2012.04.29 01:00 - Life Flows Very Slowly

Eliza posted this session with pictures and hope that Wol doesn't mind. :)

[00:59] Agatha Macbeth sits patiently waiting for Wol to appear
[00:59] Agatha Macbeth: ;-)
[01:00] Agatha Macbeth: Bong! Recording has started....
[01:01] Agatha Macbeth: She's probably still making the coffee I guess
[01:01] Agatha Macbeth: Aha...online :)
[01:02] Agatha Macbeth: Hello Pem :)
[01:02] Agatha Macbeth waves
[01:02] Pema Pera: hi Aggers!
[01:03] Agatha Macbeth: How are we?
[01:03] Pema Pera waves back
[01:03] Pema Pera: all of us are fine, is my guess. (^_^)
[01:03] Agatha Macbeth: Wol is just getting dressed
[01:03] Agatha Macbeth: be with us shortly
[01:03] Pema Pera: I didn't know there was a dressing room at the pavilion
[01:03] Agatha Macbeth: She's probably at Mununghwa
[01:04] Agatha Macbeth: Yay!
[01:04] Pema Pera: brb, looking for a power outlet at the coffeeshop here in Kyoto where I'm hanging out -- hi well-dressed Wol !
[01:04] Agatha Macbeth: Guten morgen mein schatz :)
[01:04] Wol Euler: heheheheheh
[01:04] Agatha Macbeth: Wow all in white

[01:04] Wol Euler: aggers insisted that I come right away
[01:04] Agatha Macbeth smiles
[01:05] Agatha Macbeth: Bossy moi eh?
[01:05] Pema Pera: (done!)
[01:05] Agatha Macbeth smiles
[01:05] Wol Euler: there :)
[01:05] Pema Pera feels very dark suddenly :-)
[01:06] Agatha Macbeth: Still pretty dark here, awful weather
[01:06] Pema Pera: (enough current now to last for a while, unless the cafe people tell me to unplug; plugging in computers is often frowned upon in Japan . . . )
[01:06] Agatha Macbeth: Wow Liz just came on
[01:06] Wol Euler: yeah, she was here yesterday too
[01:06] Pema Pera meant, feeling very black next to the two ladies in white :-)
[01:07] Agatha Macbeth: she's up early

[01:07] Agatha Macbeth: I still can't get used to your hair Pem
[01:07] Wol Euler: funny about the plugging-in, is that true in Starbucks etc too?
[01:07] Wol Euler: and yes, I miss the orange cascade
[01:07] Pema Pera: hahaha, I may yet change back -- or just let it grow out again
[01:07] Agatha Macbeth grins

[01:08] Pema Pera: in Starbucks (and Tully's places) it depends on the spot
[01:08] Agatha Macbeth: Oh, right
[01:08] Wol Euler: some chairs are OK to plug in at, and others not?
[01:08] Wol Euler: good morning, eliza :)
[01:09] Eliza Madrigal: Hi Wol, Agatha, Pema :)
[01:09] Agatha Macbeth: Hello early bird :)
[01:09] Eliza Madrigal smiles
[01:09] Pema Pera: some cafes are :-)
[01:09] Pema Pera: hi Eliza!
[01:09] Pema Pera: are you early or late, Eliza?
[01:09] Eliza Madrigal: both I suppose :)
[01:09] Wol Euler: heheheh
[01:09] Pema Pera: at least you are :-)
[01:10] Agatha Macbeth: That dress looks familiar ;-)
[01:10] Eliza Madrigal: :)

