The Guardian for this meeting was Xirana Oximoxi. Present were Mila, Yaku, FcSeeker, Wester, Bleu, oo0oo, Dash, Lugh, Susan, and ContreCourant.

milakel Resident: hi :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey mila
milakel Resident: yaku the lone gunman :)
milakel Resident: are you in or out?
Yakuzza Lethecus: not sure :)
milakel Resident: hehe
Yakuzza Lethecus: a tux is never out :)
milakel Resident: fair enough :)
milakel Resident: xir should be hosting this one
milakel Resident: stormy is ill :(
Yakuzza Lethecus: oh :(
Yakuzza Lethecus: didn´t read it in the mailinglist
Yakuzza Lethecus: hi xirana!
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Mila and Yaku!! :)
milakel Resident: xiry :)
milakel Resident: so nice of you to come to rescue
Xirana Oximoxi: Storm is not feeling well... Mila do you claim the log today??? I read lately there have been a lot of problems:)
Xirana Oximoxi: yes... Mila :)
milakel Resident: no, you're the guardian :)
milakel Resident: yes, read that too
Xirana Oximoxi: hehe ok! let's see what happens:))
milakel Resident: woly will fix that
FcSeeker Resident: hello all
Yakuzza Lethecus waves to seeker
milakel Resident: fc :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Fc:)
milakel Resident: wester :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hi wester
Xirana Oximoxi: hi Wester:)
milakel Resident: btw, wester, cute pics you got on flickr :)
--BELL--
Xirana Oximoxi: how are you Yaku? haven't you missed us?? :)
milakel Resident: that cooking for kids book is a good idea
Wester Kiranov: hi all
Wester Kiranov: thanks mila
FcSeeker Resident: he Wester and Bleu
Xirana Oximoxi: hi Wester:)
Yakuzza Lethecus: of course :), i am fine but my vacation could have been longer
milakel Resident: bleu :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hi Bleu:)
Bleu Oleander: hi everyone
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey bleu
milakel Resident: you're just back from sweden, yaku?
Bleu Oleander: hey Yaku ... welcome back
Xirana Oximoxi: yes! holidays always seem short:)
Yakuzza Lethecus: i am back from sweden for more then a week, but had vacation till last week
milakel Resident: ah, nice
Yakuzza Lethecus: it was really nice
FcSeeker Resident: <3
Yakuzza Lethecus: also seen some old gravehills
Yakuzza Lethecus: around vasteras as well as upsalla
milakel Resident: xir, and some keep doing their job as a hobby even on holidays :)
FcSeeker Resident: Hello Samu
milakel Resident: yaku, pics please :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey sam
milakel Resident: sam :)
Xirana Oximoxi: yes Mila... some that can work on what they like the most to do:))
milakel Resident: what a turnout today! :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Samuo:)
Xirana Oximoxi: a lot of people today!!!
Bleu Oleander: best wishes to Storm that he feels better!
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes!
Wester Kiranov: second that
oO0Oo Resident: hi Fc.. Wester.. Xirana.. Yaku.. Bleu.. Mila Nice to see you all.
Xirana Oximoxi: oh! thanks for telling us Bleu
Bleu Oleander: hi Samuo
milakel Resident: xir, no one wanted to miss your session :)
Xirana Oximoxi: lol hehe yes..I'm sure that's it:))
Bleu Oleander: :))
Xirana Oximoxi: we can look for a topic ....:)
Xirana Oximoxi: or let it appear suddenly...
Xirana Oximoxi: I've been wondering i more traditional paintings can lso iduce people to do a reflection about the fact of creating and Art in more philosophical way
Xirana Oximoxi: if more traditional pictures
Xirana Oximoxi: can also induce
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: sorry so much misstyping
Bleu Oleander: say more Xirana
milakel Resident: xir, i think modernists are more thought-provoking :)
Xirana Oximoxi: well..usually, when we see a landscape picture we only say, I like it, or no, and when we see more symbolic works we must do another kind of reflection about what we see
Bleu Oleander: I think any art can potentially be thought-provoking ... depends on the viewers involvement with the work
Xirana Oximoxi: I've been thinking about it because of the work of Magritte, 'Ceci n'est pas une pipe' :)) moment, I give the link
Bleu Oleander: art is a bridge between the creator and the viewer
Bleu Oleander: yes, I love Magritte's work
Xirana Oximoxi: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AhQswN5NRB...s+una+pipa.jpg
FcSeeker Resident: takes a humble bow
milakel Resident: xir, ah, so you do mean modernists when you say traditional painting?
