The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.

Eos Amaterasu: HI Storm
Eos Amaterasu: Guardian of the Terraces
Storm Nordwind: Good evening :)

Some references here to Heidegger's Being and Time book

Eos Amaterasu: Care is the Being of Dasein
Eos Amaterasu: (Dasein : "being there")
Eos Amaterasu: (Human Being)
Storm Nordwind: You're ahead of me. I haven't started reading that book yet!
Eos Amaterasu: yes, I read it a long time ago

Storm Nordwind: Hi Steve
stevenaia Michinaga: greetings
stevenaia Michinaga: I can't seem to find a sitable pillow tonight
Eos Amaterasu: then, when I came across the Three Pillars of Zen book, and its chapter on Dogen's "being-time"... wow!
Eos Amaterasu: Hi stevenaia
Eos Amaterasu has never thought of pillows as unstable :-)
stevenaia Michinaga: no, unable to sit on a few

--BELL--

Storm Nordwind: Is it the pillows, the avatar or the mind that's unstable? ;)

stevenaia Michinaga: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: it's all of the above... in the form of perception
Eos Amaterasu: the avatar makes the pillows
Eos Amaterasu: the typist makes the avatar
Eos Amaterasu: the mind drives the typist
Eos Amaterasu: who thinks mind's thoughts?
stevenaia Michinaga: the mind's typist
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
stevenaia Michinaga: and where does the stardust come from
Storm Nordwind: Interesting chain, and not totally unrelated to my simple thought on what (I think) is this week's topic.
Eos Amaterasu listens
stevenaia Michinaga: topic?
stevenaia Michinaga: nothing on the big board
Storm Nordwind: I think it was "Filling" which was supposed to be some opposite or complement to dropping. Perhaps I remember incorrectly
Xs Andree: ao off
Eos Amaterasu:  Dropping on Saturday and Filling Up on Sunday
stevenaia Michinaga: hello Xs
Eos Amaterasu: but today is Tuesday
Xs Andree smiles wide
Eos Amaterasu: hi Xs
Xs Andree: Hello, Stevenaia, Eos, Storm
stevenaia Michinaga: yin and y'ang
Storm Nordwind: Hi Xs
Xs Andree: I met a Leanahn Sidhe
stevenaia Michinaga: ?
stevenaia Michinaga: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leanan_s%C3%ADdhe
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Storm Nordwind: Well anyway, it occurred to me that the awareness behind all the layers has no inside to be filled. More of a point if a spacial metaphor was needed.
Xs Andree: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leanan_s%C3%ADdhe
Eos Amaterasu: hmm
Eos Amaterasu: less filling, more taste
stevenaia Michinaga: seems dropping and filling are just part of the continuum, needing each other to exist
Eos Amaterasu: no fill, no drop
Storm Nordwind: I disagree
Xs Andree: I have no context to understand.
Storm Nordwind: Instead of filling, one is clad in layers to drop
Eos Amaterasu: and one is inside the layers?
stevenaia Michinaga: dropping more and more?
Storm Nordwind: Spacially one can use that metaphor, peeling away the onion
stevenaia Michinaga: ...until?
Xs Andree: I have no layers that i do not invent myself.
Eos Amaterasu: perhaps it's sufficient to peel away
Eos Amaterasu: without any expectation of center
Storm Nordwind: Until you find the awareness that is
stevenaia Michinaga: so you drop until you are full of awareness?
Storm Nordwind: The layers are fine. No need to peel away at all. Just accept them for what they are. Just don't identify with any of them!
Storm Nordwind: It's more a case of mistaken identifying (rather than mistaken identity!)
Xs Andree: What do you want to be filled with?
Eos Amaterasu: there is no hole in this doughnut
Storm Nordwind: Who me? Nothing. Not necessary. Not even possible! :)
stevenaia Michinaga: but awareness is no small thing, it may be the only thing
Eos Amaterasu: if not, we wouldn't know
Xs Andree: Then I can show you how to be filled with nothing.
Eos Amaterasu: but things do rise up with strong fixation
Eos Amaterasu: then you start wishing for holes in the doughnut
Xs Andree: ㋡ Stevenaia

--BELL--

Xs Andree: I love you all. Thank you.

