2012.11.24 01:00 - Options

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[01:06] Yakuzza Lethecus: hey wol, good morning i hope
[01:06] Wol Euler: so far very good
[01:06] Wol Euler: hello yaku
[01:07] Yakuzza Lethecus: here too, 3rd coffee and conquered the capital of the polynesian empire before :P
[01:08] Wol Euler cheers!
[01:08] Yakuzza Lethecus: smile
[01:08] Wol Euler: which game was that?
[01:08] Yakuzza Lethecus: civ5
[01:08] Wol Euler: ah!
[01:08] Wol Euler: I only have 4
[01:08] Wol Euler: and haven't played that much since discovering SL
[01:08] Yakuzza Lethecus: 4 was also far better accepted by the community

[01:10] Yakuzza Lethecus: i think now with the recent add ons and dlc (i still don´t like that they are making chunks of apps optional purchasable)
[01:10] Wol Euler nods.
[01:10] Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s getting close to the depth of the old one
[01:10] Wol Euler: many people don't like that
[01:10] Wol Euler: (dlc)
[01:10] Wol Euler: it feels like being cheated, somehow
[01:11] Wol Euler: it's funny, dlc is perceived as something that was removed from the game, that should have been in it from the beginning
[01:11] Wol Euler: not as an enrichment

[01:11] Yakuzza Lethecus: and when playing in multiplayer everyone has to have these options
[01:11] Wol Euler nods.
[01:12] Wol Euler: so they aren't really optional any more

[01:14] Yakuzza Lethecus: you don´t have a tv right ?
[01:14] Wol Euler: true
[01:14] Yakuzza Lethecus: so ur also a case that they make you pay 10 euro more per month from january
[01:14] Wol Euler: oh?
[01:16] Yakuzza Lethecus: GEZ became Beitragsservice
[01:17] Yakuzza Lethecus: and they are changing from individual fee´s to fee per household and it´s the same fee for everyone then
[01:17] Yakuzza Lethecus: so ppl with pc/radio will have to pay the same as tv reviever owners
[01:18] Wol Euler: oh but that was always the case
[01:18] Wol Euler: at least since a few years now
[01:19] Wol Euler: I had a GEZ inspector here, he found the computer and declared that since it *could* receive TV programs over internet, and I could not prove that I never did, then I *must* pay as though I had a TV
[01:19] Wol Euler shrugs
[01:19] Yakuzza Lethecus: ok, nevermind then
[01:21] Wol Euler: reading about it on bild.de
[01:22] Yakuzza Lethecus: is the bbc in the uk similar financed ?
[01:22] Wol Euler: yes, there is a TV license there too
[01:22] Wol Euler: or there was, not sure if that still applies
[01:23] Yakuzza Lethecus: at least it makes think of how connected media should be to the government and how should information be distributed
[01:23] Wol Euler nods.

[01:24] Wol Euler: "Der neue Beitragsservice startet mit einem tiefen Eingriff in das Persönlichkeitsrecht von über 80 Millionen Deutschen. Wie „Finanztest" in der aktuellen Ausgabe berichtet, scannt die Behörde rechtzeitig zum Start alte GEZ-Daten mit allen aktuellen Registern der Meldebehörden ab. Damit hat die GEZ, bzw. der Beitragsservice, mehr Kompetenzen als deutsche Strafverfolgungsbehörden. Bei der Rasterfahndung zur Terrorbekämpfung ist ein kompletter Abgleich von Meldedaten zum Beispiel nicht möglich."
[01:24] Wol Euler: finde ich leicht schockierend
[01:25] Yakuzza Lethecus: yes!

[01:25] Wol Euler: who granted them that authority?
[01:26] Wol Euler: that is clearly an invasion of privacy
[01:27] Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s interesting how governments handle these things, in sweden everyone can go to the library and check how many taxes citizens are paying
[01:27] Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s public for everyone!
[01:27] Wol Euler: huh

[01:27] Wol Euler: it would be fascinating to have that right in the US
[01:28] Wol Euler: how much tax does a CEO who earns 20.000 times the hourly salary of his staff pay?
[01:28] Wol Euler: higher or lower percent?
[01:28] Wol Euler: there's be blood in the streeets :)
[01:28] Yakuzza Lethecus: exactly, what should be more taxable financial production of money or a salery
[01:29] Wol Euler: any and all imcome should be taxable, whether from salary or from benefits or from sale of stocks and bonds
[01:29] Yakuzza Lethecus: matt was a good example on that lately
[01:29] Wol Euler: it's outrageous that stock market income can become tax-free if you just hold the stocks long enough

[02:03] Yakuzza Lethecus: hope you got a good day!
[02:03] Yakuzza Lethecus: see you soon
[02:03] Wol Euler: I have plans for one, have to wait and see what happens
[02:03] Wol Euler: thanks, you too
[02:03] Wol Euler: take care, yaku