2012.11.07 13:00 - music knows no boundaries

The Guardian for this meeting was Santoshima Resident. The comments are by Santoshima Resident.

Santoshima Resident: ((( ting ))) 1 pm ~
Bees Ballinger: i think so ... yep:-)
Korel Laloix: I turned the recorder off.. sorry.
San (santoshima): np i just got here
Bees Ballinger: good ... no need for that
Korel Laloix: Turned it back on.
Bees Ballinger: :-)
Korel Laloix: Going to stay for the session?
Santoshima Resident: can't see you, where are you two sitting?
Bees Ballinger: is there a session?
Santoshima Resident: yes, welcome
Korel Laloix: Starting now.

Santoshima Resident: have you come here before?
Santoshima Resident: Bees?

Korel Laloix: brb .. at work.

Bees Ballinger: i did but a long time ago
Santoshima Resident: ok, just a reminder then: we record the chats from these meeting on a public online wiki
Bees Ballinger: we started talking about the healthcare system in the US... interesting
Santoshima Resident: are you ok with having your name and words showing there?
Bees Ballinger: i don't care about that:-)
Santoshima Resident: so it's ok with you?
Bees Ballinger: of course
Santoshima Resident: ok, thanks!

Santoshima Resident: i thought today we could do something a little different
Santoshima Resident: since there is no "assigned" topic for the week
Santoshima Resident: may I suggest something?
Bees Ballinger: yep
Santoshima Resident: { nice to meet you btw }
Bees Ballinger: well ... we just had an interesting informal talk about healthcare
Bees Ballinger: are you dutch?
Santoshima Resident: me?
Bees Ballinger: yep
Santoshima Resident: not that I know of
Santoshima Resident: are you?
Bees Ballinger: :-)
Bees Ballinger: ok ...
Bees Ballinger: no , i am belgian
Santoshima Resident: oh, ok
Santoshima Resident: wonderful that you could come here today
Santoshima Resident: how are you?
Santoshima Resident: did you want to continue talking about healthcare?
Bees Ballinger: i am fine
Bees Ballinger: well... it's interesting
Bees Ballinger: because Korel is first nation
Bees Ballinger: and we did not agree at all about how healthcare should be

Korel Laloix: brb

Bees Ballinger: and also about if positive discrimination is a good things
Bees Ballinger: thinh*
Santoshima Resident: ok
Bees Ballinger: thing ... sorry.. it's late here and my english is getting worse
Santoshima Resident: it's good so far
Santoshima Resident: take your time, i am in no rush
Bees Ballinger: but she is gone now so you can suggest other things
Santoshima Resident: oh, ok

Bees Ballinger: where are you from?
Santoshima Resident: canada
Santoshima Resident: west coast
Bees Ballinger: aha
Santoshima Resident: aha!
Bees Ballinger: i live half of the time in Canada
Santoshima Resident: sweet
Bees Ballinger: Vancouver Island
Santoshima Resident: how is that?
Santoshima Resident: ohhh
Santoshima Resident: nice place to live
Bees Ballinger: it's a culture shock for a european!
Bees Ballinger: very much

Korel Laloix: In and out.. sorry.. darn RL.

Santoshima Resident: Hmmm, yes, i can understand that

Santoshima Resident: np Korel
Santoshima Resident: come back when you can

Bees Ballinger: and the talk Korel and i had showed that too.... we europeans are réally very different
Santoshima Resident: i missed that chat, sorry
Bees Ballinger: much more "socially" oriented
Santoshima Resident: can you elaborate a little?
Bees Ballinger: well... i can talk hours about that....:-)
Santoshima Resident: sure, of course

Bees Ballinger: canadians to me have less social skills
Santoshima Resident: ah
Bees Ballinger: we are much closer to each other in Belgium
Bees Ballinger: we gather together much more
Santoshima Resident: well, I don't feel qualified to comment on either canadians or belgians
Bees Ballinger: nice food
Bees Ballinger: i miss there good food ... nice dinners ... culture, history, real good museums ... pleasure
Bees Ballinger: but i love the fantastic nature
Bees Ballinger: and space
Santoshima Resident: ah, you sure it isn't an ssue of being in your familiar territory? among friends and with cultural supports nearby?
Santoshima Resident: would hate to label all canadians as lacking in "social skills"
Bees Ballinger: i am afraid not ...
Santoshima Resident: seems a little generalized
Bees Ballinger: i know...
Bees Ballinger: i agree...

