2011.08.26 01:00 - 1627 hearts were lost

Eliza posted this session...

[01:15] Wol Euler: helllo hamlet
[01:15] Hamlet Graves: hello Wol
[01:16] Wol Euler: have you been here before?
[01:16] Hamlet Graves: yes I have
[01:17] Wol Euler: good, we have to ask :)
[01:17] PaB Listener: oO0Oo Resident's current display-name is "Samúð".
[01:17] Hamlet Graves: ::: siles :::
[01:17] Hamlet Graves: *smiles
[01:17] Wol Euler: good morning, sam-san
[01:17] oO0Oo Resident: Morning wol.. Hamlet :)
[01:18] Hamlet Graves: good morning Samuo
[01:19] Wol Euler: what shall we talk about this morning?
[01:19] oO0Oo Resident: good deeds.. super heros ;)
[01:19] PaB Listener: milakel Resident's current display-name is "Mila".
[01:19] Wol Euler smiles.
[01:20] Wol Euler: we talked about heroes one morning at the retreat
[01:20] Wol Euler: hello mila
[01:20] milakel Resident: hi :)
[01:20] oO0Oo Resident: Hi Mila
[01:21] milakel Resident: oh, fancy hat, woly :)
[01:21] Wol Euler: fancy outfit!
[01:21] milakel Resident: um, yes. i can see the feathers now :)
[01:22] milakel Resident: and roses!
[01:22] Hamlet Graves: excuse me i must go
[01:22] milakel Resident: woly, i have an idea :)
[01:22] Wol Euler: bye hamlet, nice to meet you
[01:23] Wol Euler: watch out for laertes, he's not trustworthy
[01:23] oO0Oo Resident: Bye Hamlet
[01:23] Wol Euler: what is your idea, lazy mila?
[01:23] milakel Resident: what if you organize a little fashion show for the arts of being? :)
[01:24] milakel Resident: it'd be cool to see all your outfits and of others too of course :) like blues avs are amazing
[01:25] Wol Euler: interesting :)
[01:25] milakel Resident: this is one event when no one asks you to low down the prims! :)
[01:25] Wol Euler: heh
[01:25] oO0Oo Resident: lol yes up the prims
[01:25] milakel Resident: it'll be a good test of the sim performace too :)
[01:26] Wol Euler: well we couldn't do it here, far too laggy
[01:26] Wol Euler: IMHO
[01:26] oO0Oo Resident: "prim and improper" - a working title
[01:26] milakel Resident: sam :)
[01:26] Wol Euler: we'd ahve to spend five minutes each on the runway to get the textures loaded
[01:26] Wol Euler laughs.
[01:26] Wol Euler: very good
[01:26] Wol Euler: I can certainly do improper :)
[01:26] Wol Euler: but not here of course (coughs)
[01:27] milakel Resident: afraid of the recorder? :)
[01:27] Wol Euler: not afraid: inappropriate
[01:27] milakel Resident: um
[01:27] Wol Euler: IMHO YMMV
[01:27] milakel Resident: :)
[01:32] milakel Resident: meep
[01:32] Wol Euler: moop
[01:33] milakel Resident: um, tricky to position yourself with an animation on
[01:33] Wol Euler: yep:)
[01:34] milakel Resident: eek
[01:34] Wol Euler watches Mila slide across the floor on her back, and giggles
[01:34] milakel Resident: grass anyone? :)
[01:34] Wol Euler: nah, I have to work after this
[01:34] oO0Oo Resident: :)
[01:34] milakel Resident: doesn't feel too comfy to lay on marble :)
[01:35] milakel Resident: yay!
[01:35] milakel Resident: merci :)
[01:35] oO0Oo Resident: softer
[01:36] oO0Oo Resident: many feminine elements in place
[01:36] milakel Resident watches grasshoppers over her head
[01:36] Wol Euler smiles.
[01:36] milakel Resident: why "soft" would be a feminine element?
[01:37] Wol Euler: well, there are certain obvious biological analogies :)
[01:38] oO0Oo Resident: if you have to ask..
[01:38] Wol Euler smiles.
[01:38] oO0Oo Resident: ;)
[01:38] milakel Resident: meh
[01:38] Wol Euler: awwwww
[01:38] milakel Resident: :)
[01:40] Wol Euler: so, mila, do you hvae any suggestions for the questions I asked about the wiki?
[01:40] milakel Resident: um
[01:40] milakel Resident: not yet. i'm tuning apache and mysql.
[01:40] Wol Euler: setting a template for a branch of the wiki
[01:40] Wol Euler: okay
[01:41] milakel Resident: oh, that. i don't know. i'd have to research myself.
