2009.03.21 19:00 - Methings Steve Has Practiced

The Guardian for this meeting was Pema Pera. The pictures were taken by Adelene and inserted by Pema.

Pema Pera: Hi Adelene!
Adelene Dawner: ^>^
Pema Pera: Thanks for the great blackboard tool that you created!
Pema Pera: That will come in really handy
Adelene Dawner: ^.^
Pema Pera: Are you happy enough with it now?
Pema Pera: Hi Steve!
Adelene Dawner: Not quite.
Adelene Dawner: Almost.
Adelene Dawner: 'nother day or two.
stevenaia Michinaga: hello
Pema Pera: sure, take your time!
Pema Pera: I'm sure that many other people may want to use it
Pema Pera: for example my astronomy group, if it is okay with you to give them a copy as well
Adelene Dawner: I think that's who korii asked for one for :)
stevenaia Michinaga: it is amazing, makes graphic fridays fun, what did you call that session, Ade?
Pema Pera: ah, already taken care of then -- one less thing to worry about :)
Pema Pera: and thanks for the textures, you're a real artist!
Adelene Dawner: Free Draw Friday. I may make that a regular feature if there are no objections ^.^
Adelene Dawner: Actually I told Korii she'd have to clear it with you/whoever first, but she's on it. ^.^
stevenaia Michinaga: attract the graphically incline, diagram Being
Adelene Dawner: hehe
Pema Pera: oh, fine to go with Korii, Adelene
Pema Pera: she'll get it to MICA fine! I'm always happy to have other people help out
Adelene Dawner: ok ^.^
Pema Pera: as long as it remains clear, down the line, that you were the creator, of course
Adelene Dawner: Of course
Pema Pera: I presume that remains visible, right?
Adelene Dawner: Yep
Pema Pera: I mean if someone inspects it
Adelene Dawner: Unless I get goofy with the permissions.
Pema Pera: after Korii passes it to X who passes it to Y, etc
Adelene Dawner: Which - no.
Adelene Dawner: :)
Pema Pera: Adelene the demiurg :-)
Adelene Dawner: hehe :)
Pema Pera: creator of all things visible on black :)

Soon Adelene would rez a copy for us all to play with

Pema Pera: hi Scat!
Adelene Dawner: Mostly right now, it has two user-friendliness issues that *have* to be dealt with
Pema Pera: hi Pila!
Adelene Dawner: One is that it eats prim allowance like woah
Pema Pera: ah
Pila Mulligan: greetings freinds
Adelene Dawner: Which I'm dealing with by havign it track how many prims it rezzes
Adelene Dawner: And stop when it hits a set number
Pema Pera: so if a conversation gets too intense, you can damp it down with a few blackboards rezzing :-)
Adelene Dawner: Until it's cleared
Pila Mulligan: hi Scathach
Adelene Dawner: Hi again, Pila ^.^
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello all:)
Pila Mulligan: hi Ade
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Scathach
stevenaia Michinaga: Pila
Adelene Dawner: The other thing is that it's actually like 4 or 5 objects - not too friendly to set up.
Pila Mulligan: Ade has a very cool fun thing
Pila Mulligan: hi Steve
Adelene Dawner: *giggles* They know, Pila ^.^
Pila Mulligan: have they seen it?
Adelene Dawner: Though I don't think Pema's seen as recent of a copy as you have.
Pila Mulligan: played with it rather
Pila Mulligan: my tech savy is past century, so this was really unique play
Pema Pera wonders about extremes, given that Adelene's hottest thing is so cool . . . .
Pila Mulligan: :)
Adelene Dawner: Nobody start playing with it yet, I'm going to re-squash that lurking bug in this version (which is old)
Pila Mulligan: Pema i saw a video of your presentation at a oncference on free will
Pila Mulligan: it was very impressive
Pema Pera: ah, at Columbia?
Pema Pera: University?
Pila Mulligan: yes, Mr. Intelligent Design to your left
Pila Mulligan: in the video :)
Pema Pera: haha, that was fun, yes
stevenaia Michinaga: is there a link?

