adams, is there a 8:00 guardian's meeting, or do I have my tiimes wrong?

I misssed Bill's question while I was briefing the newcomers

Adams Rubble: Thanks soldierboy :)
soldierboy Paule: so how do i get wings den
soldierboy Paule: how do i put them on
Adams Rubble: Joker, we are a group which explores the nature of reality. We stop every 15 minutes and meditate for 9 seconds. We meet here for times a day to discuss our experiences
Soleil8 Andel gave you Angel Dragon Right Wing-purple particle effect.
Soleil8 Andel gave you Angel Dragon Left Wing-purple particle effect.
Adams Rubble: merci Soleil
Soleil8 Andel: avec plaisir
Soleil8's translator: pleased
Solobill Laville: (Bye, Adams..) :) Bye all
Adams Rubble: Oh Bill, bye :)

Bill slips away (probably looking for someone else to answer his question)

Soleil8 Andel: hi
Soleil8's translator: hi
Adams Rubble: I need to go soon too. Can I answer any questions?
soldierboy Paule: soz g2g now bye
Adams Rubble: bye soldierboy
Soleil8 Andel: ok
Soleil8's translator: ok
Soleil8 Andel: je vous quitte
Soleil8's translator: I leave you
Soleil8 Andel: a bientot
Soleil8's translator: a bientot
Adams Rubble: bye Soleil
Soleil8 Andel: cool a bientot
Soleil8's translator: cool a bientot
Soleil8 Andel: bye
Soleil8's translator: bye
Adams Rubble: :)

They all left except the anonymous newcomer who was glowing
brightly and ascending up the pavilion so I left