2009.05.12 07:00 - SEP, How do you read?

The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

What with favorite desktop computer acting up and all laptops out or not working, I thought I would have hardware problems getting to you today.  But, no the backup still works.  Then SL would not let me log in directly to the Pavilion. Was mentally composing one of those "I tried..." emails.  Luckly, I could login to anaother area and TP to the next quad and have a nice virtual walk.

Adams was already waiting there (I never did get to read what Adams' T-shirt said).

Adams Rubble: Hello Riddle :)
Adams Rubble waiting for Riddle to fix things the way he likes them :)
Riddle Sideways: thanks
Riddle Sideways: small group look, I should think today
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: sorry computer probs this morning
Adams Rubble: Oh bummer
Riddle Sideways: could not get to here directly
Adams Rubble: sometimes that happens for some reason
Riddle Sideways: no "can't get there from here" today
Adams Rubble giggles
Riddle Sideways: we (maybe) over did that last week
Riddle Sideways: nahhhh
Adams Rubble: yes, I think we may but we shook one secret fan out of hiding :)

Having over done the FST last week, I chringed at Adams and I getting right back into it.

Sophia enters. [page 2]

Adams Rubble: Hello Sophia :)
sophia Placebo: greerings adam:)
Riddle Sideways: Hi Sophia
sophia Placebo: hi riddle :)
Adams Rubble: Nice new look :)
sophia Placebo: ty =)

Riddle Sideways: well, that was 90 seconds without the gong
Adams Rubble: :)

Riddle Sideways: wish I had the time and creative for a make-over or 3
Riddle Sideways: I gave up on trying to comb my hair
Adams Rubble: :)
sophia Placebo: :)
sophia Placebo: i wish i can do a nice hair myself one day
Adams Rubble: I am not very patient with building
sophia Placebo: yeah it needs alot of patient and determination
sophia Placebo: i managed to do a table :))
Adams Rubble: :)
sophia Placebo: creat*
Adams Rubble: I made a Buddha stele but it just a cube :)
sophia Placebo: hehe
Adams Rubble: not much creativity
Riddle Sideways: hey I made a cube too :)
Adams Rubble: hehe
Adams Rubble: It has nice textures though
Riddle Sideways: somebody came by my SL house and asked what is that
Riddle Sideways: I said "Art"
Adams Rubble: hehe
sophia Placebo: :))
Riddle Sideways: when I was a kid I made clay things
Riddle Sideways: then we would put a cigarette knotch in it
Riddle Sideways: call it an ash tray
Riddle Sideways: there is a strange big winged car thingie in the next lot
Riddle Sideways: somebody just parked it there
Adams Rubble: It was there on the weekend
Riddle Sideways: like so many Rural Colleges
Riddle Sideways: farmers place art out behind the barn

Adams Rubble: Ah, it is a batmobile owned by somebody named "Rotten"
Riddle Sideways: RL should have "right-click"
Adams Rubble: yes
Adams Rubble: and tags over our heads
Adams Rubble: and tps
sophia Placebo: i wouldnt like a tag over my head
Riddle Sideways: yes, tps
sophia Placebo: yes tps
Riddle Sideways: you could tag yourself
Adams Rubble: we could add messages about how we feel that day
Riddle Sideways: not have others tag you
Adams Rubble: oh no, not others
Riddle Sideways: RL people seem to tag us all the time
Adams Rubble: yes
sophia Placebo: like the face is not enough or the voice tone :)

Adams Rubble: I have trouble remembering names :)
Riddle Sideways: that would help if we were tagged
sophia Placebo: me too , it cause alot of embarrasment ,spicially when the other person greet you wormly and remmber your full name
Adams Rubble: yes
Riddle Sideways: everybody seems to remember my name
sophia Placebo: is it funny name?
Riddle Sideways: so embrassing to not remember there's
Riddle Sideways: some people think "Riddle" is a funny name
Adams Rubble: a bit of a mystery
sophia Placebo: oh it is your name in rl as well
Riddle Sideways: yes, RL name too
sophia Placebo: ok , no wonder everyone rember your name , a walking riddle
Riddle Sideways: sorry, but yes I am
Riddle Sideways: Sl has so many art objects like that car
sophia Placebo: i see
Riddle Sideways: but it can't be rural collage because the tires are still good
Adams Rubble looks for some cinder blocks

An abandoned car, boat or linden airplane suck in your house is common here. Yet, we look at it.  Stare at it.  Wonder about the art value, the creative process to make it.  We tell ourselves stories about the objects.
In RL we go on about our biz.

Sometimes, I just want to slap you awake!!!!.

Riddle Sideways: in RL we often gaze past odd objects
Riddle Sideways: in SL we seem to notice them
Riddle Sideways: the SEP principle doesn't work here
Riddle Sideways: (Someboy else's problem)
Riddle Sideways: a SEP field around an object keeps you from seeing the object
Riddle Sideways: yesterday I saw (out of the corner of my eye) a box in the road
Riddle Sideways: I stopped and went back to move it
Riddle Sideways: 13 cars drove right by
Riddle Sideways: they did not see it or me
sophia Placebo: really?
Riddle Sideways: 1 drove over it just before I got there
Riddle Sideways: I am trying to figure out the lesson there
Riddle Sideways: wonder if there MUST be a lesson in everything?
Riddle Sideways: or if it just seems so
sophia Placebo: maybe not a whole lesson
Riddle Sideways: right, very seldom the whole lesson
Riddle Sideways: usually has to be repeated
sophia Placebo: the lesson?
Riddle Sideways: repeated

