2008.11.27 13:00 - Talking turkey

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    It was Thanksgiving in the US and Storm Nordwind, not yet an American resident, was waiting as guardian in the Play as Being pavilion. With him was an irascible turkey, pecking at leftovers and crumbs from the last meeting six hours previous, and it was so far leaving a charmed life. The comments for this meeting are Storm's.

    Storm Nordwind: Hi Umbriel
    Storm Nordwind: Hi Wol
    Umbriel Levenque: Peace and Love
    Wol Euler: hihi
    Becka Finesmith: hihi
    Umbriel Levenque: Peace and Love
    Storm Nordwind: Hi Becka
    Wol Euler laughs at Becka ice skating across stone
    Becka Finesmith: Hello Storm :)
    Becka Finesmith: lol - I love them - I haven't taken them off for days :)

    The bird decided to confront this intruder on its personal space.

    Becka Finesmith: oh no
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Wol Euler: ack!
    Wol Euler: who has the axe?
    Becka Finesmith: One of my rotating bodys just got thrown out of the system :(
    Umbriel Levenque: ^_^
    Storm Nordwind: Our little friend is not pleased with your remark it seems Wol
    Wol Euler: just a minor jokette ...
    Becka Finesmith: lol
    Storm Nordwind: Hi Sonic
    Becka Finesmith: Hi Sonic
    Sonic Moonites: hello
    Umbriel Levenque: Peace and Love
    Wol Euler: hello sonic
    Sonic Moonites: how is everyone
    Becka Finesmith: I'm great thanks :)
    Wol Euler: happy, oddly enough. And you?
    Umbriel Levenque: Well thanks
    Storm Nordwind is happy, relaxed and smiling
    Sonic Moonites: yeah pretty good thanks, liking the turkey!
    Becka Finesmith: BEing is smiling :)
    Wol Euler: indeed.
    Faenik loves wells!
    Becka Finesmith: oh yes. Happy Thanksgiving :)
    Wol Euler looks around. The turkey is the only American here.

    After a silence, broken only by the occasional "Gobble!" from the marauding turkey, I raised a topic.

    Storm Nordwind: Pema has just written a long email to the guardian group entitled "why PaB and why in SL?" Has anyone had chance to read it yet?
    Wol Euler: ah, no, not yet. shall we read and discuss?
    Becka Finesmith: I haven't read it yet - will go look now
    Storm Nordwind: It depends. Who, if anyone, has other things to discuss?
    Sonic Moonites: me too
    Storm Nordwind: Well perhaps we are agreed. :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Becka Finesmith: Thank you Umbriel
    Umbriel Levenque: Thanks ^_^
    Sonic Moonites: im sorry where can i get this text?
    Becka Finesmith: I shall give it to you in a Notecard?
    Sonic Moonites: ok great ty
    Sonic Moonites: thanks!
    Becka Finesmith: yw
    Faenik loves wells!

    Minutes passed as we read Pema's email. However, it contained a link to a long web article.

    Storm Nordwind has read the email, but is wondering whether to start on the long linked article...
    Wol Euler: yeah, I was hesitating there too. My inclination is not to do so (yet)
    Storm Nordwind: mine too
    Becka Finesmith: I'm still digesting the email....
    Umbriel Levenque: I've read both but the email offers enough points to start discussing imo...
    Wol Euler is readig the mail again instead
    Sonic Moonites: yeah im reading bits of it a few times
    Storm Nordwind is impressed with Umbriel's reading speed
    Umbriel Levenque: ^_^ read them before PaB heheheh
    Becka Finesmith: lol
    Faenik: why not?
    Storm Nordwind chuckles
    Wol Euler was too busy dancing. Ah well.

    Sonic raised a point about how open we are in Real Life about our Play as Being practice.

