2010.04.06 13:00 - procrastination

The Guardian for this meeting was Lia Rikugun. The comments are by Lia Rikugun.

Darren Islar: hi Lia
Lia Rikugun: hello :)
Lia Rikugun: hello darrenb hello zon
Zon Quar: sometimes it takes a minute
Zon Quar: hi Lia
Zon Quar: and not in right order
Darren Islar: yea and then your time is up
Darren Islar: and you get logged off
Lia Rikugun: hello alfred
Alfred Kelberry: oi :)
Zon Quar: alfred
Darren Islar: hi Alf
Alfred Kelberry notes lia's cute pinky tail :)
Lia Rikugun: hehe
Lia Rikugun: for the case an onigok ko might come up :)
Lia Rikugun: always prepared
Zon Quar: i dont even see all
Lia Rikugun: oink oink!
Alfred Kelberry: quack quack :)
Lia Rikugun: :P
Alfred Kelberry: seen wol around?
Lia Rikugun: how are you all today?
Lia Rikugun: no sorry alf
Alfred Kelberry: i'm alright. was late for science circle though.
Lia Rikugun: is this in SL too?

Alfred Kelberry: em, when is the pab meeting in cali?
Lia Rikugun: what is science circle?
Alfred Kelberry: nymf's science circle
Alfred Kelberry: it's in sl
Lia Rikugun: oh ok
Lia Rikugun: 18th to 24th of april is the retreat
Alfred Kelberry: ok, thanks
Lia Rikugun: http://playasbeing.wik.is/PaB_Retreats/2010-04_California
Alfred Kelberry: are you coming?
Lia Rikugun: here is the link
Darren Islar: hey where is Zon?
Lia Rikugun: i would love to :)
Alfred Kelberry: he's gone
Lia Rikugun: how about you guys
Darren Islar: crashed
Darren Islar: how about what?
Lia Rikugun: are you going to san francisco fpor the retreat?
Darren Islar: no
Lia Rikugun: oh
Lia Rikugun: well we always have SL ;)
Darren Islar: :-)
Lia Rikugun: welcome back zon!
Darren Islar: wb
Zon Quar: hope i am back
Lia Rikugun: alfred will you be there?
Darren Islar: yes you are
Darren Islar: a bit grey though
Zon Quar: crossing fingers
Alfred Kelberry: heh, i like wol's comment on the site :)
Alfred Kelberry: nope
Lia Rikugun: :)
Lia Rikugun: oh so sad
Alfred Kelberry: silly air travel
Lia Rikugun: you are afraid of air travel?
Lia Rikugun: or too far away?
Alfred Kelberry: no, it's about wol's comment :)
Alfred Kelberry: one days saves you 1580 euros :)
Lia Rikugun: thats crazy, :) so always worth checking all the dates
Alfred Kelberry: yep

Darren Islar: hey Fox
Darren Islar: don't you need to be at Kira?
Zon Quar: fox
Fox Monacular: Hello everyone, sorry I'll have to leave for the dream workshop
Fox Monacular: yes, exactly
Fox Monacular: this was the last place I logged out:)
Darren Islar: have fun
Darren Islar: ah
Fox Monacular: have a good session everyone
Alfred Kelberry: it's not like 30 euros from amsterdam to copenhagen :)
Alfred Kelberry: oi, foxy
Darren Islar: forgot bout the dreamworkshop
Lia Rikugun: is it at the same time now?
Alfred Kelberry: oh, dream workshop! i think i'll go there
Darren Islar: I'm going to have a lok
Darren Islar: yes, I'm afraid so
Alfred Kelberry: you coming lia? :)
Lia Rikugun: ok maybe see you later
Lia Rikugun: hm i am guardian here :)
Darren Islar: can somebody give me an lm for Kira?
