The Guardian for this meeting was Bruce Mowbray, subbing for Aphrodite. 

Korel Laloix: Heya
Korel Laloix: Sorry, was AFK>
Bruce Mowbray: I was afk also.
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Bruce Mowbray: Hiya, Wester!
Korel Laloix: Heya.
Wester Kiranov: hi bruce, korel
Korel Laloix smiles

--BELL--

Korel Laloix: I showed Reeba that Galileo Project video site.

http://www.tafelmusik.org/media-room/galileo-project/galileo-overview
Bruce Mowbray: Yeah!? What did she think of it?

Korel Laloix: She loved it....
 Korel Laloix: Did not know, but she had played the cello when she was younger.
Bruce Mowbray: Great!
Bruce Mowbray: Beautiful music....
Korel Laloix: So.... she said she is going to educate me.... lol
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Bruce Mowbray: The whole Baroque Period is beautiful, I think (or FEEL, rather).
Korel Laloix: Just really does not move me.
Korel Laloix: But maybe I just have not listened to the right stuff in the right mood at the right volume.
Bruce Mowbray: Music, architecture. . . It is a bit ornate . . . and overly so, sometimes.
Korel Laloix: I did see some what they called Baroque architecture when I was in Germany.
Korel Laloix: Not sure what that actually means though.
Bruce Mowbray: Did you see Mad King Ludwig's castle?
Bruce Mowbray: That's baroque with a vengeance.  ha ha!
Bruce Mowbray: https://www.google.com/search?q=Baroque+architecture&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=yL5&tbo=u&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=vYeyUM_mJbGxigKdkoCQCw&ved=0CDsQsAQ&biw=750&bih=712
Korel Laloix: No, but we were in that area.
Bruce Mowbray: Hiya, Lukey.
Lukey Woodget: hello all
Wester Kiranov: hi lukey
Korel Laloix: But went here...  http://www.wieskirche.de/eframset.htm
Korel Laloix: Was a very moving place.
Korel Laloix: And like nothing I had seen before.
Bruce Mowbray: Looks to be "high" Baroque -- also known as roccoco
Korel Laloix: They mentioned that word.
Bruce Mowbray: Oh, now I see "roccoco" in the text, sry.
Lukey Woodget: makes me sick how the other half live hehe
Korel Laloix: I was a bit overwhelmed at that moment to really pay attention.
Bruce Mowbray: The roccoco art form is a bit overwhelming all by itself! ;-)
Korel Laloix: A magnificent work of art in every way... even if it not to my tastes.
Lukey Woodget: i love gothic
Lukey Woodget: dark and cold and windy
Bruce Mowbray: It is as if the artists were exerting every possible effort to cover every inch with beauty.
Korel Laloix: I am a "more-is-less" sorta girl.
Bruce Mowbray: Gothic much more common in America than Baroque, actually.
Korel Laloix: I found it easy to be overwhelmed in there...
Bruce Mowbray: "High" Gothic can get quite ornate, though.
Korel Laloix: Sort of got in the way of the relationship for me.
Bruce Mowbray: That is quite similar to the tradition I identify with [more] in Christianity: I prefer it plain and simple.
Bruce Mowbray: Shakers, Quakers, the simpler Protestantism. . . (little ornamentation in worship places....) -- although I really love the art - AS art - when it's beautifully done (in Baroque and Gothic, both).
Lukey Woodget: I suppose most of the wealth has been taken by religion and they have had the biggest hand in architecture
Korel Laloix: The churches in my denomination tend to be small, shabby rented spaces or old churches in bad places.
Korel Laloix: But we do make them feel like good places to connect.
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, and also in mine, Kori. In fact, our Quaker group meets (as we did this afternoon) in a beauty shop. . . for which we pay $75 a month.
Korel Laloix: Nice.... smiles