Riddle Sideways: I started a new book last night "The Alchemist" (author?)
Riddle Sideways: seems to be about omens and following them
sophia Placebo: it is said that a thoughtful person will learn from his last mistake , a wise man however would learn from others mistakes
Adams Rubble: sorry, phone call
Adams Rubble: I am back
Riddle Sideways: wb

sophia Placebo: *:::* WELCOME BACK *:::*
Riddle Sideways: ooooooo very nice
sophia Placebo: paholo choelo (sp?)

sophia Placebo: the author of alchemist
Riddle Sideways: oh thank you (I was going to edit the author in later)
Adams Rubble: thank you Sophia :)
Riddle Sideways: thank you sophia:)
sophia Placebo: yw :)
sophia Placebo: i read that novel , intersting really
Riddle Sideways: in an age when we have shortened things like"welcome back" to WB
Riddle Sideways: you expanded it
Adams Rubble: :)
sophia Placebo: :)
Riddle Sideways: I read about 40 pages then fell asleep
Riddle Sideways: it produced nice dreams
Adams Rubble: :)
sophia Placebo: i think i read it all in one session :)

Riddle Sideways: note: need to ask Maxine about dreams that happen while reading a book in bed
Riddle Sideways: not really night time asleep
Riddle Sideways: when the eyes close on a page
Riddle Sideways: but you don'tknow that they are closed
Adams Rubble: It is OK unless the eye falls on the edge of the page while turning the page
Riddle Sideways: hehehe
Riddle Sideways: paper cuts

Riddle Sideways: Sophia, I wonder about reading all in one session
Adams Rubble: I am afraid I must run now
Riddle Sideways: I don't do that much
sophia Placebo: bye adams
Adams Rubble: bye Sophia and Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: bye Adams

Riddle Sideways: I mostly read until a thoughtful place comes
sophia Placebo: niether i , though i used to be like that in my teens , but i read the alchemist in the trip in the bus -4 hour long
Riddle Sideways: good use of time
Riddle Sideways: I sometimes look out the window
Riddle Sideways: buses and trains pass interesting stuff
sophia Placebo: of my best places for a relaxed reading is a window seat

sophia Placebo: i guess i have this bad habit - im not sure if it is bad though- of not stoping reading to think about it , read it then think about and go back to the intesting lines i've read , or simply writing the qouets , which is a habit i didnt developed unfortunatly
Riddle Sideways: we call our repeated actions 'habits' then immediately judge good/bad
Riddle Sideways: need another word for repeated actions
Riddle Sideways: that doesn't bring up judgement
sophia Placebo: have no problem with judgment
Riddle Sideways: your and my reading styles are just different
Riddle Sideways: I have 42 books laying around with bookmarks in them
Riddle Sideways: you have a stack of yet to start books
sophia Placebo: i didnt count them but you might beat
Riddle Sideways: both excellent
Riddle Sideways: not to count the mountain of articles beside this desk here
sophia Placebo: hehe
Riddle Sideways: nor the audiable books in my car
Riddle Sideways: nor the browser bookmarks
Riddle Sideways: oh dear
sophia Placebo: thats alot of info
Riddle Sideways: some much to read, so little time
Riddle Sideways: some are info
Riddle Sideways: most are "that would be a nice read"
Riddle Sideways: *read
sophia Placebo: :)

Riddle Sideways: I think I shall try your way some day
sophia Placebo: i started to make a notebooks each for a set of questions or goals i have
Riddle Sideways: wonder when I will get 4 uninterrupted time
Riddle Sideways: ahhhh notebooks are good
sophia Placebo: they are
Riddle Sideways: until the notebook gets left at another place
Riddle Sideways: then a collection of napkins start
sophia Placebo: i dont right much quoets but the notebooks makes things easier , write your own interpritation and the page number of the book
Riddle Sideways: yes, that would work
Riddle Sideways: I was afraid that by the end of book I would have forgot the begginning quotes
sophia Placebo: the notebook is not a bout a book but a bout a subject or question you are intersted in , so you get back to that notebook everytime you have new insight or read new book
Riddle Sideways: those 9-second thoughts

sophia Placebo: that what i dont do , i guess im more generalist , so by the end of the book i formulated a general idea about it and leave the qoutes to publishing mood ie notebooks
Riddle Sideways: Adams is so good at blogging those thoughts
Riddle Sideways: Pema wants most of us to publish our thoughtts
Riddle Sideways: I might enjoy revisiting some of mine :)
sophia Placebo: :)
Riddle Sideways: you probably have a novel in yours
sophia Placebo: i didnt publish anything
sophia Placebo: certinaly not novels
Riddle Sideways: just string the thoughts and quotes from the notebooks together
Riddle Sideways: add narritive = novel
Riddle Sideways: so simple that I can't do it
Riddle Sideways: I will park my notebooks out in that field
Riddle Sideways: up on blocks
sophia Placebo: :) i should formulate a general idea first , i do that by reading or learning diffrent aspects of diffrent things
sophia Placebo: so the writing is to minimum
Riddle Sideways: a lot tobe said for top down or bottom up approaches
sophia Placebo: to be honest , i did this notebook thing so that i would remmber where i read certain thought , not much a writer myself
sophia Placebo: it takes a lot of time to express an idea
Riddle Sideways: yes, me too. Was just trying those ideas out
Riddle Sideways: well, RL is starting to get active
sophia Placebo: bye riddle , nice to meet you
Riddle Sideways: (kitty in my face)
Riddle Sideways: I had very nice time
sophia Placebo: :)