Lia Rikugun: so maybe i should stay a bit
Alfred Kelberry: ah, ok then. sorry :)
Alfred Kelberry: one sec, darren
Lia Rikugun: done :)
Lia Rikugun: kira cafe
Lia Rikugun: i hopüe it is there
Darren Islar: thanks lia
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Lia Rikugun: ok have fun
Alfred Kelberry: thanks, you too

Lia Rikugun: so zon it is the two of us now :)
Zon Quar: oh sry. i was distarcted
Zon Quar: my text
Zon Quar: is coming
Zon Quar: slowly
Lia Rikugun: hey wol
Wol Euler: hello lia, zon
--BELL--
Zon Quar: does anyone
Zon Quar: hi
Zon Quar: or is it only me
Zon Quar: have same problem
Lia Rikugun: i dont have such problems today
Lia Rikugun: for me it is normal
Wol Euler: what was your problem, zon?
Lia Rikugun: he can only write very slowly
Zon Quar: my typing
Lia Rikugun: and he had to relog as well
Wol Euler: huh
Zon Quar: comes in wrong order
Zon Quar: and slowly
Wol Euler: no, never heard of that happening
Lia Rikugun: i had this already but few months ago
Wol Euler: um, go to the Help menu and select "lag meter"
Lia Rikugun: never knew what the reason was :)
Lia Rikugun: wow my client is red
Zon Quar: did u down load new vierwe ?
Wol Euler: zon?
Lia Rikugun: client frame rate below 10!!
Lia Rikugun: no i have the old one
Wol Euler: I'm using Emerald, so not a v2
Lia Rikugun: oh and now network yellow
Lia Rikugun: interesting the lag meter!!
Wol Euler: :)
Lia Rikugun: thank swol
Wol Euler: yw
Lia Rikugun: hey and we can see your red shirt now zon!
Lia Rikugun: or i can at least
Wol Euler: yes, just rezzed for me too
Zon Quar: perhaps the new viewer slows things down
Wol Euler: it didn'T for me, at least not in and of itself.
Zon Quar: so then it must be my pc
Wol Euler: sounds more like your home network is slow, or your PC is busy
Wol Euler: right click on the blue bar along the bottom of the screen, choose "task manager"
Wol Euler: go to the fourth tab, probably called somthing like "performance"
Zon Quar: uhhuh
Wol Euler: how's the cpu load?
Zon Quar: hm it shows 97 %
Wol Euler: well, no wonder :)
Zon Quar: ?
Zon Quar: ?
Wol Euler: your machine is as busy as hell.
Zon Quar: okie
Wol Euler: how's the memory usage (the rectangle with green bars below CPU load)
Zon Quar: straight blue line ?
Wol Euler: left of that
Wol Euler: stack of green lines
Zon Quar: 1,48 gt
Wol Euler: and is that about half green, or mostly green, or low?
Zon Quar: half
Wol Euler: well, the cpu load is the problem then. Your computer is too busy doing other stuff to give SL as much attention as it needs
Zon Quar: ok, i shut things down then
Lia Rikugun: ups he left?
Wol Euler: I guess he's going to clean up and reboot

Lia Rikugun: so how have you been wol?
Wol Euler: pretty well, thanks. Things are much quieter in the office now
Wol Euler: only 10.5 hours today :)))
Lia Rikugun: puh!!
Lia Rikugun: so much
Lia Rikugun: thats good
Lia Rikugun: my text is mixed up too
Lia Rikugun: came in the wrong order
Lia Rikugun: you will be going to san francisco right?
Wol Euler: yes indeed!
Wol Euler: really looking forward to it
Lia Rikugun: wow thats great!!
Lia Rikugun: say hi to everybody :)
Wol Euler smiles. Will do.
--BELL--
Wol Euler: I got a wonderful present for Easter: "Oh, wie s
Wol Euler: oh wie schoen ist panama :)
Lia Rikugun: the book?
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Wol Euler: it's wonderful
Lia Rikugun: tigerente? no wait what was this again?
Wol Euler: the bear and the tiger set out to find Panama, the land where everything smells like bananas
Lia Rikugun: oh yes
Wol Euler smiles
Lia Rikugun: i rememberd the duck on wheels :)
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Lia Rikugun: haha
Lia Rikugun: how nice
Lia Rikugun: so you celebrated easter and got presents! wonderful!