Santoshima Resident: ok
Santoshima Resident: well, my thought for today
Santoshima Resident: was a sharing
Santoshima Resident: of music
Santoshima Resident: or images or videos

Bees Ballinger: but it's an experience many europeans that i know there have

Santoshima Resident: anything that moves each of us
Santoshima Resident: and that the person before each
Santoshima Resident: allow the next person
Santoshima Resident: to select something linked in some way
Santoshima Resident: a "social game" if you will
Santoshima Resident: interested?
Santoshima Resident: the offering needs to be from the heart
Santoshima Resident: something you want to share

Bees Ballinger: i am open to it..

Santoshima Resident: great
Santoshima Resident: let's take a moment just to shift gears a little
Santoshima Resident: i'll start
Santoshima Resident: hang on
Santoshima Resident: ready?

Korel Laloix: Mostly back.

Santoshima Resident: i'll give the link
Bees Ballinger: go
Santoshima Resident: and we'll all give a count down
Santoshima Resident: so that we can watch together.
Santoshima Resident: ok?
Bees Ballinger: ok

— BELL —

Korel Laloix: I don't have audio at the moment.. so please go ahead without me.
Santoshima Resident: you sure?
Santoshima Resident: there is visual for some
Santoshima Resident: ok, here's the first link: let me know if it doesn't work

Santoshima Resident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PKdK_68r0A
Korel Laloix: At work.. so can't do audio.
Santoshima Resident: can you access?
Bees Ballinger: well.... Korel... anyway i'd like to talk further later about the healthcare
Korel Laloix: Sure
Bees Ballinger: later on...
Santoshima Resident: now is ok, if you prefer
Santoshima Resident: np

Santoshima Resident: hi Qt
Qt Core: Hi all
Santoshima Resident: here's the link we are going to listen to
Santoshima Resident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PKdK_68r0A
Santoshima Resident: join us?
Santoshima Resident: we are sharing
Santoshima Resident: ready?
Santoshima Resident: 5
Santoshima Resident: 4
Santoshima Resident: 3
Santoshima Resident: 2
Santoshima Resident: 1
Santoshima Resident: play

Bees Ballinger: sorry ... opening it made me crash ...
Santoshima Resident: you seemed to not leave, so not such a bad crash
Santoshima Resident: wb
Bees Ballinger: can you sent the link again?
Santoshima Resident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PKdK_68r0A
Santoshima Resident: Ali Farka Toure & Toumani Diabate - Kala Djula

Qt Core: quiet without being sleepy, nice
Bees Ballinger: sorry... opening the link makes me crash...

Santoshima Resident: Qt and Korel (in case you missed) we are sharing one after the other, each person's inspiring the next

Santoshima Resident: np, Bees, hopefully others will work for you
Santoshima Resident: Bees, want to go next?
Santoshima Resident: or anyone?

Bees Ballinger: sorry .... i do not get the point well i suppose

Santoshima Resident: anything you'd like others to see or hear? or read?
Santoshima Resident: it's sharing, Bees, from the heart

Bees Ballinger: well ... from the heart.. i am glad that Obama won today!
Bees Ballinger: we did not want a Bush back ...
Bees Ballinger: that was important today ...

Bees Ballinger: and
Bees Ballinger: it was my birthday as well..
Bees Ballinger: so ... that's from the heart
Santoshima Resident: oh! very happy birthday to you
Bees Ballinger: voilà
Bees Ballinger: ths
Qt Core: happy birtday

Bees Ballinger: and what was the meaning of Ali farka Toure?
Santoshima Resident: meant for your birthday enjoying
Bees Ballinger: was that the link?
Santoshima Resident: an offering
Bees Ballinger: sorry ... i am a bit confused ...
Santoshima Resident: np
Santoshima Resident: it's called: play
Santoshima Resident: sharing something that inspires you, that you'd like to share with the people here today

Santoshima Resident: np if it doesn't interest you
Santoshima Resident: anyone can suggest something
Santoshima Resident: but we can always talk politics
Santoshima Resident: or healthcare
Santoshima Resident: or other concerns
Bees Ballinger: well ... i shared with Korel ... about the healhcare system ...
Santoshima Resident: right,
Bees Ballinger: and being a first nation in the States ...
Santoshima Resident: and would you like to continue that conversation?
Santoshima Resident: it's fine to do so

Qt Core: a video from the only band i ever went to see a concert (previous video made me thing about guitars): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KBgg-hrtyo

Santoshima Resident: are you back, Korel
Santoshima Resident: ?

