2012.05.15 07:00 - Being Augmented

Eliza posted this session from the auto-listener database...

[07:03] Bleu Oleander: hiya Riddle :)
[07:03] Riddle Sideways: Hi Bleu
[07:04] Riddle Sideways: you're all black and white blue
[07:04] Riddle Sideways: today
[07:04] Bleu Oleander: yes ... some shades of grey too
[07:05] Riddle Sideways: fun reading :The Night Circus" right now
[07:05] Bleu Oleander: a novel?
[07:05] Riddle Sideways: in it, the fan club members wear black and white
[07:05] Riddle Sideways: and one red item
[07:06] Riddle Sideways: a fantasy novel
[07:06] Riddle Sideways: magic
[07:06] Bleu Oleander: looks good ... I should read more fiction
[07:06] Riddle Sideways: need light reads too
[07:06] Bleu Oleander: exactly
[07:07] Bleu Oleander: am reading the screenplay for "Red"
[07:07] Bleu Oleander: going to see it friday
[07:07] Riddle Sideways: ah, good
[07:07] Riddle Sideways: you are in NY?
[07:07] Bleu Oleander: also reading "Incomplete Nature"
[07:07] Bleu Oleander: no back in Phx
[07:08] Bleu Oleander: by T. Deacon ... at UC Berkeley
[07:08] Riddle Sideways: that looks really good
[07:08] Bleu Oleander: very interesting book!

[07:09] Riddle Sideways: funny, don't need to ask what is it. Just look it up in another window
[07:09] Bleu Oleander: yes :)
[07:10] Riddle Sideways: with wearable computers we will be doing that in RL
[07:10] Riddle Sideways: soon will be Google glasses
[07:10] Riddle Sideways: enhanced reality
[07:10] Bleu Oleander: http://fora.tv/2012/04/18/Incomplete...ed_From_Matter
[07:10] Bleu Oleander: great talk by him
[07:11] Bleu Oleander: could use a pair of those glasses!
[07:11] Bleu Oleander: haha
[07:11] Riddle Sideways: ty for url, better then Amazon :)
[07:11] Bleu Oleander: many time it is :)

[07:11] Riddle Sideways: is not a light read
[07:12] Bleu Oleander: no, but very unique ... had not heard this kind of idea before

[07:13] Bleu Oleander: I surprise myself sometimes by understanding what I think will be a difficult book
[07:13] Riddle Sideways: think maybe we heard him speak last year
[07:13] Bleu Oleander: nice!
[07:13] Riddle Sideways: during parent weekend
[07:14] Riddle Sideways: know a kid graduating in a related department
[07:16] Riddle Sideways: Nope, different prof. Adam is in the sleep/dream studies

[07:17] Riddle Sideways: this gadget named a 'phone' can do augmented reality too
[07:17] Bleu Oleander: :)
[07:17] Riddle Sideways: been playing with some of the project
[07:17] Bleu Oleander: Art of Being?
[07:18] Riddle Sideways: sorry, no. That is in the thinking mode.
[07:18] Riddle Sideways: Is your's done?
[07:18] Bleu Oleander: haha no not yet
[07:18] Riddle Sideways: better question would be how many you are doing
[07:19] Bleu Oleander: been out of town and am trying to catch up now
[07:19] Bleu Oleander: def doing 1 ... maybe 2

[07:20] Riddle Sideways: am stuck on the first 'motion' photographs
[07:20] Riddle Sideways: proving the all 4 legs of a horse can be off the ground
[07:20] Riddle Sideways: single frames, very old
[07:20] Bleu Oleander: yes
[07:21] Bleu Oleander: that reminds me ... I need to send out a reminder email
[07:21] Bleu Oleander: coming up June 3 ...
[07:22] Riddle Sideways: hard to come up with an miage of between motions

[07:22] Bleu Oleander: between motions ... interesting

[07:23] Riddle Sideways: ah, maybe image of Bleu with pencil poised over the To-Do list
[07:23] Bleu Oleander: haha!
[07:25] Riddle Sideways: Hi Hana
[07:25] Hana Furlough: Hi Riddle!
[07:25] Hana Furlough: Hi Bleu!
[07:25] Hana Furlough: Hi Yaku!
[07:25] Riddle Sideways: btw - daughter decided not to go to Arcosanti this summer
[07:25] Riddle Sideways: Hi Yak
[07:26] Bleu Oleander: hi Hana, Yaku
[07:26] Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
[07:26] Bleu Oleander: nice to see you Hana
[07:26] Bleu Oleander: and Yaku :)
[07:26] Hana Furlough: and you, Bleu : )
[07:28] Riddle Sideways: seems pleasant greetings still us
[07:28] Riddle Sideways: or it was the between motion point
[07:28] Bleu Oleander: sorry, multi tasking
[07:28] Hana Furlough: ^^

