2012.05.23 13:00 - Mesh, Markets, Money Can't Buy

Eliza posted this session to the auto-listener database...

And Fefonz updated from the original chat log :)

Wol Euler: hello fef
Fefonz Quan: hello Wol!
Wol Euler: it seems like a while since we last met
--BELL--
Fefonz Quan: I'm just waiting for the balls to coutionize
Wol Euler wonders whether they have done that yet.
Fefonz Quan: well I am sitting, right? :0
Wol Euler: oh, now I understand what you meant :)
Wol Euler chuckles.
Wol Euler: I couldn't figure out what balls you meant
Fefonz Quan: i see, hehe
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: so, how's the beach?
Fefonz Quan: great, not that it sees a lot of me lately
Wol Euler smiles.
Fefonz Quan: though ewe celebrated our wedding anniversary on the place wehere we went once
Wol Euler: the Manta Ray?
Fefonz Quan: aright! you have a good nenory
Wol Euler: yeah :)
Wol Euler: it's funny, I was thinking about that evening just a few days ago
Wol Euler: it was a wonderful evening with you two, and a great meal
Wol Euler: hello san
Fefonz Quan: yes it was!
Santoshima Resident: hello wol and fefonz
Fefonz Quan: hello san
Wol Euler: that was an aspect of Tel Aviv that surprised me: the quality of the food was uniformly very high
Wol Euler: I had many excellent meals there
Wol Euler: (Fef and Mrs. Fef met in Tel Aviv when I was there, what was that? two years ago nearly?
Wol Euler: *I met them
Santoshima Resident: lovely
Fefonz Quan: I thin so, yeah
Wol Euler: it was :)
Wol Euler: we drove to the beach, and had a superb meal in a fish restaurant, as the sky turned to black above us
Fefonz Quan: maybe the last time I saw A Pabonout in Rl...
Wol Euler smiles.
Fefonz Quan: I miss the capability of just going out to dinner whenever you want, no pre-arrangements needed
Wol Euler: heheh
Wol Euler: give her a few years, and then you can just take her with you
Wol Euler: but it is different, yes, I see that with my friends who have kids
Fefonz Quan: few years - talking about delaying your needs (or whatever it is called in english)
Wol Euler: heheheh
Wol Euler: "postponed gratification"
Wol Euler: hello bleu
Bleu Oleander: hi everyone :)
Wol Euler: pierrot bleu
Fefonz Quan: hello bleu
Santoshima Resident: hi Bleu
Bleu Oleander: :)
--BELL--
Fefonz Quan: you are so white (and black) today
Bleu Oleander: as in "it's not all .... "
Wol Euler: definitely not all :)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Bleu Oleander: how are your Art of Being in Motion art works coming along?
Wol Euler shuffles her feet
Santoshima Resident: urmmm
Bleu Oleander: nice
Wol Euler: sorry :)
Santoshima Resident: alas
Wol Euler: I won't be here, alas, I shall be halfway to Canada
Bleu Oleander: ah actually in motion
Wol Euler: I still might make something this weekend
Wol Euler: yes :)
Wol Euler: actually that might be a good idea ...
Bleu Oleander: :)
Bleu Oleander: Wol, I think you should model your outfit for us ...
Santoshima Resident: yes, please
Bleu Oleander: quite dramatique
Santoshima Resident: { was too shy to ask }
Bleu Oleander: :)
Bleu Oleander: *•.¸('*•.¸ ♥ ¸.•*´)¸.•*
Bleu Oleander: woo hoo
Bleu Oleander: ¸.•*(¸.•*´ ♥ `*•.¸)`*•.¸
Wol Euler: just the feathesrs, really, there rest is a plain if lacy catsuit
Santoshima Resident: boots with sound!
Bleu Oleander: lovely!
Santoshima Resident: yeah
Wol Euler: alas :( I hate it, but can't turn it off :(
Bleu Oleander: a vision in feathers and lace
Fefonz Quan: brb
Wol Euler smiles and curtseys
Wol Euler: it was a freebie, even, if I remember rightly
Wol Euler: or a group gift
Bleu Oleander: no need to tell fashion secrets :)
Wol Euler smiles.