    Sonic Moonites: i have a question about the practice in relation to RL
    Storm Nordwind: Please go ahead Sonic
    Becka Finesmith: The turkey is testing my resolve :)
    Sonic Moonites: as a rule, do you tell people in RL about this group, and the practice that you do?
    Storm Nordwind: That's a great question
    Wol Euler: yes, but my RL friends think me quite mad anyway :)
    Sonic Moonites: ;)
    Storm Nordwind: I think I tell more people in SL about it than in RL
    Umbriel Levenque: ^_^ [I do both in RL and SL]
    Becka Finesmith: I told my colleagues because I was in the office when my 15 minute timers was going off and they asked me what it was
    Becka Finesmith: I caught them joining in afterwards
    Wol Euler: ah!
    Becka Finesmith: I think they thought I was tapping into something quite nice
    Storm Nordwind: I think I have more friends here! The people at work may have become stale in acquaintance
    Sonic Moonites: yes me too, i cant help the feeling i kind of have a "secret" in real life when i stop for the 9 sec
    Becka Finesmith: what do you do when you stop Sonic?
    Storm Nordwind: It is a secret Sonic... a secret weapon!
    Umbriel Levenque: ^_^
    Becka Finesmith: lol
    Sonic Moonites: ;) i usually just focus on my breathing when i stop
    Sonic Moonites: and then see what comes to mind

    Becka and I both had questions for Sonic.

    Storm Nordwind: Do you record what comes to mind Sonic?
    Becka Finesmith: yes. Do you close your eyes or notice things around you?
    Sonic Moonites: i havent managed to record physically what comes to mind yet no, i need a little notebook!
    Storm Nordwind nods
    Sonic Moonites: sorry Becka, i keep my eyes open
    Becka Finesmith nods
    Storm Nordwind: I think that's the best thing - to answer people's curiousity. I certain don't go round evangelising!
    Becka Finesmith: It's quite hard sometimes think because people ask you to explain when you can't. For example, at lunch today. I stopped when my timer rang, people gave me a funny look, but I didn't want to explain at that point
    Faenik: なるほど^^

    Craziness and audacity...

    Storm Nordwind: Pema talks at the end of his email about 'our crazy way'...
    Sonic Moonites: ;)
    Storm Nordwind: the way we short circuit things
    Storm Nordwind: and go straight to the goal
    Storm Nordwind: with the awareness
    Storm Nordwind: But it's not that crazy in my view. It's what my teacher calls 'bringing the result into the path'.
    Becka Finesmith: But I think I'm still trying to find that awareness. AS we have no goal, it's a static path.
    Sonic Moonites: i think there is "no" goal, although ironically you know when you progress
    Storm Nordwind: I know Sonic, so hard to describe!
    Sonic Moonites: it seems just a flaw of language, rather than a flaw of meaning
    Storm Nordwind: In fact I suspect that what we are doing is more audacious than crazy!
    Storm Nordwind nods at Sonic
    Wol Euler: crazy like a fox, maybe.
    Becka Finesmith: how would a traditional teacher see our way?
    Wol Euler: hello pema
    Storm Nordwind: Well I can only speak for my own path... but if you want a wider view ask Stim

    At that moment, the email's author arrived in person...

    Sonic Moonites: hey pema
    Storm Nordwind: Hi Pema!
    Becka Finesmith: Hi Pema - Happy Thanksgiving
    Umbriel Levenque: Peace and Love
    Wol Euler: hello steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello
    Sonic Moonites: hi stevenaia
    Storm Nordwind: Hi!
    Becka Finesmith: hello
    stevenaia Michinaga: nice to see you again Becka
    Faenik: indeed?
    Becka Finesmith: NIce to see you too :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: great work Storm
    Storm Nordwind watched as Pema passed right through us and disappeared in a crash

    ...and left in person...

    Umbriel Levenque: Peace and Love
    Wol Euler: probably connecting on his cellphone again :)
    Storm Nordwind smiles thank you to Steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello sonic and Umbriel

    ...and returned.

