2012.05.05 07:00 - Prejudices

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Xirana Oximoxi, joined by Golden and Zon.

    Xirana Oximoxi: hi Golden :)
    Golden Aura: Hi Xirana
    Golden Aura: What's the topic?
    Xirana Oximoxi: nice and sexi as always :)
    Golden Aura: Thanks
    Golden Aura grins
    Xirana Oximoxi: the topic was in my mind:)
    Xirana Oximoxi: I was reading what had happened here this week...as I have not been here a lot:)
    Xirana Oximoxi: that's one of the useful things about the logs:)
    Golden Aura nods
    Xirana Oximoxi: do you bring a topic?
    Golden Aura: No, not really...I just come here to test my understanding
    Xirana Oximoxi: understanding about what?
    Golden Aura: Life, the universe...everything
    Golden Aura laughs
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes... /me laughts too :)


    Xirana Oximoxi: so, have it been useful to your understanding to come here before?
    Golden Aura: No, it only confirmed my prejudices
    Xirana Oximoxi: well... in Spanish we say 'algo es algo' ... more or less... = that's more than nothing:)
    Xirana Oximoxi: :)
    Golden Aura: I guess so
    Golden Aura: That's why I came back
    Xirana Oximoxi: what are your prejudices?...sometimes is good not to have it and try to see everything with 'new' eyes
    Xirana Oximoxi: not sure if possible
    Golden Aura: Most people are idiots...and very few have a proper understanding
    Xirana Oximoxi: hmmm... well.... now if I associate it with your comment before...I must understand that here we are also 'idiots' and don't have a proper understanding:)...(if that's what you discovered here!

    Xirana Oximoxi: hello Zon :)

    Zon Kwan: heya
    Golden Aura: No...I said MOST, not all
    Xirana Oximoxi: ok ok :)
    --BELL--


    Xirana Oximoxi: well... I never think of me as a special clever person ...

    Xirana Oximoxi: we have just begin to talk about prejudices and what can we find coming here Zon
    Zon Kwan: prejudices hm
    Xirana Oximoxi: I suppose we all have some really deep in our mind
    Xirana Oximoxi: some prejudices I mean
    Zon Kwan: nods
    Golden Aura: They don't have to be that deep....
    Xirana Oximoxi: education, culture...
    Zon Kwan: conditioning
    Golden Aura: I know some of my prejudices...for example...
    Xirana Oximoxi: most of them maybe we are not aware of
    Golden Aura: I said that most people who come here are idiots...
    Golden Aura: Xirana has already helped to confirm part of that view by admitting that she doesn't think she is clever...
    Xirana Oximoxi: that's not a prejudice...that's nearly an insult
    Golden Aura: what about you Zon?
    Zon Kwan: me..having prejudices ?
    Zon Kwan: or being an idiot ?
    Golden Aura: No, do you think you are clever?
    Zon Kwan: depends
    Zon Kwan: who i am with
    Golden Aura laughs
    Xirana Oximoxi: how do you define to be 'clever' Golden
    Xirana Oximoxi: ?
    Golden Aura: I don't....I just know an idiot when I see one
    Xirana Oximoxi: ok


    Golden Aura: sorry..crashed
    Xirana Oximoxi: np :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: welcome back:)
    Golden Aura: thanks
    Golden Aura: .
    Xirana Oximoxi: yw:)


    Xirana Oximoxi: if you want to explain better your point of view...maybe I will be able to understand what do you want to mean:)...if not no worries..I understand my way:)
    Golden Aura: Another way of putting it is that I find that most people who I have met here are not very far along the path to awareness...
    Golden Aura: one or two are though
    Xirana Oximoxi: well...said that way I understand in another sense what you have said:)
    Zon Kwan: but then you can perhaps push them a little forward
    Xirana Oximoxi: one of the things I like coming here is diversity
    --BELL--
    Golden Aura: I am not particularly interested in pushing anyone else forward...i want to meet people who are further ahead
    Zon Kwan: thats difficult
    Xirana Oximoxi: and probably some of us are exploring, learning... trying to understand behaviours, different points of view, etc.
    Golden Aura: I agree..but I don't find it particularly helpful for me
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes...each one must value how helpful is for oneself
    Xirana Oximoxi: a lot of times when we have discussions here...we are aware that we don't have the answers
    Xirana Oximoxi: but we learn anyway something...that's why we come back and share thoughts
    Xirana Oximoxi: I am using the 'we'...but I mean 'I' :)
    Zon Kwan: nods..every day..every person is able to teach something
    Golden Aura: Yes...that's why I come back...at least some of you are making an effort
    Golden Aura: I am not sure that every person is able to teach something useful
    Zon Kwan: depends on your mind
    Golden Aura: They might just teach me that they are an idiot
    Zon Kwan: they they teach you patience
    Golden Aura: It doesn't depend on my mind...it depends on whether they have anything of worth to contribute
    Zon Kwan: disagrees
    Xirana Oximoxi: maybe not everyone can express so well....
    Golden Aura: They dont teach me patience...i just want to punch them
    Zon Kwan: lol
    Zon Kwan: well they try
    Xirana Oximoxi: and I also appreciate sharing non important things, dayly matters
    Golden Aura: If things are unimportant why share them?
    Golden Aura: That's just rude
    Zon Kwan: cause that can be important
    Xirana Oximoxi: I've said it wrong...'unimportant' is not the right adjective, sorry... I meant 'dayly and quotidien matters'
    Golden Aura: Ok...sure...there's nothing wrong with sharing and appreciating the ordinary
    Xirana Oximoxi: also, when you meet the same people more oft, you like to know about their activities... how they feel... and so on. Probably if you come just time to time and we are talking about it, it sounds frivoulous
    Golden Aura: I have been a few times...the idiots haven't changed
    Xirana Oximoxi: I don't have this impression...but I try to understand your point:)
    Xirana Oximoxi: well... then it's strange you come back:)
    Golden Aura: ....I live in hope
    Golden Aura laughs
    Zon Kwan: never hope
    Xirana Oximoxi: then, maybe your contributions will make us more clever :)
    Golden Aura: You never know
    Golden Aura grins
    Zon Kwan: always brings dissapoinment
    Golden Aura: Yeah, Zon...they 'hope' thing was a turn of phrase
    --BELL--
    Xirana Oximoxi: I will go now...I wish you a nice day! :)
    Zon Kwan: must run too
    Zon Kwan: see you
    Golden Aura: It was nice talking with you Xirana
    Golden Aura: You too Zon
    Xirana Oximoxi: see you Zon and Golden :)
    Golden Aura: Bye
    Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye

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    /me feeling incredibly impressed by Xiri's patience and kindness in this session.
    I wonder how far along one has to be on the path of awareness before they see nearly everyone else as an idiot... edited 16:30, 5 May 2012
    Posted 16:28, 5 May 2012
    Agree ~ impressive guardianship, and in addition to patience and kindness, I would add insightful intelligence, balance, and discerning use of English language. I will try and remember this new saying "algo es algo", which inspired me to look up sayings about guests, respect, manners, and.. idiots. This one struck me as funny: "I'm not a complete idiot--Some parts are missing!" Author: Unknown :)
    Posted 19:11, 5 May 2012
    Thanks Xiri - you gave a perfect demonstation of equanimity. I applaud your gentleness and composure!
    Posted 02:12, 6 May 2012
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