[01:10] Agatha Macbeth: So now we have four redheads....
[01:11] Agatha Macbeth: all in a row
[01:11] Wol Euler: and a nice rhythm of not-coloured clothes
[01:11] Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
[01:11] Eliza Madrigal: pattern finder :)
[01:11] Pema Pera: :-)
[01:12] Eliza Madrigal: may hotter heads prevail?
[01:12] Pema Pera: the red gang of four . . .
[01:12] Eliza Madrigal: I'm looking forward to Adams session later today... hope to sleep beforehand , hah, but of course lovely to be here with you all now too
[01:13] Agatha Macbeth: Are you up early Liz, or not been to bed yet?
[01:13] Pema Pera: or both?
[01:13] Wol Euler: oh, is that today? I thought she wanted to postpone it, last time we spoke?
[01:13] Agatha Macbeth: Oh
[01:13] Agatha Macbeth: hadn't heard about that
[01:13] Eliza Madrigal: well... I was up early last night, and here, then slept during the day, and now am up again :) not yet sleeping
[01:13] Wol Euler: let me check e-mail ...
[01:13] Eliza Madrigal: postponed?
[01:13] Agatha Macbeth: :(
[01:14] Pema Pera: it was postponed from last week till today
[01:14] Pema Pera: since the message was ten days or so ago
[01:14] Agatha Macbeth: Ah I see
[01:14] Eliza Madrigal: ah, that's prob what Wol was thinking of
[01:14] Pema Pera: when she warned that the first Sunday wouldn't do
[01:14] Agatha Macbeth: Yes, had a meeting in RL last week
[01:14] Pema Pera: in any case, can we still talk about equanimity or . . . ?
[01:16] Wol Euler: oh, ok, I must have remembered that but forgotten the seven days since
[01:16] Eliza Madrigal: :)
[01:16] Agatha Macbeth pokes you

[01:16] Wol Euler: in that case, I'm going to miss the talk :(
[01:17] Agatha Macbeth: Aww
[01:17] Wol Euler: no way I'll be back from work in time for it :(
[01:17] Wol Euler: unless I take my lunchbreak then ...
[01:17] Agatha Macbeth: Oh well
[01:17] Pema Pera: from work, on Sunday?
[01:17] Wol Euler: and yesterday, and on the May 1 holiday too.
[01:17] Agatha Macbeth: Wol is Ms 24/7
[01:17] Wol Euler: competition due on May 15th, and we aren't ready
[01:17] Agatha Macbeth: OMG
[01:17] Pema Pera: sorry, Adams' event is today, right?
[01:18] Agatha Macbeth: Yes, at 7 AM
[01:18] Agatha Macbeth: SLT

[01:18] Pema Pera: ah, but May 1st is workers day sot that at least fits! (^^)
[01:18] Agatha Macbeth: Yay for the workers
[01:18] Wol Euler smiles.
[01:18] Eliza Madrigal: :)
[01:19] Eliza Madrigal: a working class hero is something to be...
[01:19] Eliza Madrigal: re equanimity, the topics will sort of move across the boundaries one hopes
[01:19] Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
[01:19] Eliza Madrigal: jumping from pond to pond :)
[01:19] Pema Pera: I've enjoyed very much the various eq. sessions I've attended this last week
[01:19] Agatha Macbeth pictures topics moving across boundaries
[01:19] Pema Pera: like pigs . . . giving them a shove occasionally
[01:20] Eliza Madrigal laughs... hm... hopping pigs... yup, it is about 4 am

[01:20] Wol Euler thinks of Basho: Still pond, topic sits on a lotus pad, splash!
[01:20] Eliza Madrigal: :)))
[01:20] Pema Pera thinking about hog calling contests . . . .
[01:20] Agatha Macbeth: Sorry but what's Basho?
[01:21] Wol Euler: a japanese poet of around Shakespeare's time, the one who made haiku popularly known
[01:21] Agatha Macbeth: Ah, ty
[01:21] Agatha Macbeth: Interesting
[01:21] Agatha Macbeth: I didn't know someone actually invented them
[01:22] Wol Euler: they were a verbal game played at court
[01:22] Wol Euler: like the viciously barbed insults of the french kings' court before the revolution
[01:23] Wol Euler: but kinder
[01:23] Agatha Macbeth: Hmm
[01:23] Wol Euler: Basho brought them out into public, as it were
[01:23] Eliza Madrigal: :) kind banter
[01:23] Wol Euler: and (by his example) formalized the rules
[01:23] Agatha Macbeth: I had always assumed they were a cultural thing that just arose
[01:25] Eliza Madrigal: blooming new rhythms
[01:26] Wol Euler: insofar as anything just arises, every meme had its founder somewhere, somewhen
[01:26] Agatha Macbeth: Yes, probably
[01:26] Pema Pera: I guess new cultural patterns appear like roots growing underground, and then someone comes along at the right time to ride the waves, someone with the flair to popularize
[01:26] Agatha Macbeth: It's identifying the source tho
[01:26] Eliza Madrigal: haiku takes a vehicle
[01:26] Agatha Macbeth nods
[01:27] Wol Euler: yes, that sounds right