Bleu Oleander: it goes no further than here .... hehe
Wol Euler nods.
Bleu Oleander: not such a high level topic ... but have any of you tried mesh clothing?
Wol Euler: yes, I have a few items
Bleu Oleander: like?
Wol Euler: middling only
Santoshima Resident: only a little, ill-fitting things
Wol Euler: it seems to lack the fine tuning of regular prim items
Agatha Macbeth: Evening all
Bleu Oleander: hi Agatha
Wol Euler: hello aggers
Santoshima Resident: greetings agatha
Bleu Oleander: i've found that also
Wol Euler: the way makers can put togehter dozens of little prims to make a complex whole
Wol Euler: is not available to a mesh garmet
Santoshima Resident: what's the appeal? if any
Wol Euler: hard to say, really :)
Wol Euler: I suppose if you don'T want intricate detail, then they are okay
Wol Euler: certainly they mold themselves to your form better than conventional prims do -- within limits
Wol Euler: but I am not convinced
--BELL--
Wol Euler: aggers? what is your experience of mesh clothing?
Bleu Oleander: pearls ... how classic Aggers
Agatha Macbeth: Thank you :)
Agatha Macbeth: I do try
Wol Euler smiles.
Bleu Oleander: ty!
Agatha Macbeth: Eh? Mesh clothes?
Agatha Macbeth: Dunno the difference with normal stuff
Wol Euler: brb, sometjing in my ey
Agatha Macbeth: Except a lot of viweres can't even see it, which seems a bit silly
Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
Agatha Macbeth hopes Wol can see ok
Wol Euler: yes thanks :)
Wol Euler: much better
Bleu Oleander: phew!
Agatha Macbeth: Yay *hug*
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: What actually *is* the difference anyway?
Santoshima Resident: teh mesh clothes don't fit
Wol Euler: heheheheheh
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Bleu Oleander: ha!
Wol Euler: yes but no :)
Agatha Macbeth: well that helps :p
Bleu Oleander: don't like mesh hair either
Wol Euler: normal prims are relatively simple geometric shapes, which hover more or less near your body
Agatha Macbeth: Isn't it supposed to make life easier for the designers or something?
Wol Euler: which is why many people need to edit prim clothing, to move them around
Wol Euler: in theory, yes
Agatha Macbeth nods
Bleu Oleander: can't adjust mesh stuff, right?
Santoshima Resident: right
Wol Euler: because mesh is a way of making a clothing object stretch around your body like slider clothes do
Wol Euler: it can be made to move with you
Agatha Macbeth: How do the prims themselves differ?
Wol Euler: prim skirts, your legs show through them when you dance
Wol Euler: a mesh object is fitted to your joints, and moves with you
Agatha Macbeth: Yes :(
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, right
Wol Euler: let me put one on and show you
Bleu Oleander loves a fashion show
Santoshima Resident: ditto
Agatha Macbeth: Can you rebake when you put it on pls? Laggy here as usual
Wol Euler: talk amonsgst yourselves while I hunt it down
Agatha Macbeth: Read any good books lately?
Bleu Oleander: yes actually
Agatha Macbeth: Ooh
Agatha Macbeth: Tell us more Bleu
Wol Euler listens.
Bleu Oleander: "what money can't buy"
Agatha Macbeth: Is that the title?
Bleu Oleander: the reach of the markets
Bleu Oleander: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Bleu Oleander: by Sandel
Wol Euler: Michael Sandel, the lawyer?
Bleu Oleander: how we create markets for everything
Bleu Oleander: yes
Wol Euler: wow
Wol Euler: one of my heroes
Agatha Macbeth: Interesting
Bleu Oleander: pretty interesting the section on insurance
Bleu Oleander: always knew I didn't like it
Agatha Macbeth: Ha
Bleu Oleander: but now I really don't
Bleu Oleander: betting on death
Bleu Oleander: lots I was not aware of
Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
Bleu Oleander: what are the moral limits of markets?
Agatha Macbeth: Does it have any?