Pila was refering to the Free Will Symposium at Columbia University, March 30-31, 2008

Pema Pera: very inspiring meeting
Pila Mulligan: some interesting stuff
Pila Mulligan: on Google
Pema Pera: ah, you know, that was realy funny: it was THE DAY BEFORE starting PaB
Pila Mulligan: I fund it on Google
Pema Pera: March 31, if I remember correctly
Pema Pera: auspicious
Pila Mulligan: yes, i saw that 3/31
Pema Pera: I don't remember what I said, but I remember a kind of flow :)
Pila Mulligan: well, you talked about SL after essentiually teling the guys that Being is It
Adelene Dawner: ok, bugs fumigated :)
Pila Mulligan: to the consternation of both sides, you brought science into it
Pema Pera: hehehe
Pila Mulligan: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: haha, oh no not that
Pema Pera: that always throws them off, right
Pila Mulligan: yep, he pissed of the relious guys and the scinece ugys otgether
Pema Pera: they try to use science and materialism as weapons against spirituality
Pila Mulligan: so it seemed
Pema Pera: and then I take those and radicalize them to show that they are the fastest way in :-)
Pila Mulligan: one guy looked like he should be more open minded but was quite antagonistic in words
Pila Mulligan: ready Ade?
Adelene Dawner: :)
Adelene Dawner: yep

We then all started drawing on Adelene's blackboard

Pila Mulligan: next
Adelene Dawner: (the colors look better if you turn local lights off, by the way - Storm's facelight does a real number on this.)
Adelene Dawner: Are we going around the circle? I think it's Sca's turn :)
stevenaia Michinaga: deja vu
Pila Mulligan: :)
Adelene Dawner: :D
Pila Mulligan: and deja vous aussi
Adelene Dawner thinks we have lost Scathach :)
Scathach Rhiadra: sorry, someone IM'ed me, I'm very naughty:)
Adelene Dawner: hehe :)
Scathach Rhiadra: what should i do?
Adelene Dawner: Pick a color by clicking any square on the bottom, then click and drag on the board to draw :)
Pila Mulligan: a group art expression
Pila Mulligan: wow
Pema Pera: haha
Pema Pera: quatre main
Pila Mulligan: :)
Scathach Rhiadra: heehee
Pema Pera: sorry to interfere with Scat
Pila Mulligan: h*
Pema Pera: was trying to write the Tibetan letter A
Pema Pera: can we erase, Adelene?
Pila Mulligan: let's start over with Scath going first
Adelene Dawner: This version can't easily but I can do it manually - what needs to go?
Adelene Dawner: all the red and green bits?
Pema Pera: I think- yes
Pila Mulligan: everytihng
Pema Pera: hahaha
Pema Pera: emptiness!
Adelene Dawner grins at Pila :)
Pila Mulligan: a void :)
Scathach Rhiadra: :)
Pema Pera: Saturday night nothing
Pema Pera: your turn or mine, Scat?
Adelene Dawner: ^.^
Scathach Rhiadra: you start please

Scathach Rhiadra: very good
Pila Mulligan: nice Pema
Pila Mulligan: om
Pema Pera: thank you
Pema Pera: no, just "a"
Pila Mulligan: aum
Pema Pera: your turn , Scat
Scathach Rhiadra: needs a bit on top to be AUM
Pila Mulligan: h*
Pema Pera: only A not UM
Pema Pera: yes
Pila Mulligan: hum :)
Pema Pera: hahaha
Pema Pera: ahum
Pila Mulligan: translate please
Pema Pera: beautiful, Scat, om indeed!