[01:28] Eliza Madrigal: I was wondering today, reading over the earlier equanimity sessions, if 'continuity of awareness' is the same thing... often think of that as a group dynamic but hm... suppose a group can manifest equanimity
[01:29] Agatha Macbeth: Mm, like something rising to the surface
[01:29] Wol Euler: interesting idea!

[01:31] Pema Pera: Hi Kiremimi!
[01:31] Eliza Madrigal: Hi Kiremimi :))
[01:31] Wol Euler: hello kiremimi
[01:32] Kiremimi Tigerpaw: Hi, Wol
[01:32] Kiremimi Tigerpaw: Hi, Eliza
[01:32] Wol Euler: nice to see you again
[01:32] Kiremimi Tigerpaw: yes, indeed.
[01:32] Eliza Madrigal enjoy the way your dress fans out when sitting Kiremimi
[01:32] Kiremimi Tigerpaw: thanks.
[01:32] Wol Euler: yes, I was looking at that too :)
[01:32] Eliza Madrigal: :)
[01:32] Kiremimi Tigerpaw: appropriate for logging in from Kyoto!
[01:33] Pema Pera: have any of you gone shopping in Japanese sims, for clothes?
[01:33] Wol Euler: mmhmm
[01:33] Wol Euler: htey have a very different aesthetic and spatial sense to western stores
[01:33] Eliza Madrigal: my beautiful kimonos come from a site no longer open called 1000 free kimonos
[01:33] Agatha Macbeth returns from kitchen and reads back
[01:33] Pema Pera: ah, even the layout of the stores, Wol ?
[01:34] Agatha Macbeth: Oh hello :)
[01:34] Pema Pera pictures Aggers sweating over a hot stove
[01:34] Wol Euler: mmhmm, in all cases that come to mind, yes
[01:34] Eliza Madrigal: :)
[01:34] Agatha Macbeth: no, just making tea :)

[01:35] Eliza Madrigal: oops
[01:35] Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
[01:35] Wol Euler: I feared that's what was happening
[01:35] Wol Euler wonders whether Pema and Kiremimi are in the same coffee shop :)
[01:35] Pema Pera: (Kiremimi now working furiously to get back in again . . . her new computer is not very stable)
[01:35] Agatha Macbeth: wb dear
[01:36] Wol Euler nods.
[01:36] Pema Pera: yes, Wol :-)
[01:36] Wol Euler: wb
[01:36] Pema Pera: (fighting over the one charger, hehehe)
[01:36] Wol Euler: heheheh
[01:36] Eliza Madrigal laughs
[01:36] Agatha Macbeth smiles
[01:36] Wol Euler: actually if eliza and I move over one, we'd have black white grey white black :)
[01:37] Pema Pera: :)
[01:37] Agatha Macbeth: Aha
[01:37] Pema Pera: (Kire just got the charger for the next few minutes)
[01:37] Agatha Macbeth: Yay
[01:37] Wol Euler: good :)
[01:37] Kiremimi Tigerpaw: i am back
[01:37] Eliza Madrigal: :)
[01:37] Wol Euler: wb
[01:37] Eliza Madrigal: welcome back, glad that Pema was a gentleman...
[01:38] Eliza Madrigal: :)
[01:38] Pema Pera: (for the next few minutes!)
[01:38] Eliza Madrigal: hah
[01:38] Kiremimi Tigerpaw: He is very sweet today
[01:38] Wol Euler chuckles.
[01:38] Wol Euler: must be the new moon
[01:38] Agatha Macbeth: Isn't he sweet everyday then? ;-)
[01:38] Pema Pera thinks the conversation is getting into dangerous terrain . . . .
[01:39] Agatha Macbeth: Awww
[01:39] Wol Euler: guard your equanimity, pema!
[01:39] Pema Pera: (^_^)
[01:39] Pema Pera: :)
[01:39] Pema Pera: Kire and I are equally animated . . .