FcSeeker Resident: have splended time
FcSeeker Resident: namaste
milakel Resident: panda-san :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye panda
oO0Oo Resident: namaste Fc
milakel Resident: this is a good looking pipe :)
--BELL--
oO0Oo Resident: please excuse me... hope to be back
Xirana Oximoxi: it's only a painting... a pipe is an object you use to smoke...:))
milakel Resident: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: I hope so Samuo:)
Xirana Oximoxi: Mila I meant more realistic paintings... not only modernist
Xirana Oximoxi: I think FC was bored:))
milakel Resident: or he had an important meeting to attend
Xirana Oximoxi: yes:)
milakel Resident: but we of course assume the worst in our defensive practice :)
Wester Kiranov: i'm off - i was just checking if xir needed any help, and rl is really quite busy :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye wester
Bleu Oleander: bye Wester
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye Wester, thank you very much
Xirana Oximoxi: Mila ..he was bowing:)) but you are right, sometimes we tend to assume the worst ..but not sure if in a defensive way:)
milakel Resident: usually, it is. it may not be obvious to us.
Xirana Oximoxi: and now I show you why I can not be a good guardian ... I've thougt 'to bow' meant 'to yawn'.... and it's not it at all
milakel Resident: my assumption is that you're the host and when someone leaves it makes you a bit uncomfy as to why? and you may feel responsible and think it's somehow related to you
Xirana Oximoxi: when we talk about this subject of beeing a guardian and taking care if there is a problem, I always think my English is one
milakel Resident: heh, no - bow is a sign of respect :)
Bleu Oleander: I never feel that way as a host Mila
Xirana Oximoxi: exactly!!! what a big missunderstaning!
Dash Earthboy: hey y'all
milakel Resident: dash :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: welcome dash :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Dash:)
milakel Resident: did you get any replies?
Dash Earthboy: been having connection problems all morning
Bleu Oleander: that said, I need to go .... IM me if you need help with the log Xirana ... happy to help
Bleu Oleander: take care all
Xirana Oximoxi: bye Bleu:) ty :)
milakel Resident: bleu :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye bleu
Dash Earthboy: can only stay a few minutes even if not knocked off
Dash Earthboy: bye Bleu
Dash Earthboy: Mila, no responses yet :(
milakel Resident: *takes this chance and pats dash on his back*
milakel Resident: oh well, at least the message is out there
Dash Earthboy: will leave in a few for first interview appt in Ft. Collins
Dash Earthboy: yes, and thanks for getting it out there Mila
--BELL--
Dash Earthboy: connection problems have screwed up emailing resumes/attachments
Dash Earthboy: and online applications this morning
milakel Resident: eh
milakel Resident: it's good you have it at all though
Xirana Oximoxi: I see PaB as a very special place where one can meet with people and know all different kind of situations and thoughts... I always learn coming here, ..do you have the same feeling?
Dash Earthboy: it still amazes me how if I acknowledge someone has committed a crime against me, let alone passive-aggressive abuse like not providing what I've paid for as agreed, is still met with comments like "that happens to everyone everywhere" or simply "be grateful and don't complain" or words to that effect
milakel Resident: i feel so about life in general, xir :)
Dash Earthboy: hey Lugh
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey lugh
Lugh Fehr: heyya people :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Lugh !
Yakuzza Lethecus: did you watch ,,game of thrones" lugh ? i was amazed when i recognized 1-2 places on malta
Dash Earthboy: temps here are supposed to reach 100 today so I'll take care of business in Ft. Collins this morning and scurry back to motel this afternoon
Xirana Oximoxi: yes Mila, but here, even if it is called SL, you get more close to individual situations that come from different countries and cultures
Lugh Fehr: nope i havent seen that one yaku
Dash Earthboy: yes Xir
Dash Earthboy: hey Susan
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Susan:)
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Xirana Oximoxi: waves:)
Lugh Fehr: hey susan
iwandertoo Resident: :)
milakel Resident: dash, i think those comments are meant to make a person feel better. i sure can see how it fails to do so at times.