Eos Amaterasu: :-)
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles, ty
Eos Amaterasu: dropping and filling, like go and touch, touch and go
Xs Andree: I am a Nihilist. Nothing is my specialty
Eos Amaterasu: Nothing is my specialty :: I am a generalist |||| dropping :: filling
Xs Andree: ㋡
Xs Andree: We should all be what we are, it gives us all something to contribute.
stevenaia Michinaga: I am always amazed when people try to be anything other than that
Eos Amaterasu: yeah, that's interesting - if you're truly not attached, you can let yourself be, and you can truly give
Storm Nordwind: Perhaps they don't know what they are and are searching (or maybe don't care)
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Rhi
stevenaia Michinaga: Greetings Rhi
Storm Nordwind waves
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Steve, EOS, storm
Xs Andree: i am attached. I accept anihilation, however.
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi xs
Eos Amaterasu: yeah, that's mostly our fate, Xs
Xs Andree: Very pleasant to see you again, Rhiannon, some friends of yours were wondering when you would return.
stevenaia Michinaga: we are talking about Filling (as opposed to dropping) tonight
Rhiannon Dragoone: thanks, xs
stevenaia Michinaga: were you away?
Xs Andree: ㋡
Rhiannon Dragoone: not sure I understand the distinction 
Rhiannon Dragoone: no
Xs Andree grins
Rhiannon Dragoone: just hard to fit it into my schedule 
Eos Amaterasu: Hmm: "fill your mind" as a 90 second framing
stevenaia Michinaga: interesting you are cheek to cheek w/ Eos
Eos Amaterasu: I guess mind gets filled willy nilly
Xs Andree giggles
Eos Amaterasu: sounds like a jazz song
Storm Nordwind: The mind needs no help in filling ... or regurgitating!
Eos Amaterasu: no matter, never mind
Xs Andree: Out of nothing, something must come
Eos Amaterasu: the question is how to live with that
Xs Andree: Accept existence
Eos Amaterasu: and keep the continuity of both
Eos Amaterasu: yield
Xs Andree: Then Accept anihilation
stevenaia Michinaga: out of emptyness comes something to fill the void, not sure there is such a thing as nothingness, even awareness is something
Xs Andree: (-No-Thing) exists
stevenaia Michinaga: wb Rhi
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi
Eos Amaterasu: can I keep my mind occupied for 90 seconds?

--BELL--

stevenaia Michinaga: what do you see when only awareness remains Storm
Eos Amaterasu: There a beautiful line from my teachers' teacher: "awareness arises as anything whatsoever"
Eos Amaterasu: can I be there that way with all the stuff the fills the day?
Xs Andree: as in the ninety seconds?
Eos Amaterasu: the ninety seconds is a nice special case
Eos Amaterasu: mabye we flip it around
Rhiannon Dragoone: I've been simpltyimg my life, and I feel much better
Xs Andree: I filled a day and an evening with one.
Xs Andree nods nods in agreement with Rhiannon
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Xs Andree: Nothing Matters
Eos Amaterasu: but that's hard to remember when a strong emotion comes up - really pissed, or jealous, or depressed, or happy
Rhiannon Dragoone: my income dropped bY 2/3 when I stopped stripping, but now that I've successfully lowered my expenses, im muchhappier making less
Eos Amaterasu: nothing left to strip :-)
Xs Andree grins wide
Eos Amaterasu: stripping is flamboyant dropping?
Xs Andree: I'm glad to hear that Rhiannon, erotic dancing is not as easy as many think.
Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, you guys! u knew what I meant. lol
Rhiannon Dragoone: cs, it's very hard
Xs Andree nods
Rhiannon Dragoone: on your spirit as well as ur body
Xs Andree: I can only do it for the experience of it, and only very rarely. At least as a career
Xs Andree: For pleasure alone, however, it is much different
Rhiannon Dragoone: nods 

Eos Amaterasu: So Xs, want to say more about your Leanan sidhe?
Xs Andree: Only that I was honored to meet her.
Xs Andree: ...apart from sharing something special to me with you all, of course.
Xs Andree: I've wanted to meet one for years since i heard of them.
stevenaia Michinaga: how did you find one?
Storm Nordwind had good friends in England who were interested in Celtic folklore, although was himself more active in Heathen folklore.

--BELL--

Xs Andree: Stopped looking? Wanted to meet one, then stopped searching.
Rhiannon Dragoone: R we talking a witch?
stevenaia Michinaga: sounds like how you find love
Storm Nordwind: None of the witches I ever knew fit the description of Leanan sídhe that Xs pointed us to.
Xs Andree: They are fey, considered vampiric. Young celtic musicians would give their lives to a leanan sidhe in exchange for inspiration
Rhiannon Dragoone: I don't know what that is
Eos Amaterasu: seems a bit of a hungry ghost
Xs Andree: They are also considered close to Succubi and banshees
Rhiannon Dragoone: oh ok
Storm Nordwind: One might make deliberate contact with them through shamanic practices
Xs Andree: oops?
Rhiannon Dragoone: gtg TC, all
Storm Nordwind: Bye then Rhi... and belated ly to Eos
Rhiannon Dragoone: waves and poofs
stevenaia Michinaga: bye Rhi
stevenaia Michinaga: night Storm, Xs
Storm Nordwind: Bye!
stevenaia Michinaga: can you put the week's theme on the board or can only Bleu do that?
Storm Nordwind: Bleu owns the board. I might do something though, though I guess she will soon anyway
stevenaia Michinaga: okies, night
Storm Nordwind waves
Storm Nordwind: Might be a good idea to make it programmable, without having to create new textures
Storm Nordwind: Probably time for me to go too :)
Storm Nordwind: Be well!