Lia Rikugun: did you have to search your presents first :)
Wol Euler: heheheh, yes, they were hidden in the garden
Lia Rikugun: hehehe
Wol Euler: I was in the Black Forest with my boss and his family, at his parents' house

Wol Euler: his son is keen on finding things, but hasn't yet really grasped that some presents are not for him :)
Wol Euler: he opens everyrhing he finds
Lia Rikugun: haha, most of the fun is to open the presents i guess
Wol Euler: oh, yes, opening seems to be much more fun than having the contents, judging by his actions
Lia Rikugun: the curiosity
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Wol Euler: the potential
Lia Rikugun: how nice that you could celebret with your boss
Wol Euler: like Schroedinger's cat :)
Wol Euler: one hopes it's alive, but either state is less exciting than not knowing which it is
Lia Rikugun: hehe
Lia Rikugun: yes

Wol Euler: have you always had that single earring, Lia?
Lia Rikugun: hm i only have one earring?
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Lia Rikugun: i thought i had two ;)
Wol Euler: for me at least
Lia Rikugun: HAHA letr me check!
Wol Euler: perhaps that's lag, because your blouse is still grey
Lia Rikugun: ups where did it go?
Wol Euler smiles.
Lia Rikugun: hm confusing confusing
Lia Rikugun: i must have lost it, but where?
Wol Euler: it should still be in your inventory somewhere
Lia Rikugun: :) lets see
Lia Rikugun: HA
Lia Rikugun: i found it
Wol Euler cheers!
Lia Rikugun: cheers
Wol Euler: :)
Wol Euler: skol!
Lia Rikugun: i had a weizenbeer before :) we had great weather here today, so waht else should i have done :)
Lia Rikugun: hick!
Wol Euler: mmhmm
--BELL--
Lia Rikugun: wow cool stuff i have here
Wol Euler: :)
Lia Rikugun: i had an interesting experience yesterday
Wol Euler: mmm?
Lia Rikugun: where i went to my happy place and everything was so confusing
Wol Euler: huh
Wol Euler: why? what was different there?
Lia Rikugun: as if no ordinary rules were being applied
Lia Rikugun: but different realities at the same time
Lia Rikugun: depending on my perspective or my choice

Lia Rikugun: hello ara
Wol Euler: hello ara
arabella Ella: Hiya Lia, Wol!
Lia Rikugun: how have you been ara?
arabella Ella: i am fine thanks I was in Spain last week for a vacation, enjoyed it lots!
Wol Euler: very nice
arabella Ella: How are you Lia?
Lia Rikugun: how nice!
arabella Ella: and Wol?
Lia Rikugun: oh good thank you, tired :)
arabella Ella: owwwww
Lia Rikugun: we made a video today at work
arabella Ella: a RL or SL video?
Lia Rikugun: was pretty interesting with a professional film team
arabella Ella: cool
Wol Euler: wow
Lia Rikugun: i am laggy sorry..)
arabella Ella: did you play a major role in the video?
arabella Ella: and was it a promotional one?
arabella Ella: i am very laggy tonite too ... last night Ara crashed three times!
Lia Rikugun: i just screamed "CUUUUT" and "Take number 256"
Lia Rikugun: :P
arabella Ella: :)
Wol Euler: :)
arabella Ella: i have been involved in the past in organising some videos and the shooting is good fun ... the editing later can be tedious
Lia Rikugun: it was a video about a project i helped working on with a colleague of mine
arabella Ella: how lovely
arabella Ella: well done!
Wol Euler nods.
Lia Rikugun: it was great to see the camera team work and see what they are interested in
arabella Ella: did it give you a slightly different perspective on the topic Lia?
arabella Ella: seeing it from their point of view i mean?
Lia Rikugun: we have been talking to them for several months now for the story board, so this already happenend somehow, but that was also good, to understand how things have to be presented so that they are understandable
Wol Euler nods
arabella Ella: yes
Lia Rikugun: understandable to everybody with no background in the project
arabella Ella: yes and yet brief too ... i mean a short message in simple words
Lia Rikugun: makes the communication skills better :)
arabella Ella: oh yes
Lia Rikugun: yes breif is better
--BELL--
Lia Rikugun: the video will be 4 to 5 minutes
Lia Rikugun: and it took us a whole day ;)
arabella Ella: that's normal ... and it takes hours to edit too!
