2012.11.26 07:00 - On hindsight and intuition

The Guardian for this meeting was szavanna Resident. The comments are by szavanna Resident.

Arisia Vita: welcome Zen
Arisia Vita: just in time :)
szavanna Resident: hi welcome Zenji °͜°
Zen Arado: Hi Sunji, Arji :)
Zen Arado: Lizji
Zen Arado: :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eliza Madrigal: Hi
szavanna Resident: Lizji °͜°
Arisia Vita: the sun is playing with us today :)
szavanna Resident: we haven't played this for a while °͜°
szavanna Resident: so I decided to rez them °͜°
Eliza Madrigal: nice!
Arisia Vita: great!
Zen Arado: don't hear anything
szavanna Resident: I am on the case °͜°
Arisia Vita: me either Zen, except for the music of their smiles....
Eliza Madrigal: it looks like I am cooking...
szavanna Resident: hehe
Eliza Madrigal: hear now
szavanna Resident: ahh there you go
Zen Arado: me too
Arisia Vita: hope I am in sync :)
Eliza Madrigal: gentle sounds
szavanna Resident: yes you are Ari °͜°
szavanna Resident: ops I see grass
--BELL--
szavanna Resident: did someone change it?
Zen Arado: Liz grassed us
Eliza Madrigal: ^^
Arisia Vita: Liz also graced us with her presence :)
szavanna Resident: mmm so nice you could come Liz
Eliza Madrigal: wow, pretty Sun...
szavanna Resident: °͜°
Arisia Vita: Soon, an essential Spring will sing life's music at my door And it will be an enormous symphonic moment Of renewed joy and soft strength That I might dance deliriously once more.
Eliza Madrigal smiles
szavanna Resident: Oh I see we have a topic
szavanna Resident: not really sure of the word
szavanna Resident: I always forget what it means hmm °͜°
Arisia Vita: looking at the past
Arisia Vita: seeing what came before
szavanna Resident: ohhh pretty colors °͜°
Eliza Madrigal: yike, haha... didn't mean for all this to happen
szavanna Resident: hehe np at all
szavanna Resident puts midnight
szavanna Resident: can u give me a few examples .... of hindsight
Arisia Vita: for example, in hindsight I knew I should have made a different choice...
szavanna Resident: may be you could put it in a sentence
szavanna Resident: "looking back"
Eliza Madrigal: yes
szavanna Resident: ok then I knew it well
Arisia Vita: hindsight means now that I know what happened, I would have done this or that
Eliza Madrigal: the cliche' phrase is "hindsight is 20/20"
Eliza Madrigal: as though something is quite obvious but wasn't at the time
Arisia Vita: ty Liz
szavanna Resident: hmm ok
Arisia Vita: normally it used when one regrets a choice
szavanna Resident: yes
Arisia Vita: wishes they had seen more clearly the consequences
szavanna Resident: I just saw a video about intuition ....
Arisia Vita: interesting
szavanna Resident: that if we are open enough to it
szavanna Resident: and listen to the feelings rather than logic
szavanna Resident: we might find that automatically - we know what is the right choice
Arisia Vita: "The supreme task of the physicist is to arrive at those universal elementary laws from which the cosmos can be built up by pure deduction. There is no logical path to these laws; only intuition, resting on sympathetic understanding of experience, can reach them." Albert Einstein
szavanna Resident: may be its a question of being more aware
szavanna Resident: hmm ty Ari °͜°
Arisia Vita: yw
szavanna Resident: "There is no logical path to these laws; only intuition,"
Eliza Madrigal: well foresight and hindsight require time
Arisia Vita: intuition is knowing without knowing how you know... :)
Zen Arado: intuition is a concept too
Zen Arado: who knows what it is?
szavanna Resident: hmm don't look at me ;p
Eliza Madrigal: in hindsight I can think of situations where I trusted what I thought was intuition...
Arisia Vita: Feelings of certainty and conviction are *involuntary* mental sensations, not logical conclusions. Intuitions, gut feelings and hunches are neither right nor wrong but tentative ideas that must be submitted to empirical testing. If such testing isn't possible, then we must accept that any absolute stance is merely a personal vision, not a statement of fact.
Eliza Madrigal: and it was a little wobbly, if I judge by consequences...
Eliza Madrigal: but if I judge with wider perspective I can say it is all part of learning
szavanna Resident: hmm
Eliza Madrigal: so maybe my intuition was baby intuition? hehe
szavanna Resident: it is very different ...to be in the moment .... or looking back ..and analysing ...
Zen Arado: maybe if we could to place where we have no knowledge
szavanna Resident: hehe °͜°
Arisia Vita: what place is that Zen?
Zen Arado: knowing takes us away from reality
Zen Arado: like an hour old baby
Eliza Madrigal: what if we can drop that - looking forward and back - then that is insight - intuition
Eliza Madrigal: well babies need a lot of others looking out for them
Eliza Madrigal: :)
szavanna Resident: °͜°
Arisia Vita: they are completely dependent
Zen Arado: ah but able to switch to that and back
Eliza Madrigal: keeping the openness
Zen Arado: yes
szavanna Resident hears her "little ones" in the next room °͜°
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Arisia Vita: they are totally innocent, free of bias or prejudice, seeking only love
szavanna Resident wonders of they are ;o) feeling like the house will collapse just now hehe
Eliza Madrigal grins
szavanna Resident: smiles
Eliza Madrigal: they do teach much... wisdom of little children..