Santoshima Resident: thanks qt
Santoshima Resident: everyone lining it up, (if possible)
Santoshima Resident: ready?
Santoshima Resident: 5
Santoshima Resident: 4
Santoshima Resident: 3
Santoshima Resident: 2
Santoshima Resident: 1
Santoshima Resident: play

Bees Ballinger: i always crash when i open a link
Santoshima Resident: that's no good!
Bees Ballinger: which group is it?
Santoshima Resident: we'll change our plan
Qt Core: maybe you shoud do it :"manually" cu via cut and paste
Qt Core: Rodrigo y Gabriela
Santoshima Resident: you could try that

Santoshima Resident: {it's wonderful, QT}
Bees Ballinger: oh...!!! they are superb!!!
Bees Ballinger: i have seen them as well ...
Santoshima Resident: [ listening ] wow!
Bees Ballinger: they were in Belgium last summer

— BELL —

Bees Ballinger: dynamic guitar playing...
Qt Core: great to wake you in the morning while driving to work ;-)
Bees Ballinger: oh yes!
Bees Ballinger: and a beautiful couple
Santoshima Resident: great!
Santoshima Resident: ty

Bees Ballinger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWszEcjFSqo
Bees Ballinger: i loved this video
Santoshima Resident: everyone line it up?
Santoshima Resident: 5
Santoshima Resident: 4
Santoshima Resident: 3
Santoshima Resident: 2
Santoshima Resident: 1
Santoshima Resident: play
Bees Ballinger: found it moving

Wol Euler: evening all
Bees Ballinger: hallo
Santoshima Resident: hi Wol
Santoshima Resident: we're just all watching a video
Qt Core: hi Wol
Santoshima Resident: doing a kind of inspired sharing
Santoshima Resident: this one is from Bees
Santoshima Resident: can you give it again Bees?
Bees Ballinger: k
Bees Ballinger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWszEcjFSqo
Bees Ballinger: it's a bad recording ... spontaneous one
Santoshima Resident: it comes through very well ... very great

Qt Core: mosic knows no boundaries and need to translation
Santoshima Resident: yes
Qt Core: *music
Wol Euler smiles.
Santoshima Resident: bravo!!

Wol Euler: hello aph
Aphrodite Macbain: hello

Qt Core: Something about pervasiveness and universality of music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne6tB2KiZuk

Santoshima Resident: hi Aph
Qt Core: hi Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Aphrodite Macbain: music
Santoshima Resident: we are sharing from the heart, anything that inspires
Santoshima Resident: that link is from QT
Santoshima Resident: setting up, everyone
Santoshima Resident: 5
Santoshima Resident: 4
Santoshima Resident: 3
Santoshima Resident: 2
Santoshima Resident: 1
Aphrodite Macbain: lovely
Santoshima Resident: play
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Aphrodite Macbain: um....
Aphrodite Macbain: I am feeling a little bereft in the brilliance department right now

Wol Euler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeDylD8dV7U <- also lovely but very different
Santoshima Resident: np :)
Bees Ballinger: :-)
Santoshima Resident: oh, first we should finish QT
Santoshima Resident: this is on real time
Santoshima Resident: :)
Wol Euler: oh, sorry, I didn't see that. ok, qt first
Santoshima Resident: np
Santoshima Resident: can you give it again, QT?
Qt Core: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne6tB2KiZuk

Santoshima Resident: so great!
Qt Core: and i guess it is play at being too
Santoshima Resident: yeah
Santoshima Resident: when you're ready, want to give yours again, Wol?
Wol Euler: that was amazing, and the audience picked it up perfectly!
Santoshima Resident: yes!!
Aphrodite Macbain: how wonderful it would have been to be in the audience
Wol Euler: well, mine is very diferent just a lovely tune with some gentle words. I spent some of htis afternoon on youtube hearing difrerent versions of it

Wol Euler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeDylD8dV7U
Santoshima Resident: ty, set up everyone?
Santoshima Resident: 5
Santoshima Resident: 4
Santoshima Resident: 3
Santoshima Resident: 2
Santoshima Resident: 1
Santoshima Resident: play

— BELL —

Korel Laloix: When you get the chance.. have a watch of this....
Korel Laloix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_7yEPNUXsU
Korel Laloix: 30 mins though
Santoshima Resident: :)

Aphrodite Macbain: nice Wol..
Santoshima Resident: beautiful
Aphrodite Macbain: many versions?
Wol Euler: live, recorded, covers by other bands ...
Aphrodite Macbain: does musc heal?
Aphrodite Macbain: music
Aphrodite Macbain: I have watched a group of about 100 people in an outdoor space in the Granvolle market being united by the musician playing there
Aphrodite Macbain: even the pidgeons seemed connected in their joint swooping
Qt Core: it surely can bypass the shield one would put around oneself (in past couple decades the only times i got near crying were always about some form of music)

Korel Laloix: A bit or music that I like.
Korel Laloix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5wewUmN6gw
Korel Laloix: IN medieval Spanish.
Santoshima Resident: a sec korel, just a minute to go
Korel Laloix: NO worries.
Santoshima Resident: :)
Korel Laloix: I have no sound.