[01:41] milakel Resident: 99 francs project :)
[01:42] Wol Euler: right
[01:42] Wol Euler: or 99 bottles of beer
[01:42] milakel Resident: ah, i see the page
[01:42] milakel Resident: it's under both classes and root menu?
[01:43] Wol Euler: shouldn't be
[01:43] Wol Euler: only in classes, I thought
[01:43] Wol Euler: it *was* in root
[01:43] milakel Resident: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Classes_and_Sessions/The_99_Days_project
[01:43] milakel Resident: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/The_99_Days_project
[01:43] milakel Resident: :)
[01:43] Wol Euler: that redirects :)
[01:43] Wol Euler: try it
[01:44] milakel Resident: ouch, collector page :)
[01:44] Wol Euler shrugs
[01:44] Wol Euler: sometimes you need them
[01:44] Wol Euler: there will be > 100 per session, and there will be > 1 sessions
[01:45] milakel Resident: ah, so people put their comments in for each day
[01:45] Wol Euler: right
[01:45] milakel Resident: where's -1?
[01:45] Wol Euler: hasn't happened yet
[01:45] Wol Euler: today is -6
[01:45] Wol Euler: 0 = start = september 1
[01:45] milakel Resident: ahhh
[01:46] milakel Resident: then it's not -6
[01:46] Wol Euler smiles at Sam
[01:46] milakel Resident: it's t-6
[01:46] Wol Euler waves that aside
[01:46] milakel Resident: 99.001?
[01:46] Wol Euler: the first of many 99's
[01:46] milakel Resident: oh :)
[01:46] Wol Euler: the second will be 99.002
[01:46] milakel Resident: wow
[01:47] Wol Euler: I mean, I'm making this up as I go along. If you have a better idea then please say so
[01:47] milakel Resident: that's a lot of days :)
[01:47] Wol Euler: yep
[01:47] Wol Euler: three a year
[01:47] Wol Euler: if we always start on the first of a month, which perhps is not a good idea.
[01:47] milakel Resident: is there a tl;dr summary of the project?
[01:47] Wol Euler: not yet
[01:48] Wol Euler: I'm working on that
[01:48] milakel Resident: ok
[01:48] milakel Resident: well, sounds interesting
[01:48] Wol Euler: okay, I'll give you one right now
[01:48] oO0Oo Resident listens
[01:49] Wol Euler: think of something that you would like to do regularly, but don't do
[01:49] Wol Euler: or not often enough, or perhaps you need to "restart" your engine with it
[01:49] milakel Resident: *thinks: exercise*
[01:49] Wol Euler: starting whenever you like, but ideally no later than day 0, do that every day for 100 days
[01:50] Wol Euler: and add a comment to the wiki page for that day, telling about it
[01:50] milakel Resident: neat :)
[01:50] Wol Euler: exercise is fine, but the word is probably far too vague to be a useful goal
[01:50] milakel Resident: hey, we could make a whole web app out of it :)
[01:50] Wol Euler: specify: 10 situps, 10 pushups, 5 deep knee bends ---- whatever
[01:50] milakel Resident: hehe
[01:50] Wol Euler: not before day 0
[01:50] Wol Euler: get that running for the 99.002 if you wish
[01:51] oO0Oo Resident: 23 ostrich feather lifts
[01:51] Wol Euler: the point is: every day, and comment every day
[01:51] milakel Resident: hmm, a good excuse to start a 99 days course in french :)
[01:51] Wol Euler: the every-day-ness and the in-public-ness will serve to keep you at it!
[01:51] Wol Euler: sure, whatever
[01:51] Wol Euler: just do it
[01:51] Wol Euler: and comment about it
[01:51] Wol Euler smiles to sam
[01:52] Wol Euler: ostrich feather wavings
[01:52] milakel Resident: btw, jedi = just do it :)
[01:52] oO0Oo Resident: :)
[01:52] Wol Euler: yep
[01:52] milakel Resident: hmm
[01:52] milakel Resident: hmm
[01:52] milakel Resident: *thinks*
[01:53] milakel Resident: *itches actually*
[01:53] Wol Euler: it#s sometimes hard to tell those two apart
[01:53] milakel Resident: *watns to code this thing* :)
[01:53] Wol Euler: go for it, but we are not using it before 99.002
[01:53] oO0Oo Resident: and look to your right without typing Ms . Euler
[01:54] milakel Resident: no worries. the process is fun in itself :)
[01:54] milakel Resident: well, i'll fire it up on my todo list
[01:54] milakel Resident: something for this weekend maybe
[01:54] Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.
