2009.05.05 19:00 - Being as Garden

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.



    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Corvi
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi, Eos
    Eos Amaterasu: I believe that tonight there will be another attempt to discuss "How can the experiential be formally communicated to another using the experience of peace and happiness as examples"
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: hm
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: is Steve involved in this?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire points to the word "happiness" as a clue that Stevenaia might be behind this.
    Eos Amaterasu: Umm, I think this was originally requested by (forget who), and then followed up by Pema
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: well it sounds interesting.
    Eos Amaterasu: Geo proposed that topic
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: ah!
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Geo!
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
    Eos Amaterasu: I don't think I've met Geo yet
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I hope you have the opportunity. I've learned alot from him.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire thinks

    Corvi asks Eos about his being here, and the ongoing quest

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: while we're waiting...
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: What has kept you coming back to PaB?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: what have you gained here, so far?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: if you don't mind my asking?
    Eos Amaterasu: The project, playing as Being, is intriguing, has Bead Game qualities, seems part of an ongoing quest
    Corvuscorva Nightfire looks up Bead Game
    Eos Amaterasu: Plus I find that there can be very genuine connections made, sometimes quite moving
    Eos Amaterasu: "real"
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
    Eos Amaterasu: Herman Hesse, glass bead game, kind of a self-aware play exploring reflections of topics on each other, including the game itself
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: meta reflections.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire thinks.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: tell me about the ongoing quest?
    Eos Amaterasu: Partly it's that you find yourself here, or realize you're here
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: in sl?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: or..
    Eos Amaterasu: at all
    Corvuscorva Nightfire considers
    Eos Amaterasu: it's like when I saw my son when he was first born, his eyes were wide open, with lots of awareness
    Eos Amaterasu: but just a wide open question
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods
    Eos Amaterasu: I'm from a question, from where was I born?
    Eos Amaterasu: and on the road to a question, where do I "go"?
    Eos Amaterasu: and sometimes catching the suspension of being here
    Eos Amaterasu: and meanwhile there's all this phenomenality
    Eos Amaterasu: I hear the birds in SL
    Eos Amaterasu: and in RL
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
    Eos Amaterasu: and am talking with one :-)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire grins.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: peeps
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: so..sometimes..you..find yourself "here"
    Eos Amaterasu: you realize you're here, or that you exist, or things exist, are happening
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods. I think i understand what you are saying, here.
    Eos Amaterasu: and then you encounter people with whom you can share that
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: who might just..might...get it.
    Eos Amaterasu: both in the touching of it and missing, not being able to touch it
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: nods
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: that...i know i do get.


    Sensory languages 

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: oh...I...You use tactile language!
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: ah
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
    Eos Amaterasu: ?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: some people use visual words to describe understanding..well..most people do.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: "i see!"
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: for instance.
    Eos Amaterasu: gotcha :-)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: i tend to use kinesthetics. (movement) or tactile (touch).
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: you have been carefully neutral...or used touching.
    Eos Amaterasu: I think Einstein was somewhat "muscular" in how he related with "abstractions"
    Corvuscorva Nightfire grins. Yes, i think so, too!
    Eos Amaterasu: getting to relativity theory by imagining himself sitting on a light wave
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods. It's funny how different people use different analogies of senses to filter the world.
    Eos Amaterasu: One of my favorite funny lines is someone saying that Kant's categorical imperative tastes like veal cutlet
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: taste!!!! that's a rare one! but...delicious.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: a yummy way to filter the world.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: to describe it back to others.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: sorry 'bout that..i sometimes miss that bell, as i'm thinking/talking.
    Eos Amaterasu: heh


    Garden of senses

    Eos Amaterasu: our senses are like a garden inside which we walk
    Corvuscorva Nightfire imagines this...
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: imagines..a little being..flowing...and becoming it's senses....which flow into other beings surrounding them...and flowing back.
    Eos Amaterasu: nice
    Eos Amaterasu: I just remembered a Keats poem fragment (from 'Psyche')
    And in the midst of this wide quietness 
    A rosy sanctuary will I dress 
    With the wreath'd trellis of a working brain,
    With buds, and bells, and stars without a name, 
    With all the gardener Fancy e'er could feign, 
    Who breeding flowers, will never breed the same;
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: yeah..
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: that takes a while to read..but...very worth it.
    Eos Amaterasu: that "wide quietness"....
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: and what we think is us...is...a little game in it....
    Eos Amaterasu: the "Eos Amaterasu Experience" :-)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: i like that...
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: the Corvi experience...


    The Corvuscorva Experience 

    Eos Amaterasu: What brings Corvi to Play as Being?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: hmmm
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: for one thing...i enjoy the people and the conversation.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: and..i get to hit people with pillows!!!
    Corvuscorva Nightfire thinks.
    Eos Amaterasu: !
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: i've learned alot here..been helped a great deal both in conversations i've participated in, and those i've read that i've not been at.
    Eos Amaterasu: You have pillows in your inventory that you pull out and throw?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: naww..i just role play it.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: much easier.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: i do have pies though
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: but they make a mess.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire grins.
    Eos Amaterasu: may you be bombarded with cocoanuts of wakefulness (another quote)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: ohhhhhhh
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods and scribbles.
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: i dunno about that wakefulness stuff....
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: it can be a bit...umm..hard to take, at times.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: the process
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: of getting hit with them coconuts.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire considers.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: i guess it's better than never getting hit with 'em.
    Eos Amaterasu: cocoanuts: chocolate coconuts?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: ohhh
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: well
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: cocoanuts..
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: those might be easier..they're smaller...and...can be made yummier.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods solemnly.


    Exeunt Omnes 

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Eos..it was truly lovely to talk with you. Thank you.
    Eos Amaterasu: LIkewise I really enjoyed this - thank you.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I'll see you next Tuesday if not before.
    Eos Amaterasu: Btw, I just got an invite to "9 y/old piano prodigy TomoFumi Mayako is going to give an impromptu concert at Commonwealth"
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: wow!
    Eos Amaterasu: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Commonwealth%20Island/72/156/23
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: now?
    Eos Amaterasu: Would you like to drop over - yes, now, and for only the next half hour....
    Eos Amaterasu: Classical , i think
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: k..i'll meet you there!
    Eos Amaterasu: ciao!
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