2010.05.16 08:00 - Guardian Session: Dreamlets

This week's Guardian meeting was attended by Agatha Macbeth, Bleu Oleander, Calvino Rabeni, Eden Haiku, Lucinda Lavender, Maxine Walden, Riddle Sideways, SophiaSharon Larnia, Stevenaia Michinaga, Yakuzza Lethecus and Zen Arado.  Aggers posted the session from her chat log.

Agatha Macbeth: Hi Cal, Max
Maxine Walden: hi, Agatha, Cal
Calvino Rabeni: Hello Ag and Max
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Licinda
Agatha Macbeth: Or Lucinda even
Lucinda Lavender: Hello!
Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni yawns, looks around somewhat dully
Calvino Rabeni: Not a morning person :)
Agatha Macbeth: Me either
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Yaku :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: you haven´t had that much sleep either cal
Calvino Rabeni: so des
Lucinda Lavender: I have just had an extra bit of sleep...first in a while...:)
Agatha Macbeth: Sleep never hurt anyone :)
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Yaku
Yakuzza Lethecus: hi bleu,eden
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Bleu
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Edie :)
Bleu Oleander: hi everyone :)
Eden Haiku: Good morning :)
Bleu Oleander: hi Eden
Agatha Macbeth: My God Bleu, is that really you? :))
Agatha Macbeth: Wow
Bleu Oleander: i thought you wouldn't notice
Agatha Macbeth: How could I miss?
Eden Haiku: She is here incognito :)
Agatha Macbeth: Well she's certainly here in something ;-)
Bleu Oleander: left over from sat night
Agatha Macbeth: Really cute, what is it exactly?
Bleu Oleander: good questions
Eden Haiku: The blue eyes sahdow is so beautiful Bleu, and the feathers!
Bleu Oleander: ty Eden
Agatha Macbeth: Has a kinda Native American feel to it
Bleu Oleander: just playing around
Agatha Macbeth likes that a lot
Bleu Oleander: got back from NYC and have some new textures to play with
Eden Haiku: I think you made it yourself Bleu amirite?
Agatha Macbeth: It goes really well with the skin
Maxine Walden: sorry, have been reading Pema's drop day report. Sent out this morning
Eden Haiku: Yes, a wonderful report he wrote.
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Steve
Bleu Oleander: hey Steve
Maxine Walden: hi, Steve
stevenaia Michinaga: hello, and I standing on anyone?
Agatha Macbeth: Not yet
Bleu Oleander: close
Eden Haiku: "Isn'it all made of time?" Pema asks in his report.
Bleu Oleander: any issues today?
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Zen :)
Bleu Oleander: hey Zen
Bleu Oleander: hi Sharon
Agatha Macbeth: And hello SSL :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi everyone :)
Maxine Walden: hi, Zen and Sharon
Zen Arado: Hi Everyone
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Agatha Macbeth: WB Edie, did you crash?
Eden Haiku: hum... still a cloud :)
Agatha Macbeth: 'I wandered lonely as a cloud...'
Eden Haiku: Sorry...
Zen Arado: no you're solid
Calvino Rabeni: "Until I ran into a bunch of daffodils"
SophiaSharon Larnia: is this your first Guardian meeting Lucinda?
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Lucinda Lavender: No...I think maybe I have been here twice...
SophiaSharon Larnia: ok :))
Lucinda Lavender: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: time flies :D
Lucinda Lavender: yes...
Lucinda Lavender: I was in CPR class yesterday so did not drop during that
Agatha Macbeth grins
Maxine Walden: :)
Eden Haiku: Yakuzza is like a baby: he goes back and forth from awareness to dreamstates ;)
Bleu Oleander: don't we all
Agatha Macbeth: Mostly the latter ;-)
Eden Haiku: ;-)
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Riddle :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Riddle
Maxine Walden: maybe we are dreaming all the time :)
Maxine Walden: hi, Riddle
Riddle Sideways tries to quietly enter
Bleu Oleander: think so Maxine
Lucinda Lavender: I think so too...