Bleu Oleander: that's the question
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Santoshima Resident: dreams, illusions and other realities / wendy doniger o'flaherty
Fefonz Quan: sounds intruiging
Santoshima Resident: ahh, the mesh dress has arraived
Wol Euler: so, mesh. and when I walk...
Santoshima Resident: ah, nice
Bleu Oleander: ah yes nice
Wol Euler: it walks with me
Agatha Macbeth: Unfortunately it still looks blurred
Wol Euler: other htan that, san was right, they are *barely* adjustable
Bleu Oleander: so some applications maybe ok?
Wol Euler: zoom in and have a close look at the bodice
Fefonz Quan: i see a big dark egg around you Wol
Wol Euler: exactly :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, you must have Viewer 1 Fonz
Bleu Oleander: need a mesh-friendly viewer
Wol Euler: you need a new viewer to seee it
Agatha Macbeth: I can see it ok with Phoenix
Agatha Macbeth: but just out of focus
Fefonz Quan: ah-ha
Santoshima Resident: mesh is for animation, body size needs to be adjusted, rather than the mesh clothing
--BELL--
Wol Euler: yep
Wol Euler: and who would do that? absurd!
Bleu Oleander: exactly
Agatha Macbeth: So instead of adjusting the clothes you have to adjust your own shape?
Wol Euler: yep
Wol Euler: or you have gaps like I do around the cleavage
Bleu Oleander: for later: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...for-sale/8902/
Agatha Macbeth coughs
Wol Euler: where the bgody alpha mask doesn't meet the shape
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds hideously impractical
Wol Euler: ty bleu
Bleu Oleander: yw!
Wol Euler: I think the advantages are far outweighed by the disadvantages
Wol Euler: but it's new! and exciting!
Agatha Macbeth: That's ok then :p
Wol Euler shrugs.
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Wol Euler: and who knows, perhaps it will be improved
Agatha Macbeth: In theory, yes
Wol Euler: the first mesh release didn't even follow body joints, if I remember rightly
Agatha Macbeth: OMG
Bleu Oleander: yikes
Fefonz Quan: (I'll go to sleep a little earlier tonight, good night all!)
Santoshima Resident: rest well, fefonz ~
Bleu Oleander: nite Fef :)
Wol Euler: goodnight fefonz, hugs to the family
Agatha Macbeth: Night Fonzie, sorry to bore you with girl talk ;-)
Fefonz Quan: will do
Wol Euler smiles.
Bleu Oleander: guys do mesh too?
Fefonz Quan: Ah, not at all Aga
Agatha Macbeth: Who knows/
Wol Euler: it's coming :)
Agatha Macbeth: ?
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Wol Euler: actually ther is one applicaiton for mesh that I can see working much better than normal prims: high boots
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds good :)
Wol Euler: they'd actually follow your knees and ankes!
Agatha Macbeth: Whoa
Bleu Oleander: ah yes
Agatha Macbeth: Gimme
Wol Euler: really :)
Bleu Oleander: but only if everyone can see them
Wol Euler: heh, yes
Bleu Oleander: Storm took a photo of my mesh boots and I was horrified
Wol Euler: but the Lab will drop support for v1 sometime soon, so people will have to update
Agatha Macbeth: Well I think only LL V1 and imprudence aren't mesh capable now
Agatha Macbeth: Do you think people will leave SL if that happens/
Agatha Macbeth: ?
Wol Euler: nah
Agatha Macbeth: It really wouldn't be a good idea to drive people away with all the abandoned land around
Bleu Oleander: are they still auctioning land?
Agatha Macbeth: Not sure Bleu
Agatha Macbeth: but there's an awful lot of yellow on the map
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: Just look around here
Bleu Oleander: yes, used to be some purple but don't see that anymore
Agatha Macbeth: The sim N of Bieup, half of it seems be for sale
Wol Euler: there's some in Jirisan, southeast of here; but veyr little compared to the yellow
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Wol Euler: which suggests to me that people are not abandoning their land, at laest not here
Agatha Macbeth: Hmm, not sure
Wol Euler: yellow means "sale by owner"
Wol Euler: so still owned
Agatha Macbeth: But abandoned too?