    Wol Euler: wb pema
    Storm Nordwind: Welcome pema - again!
    Umbriel Levenque: wb Pema ^_^
    stevenaia Michinaga: oh, the fountain finally rezzes for me....smile
    Pema Pera: hi there -- finally!
    Becka Finesmith: And you are sitting in it getting all wet ;)
    Storm Nordwind: The GOC wanted a fountain today ;)
    stevenaia Michinaga: seem's my pants are waterproof
    Umbriel Levenque: heheheh
    Becka Finesmith: phew

    So the momentum of our serious chat had fragmented! We talked turkey. Or rather we didn't. We talked tea.

    Sonic Moonites: ok, sorry time for me to go now! have a nice session guys
    Umbriel Levenque: Peace and Love
    Wol Euler: bye sonic, take care
    Storm Nordwind: Great to see you Sonic
    Pema Pera: bye Sonic!
    Storm Nordwind waves
    Sonic Moonites: you too!
    Becka Finesmith: Bye Sonic
    Pema Pera: Steve, as the only American, did you bring the turkey?
    Becka Finesmith: I'm going to have to leave too :( I will digest Pema's email this evening :)
    Wol Euler covers the turkey's ears.
    Storm Nordwind recalls the turkey brought himself
    Umbriel Levenque: Peace and Love
    Wol Euler: ah, bye Becka. goodnight
    Storm Nordwind: bye Becka
    stevenaia Michinaga: you don;t want the turkey I had
    Pema Pera: perhaps you need a good drink to help you digest, Becka!
    Becka Finesmith: namaste
    Becka Finesmith: lol - a cup of tea :)
    Becka Finesmith: We like our tea :)
    Pema Pera: sounds like a good drink! Darjeeling?
    Faenik: could be
    Storm Nordwind: We certainly do
    Wol Euler raises her cup in salute
    Becka Finesmith: Chamomile
    Becka Finesmith: with Honey
    Storm Nordwind raises his in Sliante!
    Becka Finesmith: very relaxing.
    Umbriel Levenque: Lovely ^_^
    Becka Finesmith: Soryr to have to leave :( See you all soon.
    Pema Pera: c u Becka!
    Wol Euler: bye, becka
    Storm Nordwind: bfn
    stevenaia Michinaga: there's a lovely Tea store in Chelsea Market, Pema
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye Becka
    Becka Finesmith: Byeee.
    Pema Pera: what is it called, Steve?
    stevenaia Michinaga: I was jsut there ;east weekend, I will check and send you the link, many varieties of many tea
    Pema Pera: Turkey circumambulating Umbriel . . . ..
    stevenaia Michinaga: *last
    Storm Nordwind: We have had half a session with the pool. Who would like the second half without?
    Umbriel Levenque: ^_^ anti-clockwise is the correct way Turkey
    Wol Euler is fine either way
    Storm Nordwind: Let us escape the turkey!
    Pema Pera: in RL turkeys try to escape us . . . .
    Storm Nordwind: This one got wind of what happened to his brothers
    Storm Nordwind: He's kind of irascible now
    Umbriel Levenque: ^_^
    Wol Euler chuckles. Poor Umbriel.
    Pema Pera: Well, Wol . . .
    Pema Pera: really likes you!
    Pema Pera: no, Umbriel
    Pema Pera: sorry
    Umbriel Levenque: Seems hungry
    Pema Pera: (turkey obscured my view)

    We got in a few words about the email and the article.