[01:40] Pema Pera: ah, I just noticed that Kire's wifi is very slow
[01:40] Pema Pera: she's a dozen lines behind
[01:40] Eliza Madrigal: I wonder why
[01:40] Pema Pera: and meanwhile I was thinking she had no comments . . . :-)
[01:40] Eliza Madrigal: :(
[01:40] Pema Pera: oh, I just got a new high-speed wifi
[01:40] Pema Pera: and she got one a year ago . . .
[01:40] Wol Euler: huh
[01:40] Agatha Macbeth: Gone again...
[01:40] Wol Euler: :(
[01:41] Pema Pera: yes
[01:41] Eliza Madrigal: nice to have her peek in
[01:41] Agatha Macbeth: One of those sundays perhaps
[01:41] Agatha Macbeth: Yes nice to see her
[01:41] Eliza Madrigal: equanimity in the face of SL and internet shenanigans
[01:41] Wol Euler: mmhmm

[01:42] Wol Euler: practice metta on inanimate objects too :)
[01:42] Pema Pera: :-)
[01:42] Eliza Madrigal: :)
[01:42] Agatha Macbeth: Mega metta
[01:42] Pema Pera: meta metta?
[01:42] Agatha Macbeth: That too :)
[01:43] Kiremimi Tigerpaw: sorry back again. we sit in a cafe in kyoto together but i have a very slow connection..
[01:43] Pema Pera: just when Aggers started to ask interesting questions . . . .
[01:43] Kiremimi Tigerpaw: yes
[01:43] Agatha Macbeth: I did?
[01:43] Agatha Macbeth: Wow
[01:44] Eliza Madrigal: :)
[01:44] Pema Pera: oh, never mind :)
[01:44] Wol Euler: I heard a possible fix for that in the WoW beta forum: open Internet Explorer (even if you don't use it) go to Extra/Settings/Internet Connections
[01:44] Kiremimi Tigerpaw: what was that quetion??
[01:44] Wol Euler: and disable the option "try to guess the best connetion speed"
[01:45] Eliza Madrigal: am sure that many would have questions for kiremimi about pema ... hm...
[01:45] Agatha Macbeth: [thanks Wol]
[01:45] Kiremimi Tigerpaw: thanks wol..
[01:48] Kiremimi Tigerpaw: we are in Kotori (bird) cafe in kyoto, and i hear two birds singing together, one from a RL the other from SL.
[01:48] Wol Euler smiles.
[01:48] Eliza Madrigal: aw
[01:48] Agatha Macbeth: Sweet
[01:48] Eliza Madrigal: crossing boundaries
[01:48] Wol Euler nods.
[01:49] Pema Pera: since we're the only customers (they close in ten minutes) the owner doesn't mind the bird sound competition between the two



[01:49] Kiremimi Tigerpaw: life flows very slowly in kyoto
[01:49] Eliza Madrigal: :)
[01:49] Wol Euler smiles broadly
[01:49] Agatha Macbeth: Sounds wonderful
[01:49] Wol Euler: it does.
[01:51] Eliza Madrigal: a 'thin place'
[01:51] Agatha Macbeth: Why thin Liz? :)
[01:51] Eliza Madrigal: reference to a wonderful article from a month or two ago:http://nyti.ms/Jj2IED
[01:51] Agatha Macbeth: Oh I see, ty
[01:52] Eliza Madrigal: for later... but the idea is that there are places where we are 'jolted out of familiar ways of seeing'...
[01:52] Wol Euler reads
[01:52] Eliza Madrigal: gently jolted perhaps
[01:52] Eliza Madrigal: :)