Lia Rikugun: yes and all the previous work ;)
Lia Rikugun: a lot i learned so i am happy :)

arabella Ella: Now if i may ask a question on another topic ...
Wol Euler: :)
arabella Ella: how do you two deal with problems of procrastination?
arabella Ella: (which seems to be a very common human trait)
Lia Rikugun: haha
Wol Euler: :)
arabella Ella: #any magic tips?
Wol Euler: I usually let it happen. I'm fortunate that my work is largely self-directed
Wol Euler: so I view the urge to procrastinate as a sign that I am not ready to do X
Lia Rikugun: i am making a todo list
Wol Euler: so I just let it mature.
arabella Ella: mmmmmmmm
Lia Rikugun: and am soo happy when i can put things away
Wol Euler: one day, sooner or later, I'll feel an urge to do it, and on that day it is suddenly very easy and obviuos what to do.
arabella Ella is thinking ....
Lia Rikugun: i am soory, will have to leave, was somehow tiring for me today and its bedtime :)
Wol Euler: goodnight lia, sweet dreams
Lia Rikugun: have a good night sleep

arabella Ella: yes of course Lia, well done though I am so pleased to hear it all went well, good nite!
arabella Ella: So Wol, if you dont mind ... self directed work and procrastination ...
Wol Euler: mmhmm
arabella Ella: how do you then manage to bring in some self discipline?
Wol Euler: well, it's not as simple as that brief description
arabella Ella: yes ... although I can relate to what you said
arabella Ella: but then deadlines or responsibilities or whatever enter the picture too
arabella Ella: and TIME
Wol Euler: I balance the "waiting for inspiration to hit" moments with some hard work when it does
Wol Euler: and there are always tasks to be done "beside" the thing that I am procrastinating about
arabella Ella: yes i can relate with that too ... mmmm
Wol Euler: for example, I have a mental list of about twenty things that need to be done sometime fairly soon on the current project
Wol Euler: and I know roughly which have to happen first
arabella Ella: then there is also the paradox about Time ... relaxation ... waste of time ... using time properly ... etc
Wol Euler: so I make a deal with myself. I'm only allowed to procrastinate on one thing at a time.
arabella Ella: he he
arabella Ella: I like that attitude
Wol Euler: if I am procrastinating on X then I *must* do either Y or Z
Wol Euler: and I choose the one that has the least resistance
arabella Ella: fantastic idea
arabella Ella: yes
arabella Ella: like doing the easiest stuff on a to do list first i guess
Wol Euler: this resistance is a kind of intuition, I think. It means that I am missing something to deal properly with the problem
arabella Ella: yes i guess it is
Wol Euler: be it time, or a fact, or an answer from some other part of the project that I might not even consciuosly know is related
arabella Ella: like when we dont reply to emails immediately ... it is often the case that we dont have a simply answer
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: I talk about letting myself procrastinate, but I am actually very disciplined when I do work.
Wol Euler: it balances.,
arabella Ella: yes ... what i find difficult sometimes when i start on a new project is the time it takes me to focus on the new topic
arabella Ella: to 'get into it'
Wol Euler nods.
arabella Ella: once i get going it is fine and as you said ... then one can be very disciplined
Wol Euler: so tell yourself that the lead-in time is valuable and significant.
Wol Euler: when you have to make someting in the kitchen, do you just jump straight in and throw things at the stove?
arabella Ella: yes ... and i could also take your advice ... procrastinate on one thing and get something else done
arabella Ella: he he
Wol Euler: or do you rather clean up the counters and check that you ahve all ingredients and tools ready?
Wol Euler: hello pema, eliza
arabella Ella: would be nice if i could just wave a magic wand in the kitchen and
arabella Ella: and find everything done in a jiffy
Wol Euler: oh darren, sorry, I thought you were a friend :)
Darren Islar: hi everyone
Wol Euler: same trousers :)
arabella Ella: Hiya Darren, Eliza
Wol Euler: aaaaaah :)))))
Darren Islar: I hope I am
Wol Euler grins
Darren Islar: :-)
arabella Ella: ehrm ... seems like another paradox here ... he he
Darren Islar: am I interrupting something?