--BELL--

Korel Laloix: I go with my grandma to her Southern Baptist most Sundays... that is a bit different... but it is a good group of people.
Bruce Mowbray: We trade turns for whoever gets to sit in the main cosmetology chair.
Korel Laloix: Heya S a n
Santoshima Resident: hello everyone
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, San (we're dropping at the moment). . .
Lukey Woodget: hi san
Wester Kiranov: hi san
Santoshima Resident: what are you dropping, Bruce?
Bruce Mowbray: Ahh. ponders: "What AM I dropping. . . ?"
Bruce Mowbray: Alas, San has flown.
Bruce Mowbray: So, what about "Hindsight"?
Santoshima Resident: { pressed the wrong button }
Bruce Mowbray: There she is again!
Bruce Mowbray: WB, San!
Lukey Woodget: I will be away for 30 minutes
Bruce Mowbray: My camera was on you, San, and it followed you to your treehouse (!!)
Santoshima Resident: yes, i saw that
Santoshima Resident: how was the trip?
Bruce Mowbray: I didn't realize that a camera could do that!
Santoshima Resident: i know, it's very fun
Bruce Mowbray: Wheeee!
Santoshima Resident: need to catch people as they are leaving though
Santoshima Resident: and they need to stay in the sim
Bruce Mowbray: kk, Lukey. See you when you return, Lukey.
Santoshima Resident: bye Lukey
Bruce Mowbray: kk, so it's a matter of being in the same sim. . .
Santoshima Resident: i believe so
Santoshima Resident: i followed Aph on the train once
Santoshima Resident: unintentionally
Bruce Mowbray: Oh, I've done that too!
Santoshima Resident: and ended with some great graphics of her floating in a deep blue sky
Bruce Mowbray: It's a trip - in more ways than one!
Santoshima Resident: great photo ops
Santoshima Resident: yeah a trip
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Santoshima Resident: images i couldn't have predicted
Santoshima Resident: mainly in don't understand the visuals in sl
Santoshima Resident: you are talking about ______?
Bruce Mowbray: You don't understand the visuals. . . ?
Santoshima Resident: the ... what shall we call it?
Santoshima Resident: the visual interface?
Santoshima Resident: the 3d grid of how things appear in this game environment
Bruce Mowbray: Do you mean in general in SL, or just in PaB?
Santoshima Resident: this place provides a map
Santoshima Resident: and shapes thought
Santoshima Resident: it's got a built in language
Santoshima Resident: visually conveyed, yes?
Santoshima Resident: like video games
Bruce Mowbray: Well, I guess it does, yes.
Santoshima Resident: as though one is moving through space
Bruce Mowbray: Definitely like that, yes.
Santoshima Resident: it affects us in the same way (if sighted)
Santoshima Resident: so important to choose wisely
Santoshima Resident: what is seen
Santoshima Resident: and how images are presented
Santoshima Resident: is my thought
Santoshima Resident: the topic is ___- ? what this week?
Santoshima Resident: i must have interrupted
Bruce Mowbray: "Hindsight"
Santoshima Resident: ok
Bruce Mowbray: We had not yet started to talk about it, though.
Santoshima Resident: let's begin?
Bruce Mowbray: This - more than any other week of the year -- is one when I tend to indulge in hindsight.
Bruce Mowbray: It is the anniversary week of several major events.
Bruce Mowbray: (both "good" and "bad").
Santoshima Resident: for yourself personally?
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, and for those close to me.
Santoshima Resident: i see
Bruce Mowbray: Today would have been my brother's 72nd birthday.
Bruce Mowbray: (He died in August).
Santoshima Resident: oh, yes
Bruce Mowbray: Yesterday was the anniversary of my father's death.
Bruce Mowbray: (He died when I was 19.)
Santoshima Resident: ah, your thoughts are with them both
Bruce Mowbray: Also, the anniversary of the first date with the woman I married....
Bruce Mowbray: and of our wedding anniversary....
Bruce Mowbray: and of JFK's assassination. . .
Bruce Mowbray: and more.
Bruce Mowbray: So "hindsight" can be emotionally a roller coaster - if I let it be.
Bruce Mowbray: Hiya, Zon
Korel Laloix: Heya
Wester Kiranov: hi zon
Santoshima Resident: hello Zon :)
Zon Kwan: heya
Wester Kiranov: maybe you should find a different place to sit :-)
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Bruce Mowbray: We've just begun to talk about 'hindsight,' Zon.
Zon Kwan: what is it
Bruce Mowbray: For me, it is looking back on past events.
Santoshima Resident: this must be an intense time of year for you ~
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, it can be intense. . . .
Bruce Mowbray: but it is also intense for others - because of the holidays.
Zon Kwan: remembering ?
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, Zon . . . and reflecting.