Eden Haiku: whispering hi to Riddle
Zen Arado: 'all dharma are dreams'
Zen Arado: Hi Riddle
Lucinda Lavender: the dreaming feeling...letting go
Lucinda Lavender: not controlling...
Eden Haiku: I had a dream about a gorgeous pale yellow cotton dress with violet embroidery. I had washed it, a
cotton dress and I had to iron it...

('I recall a yellow cotton dress'....MacArthur Park?)

Maxine Walden: :) ?
Agatha Macbeth: Hope you didn't leave the iron on ;-)
Eden Haiku: I would have created one like that in SL if I could...
Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni imagines self in that yellow cotton dress
Agatha Macbeth: And ironing it too no doubt Cal
Lucinda Lavender: I too have dreamed up some clothing...at first is was about gown of certain colors
Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni likes the crepe / crinkled look
Lucinda Lavender: a little shadow there ...
Agatha Macbeth: Technicolour dream coat?
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Eden Haiku: Joseph's coat in the Bible...
Agatha Macbeth: Yep
Lucinda Lavender: trying to remember about that...
Zen Arado: his brothers were jealous...
Bleu Oleander: b'way show
Lucinda Lavender: he had dreaming that was listened to by the king yes?
Zen Arado: yes he was a good interpreter
Agatha Macbeth: He was in interpreter of dreams, yes
Lucinda Lavender: his skill was inknowing how to...
Zen Arado: predicted a famine I think
Agatha Macbeth: Would have got on well with Max and Fox :)
Maxine Walden: :))
Lucinda Lavender: yes...I remember...now
Agatha Macbeth: And Freud of course...
Adams Rubble is Offline
Maxine Walden: :)
Lucinda Lavender: it was about the fullness and emptiness of something ...?
Riddle Sideways: of course the book does not record his bad interprets
Zen Arado: :)
Maxine Walden: just thinking of our dreaming may be like a multi-colored fabric, wending so many strands
together
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Calvino Rabeni: Things look better with a little "PR"
Maxine Walden: :)
Lucinda Lavender: PR?
Calvino Rabeni: Public Relations
Agatha Macbeth nods
Calvino Rabeni: As in, the wrong interprets are left out :)
Agatha Macbeth: Wonder who his spin doctor was?
Calvino Rabeni: Momemt to moment, mind does this in microseconds
Lucinda Lavender: oh...:) in what I have studid...dreams come from some level of truth
Zen Arado: whoever wrote Genesis
Agatha Macbeth: Well if they are wrong, leave 'em out i say
Calvino Rabeni: August Persons
Maxine Walden: maybe the little haikus and notations arising from dropping are dreamlets
Lucinda Lavender: we resonate with something in the dream
Maxine Walden: droplets
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Calvino Rabeni: But a timer goes off, then we take the best wrong interpretation and run with it :)
Lucinda Lavender: droplets of truth
Maxine Walden: :))
Maxine Walden: yes, Lucinda
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes Max Ive thought of them as remnants as through a sieve, but haven't said it before :)
Calvino Rabeni: Even the wrong intepretations - are revealing as dreams
Maxine Walden: hmm, interesting Sharon
Lucinda Lavender: when the bigger picture is heard...
Maxine Walden: agree, Cal
Eden Haiku: I like "dreamlets" Maxine :-) Nice neologism!
Agatha Macbeth grins @ Sharon
Maxine Walden: hmm :)
Zen Arado: doesn't know what a neologism is
Maxine Walden: newly made up word
Zen Arado: :(
Eden Haiku: An invented word Zen.
Calvino Rabeni: Newly couned term
Calvino Rabeni: *coined
Agatha Macbeth nods
Zen Arado: you made it up?
Eden Haiku: Droplets of dreams like seconds of time...
Eden Haiku: Maxine did.
