The Guardian for this meeting was Pema Pera. The comments are by Pema Pera.
Archmage Atlantis: Hello PemaAfter 48 hours of near continuous snow fall, the city was transformed in a kind of fairy tale landscape, but not so easy to move in quickly . . . so I was glad and grateful to hear that Eliza offered to take over the session.
Pema Pera: Hi Arch!
Archmage Atlantis: You are troubled, if my instinct is correct
Pema Pera: (sorry, my connection is very very slow .. . . am stuck in a restaurant in Manhattan in the snow . . . .)
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, but that is not the trouble
Archmage Atlantis: I have been stuck in snow also
Pema Pera: We have been completely snowed in here in Manhattan, after two days of continuous snow, so moving around has been slowed down
Pema Pera: alas, internet connection is very slow here in the restaurant, and I wasn't able to get home in time -- well, I'll see how far I can get -- hi Eliza!
Archmage Atlantis: Then it the trouble of how much we have mastered vs. how much can be?
Archmage Atlantis: Hello Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Pema, Arch :)
Pema Pera: Eliza, I was just explaining how Eiko and I got stuck in a restaurant, quite a nice one though, not able to get home in time :-)
Eliza Madrigal: Arch you are quite blue, tonight :)
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, no fun to have to eat and type....
Archmage Atlantis: I was dead.....I returned........alway stay blue each time that happens
Pema Pera: after our marathan session earlier about Malta, we had to get back from Princeton to New York, which took a loooong time, and then getting around in Manhattan was slow too . . . .
Eliza Madrigal: can take the session if you like ... am wide awake :)I'll leave the rest of the chat log uncommented, after I dropped out at this point.
Pema Pera: oh, thank you, that would be very nice!
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Pema Pera: wish I could share the red azuki beans desert with both of you . . . . .
Archmage Atlantis: Generous of you Eliza......I sense Pema needs that
Eliza Madrigal: No worries... enjoy your night :)
Pema Pera: thank you so much!
Eliza Madrigal: my pleasure :) Ah... Arch coming back to life....
Pema Pera: well, I'll sign out then
Pema Pera: goobye both of you!
Archmage Atlantis: This version 999999.11
Eliza Madrigal: Hasta Manana Pema :)
Pema Pera: I've claimed thelog already, Eliza, so I'll post it
Eliza Madrigal needs the little spanish 'n'ye
Eliza Madrigal: Okay sure :)
Archmage Atlantis: Pema, you are cheating
Archmage Atlantis: Running away
Pema Pera: cheating?
Pema Pera: okay, bfn !
Pema Pera: veeeerrrrryyyy sloooow cheating with my limited bandwidth :-)
Eliza Madrigal waves and smiles
Pema Pera: (lines out of order, oh well)
Pema Pera: sleep well !
Eliza Madrigal: So how are you doing tonight Arch?
--BELL--
Archmage Atlantis: I came back to here...tho I would have preferred to go lose myself in dance clubs
Eliza Madrigal: felt pulled to pab again?
Archmage Atlantis: I changed my aspect to be as I am expected to be
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, this being SL feel free to display as you feel .. the blue is pretty.... :)
Archmage Atlantis: Is that a topic?
Eliza Madrigal: Not in particular...
Eliza Madrigal: Were I to choose a topic tonight I'd choose apapb...
Eliza Madrigal: Have you attended some of the discussions about that exploration?
Archmage Atlantis: Ok, apapb then...first give me the words that go to create that
Eliza Madrigal: appreciate the presence of appearance as a presentation of/by being
Archmage Atlantis: Many soft words in that......
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, soft words... how nice. Say more?
Archmage Atlantis: We hide our inner selves in soft words
Eliza Madrigal: sometimes, yes... we do...
Archmage Atlantis: They, as clothes and hairstyle are a mask
Eliza Madrigal: they can be... as can hard words...
Eliza Madrigal: Some of the most sensitive people I know are quite verbally sharp at times
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, but I do trust hard words more
Eliza Madrigal: they seem more real to you?
Archmage Atlantis: Yes
Eliza Madrigal: I can understand that...
Archmage Atlantis: Babies need real food eventually...otherwise they remain babies
Eliza Madrigal: though maybe not relate too well. It seems 'we' spend our days in such sharp environments... constantly knocked around by traffic, people in stores, etc...