Wol Euler: no, just an Appearance by Being :)
Wol Euler: (to ara)
arabella Ella: he he
Wol Euler: we were talking about procrastination and intuition, darren
arabella Ella: no Darren you are not interrupting anything
Darren Islar: procrastination, need my dictionary
Wol Euler: putting off doing something
arabella Ella: means putting off something you have to do even if it needs to be done
Wol Euler: hesitating, delaying
arabella Ella: especially if the deadline is not too close
--BELL--
Darren Islar: right
Wol Euler: not the same as being lazy, there is a difference
Darren Islar: ah, ok
arabella Ella: yes ... although laziness may be related sometimes to procrastination
Darren Islar: it is more like being costious
Darren Islar: coustious
arabella Ella: or like saying 'yes i will do it ... later ... over and over
arabella Ella: you mean 'cautious'
Wol Euler: a procrastinator is thinking about work, s/he just isn't doing any. A lazy person is thinking about holidays or feeding the cat
arabella Ella: he he
Darren Islar: yes cautious, had no idea how to write it :-)
arabella Ella: it was easy to understand the way you wrote it
Darren Islar: a thanks for the explanation
Wol Euler: yw
Darren Islar: I hoped so ara, because I knew it wasn't right :-)
arabella Ella smiles
Wol Euler: hello mick
Darren Islar: hi Mick
arabella Ella: I sometimes wonder why procrastination brings on guilt feelings ... could it be due to the sense of 'wasting time' I wonder?
arabella Ella: Hiya Mick
arabella Ella: and is procrastination a natural human tendency?
Mickorod Renard: is it really wasting time?
Darren Islar: well, i still sounds like some kind of laziness
Mickorod Renard: maybe its doing what your body and mind want to do
Darren Islar: you want to do the right thing but getting nowhere
arabella Ella: yes ... he he
arabella Ella: and the connection to laziness ... i could procrastinate by saying to myself ... i am tired i need sleep or a siesta or whatever
Darren Islar: hmmm, rethinking it, maybe we shouldn't be feel so guilty about it, maybe better to become aware what is holding you back
Wol Euler: mmhmm
arabella Ella: Wol gave some good indication of what could hold us back
Darren Islar: easier said then done though
arabella Ella: like insufficient information or not yet being ready for doing something
Mickorod Renard: it would be unfair to be self critical over it if you are fatigued
arabella Ella: well ... much easier said than done
Darren Islar: yes not being ready sounds very familiar
Darren Islar: but most of the time I start of feeling guilty and then later on find out I wasn't ready
Darren Islar: frustrating
Darren Islar: :-)
arabella Ella: :)
Wol Euler nos
Wol Euler: *nods
arabella Ella: i guess procrastination could also come about due to our not being motivated enough to do certain tasks, ranging from simple tasks such as doing the dishes, to report writing or strategy or whatever
arabella Ella: not lack of motivation but not sufficient motivation
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Darren Islar: yes I suppose you're right Mick, but sometimes I can fatigue mistaken by laziness and the other way around
arabella Ella nods to Darren
Darren Islar: I think motivation it vital here
arabella Ella: it could be an easy cop out to say we are tired when we dont feel like doing something ... which must be done
Darren Islar: right
Mickorod Renard: procrastination is often more work than the job needing doing
Darren Islar: can you say more Mick?
Wol Euler: very true, mick :)
Mickorod Renard: I was thinking for example,,like if you need to hand in an assignment
arabella Ella: depends on what the job involves Mick ... could be a resolve to keep fit ... and one may procrastinate
Mickorod Renard: the stress and worry over leaving it and leaving it is hard
arabella Ella: deadlines help to avoid procrastination
Darren Islar thinks this is the best dictionary I ever looked into :-)
Darren Islar: *he
Darren Islar: and takes up more energy then just doing it
Mickorod Renard: I have things I love to do,,but sometimes casnnot get motivated for some trivial reason
Darren Islar: I'm afraid I'm very familiar to that :-)
arabella Ella: could it be push and pull factors ... like what do i stand to gain from this ... or does that sound too ... I dunno ... too egoistic?