Aphrodite Macbain: yes- music can make you cry- pull out those covered up feelings
Santoshima Resident: clappity clap!!!
Wol Euler smiles.
Santoshima Resident: outstanding
Santoshima Resident: shall we set up Korel"s
Santoshima Resident: can you give again, Korel?
Qt Core: (i've ended up stopping thinking i'm stupid doing that :-) )
Wol Euler: okay

Korel Laloix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5wewUmN6gw
Santoshima Resident: ty
Aphrodite Macbain: good.:-)
Santoshima Resident: set up?
Santoshima Resident: 5
Santoshima Resident: 4
Santoshima Resident: 3
Santoshima Resident: 2
Santoshima Resident: 1
Santoshima Resident: play

Wol Euler: wb bees
Santoshima Resident: wb
Bees Ballinger: ths... she crashes all the time...; ffff.... the mac isn't what it was before...

Aphrodite Macbain: spanish is such a beautiful language
Bees Ballinger: it is..
Korel Laloix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5wewUmN6gw
Aphrodite Macbain: her voice is like a choir boy's
Korel Laloix: IN case you did not get the link.
Wol Euler: lovely

Wol Euler: may I post another?
Santoshima Resident: thanks Korel!
Santoshima Resident: of course,
Aphrodite Macbain: amazing thanks Korel
Korel Laloix: Wish I could have listened to it ...
Korel Laloix: Please do.

Wol Euler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKhGKB6faW0
Santoshima Resident: ready steady?
Santoshima Resident: 5
Santoshima Resident: 4
Santoshima Resident: 3
Santoshima Resident: 2
Santoshima Resident: 1
Santoshima Resident: play
Wol Euler: korel, if you want ot take a note: Antony singing Leonard Cohen's "If it be your will"
Santoshima Resident: perfect!
Korel Laloix: I am keeping al the links.
Korel Laloix: Thanks.
Wol Euler: Leonard Cohen is seriously overrepresented in the category of "songs that make me cry"

— BELL —

Aphrodite Macbain: this is making ME cry
Santoshima Resident: truly
Wol Euler: yeah, me too
Santoshima Resident: same here
Korel Laloix: I have another one that pretty much sums up how my week went last week.. if anyone wants to hear that one.
Korel Laloix: When this is done of course
Aphrodite Macbain: tries to recover
Santoshima Resident: still 2.5 minutes to go :)
Aphrodite Macbain: good

Bees Ballinger: is he also canadian.. the singer?
Wol Euler smiles.
Aphrodite Macbain: I dont understand the "voice over removed" whose voice over?
Wol Euler: no, british
Santoshima Resident: [ listening ] ahh
Santoshima Resident: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/leona...eyourwill.html
Aphrodite Macbain: mops heer face with a kleenex
Bees Ballinger: :-)

Wol Euler: there is a version of that which has a minute of Leonard talking about the song, cut into the middle of it
Aphrodite Macbain: oh OK
Wol Euler: it'
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm listening to the LC Version
Santoshima Resident: LC?
Wol Euler: it's from a concert of his music, for his 70th birthday maybe
Santoshima Resident: got a link Wol?
Aphrodite Macbain: sorry I missed it
Bees Ballinger: it's amazing how wonderful he still sings
Wol Euler: not offhand, aph, no. the songs are all on youtube, individually
Wol Euler: I love Antony's voice, so emotional
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm listening to LC right now
Aphrodite Macbain: It is - high and tentative unlike Cohen's
Santoshima Resident: oh, want to share the link?