[07:28] Yakuzza Lethecus: googling about arcosanti atm, didn´t you go there last year riddle ?
[07:29] Yakuzza Lethecus: or bleu have you and or ur group ever been there ?
[07:29] Bleu Oleander: been there many times
[07:29] Riddle Sideways: Yak, you have an amazing memory
[07:29] Hana Furlough: where's that?
[07:29] Bleu Oleander: Paolo Soleri has done several salons for us
[07:29] Riddle Sideways: construction of an architecture city in the desert
[07:30] Bleu Oleander: it's in Arizona
[07:30] Yakuzza Lethecus: just reading about his ,,school of thought"

[07:31] Riddle Sideways: thinking about Augmented Reality and how we keep a browser up next to SL viewer
[07:31] Riddle Sideways: to look things up
[07:31] Riddle Sideways: how we keep a smartphone
[07:32] Riddle Sideways: under the table to look things up
[07:32] Riddle Sideways: soon the Google glasses will look up people's names
[07:32] Bleu Oleander: no need to keep it all in the mind anymore :)
[07:32] Riddle Sideways: from their face recognition
[07:33] Yakuzza Lethecus: i wonder why there aren´t helmet´s where you can just put in ur smartphone to use it as vr helmet since the sensors are in most phones now, but somehow i didn´t find one with google

[07:34] Riddle Sideways: they leaked about the glasses a couple weeks ago
[07:34] Riddle Sideways: whatshisname showed up at a party wearing them
[07:35] Bleu Oleander: :)
[07:35] Riddle Sideways: regular glasses with a little HUD added
[07:36] Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, that i´ve seen from google
[07:36] Yakuzza Lethecus: and there is also a professional vr helmet from google
[07:36] Yakuzza Lethecus: well android
[07:36] Yakuzza Lethecus: other company tho
[07:36] Riddle Sideways: yes, a couple different android projects

[07:37] Yakuzza Lethecus: being augmented
[07:38] Riddle Sideways: Being augmented
[07:38] Hana Furlough: ^^
[07:38] Riddle Sideways: /wondering
[07:40] Yakuzza Lethecus: actually me too, issue about augmenting life or entertainment
[07:41] Riddle Sideways: knowing the names and ages of the children of the person that just walked into the converstaion
[07:41] Riddle Sideways: or not needed to use those parts of brain anymore
[07:42] Riddle Sideways: too plugged in
[07:42] Riddle Sideways: or part of the expanded knowledge base
[07:42] Riddle Sideways: hive-mind

[07:42] Bleu Oleander: in keeping with the theme this week, are we passing off judgements to technology?
[07:42] Riddle Sideways: oh, very good bleu
[07:43] Bleu Oleander: are there inherent judgements programmed into tech?
[07:43] Riddle Sideways: should we now make judgements
[07:43] Yakuzza Lethecus: Till a coronal mass ejection distorts the mobile uplink to the could and everyone is screwed and doens´t know how to judge on anything himself

[07:46] Riddle Sideways: the objects, tech, others seem not to have inherent judgements programmed in. That is left to the beholder.
[07:47] Bleu Oleander: or the programmer?
[07:48] Riddle Sideways: usually programmer just leaves it as a command line configurable parameter :)
[07:50] PaB Listener: Holysea Resident's current display-name is "Holysea".

[07:51] Bleu Oleander: so maybe what I was thinking was that programmer could make judgements about how or what to include in tech?
[07:51] Bleu Oleander: or maybe I don't know what i'm talking about ... hehe
[07:51] Bleu Oleander: early yet
[07:51] Bleu Oleander: haven't had my second cup of coffee :)

[07:52] Hana Furlough: i should get going
[07:52] Hana Furlough: nice chatting with you all
[07:52] Bleu Oleander: nice to see you Hana
[07:52] Hana Furlough: bye!
[07:52] Riddle Sideways: bye
[07:52] Yakuzza Lethecus: bye hana

[07:53] Yakuzza Lethecus: http://earthsky.org/space/huge-sunsp...roduce-x-flare
[07:53] Yakuzza Lethecus: i read about a large solar flare the other day
[07:54] Yakuzza Lethecus: and that it might distort mobile networks, that´s why i had that in mind when musing on the cloud :P

[07:54] Riddle Sideways: remember when musing on clouds meant something different
[07:54] Bleu Oleander: :)
[07:55] Yakuzza Lethecus smiles

[07:56] Riddle Sideways: maybe Life and Being are always poised between disasters
[07:57] Riddle Sideways: depending on things that could be disrupted
[07:58] Riddle Sideways: survival by only those that can adapt to life without smartphones

[07:59] Riddle Sideways: hmmm, does the Cloud have silver linings or create storms
[07:59] Bleu Oleander: :)

[08:02] Bleu Oleander: have to get to work ... nice to see you both :)
[08:02] Bleu Oleander: take care
[08:02] Yakuzza Lethecus: bye you two
[08:02] Bleu Oleander: bye bye
[08:02] Riddle Sideways: bye ya'll
[08:02] Riddle Sideways: and thanks
[08:02] Bleu Oleander: thank you!