--BELL--
szavanna Resident: when we are young we tend to make quick decisions, later in life ....we tend to take long ...and consider all angles
Arisia Vita: Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you, yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts. For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams. You may strive to be like them, but seek not to make them like you. - Kahlil Gibran
Eliza Madrigal: that long deliberative process... I guess it is one of comparing and measuring...
szavanna Resident: smiles ty Ari - I love Kahlil Gibran
Zen Arado: maybe intuition is another story of how we come to know things
Arisia Vita: so do I
Zen Arado: but we just know inexplicably
Eliza Madrigal: need both I feel...
szavanna Resident: both?
Zen Arado: it's all stories I think today
szavanna Resident: what do you mean zenji
Eliza Madrigal: intuition and judgment/experience/ having learned from 'hindsight'
Zen Arado: all these explanations are just stories
szavanna Resident: ah yes ok Liz
szavanna Resident: hmm so are you implying that we talk lots and we say nothing?
szavanna Resident: ;p
Zen Arado: good stories maybe but stories
szavanna Resident: smiles
Eliza Madrigal: I like stories :)
szavanna Resident: I love spending time with you .,...the words are secondary importance °͜°
Zen Arado: we are all storytellers
Eliza Madrigal smiles
szavanna Resident: hmm yes
szavanna Resident: we keep telling our stories
Eliza Madrigal: that's it... where the stories situate
Eliza Madrigal: :) heart of lotus
szavanna Resident: °͜°
Eliza Madrigal: thank you Sunshine this was a lovely way to start the day
Eliza Madrigal: have to go... am lunching :)
szavanna Resident: yw Lizji ;))
Arisia Vita: I second that Liz
szavanna Resident: have fun and keep safe
Zen Arado: Byee Eliza ;)
szavanna Resident: big hug
Zen Arado: getting dark here already
Eliza Madrigal: :) ty ty hugs hugs hugs
szavanna Resident: here its the opposite
szavanna Resident: still very bright and warm
szavanna Resident: its interesting what you say about stories Zenji
Arisia Vita: I too must fly, but will carry the memory of this lovely time with me...be well and happy till we meet again my friends...
szavanna Resident: take care Ari
Arisia Vita: which will be soon I hope...
szavanna Resident: great to see you again
szavanna Resident: °͜°
Arisia Vita: I feel the same
Zen Arado: kk see you later Ari
Arisia Vita: yes, later Zen
szavanna Resident: hmm u always make me thinks twice Zenji ;p
szavanna Resident: Just when I think ...I know something hehe
Zen Arado: heh
szavanna Resident: how is your meditation going?
Zen Arado: Mira has left SL she says
szavanna Resident: ah yes Liz told me
Zen Arado: ok
szavanna Resident: hmm I hope she will be back
Zen Arado: she has transferred to Facebook :)
szavanna Resident: to have some chats and fun times
szavanna Resident: hehe
szavanna Resident: hmmm FB is not my scene
szavanna Resident: I do miss her
szavanna Resident: and PP in general
szavanna Resident: not sure what the fate of the sim is
Zen Arado: yeh
szavanna Resident: but its normal for things to change
Zen Arado: she says she doesn't feel like going in SL since she moved to mebourne
szavanna Resident: why ?
szavanna Resident: it doesn't really change things...
szavanna Resident: I thought
szavanna Resident: is it a very different life for her?
Zen Arado: don't know
szavanna Resident: and how are you doing - all well?
szavanna Resident: have you redone your gallery?
Zen Arado: no...did a little building last night
szavanna Resident: °͜°
Zen Arado: don't know what to put there
szavanna Resident: IM me if I can help
szavanna Resident: are you still meditating?
Zen Arado: it's more difficult to know what to build than to build
szavanna Resident: true
--BELL--
szavanna Resident: I usually look at other examples
Zen Arado: not even sure I want a gellery again
szavanna Resident: then my own idea starts to take shape
szavanna Resident: hmm °͜°
szavanna Resident: first you need to decide about that
szavanna Resident: ;o)
szavanna Resident: hmm so IM me if you wanna build things °͜°
szavanna Resident: and need some help
Zen Arado: yeh thanks
Zen Arado: haven't much time with this writing
szavanna Resident: ah yes
Zen Arado: should be doing it now
szavanna Resident: well focus on that then
szavanna Resident: ;))
Zen Arado: SL distraction
Zen Arado: :)
szavanna Resident: I go RL for a bit also
szavanna Resident: yes lol
Zen Arado: yeh better make my dinner
szavanna Resident: enjoy dinner °͜°
szavanna Resident: and happy writing °͜°
Zen Arado: see you soon Sunji
Zen Arado: byee ;)
szavanna Resident: take care hugs
szavanna Resident: ;))
Zen Arado: hugs