--BELL--

Santoshima Resident: reflects an "understanding" of a situation after an event (says my dictionary) ~ it's not just reflecting nor just remembering, it seems
Bruce Mowbray: Ahhh. . . . so an "understanding" that comes with the passage of time (and experience) between the original event and the present?
Zon Kwan: working on it
Zon Kwan: waves
Santoshima Resident: leaving?
Santoshima Resident: bye zon
Bruce Mowbray waves back at Zon.
Bruce Mowbray: bye Zon.
Bruce Mowbray: That time my camera didn't follow . .
Santoshima Resident: he went offline, maybe?
Santoshima Resident: or off-sim
Bruce Mowbray: I guess so.
Bruce Mowbray: So, is hindsight more to be trusted than now-sight?
Santoshima Resident: hmmm
Bruce Mowbray: Or is there even such a thing as now-sight?
Bruce Mowbray: Don't we always see the present in terms of past experience?
Santoshima Resident: insight?
Wester Kiranov: if there is any sight, it is now
Korel Laloix: Looking back you typically have more developed context.
Santoshima Resident: true, Wester
Korel Laloix: So not better judgement, just better information.
Santoshima Resident: and yes, to Korel
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, Kori. . . that's why I always read a really good book at least twice -- same with really good movies.... for the context and better understanding.
Wester Kiranov: in hindsight your story about what happened is more developed
Bruce Mowbray: More "developed" might also mean more inter-woven with interpretations, biases, judgments....
Wester Kiranov: it might, yes
Bruce Mowbray: I have been digging out things from my Journals -- for my niece....
Bruce Mowbray: and I have been really amazed to read things from long ago...
Bruce Mowbray: and to discover how radically my own thinking has changed about these things.
Bruce Mowbray: Not my opinions, so much,
Bruce Mowbray: but the memories themselves...
Bruce Mowbray: I "remember" them differently from how they actually happened.
Santoshima Resident: right, so interesting
Bruce Mowbray: I trust the Journal entries more than my memories.
Lukey Woodget: back
Korel Laloix: I journal as well... for that same reason, I guess.
Bruce Mowbray: But I live day-by-day with those memories!
Wester Kiranov: but they are from memories too - just more recent ones
Korel Laloix: Something one of my shrinks wanted me to start doing a while ago.
Lukey Woodget: its hard work getting chocolate and beer
Korel Laloix: Interesting to read back for sure.
Santoshima Resident: wb Lukey
Bruce Mowbray: There's no question that my journals (kept since 1963) are the most valuable thing I own.
Bruce Mowbray: wb Lukey!
Lukey Woodget: do you keep journals?
Bruce Mowbray: I can hardly believe or understand how I survived some of that stuff.
Wester Kiranov: memory is a pretty weird thing
Korel Laloix: I do.
Bruce Mowbray: It is weird indeed, Wester.
Lukey Woodget: is that every day
Bruce Mowbray: Not every day for me.... (writing in the Journals)
Korel Laloix: A couple of times a day for me.
Korel Laloix: Not always though.
Wester Kiranov: I lost two days of my memory this year, and it seems like I didn't exist those days
Bruce Mowbray: My "journals," for the past fifteen years or so, are 99% letters that I write to a prison inmate friend.
Bruce Mowbray: I tell him everything - absolutely everything that is of importance in my life.
Bruce Mowbray: So, these become a sort of journal...
Lukey Woodget: why do you tell him everything?
Bruce Mowbray: That is rough, Wester, losing two days of your memory....
Santoshima Resident: yes
Korel Laloix: Mine is a bit more straightforward..... just write down things one ruled paper in a notebook.. and take them out and scan them in from time to time.
Wester Kiranov: pretty glad I didn't lose much more than that
Santoshima Resident: indeed :)
Lukey Woodget: why did that happen?
Bruce Mowbray: I tell Mike everything because he tells me everything . . and we are close friends and have been for about thirty years.
Wester Kiranov: why i lost my memory? I had meningitis
Lukey Woodget: ouch
Lukey Woodget: did you get through ok?
Bruce Mowbray: I do hope you're continuing to get better, though, Wester. . .
Wester Kiranov: pretty ok
Korel Laloix: That is a rough disease to have, for sure...
Korel Laloix: Can be deadly, and if not, long lasting effects.
Lukey Woodget: your lucky to be alive
Wester Kiranov: very true
Wester Kiranov: i'm very lucky my husband got me to the doctor in time
Lukey Woodget: did he know what it was
Wester Kiranov: the doctor suspected enough to get me to the hospital straightaway