Mickorod Renard: like I love riding my motorcycles,,but cos its cold I cannot drive myself to put on all the clothing
Darren Islar: I guess to me it is more like having the right energy
Darren Islar: but sometimes it turns out you can better do it because it is giving you the right energy
--BELL--
Darren Islar: and I think egoism is part of us :-)
arabella Ella nods
Mickorod Renard: brb
Darren Islar: my teacher once said, everything we do we do out of egoism, so lets skip that and talk about doing the right thing
arabella Ella: he he
arabella Ella: i like that
arabella Ella: skip the crap ...
arabella Ella: just move on and DO IT
Darren Islar: you can use negative emotions to do the right thing
Darren Islar: it is not the best way, but it is better then doing the wrong thing wiht the wrong motivation
Darren Islar: just get started
arabella Ella: yes
arabella Ella: but i guess the question arises ... how can we motivate ourselves more to avoid procrastinating?
Darren Islar: and now getting myself out of bed every morning :-)
arabella Ella: oh yes ... i hate mornings
Darren Islar: :-)
Darren Islar: well I'm afraid my teacher has an answer to that too
arabella Ella listens
Mickorod Renard: bac
Wol Euler: mmm?
Darren Islar: get you're lazy but moving
arabella Ella: wb Mick
arabella Ella: ??
Darren Islar: he used different words though
arabella Ella: could you say that again Darren as i did not understand?
Mickorod Renard: had to have a pee,,coulnt procrastinate over it any longer
Mickorod Renard: :)
Darren Islar: I think procrastination to buddhists is the same as laziness
Darren Islar: like having to do a lot of other things before doing the right thing
arabella Ella: yes
Darren Islar: I mean, we are always busy
Darren Islar: with social contacts, partyin, but also serious reading can be laziness
arabella Ella: yes there is always something to be done
arabella Ella: did you say serious reading can be laziness?
Darren Islar: everything can be
Darren Islar: yes :-)
Darren Islar: my lines show up in different order
arabella Ella: some of my lines done show up at all :(
Darren Islar: hmm, so it isn't me
Darren Islar: what a chatlag
arabella Ella: let's simply blame the system
Darren Islar: yes, let's do that :-)
Wol Euler: :)
arabella Ella: but what you said about buddhism, procrastination and laziness is interesting
Darren Islar: I read that ll has a lot of problems with the overwhelming number of accounts
Mickorod Renard: it is interesting that some people choose to do the wrong thing,,knowingly,,because its easier than doing the right thing
Wol Euler nods.
Darren Islar: don't understand that because that is lower then it used to be
arabella Ella: yes around a year ago there used to be 80K people on line at any one time then it suddenly went down
Darren Islar: or the viewer also takes up a lot of memory on the server
arabella Ella: i dont know much about technicalities
Darren Islar: maybe Wol knows :-)
arabella Ella: possibly
Wol Euler: :)
Wol Euler: it's more likely that the new viewer, being new, is not yet optimized
Wol Euler: whereas the old viewer, being older, had had most of its bugs beaten out of it
Darren Islar: yes, but I'm now on emerald
Darren Islar: .
Wol Euler: well, then, I'd guess it is plain old lag :)
arabella Ella: how do the old viewer and the new viewer synch together in the system Wol since they work in tandem?
Darren Islar: that is a good very technical explanation :-)
Wol Euler: well, they don't really "synch" ara. The server is (at least in theory) viewer-agnostic, it will supply data to any system that asks for it
arabella Ella: ah ok
Wol Euler: but the new viewer requires more and different resources, above and beyond what the old one was receiving
Wol Euler: the whole prim media story, for example
arabella Ella: i like that description 'viewer agnostic' ... sweet way of putting it
Darren Islar: true, my new viewer is slower
Darren Islar: but never had these problems with the emerald
--BELL--
Darren Islar: :-) ara
Wol Euler: well, it need not be the fault of your viewer
Wol Euler: might be the computer itself, or your router, or any one of the dozen or more computers that handled this kilobyte of data on its way from California to you
arabella Ella: could it be the bandwidth in the country where you are located?