Maxine Walden: nice images emerging from our weaving strands of thoughts/words together
Calvino Rabeni: Everyone has the right / privilege to invent language
Maxine Walden: and maybe new words are like new dreamlets
Calvino Rabeni: agree
Calvino Rabeni: they are little worlds
Lucinda Lavender: the other day I heard Pema say...something about Time being a container...
Maxine Walden: I think of this, our experience here, as dreaming together
Agatha Macbeth: 'Twas bryllig and the slithy toves'...etc
Eden Haiku: So many new words are emerging from the new technologies, it is a wonder!
Calvino Rabeni: tiny handles to bigger realities
Bleu Oleander: maybe some dreamlets need new words
Lucinda Lavender: this ..container is our holder for the dreamlets
Eden Haiku: Yes, Bleu, I agree.
Agatha Macbeth: Mm
Zen Arado: new metaphors..
Lucinda Lavender: and our consciousness is holding the dreamlets
Eden Haiku: New metaphors for a new paradigm yes Zen...
Zen Arado: as Rorty said
Agatha Macbeth: Rorty?
Zen Arado: Richard Rorty the philosopher
Agatha Macbeth: Don't know him I'm afraid
Eden Haiku: What was the quotation Agatha? Gaelic? Old English?
Agatha Macbeth: Which Edie, sorry?
Calvino Rabeni: What said Rorty?
Eden Haiku: Agatha Macbeth: 'Twas bryllig and the slithy toves'...etc
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, you mean Jabberwocky?
Zen Arado: that analytical philosophy is dead
Agatha Macbeth: It's from Alice in Wonderland
Agatha Macbeth: It's about portmanteau words
Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni sheds a mock tear for analytical philosophy
Agatha Macbeth hands Cal a handkerchief
Zen Arado: writes and poets will tell us more about reality ...he said
Eden Haiku: Thanks.
Calvino Rabeni: Now let those philosophers find their way back into the fold
Calvino Rabeni: THanks Aga
Agatha Macbeth: YW :)
Lucinda Lavender: Into the fold of the dream coat...
Maxine Walden: :)
Calvino Rabeni: Fold of the handkerchief too :)
Agatha Macbeth: When did Rorty writhe then Zen?
Agatha Macbeth: Write
Maxine Walden: write or writhe...interesting both
Agatha Macbeth: Depends on what he was doing at the time ;-)
Zen Arado: Contingency, Irony, and Solidarity (1989)
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, he's modern then...
Calvino Rabeni: Pomo
Agatha Macbeth will turn to Wikipedia
Calvino Rabeni: Depending on where you go, we're premo, mo, pomo, or po-pomo :)
Eden Haiku: postmo?
Calvino Rabeni: :) Life is interesting :)
Calvino Rabeni: Yes
stevenaia Michinaga: atempts to leave quiety
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, will take a closer look at that later
Eden Haiku: bye Steve...
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Steve
Maxine Walden: bye steve
Riddle Sideways: bye Stev
Zen Arado: bye Steve
stevenaia Michinaga is Offline
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Steve
Yakuzza Lethecus: ye steve
Eden Haiku: Welcome back Yakuzza!
Zen Arado: good little book on Rorty
Zen Arado: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rorty-Redesc...ophers-Gideon-
Calder/dp/0297607545/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_3
Agatha Macbeth: Thx zen
Agatha Macbeth: Nothing anyone wants to particularly bring up this week then?
Riddle Sideways: hmmm, "dreamlets" was deleted from wikipedia in 2008
Agatha Macbeth: Erk
Maxine Walden: :)
Eden Haiku: It used to be a word then?
Lucinda Lavender: :))
Riddle Sideways: were plush toys
Maxine Walden: we can still have it as a word if we like
Agatha Macbeth likes 'dreamlets'
Eden Haiku: Did you know there are thousands more words in English than in French?
Zen Arado: it's our word:)
Maxine Walden: did not know that, Eden
Maxine Walden: how come?
Zen Arado: me either
Agatha Macbeth: Most of them are synonyms Edie
Bleu Oleander: more dreamlets in english?