[01:52] Wol Euler: "They are locales where the distance between heaven and earth collapses and we’re able to catch glimpses of the divine, or the transcendent or, as I like to think of it, the Infinite Whatever. "

[01:52] Wol Euler: nice
[01:53] Eliza Madrigal: yes
[01:53] Wol Euler: thanks, I'll read that (much) later
[01:53] Agatha Macbeth: Whoa
[01:53] Wol Euler: after work
[01:53] Eliza Madrigal: It has begun to rain very hard here... may help me to get some sleep before morning sessions so will say goodnight. Lovely to see you all... special treat Kiremimi
[01:53] Pema Pera: bye Eliza!
[01:53] Wol Euler: goodnight eliza, sleep well
[01:54] Kiremimi Tigerpaw: bye Eliza
[01:54] Eliza Madrigal: thanks, nite everyone
[01:54] Pema Pera: actually Kire and I are also about to get up here -- nice seeing you all here!
[01:54] Kiremimi Tigerpaw: Nice to see you, Wol, and glad we meet each other
[01:54] Wol Euler: indeed
[01:54] Wol Euler: next time, we can talk a little longer - if your connection holds :)
[01:55] Wol Euler: it was good to see you both again, if briefly
[01:55] Kiremimi Tigerpaw: nice to see Agatha,
[01:55] Agatha Macbeth: Bye Liz, slep well
[01:55] Kiremimi Tigerpaw: bye
[01:55] Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now
[01:55] Wol Euler: sleep well :)
[01:55] Pema Pera: bfn
[01:55] Agatha Macbeth: You too Pem

[01:58] Wol Euler: what's the plan for today?
[01:58] Agatha Macbeth: Er...
[01:58] Agatha Macbeth: Usual I guess, until Adams time
[01:59] Wol Euler sighs
[01:59] Agatha Macbeth: then guardian meeting
[01:59] Wol Euler: sorry to miss that, especially after telling Adams I'd give moral support
[01:59] Agatha Macbeth: I was thinking of getting new hair too
[01:59] Wol Euler: but it's 4pm, middle of the working day
[01:59] Wol Euler: oh! nice idea
[01:59] Agatha Macbeth: Yep
[01:59] Agatha Macbeth: You'll be there in spirit
[01:59] Wol Euler: indeed

