2009.05.05 19:00 - Being as Garden

The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.

Prelims 

Eos Amaterasu: Hi Corvi
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi, Eos
Eos Amaterasu: I believe that tonight there will be another attempt to discuss "How can the experiential be formally communicated to another using the experience of peace and happiness as examples"
Corvuscorva Nightfire: hm
Corvuscorva Nightfire: is Steve involved in this?
Corvuscorva Nightfire points to the word "happiness" as a clue that Stevenaia might be behind this.
Eos Amaterasu: Umm, I think this was originally requested by (forget who), and then followed up by Pema
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: well it sounds interesting.
Eos Amaterasu: Geo proposed that topic
Corvuscorva Nightfire: ah!
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Geo!
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
Eos Amaterasu: I don't think I've met Geo yet
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I hope you have the opportunity. I've learned alot from him.
Corvuscorva Nightfire thinks

Corvi asks Eos about his being here, and the ongoing quest

Corvuscorva Nightfire: while we're waiting...
Corvuscorva Nightfire: What has kept you coming back to PaB?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: what have you gained here, so far?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: if you don't mind my asking?
Eos Amaterasu: The project, playing as Being, is intriguing, has Bead Game qualities, seems part of an ongoing quest
Corvuscorva Nightfire looks up Bead Game
Eos Amaterasu: Plus I find that there can be very genuine connections made, sometimes quite moving
Eos Amaterasu: "real"
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
Eos Amaterasu: Herman Hesse, glass bead game, kind of a self-aware play exploring reflections of topics on each other, including the game itself
Corvuscorva Nightfire: meta reflections.
Corvuscorva Nightfire thinks.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: tell me about the ongoing quest?
Eos Amaterasu: Partly it's that you find yourself here, or realize you're here
Corvuscorva Nightfire: in sl?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: or..
Eos Amaterasu: at all
Corvuscorva Nightfire considers
Eos Amaterasu: it's like when I saw my son when he was first born, his eyes were wide open, with lots of awareness
Eos Amaterasu: but just a wide open question
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods
Eos Amaterasu: I'm from a question, from where was I born?
Eos Amaterasu: and on the road to a question, where do I "go"?
Eos Amaterasu: and sometimes catching the suspension of being here
Eos Amaterasu: and meanwhile there's all this phenomenality
Eos Amaterasu: I hear the birds in SL
Eos Amaterasu: and in RL
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
Eos Amaterasu: and am talking with one :-)
Corvuscorva Nightfire grins.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: peeps
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: so..sometimes..you..find yourself "here"
Eos Amaterasu: you realize you're here, or that you exist, or things exist, are happening
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods. I think i understand what you are saying, here.
Eos Amaterasu: and then you encounter people with whom you can share that
Corvuscorva Nightfire: who might just..might...get it.
Eos Amaterasu: both in the touching of it and missing, not being able to touch it
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: nods
Corvuscorva Nightfire: that...i know i do get.

Sensory languages 

Corvuscorva Nightfire: oh...I...You use tactile language!
Corvuscorva Nightfire: ah
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
Eos Amaterasu: ?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: some people use visual words to describe understanding..well..most people do.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: "i see!"
Corvuscorva Nightfire: for instance.
Eos Amaterasu: gotcha :-)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: i tend to use kinesthetics. (movement) or tactile (touch).
Corvuscorva Nightfire: you have been carefully neutral...or used touching.
Eos Amaterasu: I think Einstein was somewhat "muscular" in how he related with "abstractions"
Corvuscorva Nightfire grins. Yes, i think so, too!
Eos Amaterasu: getting to relativity theory by imagining himself sitting on a light wave
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods. It's funny how different people use different analogies of senses to filter the world.
Eos Amaterasu: One of my favorite funny lines is someone saying that Kant's categorical imperative tastes like veal cutlet
Corvuscorva Nightfire: taste!!!! that's a rare one! but...delicious.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: a yummy way to filter the world.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: to describe it back to others.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: sorry 'bout that..i sometimes miss that bell, as i'm thinking/talking.
Eos Amaterasu: heh

Garden of senses

Eos Amaterasu: our senses are like a garden inside which we walk
Corvuscorva Nightfire imagines this...
Corvuscorva Nightfire: imagines..a little being..flowing...and becoming it's senses....which flow into other beings surrounding them...and flowing back.
Eos Amaterasu: nice
Eos Amaterasu: I just remembered a Keats poem fragment (from 'Psyche')

And in the midst of this wide quietness 
A rosy sanctuary will I dress 
With the wreath'd trellis of a working brain,
With buds, and bells, and stars without a name, 
With all the gardener Fancy e'er could feign, 
Who breeding flowers, will never breed the same;

Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: yeah..
Corvuscorva Nightfire: that takes a while to read..but...very worth it.
Eos Amaterasu: that "wide quietness"....
Corvuscorva Nightfire: and what we think is us...is...a little game in it....
Eos Amaterasu: the "Eos Amaterasu Experience" :-)
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: i like that...
Corvuscorva Nightfire: the Corvi experience...

The Corvuscorva Experience 

Eos Amaterasu: What brings Corvi to Play as Being?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: hmmm
Corvuscorva Nightfire: for one thing...i enjoy the people and the conversation.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: and..i get to hit people with pillows!!!
Corvuscorva Nightfire thinks.
Eos Amaterasu: !
Corvuscorva Nightfire: i've learned alot here..been helped a great deal both in conversations i've participated in, and those i've read that i've not been at.
Eos Amaterasu: You have pillows in your inventory that you pull out and throw?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: naww..i just role play it.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: much easier.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: i do have pies though
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: but they make a mess.
Corvuscorva Nightfire grins.
Eos Amaterasu: may you be bombarded with cocoanuts of wakefulness (another quote)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: ohhhhhhh
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods and scribbles.
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: i dunno about that wakefulness stuff....
Corvuscorva Nightfire: it can be a bit...umm..hard to take, at times.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: the process
Corvuscorva Nightfire: of getting hit with them coconuts.
Corvuscorva Nightfire considers.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: i guess it's better than never getting hit with 'em.
Eos Amaterasu: cocoanuts: chocolate coconuts?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: ohhh
Corvuscorva Nightfire: well
Corvuscorva Nightfire: cocoanuts..
Corvuscorva Nightfire: those might be easier..they're smaller...and...can be made yummier.
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods solemnly.

Exeunt Omnes 

Corvuscorva Nightfire: Eos..it was truly lovely to talk with you. Thank you.
Eos Amaterasu: LIkewise I really enjoyed this - thank you.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I'll see you next Tuesday if not before.
Eos Amaterasu: Btw, I just got an invite to "9 y/old piano prodigy TomoFumi Mayako is going to give an impromptu concert at Commonwealth"
Corvuscorva Nightfire: wow!
Eos Amaterasu: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Commonwealth%20Island/72/156/23
Corvuscorva Nightfire: now?
Eos Amaterasu: Would you like to drop over - yes, now, and for only the next half hour....
Eos Amaterasu: Classical , i think
Corvuscorva Nightfire: k..i'll meet you there!
Eos Amaterasu: ciao!