Scathach managed to turn my Tibetan letter A into an OM or AUM

Scathach Rhiadra: not too neat
Pema Pera: om
Pila Mulligan: cool
Pema Pera: ohm in electric terms :)
Pema Pera: if you like to add a bit of resistance
Pila Mulligan: watts that?
Scathach Rhiadra: :)
Pema Pera: http://www.ka-gold-jewelry.com/p-pro...all-silver.php
Pema Pera: as an example
Pema Pera: hehehe, Pila
Pema Pera: saturday night fever here
Pila Mulligan: hey, astronomy dude :)
Pila Mulligan: stars

Pema Pera: just waking up, Pila

Pema Pera: planets? green dots?
Pila Mulligan: star trek
Pila Mulligan: Mr. Spock, whjat is that object on the viewer
Pema Pera: how are your tibetan lessons going, Scat?
Pema Pera: (sorry, still haven't been able to find a knowledgeable Linden, re scripts)
Scathach Rhiadra: not too well at the moment, people have been missing for the last few weeks:(
Pema Pera: how about the teacher?
Pila Mulligan: cool Ade :)
Scathach Rhiadra: missing too, traveling on retreats in the US
Pema Pera: do you know that the tea hut, where the lessons are held, is the birthplace of PaB?
Scathach Rhiadra: should start up again at beginning of April
Pema Pera: one year ago?
Pema Pera: April 1?
stevenaia Michinaga: the lessons are in SL
Scathach Rhiadra: yes, a lot has atarted there:)
Pema Pera: :-)
Scathach Rhiadra: started*
Adelene Dawner: Over to you, Steve :)
stevenaia Michinaga: hmmm
Pema Pera: That's where Stevenaia joined us, in May or so
Pema Pera: or perhaps even earlier
Pema Pera: snow man?
Pila Mulligan: now that is skillful, Steve

Steve quietly started drawing a quite intricate depiction of the pavilion where we were seated.

Scathach Rhiadra: :)
Pema Pera: marsh mellow man?
Pila Mulligan: pavaillion
Pema Pera: ah!
Pema Pera: wow
Pila Mulligan: really
Adelene Dawner: yes wow :)
Scathach Rhiadra: cool:)
Pema Pera: wedding cake!
Pila Mulligan: architect :)
Pema Pera: So this is what you'll build for us in Hawaii, right, Pila?
Scathach Rhiadra: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: you are here
Pila Mulligan: it would be a nice feature
Pila Mulligan: :)
Scathach Rhiadra: not Nepal!
Pila Mulligan: or Nepal
Pema Pera trying to picture the building covered by a cozy veneer of vulcanic ashes
Pila Mulligan: beautiful Steve
stevenaia Michinaga: grins
Pema Pera: a candle on top, for PaB's first birthday, Steve?
Pila Mulligan: methings Steve has practiced
Pila Mulligan: k*
stevenaia Michinaga: A PaB Bd Card
Pema Pera: no stopping this man now . . . .
Pila Mulligan: very appropriate art
Scathach Rhiadra: this is a really nice toy, Ade, I want one:)
Adelene Dawner: :)
Pema Pera: now the challenge to add the avatars; like the dot for Lincoln on the back of the penny
stevenaia Michinaga: hehe
stevenaia Michinaga: need more drugs for that
Pema Pera: green dots will do!
Pema Pera: something tells me that Adelene will have to create larger sizes blackboards
Pema Pera: grande
Pema Pera: venti
Pema Pera: grandissimo
Pila Mulligan: or have several open at once
Adelene Dawner: This is already 5 meters by 3.5
Pila Mulligan: mutitisiom
stevenaia Michinaga: perhaps a dome shaped board
Adelene Dawner: I'll have to change the scripts if I make it bigger than 8 by 8 or so
stevenaia Michinaga: now she can remove these objects too
Adelene Dawner: possiblt less - I'd have to do the math
Adelene Dawner: all the bits have to be within 10 m of each other, center to center
Adelene Dawner: and all four corners of trhe board have to be within 10m of everything

stevenaia Michinaga: next

Adelene Dawner: Scath again :)
Scathach Rhiadra: sorry, taking a snapshot:)
stevenaia Michinaga: perhaps a light grid background
Adelene Dawner: I'm taking snaps of the board, so you don't have to worry about that, but I don't want to move my cam...
Pila Mulligan: ok
Scathach Rhiadra: trying for a star, not so good, too small
Pila Mulligan: fun Ade :)
stevenaia Michinaga: Ade's Drawing Machine
Adelene Dawner: It's been requested, Steve, and when I get ot adding slideshow features that'll be part of it :)
Pema Pera: I'll be posting the chat log soon(ish), but feel free, all of you, to then add your snapshots directly! I'll have it there by tomorro midday, the latest
Adelene Dawner: done, Scath?
Scathach Rhiadra: yes ty:)
Adelene Dawner: Pema next :)
Pema Pera thinking: you are neither here nor there . . . but doesn't see enough room to type that

I was refering to what Steve had written "you are here" next to the picture of the pavilion.