[02:01] Agatha Macbeth: What do you think of this?
[02:02] Wol Euler: you've worn that before, or somebody has
[02:02] Wol Euler: paradise maybe?
[02:02] Wol Euler: nice style, I like it
[02:02] Agatha Macbeth: Think Para has it yes
[02:02] Agatha Macbeth: How about this...
[02:02] Wol Euler: the colour is good, Emotions does very good reds, rich
[02:03] Agatha Macbeth: Which do you tthink is better?
[02:03] Wol Euler: hmmmmmmmm
[02:04] Wol Euler: the other is interesting
[02:04] Agatha Macbeth: I'm pretty useless at making my mind up about anything
[02:04] Wol Euler: the asymmetry
[02:04] Wol Euler: yeah, this one
[02:04] Wol Euler: go for it :)
[02:04] Agatha Macbeth: You think?
[02:04] Wol Euler: I do, but I don't hvae to wear it :)
[02:05] Wol Euler: if you are uncomfortable then don't
[02:05] Agatha Macbeth: No, I like them both
[02:06] Wol Euler: buy both :)
[02:06] Wol Euler: this is "normal", easy to wear in any setting
[02:06] Agatha Macbeth: We're not all Howard Hughes dear ;-)
[02:06] Wol Euler: the ohter is more formal
[02:06] Wol Euler: what is this now? a third?
[02:07] Agatha Macbeth: No, the second one again
[02:07] Wol Euler: huh, viewer tricks, I thought you had this on already
[02:07] Agatha Macbeth: Quick change artist
[02:08] Agatha Macbeth: Well, to avoid clashing with Para, think I'll go for this one
[02:08] Agatha Macbeth: Thanks for your input
[02:08] Wol Euler: my pleasure
[02:08] Wol Euler: but speaking of input I need some food before work
[02:08] Agatha Macbeth: Us girls eh? [grin]
[02:08] Wol Euler: heheheheh
[02:08] Wol Euler: but being howard hughes I do just buy both :)
[02:08] Agatha Macbeth pokes you
[02:08] Wol Euler grins.
[02:09] Agatha Macbeth: The overloaded architect
[02:09] Agatha Macbeth: +h
[02:09] Wol Euler: hoverloaded?
[02:09] Agatha Macbeth: As well
[02:09] Wol Euler: heheh
[02:09] Agatha Macbeth: :D
[02:10] Wol Euler: no, where does the H go?
[02:10] Agatha Macbeth: 7sm
[02:10] Wol Euler: :-P
[02:10] Agatha Macbeth: Aren't there 2 h's?
[02:10] Wol Euler: nope
[02:10] Agatha Macbeth: Oh
[02:10] Wol Euler: escept in Howard Hughes
[02:10] Wol Euler: actually not even there.
[02:10] Agatha Macbeth: Huckleberry Hound?
[02:10] Wol Euler: better
[02:10] Agatha Macbeth: Oh ma darlin

[02:11] Agatha Macbeth: Let me try K's cushion
[02:11] Agatha Macbeth: Aha
[02:12] Agatha Macbeth: I like this
[02:12] Wol Euler smiles.
[02:17] Agatha Macbeth: For some reason, it always goes back to this
[02:17] Wol Euler: oh didn't you change it?
[02:17] Agatha Macbeth: Scripting thing maybe
[02:17] Wol Euler: perhaps it's on a timer
[02:17] Agatha Macbeth: Nope
[02:17] Wol Euler: huh

[02:17] Wol Euler: I'd call that a bug personally
[02:18] Wol Euler: if you (script) offer me a choice, you should then respect that choice
[02:18] Agatha Macbeth: 'It's not a bug it's a feature'
[02:18] Agatha Macbeth: :p
[02:19] Wol Euler: heheheh

[02:19] Agatha Macbeth: Yes, they must be on a sequential timer
[02:19] Agatha Macbeth: You'd think you would get an option at least
[02:20] Wol Euler: bug
[02:20] Agatha Macbeth gets the spray out
[02:21] Agatha Macbeth: Are you off to eat then?
[02:21] Wol Euler: yeah, afraid so
[02:21] Wol Euler: enjoy your day off, and please go support adams
[02:21] Agatha Macbeth: Actually I need the toilet meself
[02:21] Agatha Macbeth: I will :)
[02:21] Wol Euler: she was pretty worried about the reception she'd get
[02:21] Agatha Macbeth: Oh I think it'll go ok
[02:21] Wol Euler: anticipating people feeling threatened or attacked, and responding accordingly
[02:22] Wol Euler: which is why I wanted to be there
[02:22] Agatha Macbeth: Well one can't allow for others' reactions
[02:22] Wol Euler: indeed
[02:22] Wol Euler: but one can expel and ban the fuckers :)
[02:22] Agatha Macbeth: Just go with the flow
[02:23] Agatha Macbeth: Oh I don't think she'll need to go that far :D
[02:23] Wol Euler: :)
[02:23] Wol Euler: anyway, I must go
[02:23] Wol Euler: bye, dear aggers, enjoy the da
[02:23] Agatha Macbeth: Yep, c ya
[02:23] Wol Euler: +y
[02:23] Agatha Macbeth: U2
[02:23] Agatha Macbeth: Work well
[02:23] Wol Euler: I shall :)