Aphrodite Macbain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHAH...endscreen&NR=1
Santoshima Resident: 54321 go
Aphrodite Macbain: 2009
Santoshima Resident: this one is from 1985
Aphrodite Macbain: doesn't move me as much as Antony's

Korel Laloix: Not the one I was thinking about early.. but another cryer.
Korel Laloix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAbmf...eature=related

Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Wol Euler: Leonard writes lovely songs, but he can't sing them.
Aphrodite Macbain: :-) I've grown very fond of his rough slightly off key voice
Santoshima Resident: oh, i beg to differ, he has only gotten better since 1985
Santoshima Resident: great singer
Bees Ballinger: me too ... i love his voice
Aphrodite Macbain: we all have our different takes

Korel Laloix: The one I just sent is best loud.
Bees Ballinger: :-)

Aphrodite Macbain: I should go outside- the only way to get rid of the blues is to walk
Aphrodite Macbain: thanks for this san.
Qt Core: bye Aph

Santoshima Resident: mulholland drive coming up,
Aphrodite Macbain: ?

Santoshima Resident: thanks, Aph, for coming by and for the excellent sharing
Wol Euler: bye aph, walk well
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Bees Ballinger: enjoy the rain?
Aphrodite Macbain: it's actually sunny!
Bees Ballinger: great!
Santoshima Resident: yay! it's blue sky

Wol Euler: lining up korel's song now
Santoshima Resident: readY?
Santoshima Resident: 54
Santoshima Resident: 3
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Santoshima Resident: 11
Santoshima Resident: 1
Santoshima Resident: go

— BELL —

Korel Laloix: Reba del Rio is amazing.
Bees Ballinger: it's nice to hear new things

Santoshima Resident: i will bid everyone a fond goodbye ~ thanks so much for all the excellent offerings ~ it is
great to hear what inspires you
Qt Core: bye San
Santoshima Resident: see ya
Bees Ballinger: ciao!
Santoshima Resident: ciao bella
Korel Laloix: Ciao
Wol Euler: bye san, thanks for the music
Wol Euler: this was a great idea
Wol Euler: thanks for that, korel, that was lovely

Bees Ballinger: well ... i've got a link to laugh ... but it was very controversial especially for north americans
Korel Laloix: Sure.
Qt Core: i like when i find videos like this as (in a very very simpler way) it ia what happen in my mind when i hear music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYPDGUZyQ4Y

Bees Ballinger: i'd like to know if that's acceptable for you ...
Bees Ballinger: ok ... later:-)
Qt Core: ops, sorry

Wol Euler: loading qt's
Bees Ballinger: go ahead
Korel Laloix: THanks.. have to get back to RL.. take care.
Qt Core: that is i see or feel like i'm a ball bouncing around
Qt Core: bye Korel
Bees Ballinger: bye Korel
Wol Euler: woonderful graphics :)
Qt Core: sometimes ballets don't seem to match the music, this surely is ;-)
Wol Euler: :)
Bees Ballinger: THE Master Mister Mozart ...

Wol Euler: bees, what was yours?
Bees Ballinger: well ... it's sooooo completely different...
Bees Ballinger: it's controversial
Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.

Bees Ballinger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjHVgWALeqs
Bees Ballinger: can this be humour or not?

Qt Core: a tricky question around here lately ;-)
Bees Ballinger: well ... it's typical belgian
Bees Ballinger: actually
Wol Euler: I have to agree, typically belgian :)

— BELL —

Bees Ballinger: this is all fake of course... but there came thousands and thousands of reactions especially from North americans ...
Bees Ballinger: they are all actors ...
Wol Euler smiles.

Qt Core: a little less offensive but funny too ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-A0AQzuZOY
Bees Ballinger: :-)
Wol Euler laughs.

Bees Ballinger: well ... it's getting late ... it was a strange evening here ... from talking about the healthcare system in the States to Phobia's:-)
Bees Ballinger: over music ...
Wol Euler: :)

Wol Euler: late here too
Wol Euler: it was amusing, thanks :)

Bees Ballinger: sleep well ... and i am still with a smile that Obama won
Qt Core: light sessions after the us election day stress (stressfull even for non us citizen)
Bees Ballinger: it was a good day ...;

Wol Euler: really
Wol Euler: I am so relieved
Wol Euler: and I loved Obama's victory speech

Bees Ballinger: i think all europeans wanted Obama to win...
Bees Ballinger: no more Bush ...
Qt Core: only 90% from a poll i heard ;-)
Wol Euler: :)
Bees Ballinger: well... it was not his best speech though
Bees Ballinger: but he is fantastic in his speeches ...

Bees Ballinger: anyway... the perception is so different when you talk to americans ...
Bees Ballinger: that amazes me always

Qt Core: over all the improvement from Bush to Obama... i can understand his accent, no hope with Bush one
Bees Ballinger: well... going to bed.... sleep well..
Bees Ballinger: bye
Wol Euler: goodnight, and goodnight qt. sleep well
Qt Core: 'night Bees
Qt Core: ok, 'night Wol

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