Wol Euler: if abandoned, then ther is no owner
Wol Euler: cannot be yellow
Agatha Macbeth: Why does it say abandoned in the title bar then?
Agatha Macbeth scratches her head
Bleu Oleander: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/E...nd/ta-p/846143
Agatha Macbeth: Ah thanks
Bleu Oleander: looks like you can just purchase abandoned land
Agatha Macbeth: I've never understood property
Agatha Macbeth: But not really necessary since i don't own any
Santoshima Resident: nor i
Wol Euler smiles.
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Agatha Macbeth: Why burden yourself with unecessary possessions?
Wol Euler: in my case it was self-defence
Agatha Macbeth: Eh?
Wol Euler: the land I was living on was about to be sold to god-knows-whom, who would highly likely kick me off or start charging a huge rent
Wol Euler: so I bought it
Agatha Macbeth: Which land was this?
Wol Euler: Mugunghwa
Agatha Macbeth: Oh that strip of land/
Agatha Macbeth: ?
Agatha Macbeth: (damn)
Wol Euler: that "strip of land" is a half sim
Agatha Macbeth: Was it?
Agatha Macbeth: God
Bleu Oleander: lovely half sim :)
Wol Euler: I own half of Mugunghwa
Agatha Macbeth: Didn't realise it was that big
Bleu Oleander: I only own a teensy portion of Mugunghwa
Wol Euler nods.
Santoshima Resident: nice name
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, it's lovely
Wol Euler: storm landscaped it, when Pema / Kira owned it all
Bleu Oleander: did a great job
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Santoshima Resident: and installed sea snakes!
Wol Euler: yes :)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Santoshima Resident: amazing
Agatha Macbeth: I love the lighthouse
Bleu Oleander: its nice to have neighbors you know
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: I like Adams' birds
Agatha Macbeth: Loons
Bleu Oleander: :)
Wol Euler: oh, haven't heard them
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh, they're cute
Wol Euler makes a note
Agatha Macbeth: C sharp
Wol Euler: boom boom
Agatha Macbeth pokes you in the ear
Bleu Oleander: thanks for the fashion tips :) take care all
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Bleu, have fun
Bleu Oleander: bye bye
Santoshima Resident: ciao for now ~ bye all
Wol Euler: bye bleu, tzake care
Wol Euler: -z
Agatha Macbeth: You too San
Agatha Macbeth: How iz we today?
Wol Euler: hot and tired
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Wol Euler: the weather is fatigueing
Agatha Macbeth: It's warm here too
Wol Euler: warm and sticky :/
Wol Euler: very high humidity
Agatha Macbeth: not that I'm complaining
Agatha Macbeth: You are further south than me I think
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Wol Euler: quite a bit actually
Wol Euler: south of paris
Agatha Macbeth: Dunno the exact distance
Agatha Macbeth: I'll look it up
Wol Euler: nor I, I'd have to look at the map to figure it out
Agatha Macbeth: How far ASL in Stuttgart?
Agatha Macbeth: is*
Agatha Macbeth: (not in)
Wol Euler: what does that mean?
Agatha Macbeth: Oh sorry - above sea level
Wol Euler: oh hehehe
Wol Euler: um, good question
Agatha Macbeth: Old surveyors phrase
Wol Euler: maybe 250 metres?
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, not as high as round here then
Wol Euler: depends where you measure it ... there's a 330 metre change in altitude within the city limits
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Wol Euler: I believe the river is around 250m ASL
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: So nowhere near the mountains then?
Wol Euler: nope
Agatha Macbeth: Shame, it would be cooler then ;-)
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: it actually snowed in the Black Forest and parts of Bavaria last week!
Agatha Macbeth: Erk
Agatha Macbeth: How far from the alps are you?
Wol Euler: hmmmm
Wol Euler: say two hours to Zurich? maybe 2.5?