Zen Arado: we talk too much:)
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Bleu Oleander: talk is cheap
Eden Haiku: Yes, I'm always amazed. Many neologisms for me might be dictionnary words in fact...:)
Agatha Macbeth: Like 'begin' 'commence' 'start' etc
Riddle Sideways: we typo too much
Zen Arado: Americans make up lots of new words
Zen Arado: and Aussies
Eden Haiku: I think French has more syntax and this is the way subtelties are accounted for.
Agatha Macbeth: Actually most of the words in English seem to have come from French :)
Agatha Macbeth: Or Anglo-Norman at any rate
Zen Arado: yes - they gave them to us and then dropped them
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Maxine Walden: :))
Eden Haiku: And also French Academy is quite rigid about letting new words in...
Zen Arado: ah interesting..
Agatha Macbeth nods
Maxine Walden: very proud of keeping the language 'pure' ?
Agatha Macbeth: The word police
Zen Arado: we are murdering English
Riddle Sideways: use a word wronginglyness and go to jail
Eden Haiku: A matter of class and hierarchy from the Middle Age yes.
Bleu Oleander: c u all .... it's been really funnerific!
Maxine Walden: unless one thinks it is vitalizing to introduce new words...
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Bleu
Maxine Walden: haha, bleu
Riddle Sideways: by bleu
Zen Arado: you can;t say that Bleu :)
Bleu Oleander: bye
Eden Haiku: The copist monks would make the spelling very complicated so the lay person could not write
correctly.
Zen Arado: bye Bleu
Eden Haiku: Funnerific ;)))
Agatha Macbeth: And they succeeded!
Maxine Walden: really, Eden, to keep the language out of riffraff hands
Agatha Macbeth: Can't trust plebs with words...
Maxine Walden: but can there be any dream police?
Zen Arado: didn't they keep to Latin?
Eden Haiku: Thank God we have poets and writers to stray away from the Academy...
Maxine Walden: to stay and to stray away...
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
Maxine Walden: yes, Eden
Calvino Rabeni: These are both good functions
Maxine Walden: seems to me we cannot boss the dream around
Calvino Rabeni: Civilization relies on its fragmentation
Eden Haiku: French emerged from Latin around that time Zen, in the Renaissance.
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe the dreams boss us Max
Calvino Rabeni: to create diverse viewpoints and perspectives
Maxine Walden: think so, Agatha
Zen Arado: are my dreams telling me something?
Lucinda Lavender: I was remembering Pema saying something about time as a container...
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Riddle Sideways: Dream Police, by the Cars
Zen Arado: yes Lucinda?
Agatha Macbeth remembers The Cars
Lucinda Lavender: and it seems it might contain and drop..everything
Agatha Macbeth: 'Who's gonna drive you home tonight'
SophiaSharon Larnia: everything being contsined by time Lucinda?
Riddle Sideways: Time in a bottle
SophiaSharon Larnia: contained*
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Sharon's inventing new words now! :))
Zen Arado: it was 'message in a bottle'?
Maxine Walden: :)
Agatha Macbeth: No, that was The police Zen
SophiaSharon Larnia: (i wouldnt know what it means tho! haha)
Agatha Macbeth grins
Zen Arado: cosine?
Agatha Macbeth: Cosecant?
Maxine Walden: sine, cosine and tangent?
SophiaSharon Larnia: wow rough crowd :D
Agatha Macbeth: Cosi van tutte?
Riddle Sideways: obtuse
Zen Arado: something to do with triangles?
Calvino Rabeni: TIme - nature's way of keeping everything from happening all at once, so we have a chance to
enjoy it
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Maxine Walden: :))
Agatha Macbeth: Mind my hypoteneuse
SophiaSharon Larnia: nice one Cal
Zen Arado: :)
Maxine Walden: is that like a water horse, Agatha
Lucinda Lavender: has any one remembered dreams with geometric shapes?
Agatha Macbeth: Haha
Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni wonders, does my hypotenuse make me look fat ?