Pema Pera: *draw that
Adelene Dawner: hehe^.^
stevenaia Michinaga: I would put your name on the fram Ade
stevenaia Michinaga: jsut to amazing not to know the creator
Adelene Dawner doesn't think so... my name's available by inspecting it.
stevenaia Michinaga: aww, ok
Adelene Dawner: And I don't want to be *completely* innundated with people. ^.^
Adelene Dawner: Still thinking, Pem?
Pema Pera: oh, ah, my turn, really?
Adelene Dawner: Yep!
Pema Pera: but it's already so complete, and I started with the ah!
Adelene Dawner: *giggles* ok :)
Scathach Rhiadra: yes, if we do any more we might ruin it:)
Adelene Dawner: btw, when I said it eats prims? That's 1,024.
Pema Pera: :)
Pila Mulligan: 'the holy science takes as a beginning knowing when to stop, and as an end stopping at the highest good'
Scathach Rhiadra: ah, so maybe not so good a toy
Adelene Dawner: ^.^
Pema Pera: shall we declare this painting to be the highest good?
Pila Mulligan: yep
Adelene Dawner: :)
Pema Pera: or at least good enough?
Scathach Rhiadra: yes
Pema Pera: highest good enough?
Pila Mulligan: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: ear it off , hang it on the pavillion
Pila Mulligan: t*
stevenaia Michinaga: t
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Pila Mulligan: reminds me of 60's expressive therapy
Pila Mulligan: or whatever it was called :)
Pila Mulligan: as someone said, if you rememebr the 60's you werent there
Adelene Dawner: ^.^
Pema Pera: I was there :-)
Pila Mulligan: are you sure?
Pema Pera: sure enough :)
Pila Mulligan: s'alreet
Pema Pera: It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)

Pila told us an interesting dream of his . . .

Pila Mulligan: Pema I rememebred a dream I had when I first started building here in the rianforest
Pila Mulligan: I had forgotten it
Pema Pera: To understand you know too soon There is no sense in trying.
Pema Pera: yes, Pila?
Pila Mulligan: it was before we had done anything to start the work
Pila Mulligan: in the dream I was walking cross country to the forest
Pila Mulligan: then into the forest
Pila Mulligan: and int he middle of the trees was this lodge like building
Pila Mulligan: and I went inside and there were about twenty people sitting around on couches and stuff, by a fire, with mugs nd chatting
Pila Mulligan: and they were Europeans
Pema Pera: hehehe
Adelene Dawner: :D
Pema Pera: how nice!
Pila Mulligan: :)
Pema Pera is happy that his Dutch accent doesn't show up in his typing here :)
Pila Mulligan: think not :)
Adelene Dawner awws - I like your accent, Pema. :)
Pema Pera: did they doodle pictures that looked like a wedding cake, Pila?
Pila Mulligan: :)
Pema Pera: with Tibetan letters floating on top?
Pila Mulligan: no, it was very mountain lodge like
Pema Pera: but seriously, what a nice dream!
Pema Pera: thank you for sharing that with us
Pila Mulligan: really I never knew quite what to make of it
Pila Mulligan: at the time
Pila Mulligan: now I have an idea :)
Pema Pera: well, now you know, I guess :)
Pema Pera: yes
Pila Mulligan: but it also give me a hint as to planiong
Adelene Dawner: ^.^
Pila Mulligan: there were no roads or anything but the room :)
Pema Pera: that sounds tasty, some planiong
Pila Mulligan: we need more than a room :)
Pema Pera: (wild fruits of the neighborhood?)
Pila Mulligan: planiong may be something besides a tpyo :)
Pila Mulligan: not sure
Pema Pera: a kind of banana?
Pila Mulligan: plantain
Pema Pera: but sweeter
Pila Mulligan: or chinese
Pema Pera: ah yes
Pema Pera: more spicy
Scathach Rhiadra: ok, thank you!
Pila Mulligan: thank you Scath :)
Pema Pera: Scathach appreciates planiongs that is clear!
Scathach Rhiadra: :)
Pila Mulligan: Ram Dass once asked a guru what the closest English words would be for a mantra
Pema Pera: I think they are more bulb like than normal bananas, don't you think?
Pila Mulligan: like om mane padme hum ro somehitng
Pila Mulligan: but engliosh
Pila Mulligan: the guru said, 'please please sorry thank you'
Pema Pera: oh my no pay me man
Pila Mulligan: :)