Agatha Macbeth nods
Wol Euler: german hours :) 180 km/h :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, well
Agatha Macbeth: I've been in the Alps once, quite lovely
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: quite beautiful, yes, and quite varied
Agatha Macbeth: Looking down on the clouds :)
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: Munich is much closer, you can actually see the mountains from the city if you get high enough
Agatha Macbeth: Whoa
Wol Euler: basically as sooon as the plane lifts off from the airport runway, they're there.
Agatha Macbeth: OMG
Agatha Macbeth: Spooky for the pilot
Wol Euler: hehe
Wol Euler: there are many worse airports :)
Wol Euler: Santa Cruz de Tenerife, for example
Wol Euler: is on a flattened off mountain at the end of a box canyon
Agatha Macbeth: Good grief
Wol Euler: so you fly along the canyon, peaks above you, towards a wall of stone
Wol Euler: aiming to touch thte top of it
Agatha Macbeth: Or better yet *not* touch it!
Wol Euler: indeed :)
Wol Euler: JFK can be pretty nerve-wracking too, one of its runways is built into Long Island Sound, you descend towards water and hope that land appears beneath you
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Wol Euler: though that is probably worse for passengers than pilots, in contrast to Santa Cruz
Agatha Macbeth: I'm glad I don't fly!
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: more people die in bed :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, doing *what* tho? ;-)
Wol Euler: not eating bad food in a cramped seat while being coughed on
Wol Euler: probably
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, never tried that one
Agatha Macbeth: David Carradine died in a wardrobe!
Wol Euler: attacked by a lion?
Agatha Macbeth: Probably not
Agatha Macbeth swats you
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler giggles.
Agatha Macbeth: A witch maybe
Wol Euler swats you.
Agatha Macbeth: Yaaa
Agatha Macbeth: Which witch is which
Wol Euler: hoo hah, the wicked witch is dead!
Agatha Macbeth: Absolutely
Wol Euler: boxy.
Agatha Macbeth: Time for the munchkins to start dancing
Alfred Kelberry: ...
Alfred Kelberry: have no fear
Agatha Macbeth: And here's the pup himself
Alfred Kelberry: boxy is here
Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
Wol Euler: my hero!
Wol Euler bats her eyelashes.
Agatha Macbeth: Great timing as always Alf
Alfred Kelberry: *has come to save people (mostly girls)*
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Alfred Kelberry: yes, been shopping like mad
Wol Euler cheers!
Agatha Macbeth: Like mad what?
Alfred Kelberry: for the trip and about
Wol Euler: trip?
Alfred Kelberry: yes, short ranged. 700 km.
Agatha Macbeth: Doesn't sound very short to me
Alfred Kelberry: 4 days, nature and mosquitoes :)
Wol Euler: nice :)
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds wonderful
Alfred Kelberry: yep
Alfred Kelberry: got new hiking shoes
Wol Euler: break them in before you go
Agatha Macbeth: Has Korel given you any tips?
Alfred Kelberry: er, break in?
--BELL--
Wol Euler: wear them until they stop hurting
Alfred Kelberry: ah
Alfred Kelberry: i got my old ones too
Agatha Macbeth: Why does a dog need boots?
Alfred Kelberry: rhetorical question
Wol Euler: to get to the other side.
Agatha Macbeth: Don't answer it then ;-)
Alfred Kelberry: woly did for me :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Alfred Kelberry: oh, nikita is back!
Agatha Macbeth: Wol is smart
Alfred Kelberry: *admires woly's haircut*
Agatha Macbeth: Khruschev?
Wol Euler smiles.
Alfred Kelberry: gah... a way to ruin the moment, aga :)
Agatha Macbeth: Just tell him to keep his shoe on
Alfred Kelberry: it's also disturbing that you know this name
Wol Euler: Khruschev?
Agatha Macbeth: Doesn't everybody know it?
Alfred Kelberry: are you a former member of the manchester communist party? :)
Wol Euler: it would be more disturbing if somebody our age did NOT know it
Wol Euler: he was a world figure, after all
Alfred Kelberry: ah, right
Alfred Kelberry: well, i remember the world shoe
Alfred Kelberry: and corn
Alfred Kelberry: that's about it
Agatha Macbeth: Let's say he was an improvement on the one who came before!