[01:54] Wol Euler: I'll be most impressed if you can code this in a weekend
[01:54] oO0Oo Resident: ty
[01:54] Wol Euler: oh, now I understand :( sorry sam, I'll do it again
[01:56] milakel Resident: it's doable in a weekend, except, i most likely won't have that much time.
[01:56] milakel Resident: huh? "ms euler"?
[01:56] Wol Euler: / sam, are you done?
[01:56] oO0Oo Resident: done .. thanks Wol
[01:56] Wol Euler: okay
[01:56] Wol Euler: :)
[01:56] milakel Resident: were you taking a picture?
[01:57] oO0Oo Resident: yes
[01:57] milakel Resident: ah, ok :)
[01:57] milakel Resident: save it for the woly's fashion show :)
[01:57] oO0Oo Resident: :)
[02:02] Wol Euler: actually there is something about the new wiki editor that *really* infuriates me.
[02:02] milakel Resident: heh :)
[02:02] Wol Euler: On my pc, windows 7 64 bit, when I am editing the wiki in firefox, using the arrow keys does not move my cursor but attempts to scroll the page up or down
[02:02] milakel Resident: shh... ommmm :)
[02:03] Wol Euler: meaning that I lose my insertion point and have to re-click where I was.
[02:03] Wol Euler: can this be fixed or disabled somehow?
[02:03] milakel Resident: yes, is it on ff 5?
[02:03] Wol Euler: dunno, how do I find out?
[02:03] milakel Resident: firefox 5, i mean :)
[02:04] Wol Euler: I know what you mean :)
[02:04] Wol Euler: if this were a mac app it would have a clearly marked menu item "about firefox"
[02:04] milakel Resident: ah
[02:04] Wol Euler: because it#s windows, that info is not available
[02:04] milakel Resident: help usually
[02:04] oO0Oo Resident: help>about Firefox
[02:05] Wol Euler: this version doesn#t have a help menu
[02:05] Wol Euler: just a singl.e red word "firefox" at the top left
[02:05] milakel Resident: ah, must be new then
[02:05] Wol Euler: oh, there it is, sorry
[02:05] oO0Oo Resident: then it is at least FF 5
[02:05] Wol Euler: 6.0
[02:05] milakel Resident: in this case you'll have to wait till mindtouch fixes that
[02:05] Wol Euler: boo
[02:05] milakel Resident: or firefox
[02:06] milakel Resident: or ckeditor guys
[02:06] Wol Euler: why is "behave sensibly, behave as the previuos version corectly did" not the default?
[02:06] milakel Resident: those who actually wrote it
[02:06] Wol Euler: why do programmers have to change even things that are not at all broken?
[02:06] Wol Euler grumbles
[02:06] milakel Resident: regression happens all the time
[02:07] Wol Euler: so does illness, but society creates doctors
[02:07] milakel Resident: and it's hard to cover all the case in the tests
[02:07] PaB Listener: Xirana Oximoxi's current display-name is "Xirana".
[02:07] milakel Resident: xiry :)
[02:07] Wol Euler: yeah, I know; but surely if yo don't change it, it does not change?
[02:07] Wol Euler: or is there voodoo programming going on?
[02:07] Wol Euler: hello xir
[02:07] oO0Oo Resident: Xir :)
[02:07] Xirana Oximoxi: morning all:))
[02:08] oO0Oo Resident: Xirana has a beautiful new gallery space for her paintings
[02:08] Xirana Oximoxi: I've come to thank Wol!!! it was exactly what she has told me:))
[02:08] Wol Euler: awwwwww :)
[02:08] Wol Euler: glad to be of service
[02:08] Xirana Oximoxi: you are the best!!! :)
[02:08] Wol Euler blushes and smiles
[02:08] oO0Oo Resident: 2nd that
[02:08] milakel Resident: woly, it does actually. people use software in various ways uncovering previously unknown combinations
[02:08] Wol Euler acknowledges the point but continues to grumble.
[02:09] Xirana Oximoxi: wow Mila.... are you comfortable, feeling the grass?
[02:09] milakel Resident: *watches an ant crawling on her arm* yea, i'm fine :)
[02:09] oO0Oo Resident: maybe it's the amount of sleep the programmers get
[02:10] milakel Resident: i wish i'd never sleep
[02:10] oO0Oo Resident: seems it's part of the human deal
[02:10] Wol Euler: how sad, mila
[02:10] milakel Resident: :)
[02:11] Wol Euler: I love sleeping, I look forward to going to bed
[02:11] milakel Resident: it is sad that we lose so much time on sleep
[02:11] oO0Oo Resident: just the right amount by mother natures reckoning
[02:11] Xirana Oximoxi: maybe we are not loosing time when slleping...we dream and put brain in order... (or disorder:)
[02:11] milakel Resident: woly, at least you see dreams :)
[02:12] oO0Oo Resident: yes all manner of repair and rejuvenation
[02:12] Wol Euler: I do :)
[02:12] milakel Resident: xir, well said - order or disorder :)
[02:12] Xirana Oximoxi: :)
[02:13] Xirana Oximoxi: it seems absolutely necessary to sleep
[02:13] milakel Resident: i don't dismiss the important function that the sleep activity holds. i simply say that the time could have been spent in better ways.