Eliza Madrigal: so nice to be allowed to be soft at times
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, agree
Eliza Madrigal: Ah... well there I see a different point... Yes re not staying in pablum land :)
Archmage Atlantis: This world, it is not one I was trained for
Eliza Madrigal: In what way?
Archmage Atlantis: Still, I was taught by a family of teachers
Archmage Atlantis: In what way, let me think
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Alexandre, Welcome to PlayasBeing :)
Eliza Madrigal: Sure Arch, take your time :)
Archmage Atlantis: To not go in the colored bathroos. to walk on the street side of a woman to prevent her from any stuff the horses and cars tossed up
Archmage Atlantis: That was my childhood world
Eliza Madrigal: Well thank goodness for some changes in the world collectively, Arch, and in worlds individually ....
Eliza Madrigal: We can keep some of those things... gentleman-ness for instance :)
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: I live a life quite different from the one I was raised in, especially as concerns the way I have parented my children
Archmage Atlantis: From that I learned our children have an opportunity to live in another world.....as long as they believe it is possible/
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Archmage Atlantis: I also have learned that our story is important......back to the first cave paintings, the first songs, the first poems;
Eliza Madrigal: hm... like basics...
Archmage Atlantis: yes
Eliza Madrigal: There was a major earthquake in Chili today... reminded me of a friend in highschool, a very devout person, who said when he saw the pope there, that he prayed for me...
Eliza Madrigal: though not catholic, it meant a lot to me, because I knew what it meant to him...
Eliza Madrigal: I suppose that's a story about sharing in between space, in a way...
Archmage Atlantis: There is a belief I have in a Creator...........I summarize it this way
Eliza Madrigal listens
Archmage Atlantis: No Creator = free for all
Archmage Atlantis: Creator not interested = free for all, with occasional intrusion
Eliza Madrigal: hehe.. creator as dice thrower?
Eliza Madrigal: benign neglect?
Archmage Atlantis: Creator = we are to evolve with that being
Eliza Madrigal: Well that's an interesting idea Arch....
Eliza Madrigal: not straying so far from those who see 'creator' as potential...
Archmage Atlantis: Not particularly fitting in a belief system.....that gives comfort in stability
Eliza Madrigal nods... true.. belief systems themselves don't seem to give much stability either... do they...
Eliza Madrigal: still something constructed?
Archmage Atlantis: Not that I have found, no, but I do find they contain some good data, and analysis of that data
Eliza Madrigal nods, yes.... and point to something more...
Archmage Atlantis: yes
Eliza Madrigal: like the sincerity of affection of my friend praying for me
Eliza Madrigal: Real :)
Archmage Atlantis: That is a good summary
Eliza Madrigal: Thank you. We often seem to understand each other, Arch :)
Archmage Atlantis: This knowing is not of the mind
Archmage Atlantis: Not even of the heart
Archmage Atlantis: It is beyond
Eliza Madrigal: :)
--BELL--
Archmage Atlantis: Of course the fact that I like "Lady Gaga" would probably not endear me to the local pastors *g* - especially at my age
Eliza Madrigal: hahah... not sure of your age, but I find her quite talented... provoking at times
Archmage Atlantis: provoking....with talent - another good summary
Eliza Madrigal: yes... for me it is the difference between an artist and pop star
Eliza Madrigal: her visuals are often disturbing... and yet the music itself 'fun'
Archmage Atlantis: The artist vs. pop star - that comment makes me think
Archmage Atlantis: In my younger days, a pop star by definition was not an artist
Eliza Madrigal: I think some called 'artist' who just mass produce things and push the buttons popular at the moment... might well better be called pop stars...
Archmage Atlantis: Yet music now sees some pop stars as artists
Eliza Madrigal: its funny how much repetition we live with, too
Archmage Atlantis: They pushed the buttons (good metaphor btw) but added something more
Eliza Madrigal: hm, something more?
Archmage Atlantis: If you would like my definition of that
Eliza Madrigal: yes I think so...
Archmage Atlantis: then, part of their souls......not just lustful or mindless desire
Eliza Madrigal: Nice! That in itself seems provoking...
Archmage Atlantis: I thank you for seeing that.......to me that is what seeing is
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: btw, I think we've been appreciating :)) hehehe....
--BELL--
Archmage Atlantis: I have to return home......thank you for this oranizing session
Archmage Atlantis: *organizing
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Arch :)
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