Riddle Sideways: image of Harry Potter in a huge wherehouse of time bottles
Riddle Sideways: of memories
Eden Haiku: An hippocamp?
Eden Haiku: A wherehouse?
Agatha Macbeth: Leave Harry potter out of it please
Calvino Rabeni: No Potter :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: googles hypotenuse
Calvino Rabeni: Woody Allen OK then
Zen Arado: pythagoras
Agatha Macbeth: Bless you
Maxine Walden: oall greek to me
Eden Haiku: Golden Number.
Maxine Walden: all
Zen Arado: :)
Maxine Walden: is this dream jamming we are doing now?
Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni thinks of Allen's "The Whore of Mensa"
Zen Arado: not Babylon?
Agatha Macbeth: Leonhard Euler (no relation)?
Eden Haiku: Technicolor dreamcoats in golden numbers.
Maxine Walden: :))
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds fun
Riddle Sideways: his coat of many numbers
SophiaSharon Larnia whispers: not to interupt, but is someone saving this session to post?
Agatha Macbeth: The Mathemagician
Agatha Macbeth: Er, dunno Shaz
Calvino Rabeni: Hungry for a little intellectual stimulation, its clients pay well for a chance to discuss Plato or
Kiirkegaard with a well-provisioned young person
Maxine Walden: oh, love it, Agatha
Agatha Macbeth: I'll do it if you like
Zen Arado: arguments room in M.Python?
SophiaSharon Larnia: i missed some at the beginnng
Zen Arado: yes it is
SophiaSharon Larnia: -ing
Eden Haiku: You are a mathemagician Agatha!
Agatha Macbeth: I was here from the start, so i'm ok
Agatha Macbeth: I am?
Lucinda Lavender: In Mathmagicland...
SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks aggie
Calvino Rabeni: :) Any Guardian Business :)
Agatha Macbeth: 2 + 2 = 5
Eden Haiku: Yes! Taking the log and playing , juggling with both.
Calvino Rabeni: (ministry of silly walks)
Maxine Walden: :)))
Calvino Rabeni: including onigokko
Zen Arado: he has a bad knee at the moment
Agatha Macbeth: Nobody expects the PaB Inquisition
Lucinda Lavender: !!!
Zen Arado: JOhn Cleese
Agatha Macbeth: Does onigokko work in here?
Zen Arado: so not a funny walk
Yakuzza Lethecus: onigokko
Riddle Sideways: ah, thanks for the flowers
Agatha Macbeth: Yes!
Yakuzza Lethecus: stop
Agatha Macbeth: Whoa, laggy music
Yakuzza Lethecus: ups, i don´t wear it :)
Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni thinking of a film noir thriller - PAB Confidential
Agatha Macbeth: Where did all these flowers come from?
Eden Haiku: We had a wonderful silly session with Yaku on Friday...
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
Zen Arado: long time passing....
Calvino Rabeni: From near the yellow brick road perhaps?
Eden Haiku: Gaya gave us some maracas too...
Maxine Walden: great session, gotta go. see you all soon
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, the friday sillyness this week was special
Riddle Sideways: no no the words to the song are: Where have all the flowers gone...
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Maxine :)\
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Max take care
Yakuzza Lethecus: take care maxine
Zen Arado: oh
Eden Haiku: Bye Maxine.
Lucinda Lavender: by Maxine..
Zen Arado: bye Maxine
Agatha Macbeth: Too late to go to San Fransisco...
Eden Haiku: I also have to go in fact. have a nice Sunday everyone!
Calvino Rabeni: Just sleep here in the field of poppies
Agatha Macbeth: Au revoir Edie
Zen Arado: bye Eden
Zen Arado: me too
Zen Arado: bye all
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye everyone
Lucinda Lavender: Bye Eden
Riddle Sideways: I also gone as a dreamlet
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye and waves at everyone leaving
Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now everyone, I'll post the thingy
Calvino Rabeni: Well that settles it then, thank you all for your attention
SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye everyone
Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
Agatha Macbeth: C ya