Wol Euler: yep
Alfred Kelberry: hmm
Alfred Kelberry: ah, yes
Alfred Kelberry: that mustache person
Agatha Macbeth: Uncle Joe
Alfred Kelberry: talking about judgment
Agatha Macbeth: Yes?
Alfred Kelberry: he'd love this group
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe we should get the ouija board out and ask him?
Alfred Kelberry: me and woly would be the first to be exiled :)
Alfred Kelberry: to another sim
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: 'Hey Joe, what do you think of PaB?'
Wol Euler: "how many divisions do they have?"
Alfred Kelberry: jimmie
Agatha Macbeth: Probably say it was revisionist or something
Alfred Kelberry: i'm lost now
Alfred Kelberry: find me someone
Agatha Macbeth: Hello lost
Alfred Kelberry: oh...
Wol Euler: at some point before WW2 got raelly underway, somebody told Joe that something he proposed would offend teh Pope
Alfred Kelberry: *sees woly has changed her attire and comes closer*
Wol Euler: Joe replied, allegedly, "fuck the pope, how many divisions (soldiers) does he have?"
Alfred Kelberry: mmm, i rather like this crossed boot legs thing
Wol Euler grins.
Agatha Macbeth: Well, indeed
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like something Ian Paisley might say
Alfred Kelberry: what's with the joe?
Alfred Kelberry: i thought it was hey joe of hendrix
Wol Euler: [14:33] boxy (alfred.kelberry): that mustache person [14:33] Agatha Macbeth: Uncle Joe
Alfred Kelberry: er
Alfred Kelberry: well
Alfred Kelberry: what new stuff did you build, woly?
Wol Euler: nothing
Wol Euler: neither here nor RL
Agatha Macbeth: Build?
Wol Euler: spent the entire day doing e-mail and sorting paper
Alfred Kelberry: a lot of work
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Wol Euler: yeah
Agatha Macbeth: I would think the building comes later
Alfred Kelberry: laying pipes is harder though
Agatha Macbeth: As long as you remember to do it first
Wol Euler: harder afterwards, aye
Agatha Macbeth: Yep
Agatha Macbeth: 'Can we put the pipes on the roof please?'
Wol Euler: "sure, I'll just shift Mitt Romney's dog over a bit"
Agatha Macbeth: Ha
Agatha Macbeth: Speaking of shifting dogs...
Agatha Macbeth: let's push Alf in the fountain
Alfred Kelberry: hmm
Agatha Macbeth: You need a bath
Alfred Kelberry: aga. shift_ expectations.
Wol Euler yawns
Alfred Kelberry: yep
Wol Euler: long day
Agatha Macbeth: Hit the hay time
Wol Euler: yeppers
Wol Euler: goodnight, my dears
Wol Euler: sweet dreams
Wol Euler: be heroic
Agatha Macbeth: Schlaf gut liebchen
Wol Euler: dir auch, meine teuerste
Alfred Kelberry: i'm usually rather active in the evening after a long tiresome day
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Alf
Alfred Kelberry: boot well
Alfred Kelberry: *snuggles to woly* :)
Wol Euler: so how's the planning for Venice coming on?
Alfred Kelberry: er
Wol Euler sighs.
Alfred Kelberry: not a priority as of yet :)
--BELL--
Alfred Kelberry: btw, do you enjoy awfully smelled cheese?
Alfred Kelberry: those fancy kinds
Wol Euler: some of it,y es
Wol Euler: not all
Alfred Kelberry: bleh
Alfred Kelberry: i want to brush my teeth right away :)
Wol Euler: hehehe
Wol Euler yawns again
Wol Euler: I really do have to go
Alfred Kelberry: nothing extra special though
Wol Euler: goodnight, boxy dear.
Alfred Kelberry: ah yes
Alfred Kelberry: me too
Alfred Kelberry: soon
Alfred Kelberry: *enjoys the rear view*
Wol Euler: enjoy the evening
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Wol Euler: and have a great time on your trip to the country
Alfred Kelberry: already am :)
Wol Euler smiles.
Alfred Kelberry: thank you!