milakel Resident: lugh, sysie :)
milakel Resident: susie :)
Dash Earthboy: yes Mila
Dash Earthboy: the road to my hell is paved with Good Intentions :\
Yakuzza Lethecus: i often thing about politeness and actual helpfullness, nice words are just expected in a modern world but at which point are those actually meaningful :/
Dash Earthboy: right Yaku
Lugh Fehr: nods
Xirana Oximoxi: ok, I also agree Yaku, but it helps make the situations better... you can also say nothing or even 'bad' comments
Dash Earthboy: think about "You Oughta Know" by A. Morisette, "don't deny me my pain" as if it doesn't matter
Xirana Oximoxi: to be polite is a good way to approach
Dash Earthboy: yes, and acknowledging the problems is typically better than "oh well, we all have problems"
Lugh Fehr: who feels it knows it
Dash Earthboy: yes Lugh
milakel Resident: yes, dash
--BELL--
milakel Resident: i think a more viable action would be: 1. acknowledge the problem 2. ask how i can help
Dash Earthboy: for sure Mila
Dash Earthboy: that's the way I usually respond too
Dash Earthboy: dang, got phone calls coming in right as I need to be leaving...timing huh?...good to see y'all this morning :)
Xirana Oximoxi: to acknowledge the problem may also help to give other points of view to it , the person who is living it maybe is not able to see at this moment
milakel Resident: good luck, dash!
Yakuzza Lethecus: good luck dash!
milakel Resident: also, i suggest you start a blog
Lugh Fehr: bye xira
Xirana Oximoxi: bye Dash, good luck with your interview
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Lugh Fehr: bye dash*
Xirana Oximoxi: Lugh lovely Elephant:)
Lugh Fehr: tnx :)
Xirana Oximoxi: or similar:)..is it an elephant?
Lugh Fehr: imnot sure i havny loged on in months its the first av i saw mabey robot eliphant or somthing i forgot i had it ;)
Xirana Oximoxi: how is it to be an animal as avatar...do you feel people treat you differently ?
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: it's nice:)
Lugh Fehr: hehe
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hello ContreCourant:)
ContreCourant Resident: Hello. Nice to be back
Xirana Oximoxi: have you been on holidays?
ContreCourant Resident: yes
Lugh Fehr: hello contre]
Xirana Oximoxi: ah! great:)..and have you found it short time?
ContreCourant Resident: Hello Lugh.
Xirana Oximoxi: silly question:))
ContreCourant Resident: not long enough thanks
ContreCourant Resident: Lugh - I can't figure out what you are
Lugh Fehr: hehe we cant ither
ContreCourant Resident: sort of a spider
ContreCourant Resident: from mars
Lugh Fehr: hehe ;P
ContreCourant Resident: but with only 2 lombs
ContreCourant Resident: limbs
milakel Resident: my god, lugh! what is it? :)
ContreCourant Resident: with a drum set
Xirana Oximoxi: the red nose remembers me boxy's nose...I miss to touch it:))
Lugh Fehr: what hppened to boxy?
Xirana Oximoxi: maybe long holiday:)) I think he is ok:)
milakel Resident: *pokes lugh* he's among us :)
milakel Resident: xir, right :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: *smiles*
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Lugh Fehr: oh heheh
milakel Resident: i'd like to share that... whenever i see xir, i think of penélope cruz :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hehehe you like her as actress?
milakel Resident: yep, she's lovingly sexy :)
--BELL--
Xirana Oximoxi: I prefer to think of Javier Bardem :))
milakel Resident: haha
milakel Resident: and they are a good pair
Xirana Oximoxi: agree:)
Lugh Fehr: brb i have to do somthing inportant
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye Lugh, I will be going now.... nice day to all and see you soon:)
Yakuzza Lethecus: cya soon xirana!
Yakuzza Lethecus: ups
Yakuzza Lethecus: lugh said that#
iwandertoo Resident: waves
milakel Resident: thank you, xiry :)
Xirana Oximoxi: yes... but I also go :)
ContreCourant Resident: Bye everyone
milakel Resident: does the log work?
Xirana Oximoxi: yw:)
Yakuzza Lethecus: *giggles in the silence* cya soon lugh :)
Xirana Oximoxi: Mila... how can I know?
milakel Resident: did you get the link wit hthe chatlog?
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye everyone
Xirana Oximoxi: yes, I did but closed it..shoudn't I?
milakel Resident: well, then it works fine i guess :)
Xirana Oximoxi: usually I received it in my email
Xirana Oximoxi: aha ok:)
milakel Resident: yes
milakel Resident: ok, see you :)
Xirana Oximoxi: if not I will aks for help:)
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye
milakel Resident: bye folks
ContreCourant Resident: Guess I'll go too then. Bye