[02:14] Xirana Oximoxi: yes! it's a way to see it... I always have the feeling that I need more time to do things
[02:19] Xirana Oximoxi: I go now... thanks for all Wo, Sam...and MIla :)) nice day to all:)
[02:20] oO0Oo Resident: I must go too.. Enjoyed this relaxing session.. look forward to 99 .. Bye Wol, Xir, Mila
[02:21] Wol Euler: bye sam, take care
[02:21] Wol Euler: and you can start right now, if you wish
[02:21] Wol Euler: eliza has started
[02:21] Wol Euler: as have I
[02:21] oO0Oo Resident: Thanks for helping Xirana Wol. Very kind.
[02:21] Wol Euler: my pleasure ♥
[02:22] milakel Resident: where does it say which activity you chose?
[02:22] Wol Euler: it doesn't :)
[02:22] milakel Resident: by design?
[02:22] Wol Euler: by laziness
[02:22] milakel Resident: ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
[02:22] milakel Resident: :)
[02:22] Wol Euler: and by "I am making this up as I go along"
[02:22] milakel Resident: aha, ok :)
[02:23] milakel Resident: 1627 hearts were lost :)
[02:23] Wol Euler: just as well :)
[02:23] Wol Euler: [02:22] milakel Resident's PaB Listener: Oh no! milakel%20Resident's last sentence was too long, 1627 letters were lost.
[02:23] milakel Resident: wait, why is there a space html code?
[02:23] Wol Euler: because it is uuencoded for transmission
[02:23] Wol Euler: and I didn't think to decode the error message
[02:24] milakel Resident: unescape on output?
[02:24] milakel Resident: ah
[02:24] milakel Resident: well :)
[02:24] Wol Euler: yeah, I know :)
[02:24] Wol Euler: I know *now*
[02:25] milakel Resident: *looks to her right and sees a box*
[02:25] milakel Resident: does anyone know what the cal's box doing?
[02:25] Wol Euler: handing out presents?
[02:25] milakel Resident: i think it does more than that
[02:26] Wol Euler: then you know more than I
[02:26] milakel Resident: ok :)
[02:27] milakel Resident: btw, you can deploy java on heroku now
[02:27] milakel Resident: poof and it's up and running
[02:27] Wol Euler has no idea what heroku is :)
[02:27] milakel Resident: oh noooes!!
[02:27] Wol Euler: yeah, I know, old and stupid and lazy
[02:27] milakel Resident: http://www.google.ru/url?sa=t&source...oXByYK6RM3N7Ug
[02:27] milakel Resident: meh, evil google
[02:27] milakel Resident: http://www.heroku.com/
[02:27] milakel Resident: there you go
[02:29] milakel Resident: there are spinoffs now for .net and php
[02:30] Wol Euler: wow
[02:30] milakel Resident: also, fun fact. matz (ruby's author) works at heroku now :)
[02:31] milakel Resident: i guess it was more of a marketing stunt though
[02:31] milakel Resident: hey, do you know "green onions"? :)
[02:33] Wol Euler: the 60s song?
[02:33] milakel Resident: yep
[02:33] Wol Euler: yes, I do :)
[02:33] milakel Resident: cool song
[02:33] Wol Euler: yep :)
[02:34] milakel Resident: just heard it on a radio the other day
[02:36] Wol Euler: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Classes_and_Sessions/The_99_Days_project <- now with added tl:dr
[02:38] milakel Resident: neat
[02:38] Wol Euler: ty :)
[02:38] milakel Resident: i suspect 99 came up from the 9 sec practice?
[02:38] Wol Euler: of course :)
[02:38] Wol Euler: we love 9s
[02:39] milakel Resident: btw, why is it 9 sec? did pema ever explain?
[02:39] milakel Resident: random?
[02:39] Wol Euler: 1% time tax :)
[02:39] Wol Euler: 9 seconds is 1% of 15 minutes
[02:39] milakel Resident: ahh
[02:39] milakel Resident: yea
[02:42] Wol Euler: anyway, gotta go, work waits
[02:42] Wol Euler: have a good day, mila