    stevenaia Michinaga: quite the article, pema " Imagine You’re Enlightened" much to process, Will have to re-read it/listen to it again
    Wol Euler: and we do look alike today.
    Umbriel Levenque: [The turkey seems hungry]
    Wol Euler: yes, we were just beginning to discuss your mail, Pema
    Pema Pera: I thought a Thanksgiving weekend would be good timing, Steve :-)
    Wol Euler: hello vraja
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    vraja Rexen: hi
    Umbriel Levenque: Peace and Love
    Pema Pera: Hi vraja!
    vraja Rexen: :-))
    Storm Nordwind: Hi!
    Wol Euler: Vraja, I will give you an introduction to the group in IM, so we don't disturb the others.
    vraja Rexen: please do so
    Pema Pera: Vraja has been here before, I believe
    Wol Euler: oh, have you?
    vraja Rexen: i have been here b4...
    Wol Euler: ah, ok, then that solves itself!
    vraja Rexen: but i dont know how to replay....
    vraja Rexen: what you said b4
    Wol Euler: ok, we'll cover that and then rejoin the group :)
    Pema Pera: Thanks, Wol!
    vraja Rexen: k :-0
    vraja Rexen: :-)
    Faenik: why not?
    Pema Pera: yeah, I hope I didn't provide too much homework :-) but Ken McLeod's article really was a strikingly good match to what we are doing, it seemed
    vraja Rexen: nope....
    Faenik: why not?
    Storm Nordwind: I agree, although we'll need some time on it!
    vraja Rexen: yes i found the communicate one
    vraja Rexen: yes yes
    Pema Pera accepted your inventory offer.
    vraja Rexen: ok...
    Storm Nordwind is trying to read back to find out where we were!

    That was a pointless exercise. I too crashed...

    Pema Pera: [but now Storm is gone . . . ]

    ...and returned.

    Wol Euler: wb storm
    Umbriel Levenque: wb Storm ^_^
    Wol Euler: and hello ********
    Pema Pera: Hi *******!
    stevenaia Michinaga: wb storm
    Pema Pera: come join us if you like, *******
    Storm Nordwind: Thank you. Complete system crash and shutdown
    ******* *********: hello
    Pema Pera: wb Storm
    Umbriel Levenque: Peace and Love
    stevenaia Michinaga: don;t mind the turkey
    ******* *********:: love and piece
    ******* *********:: I like the turkey
    Pema Pera: Have you been hear before, *******?

    Our visitor quickly disappeared and only a mysteriously fat turkey was left there.

    Wol Euler: I guess that means "no"
    Storm Nordwind: The turkey ate our visitor
    Umbriel Levenque: heheheh
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, that's no ordinary turkey
    Storm Nordwind: I wonder whether turkeys experience (or can experience) Being
    Umbriel Levenque: Enjoy your day or good night
    Umbriel Levenque: Peace and Love
    Wol Euler: bye umbriel, sleep well
    Pema Pera: bye Umbriel
    Storm Nordwind: bye Umbriel
    vraja Rexen: bye
    Pema Pera: but will they know they
    Pema Pera: re experiencing Being :-)
    Storm Nordwind: hmmm...
    Wol Euler shies away from the concept of self-awareness in the food chain.
    stevenaia Michinaga: but will we ever know?
    Storm Nordwind wonders whether his awareness has been turkey-like at times in the past
    Pema Pera wonders about awareness in his self-chain
    Storm Nordwind laughs and smiles in RL

    It was 14:00 SLT. Time for Happy Hour in the Kira Cafe. We adjourned and transferred.

    Pema Pera: well, I'd like to hop over to the Kira Cafe, to see how happy the hour is there . . . .
    Storm Nordwind: Good idea
    Wol Euler: ah, it's time.
    Pema Pera: see you all, sooner or later :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: aww happy hour, it will be my first
    Wol Euler: Vraja, will you join us? the beer is free and there's no hangover.
    Pema Pera: you know how to get there, Steve?
    Wol Euler: also virtual wine ... :)
    Storm Nordwind: And there's a walk and a nice balloon ride to get there
    stevenaia Michinaga: if not I;ll Im you
    vraja Rexen: im sorry but i dont know how...
    Pema Pera: ah yes, the beautiful balloon!
    Storm Nordwind: Then please follow us!
    Wol Euler: ok, go with Storm in the balloon ride, it is fun.
    Wol Euler: I'll see you there.
    Pema Pera: I'll tp you Vraja
    Wol Euler: follow storm

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