Darren Islar: ah, now I know :-)
Mickorod Renard: I am heading home now,,thanks for the chat
Darren Islar: bye Mick
arabella Ella: nite Mick
Wol Euler: goodnight mick, take care
Darren Islar: .
Mickorod Renard: nite nite,,and you
arabella Ella: i must go too ... good nite!
Darren Islar: nite ara
Wol Euler: goodnight ara, take care
Darren Islar: you use a mac too Wol?
Wol Euler: for most things, yes, but for SL since about four months I'm on Windows 7
Darren Islar: ah okay
Wol Euler: had to buy a new winbox for work, so I made sure it had a super graphics card :)
Darren Islar: :-)
Darren Islar: did you experience any problems with the voice using headphones when you were still on the mac?
Wol Euler: none that I don'
Wol Euler: none that I don't still experience on Windows.
Darren Islar: because sometimes I can't get a connection with voice with my headphones, hearing all the sounds, but not the voice
Darren Islar: is that similar to your experience?
Wol Euler: the SL client sometimes doesn't connect to teh voice server, that happens.
Wol Euler: switching it off and on again in the preferences usually solves that
Darren Islar: ah ok
Darren Islar: I can try to use that, you need to find the right trick with these kind of things
Wol Euler nods
Wol Euler: asking is a good start :)
Darren Islar: :-)
Wol Euler: somebody told me taht trick
Darren Islar: well a friend of mine don't have any problems at all
Darren Islar: so we have been searching for the answer
Darren Islar: yes, that is a very good trick :-)
Darren Islar: we thought we found it, and now I have the same problem again
Wol Euler: heh
Darren Islar: and now I have his problems with this chatlag and lines turning up in the wrong order
Darren Islar: we call that a wimpie-problem
Wol Euler: that is a network problem, packets are gtting lost or delayed
Wol Euler: there's very little you can do about that other htan restarting your modem
Darren Islar: sounds reasonable
Darren Islar: ah, yes off course
Darren Islar: I mean plausible
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Darren Islar: it doesn't help wimpie though :-)
Wol Euler: :)
Darren Islar: so how was your first working day?
--BELL--
Wol Euler: not bad at all. I'd rather not have been working, to be honest, but it was OK
Darren Islar: maybe you needed some more time off
Wol Euler: Ido.
Darren Islar: well the retreat is coming up
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Wol Euler: I'm really looking forward to that.
Darren Islar: I can imagine :-)
Darren Islar: San Fancisco
Wol Euler smiles
Darren Islar: not written propparly
Wol Euler: poor SF, it has a terribly high reputation to live up to
Wol Euler: it's bound to be disappointing :)
Darren Islar: :-)
Darren Islar: but actually you don't know
Wol Euler: of course :)
Darren Islar: and you're doing a retreat, with friends, so.....
Wol Euler: oh yes, I meant the city is bound to disappoint compared to its reputation :)
Wol Euler: the retreat will be great, I am sure of that
Darren Islar: I understood
Darren Islar: but I meant it is only a small part of what you are going to do
Wol Euler nods
Wol Euler: I have a list of galleries and museums and suchlike
Wol Euler: and I must visit an Apple store and get my hands on an iPad :)
Darren Islar: hahah
Darren Islar: they are not available yet in europe
Wol Euler: end of april in Germany
Darren Islar: oh
Darren Islar: i started wondering what Darren was typing, because I wasn;t
Darren Islar: feels like he is starting to act on its own :-)
Wol Euler: :)
Darren Islar: would be exciting, just see what he comes up with
Darren Islar: I need to go, I'm the GoC tomorrow morning, and that is pretty early to me :-)
Darren Islar: Darren, stop typing
Wol Euler grins and nods
Wol Euler: goodnight darren, take care. It was nice meeting you
Darren Islar: ah, yes, need to ask, do you like him?
Darren Islar: he will be around for a while
Wol Euler smiles. He looks good :)
Darren Islar: great