Switching over to various languages . . .

Pila Mulligan: so if you ever want to try an english mantra, there's one
Pema Pera: hhhmmmmm
Pila Mulligan: that's Dutch
Pema Pera: too few g sounds
Pema Pera: ghghghgmmmm
Pila Mulligan: hhhggmmm
Pema Pera: like Irish
Scathach Rhiadra: ha:)
Pema Pera: like the hach in Scathach!
Scathach Rhiadra: that is all the ch'es
Pila Mulligan: Nymf, my old Ducth frined from SL, was sayng once how close Dutch and Celtic cultures are
Pema Pera: yes
Scathach Rhiadra: yes, gutteral
Pema Pera: ah, you know Nymf?
Pila Mulligan: very wel, I miss her
Pema Pera: she handed us Kiranians her Science Circle
Pila Mulligan: yep
Pema Pera: very kind of her
Pila Mulligan: she did a good forum for a year
Pema Pera: more than that, I belief
Pila Mulligan: then moved on :)
Pema Pera: who knows, maybe she'll be back
Pema Pera: anything is possible
Pila Mulligan: I hope so
Pema Pera: We Dutch people have our ways :-)
Pila Mulligan: she worked for Greenpeace in Holland
Pema Pera: yes, she's quite special
Pila Mulligan: in fact, it was at her forum that I also met the sometimes vociferous Samuel O'Kelly
Pila Mulligan: he left there as he did here by the way
Pema Pera: small world!
Pema Pera: well, it's getting late here . . . ready to get some sleep
stevenaia Michinaga: night Pema
Pema Pera: Thank you Adelene for the great playpen!
Pema Pera: and all of you for fun and games
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, great tool
Pila Mulligan: sweet dreams Pema
Pema Pera will be dreaming of planiongs, sweet planiongs
Adelene Dawner: ^.^
Pila Mulligan: and spicy :)
Scathach Rhiadra: night Pema:)
Adelene Dawner: 'night Pem
Pema Pera: nice, round, tasty
Pema Pera: bye everybody!
Pila Mulligan: bye
stevenaia Michinaga: see you...well, tomarrow
Pila Mulligan: bye Steve -- really nice art work :)
Adelene Dawner: 'night Steve :)
Scathach Rhiadra: bye Steve:)
Scathach Rhiadra: I must go too, night Pila, Ade, thanks for the drawing, it was fun:)
Adelene Dawner: 'night Sca :)
Pila Mulligan: it was much fun, bye Scath
Pila Mulligan: well, you have made an excellent thing Ade
Adelene Dawner: ^.^
Adelene Dawner: Better clean it up now
Pila Mulligan: is it difficult to set up and take down?
Pila Mulligan: nope
Adelene Dawner: Not *really*
Adelene Dawner: but it'd be hard for someone who wasn't familiar with the edit tools, especially moving it.
Pila Mulligan: well, I'm sure you'll have it polished up in no time
Adelene Dawner: Yep ^.^
Pila Mulligan: brb
Pila Mulligan: back
Adelene Dawner: ^.^
Pila Mulligan: are you the Guardian tonight?
Adelene Dawner: Nope, Pema was. I can turn the logger off though since we seem to be done.
Pila Mulligan: yep