--BELL--

Lukey Woodget: you must count your blessings
Wester Kiranov: i lose count if I do :-)
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Lukey Woodget: :)
Santoshima Resident: :))
Korel Laloix: And once you are done counting, be a blessing to someone else.
Wester Kiranov: ahhhh
Santoshima Resident: lovely
Lukey Woodget: we all are lucky
Lukey Woodget: to even be here
Santoshima Resident: do we conclude this in hindsight?
Wester Kiranov: :-)
Santoshima Resident: yes!
Santoshima Resident: imho
Santoshima Resident: hallo Wol :)
Wester Kiranov: hi wol
Wol Euler: evening all
Lukey Woodget: I have had a lot of close shaves with death
Bruce Mowbray: I have been an insomniac since childhood. . . but I gradually learned that the most sure-fire way of falling to sleep was to allow images of persons to come into my awareness, and then to bless every one of them. . .
Bruce Mowbray: and the next thing I knew it was morning.
Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Wol!
Wester Kiranov: that's lovely Bruce
Santoshima Resident: great, Bruce
Bruce Mowbray: Well, it also WORKS!
Korel Laloix: I will certainly give that a try.
Bruce Mowbray: Important to bless everyone -- without exception....
Korel Laloix: More meaningful than counting sheep for sure.
Wester Kiranov: blessing sheep...
Bruce Mowbray: I use this blessing: "May you be happy. May you know the causes of your happiness. May you be at peace with yourself and with the world."
Bruce Mowbray: Same blessing, regardless of whose image comes to mind.
Bruce Mowbray: (with even so-called antagonists).
Bruce Mowbray: [Ten minutes to Bertram's meditation. . . If you'd like an LM, please let me know....]
Santoshima Resident: ok, please
Santoshima Resident: hello Zen :)
Korel Laloix: Same time as my denomination's church service in SL, if you want a LM please let me know... smiles
Lukey Woodget: words are weak I want to see the money baby
Lukey Woodget: hehe
Bruce Mowbray: OH! I would LOVE one, Kori!
Wester Kiranov: hi zen
Zen Arado: Hi all
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Zen.
Santoshima Resident: ok, please send Korel
Zen Arado: all denominations? 
Zen Arado: sorry for interrupting the conversation stream
Korel Laloix: No worries.
Santoshima Resident: not at all, Zen ~ you didn't interrupt
Korel Laloix: Just about to take off.
Bruce Mowbray: No problem, Zen.
Bruce Mowbray: Five minutes countdown -
Bruce Mowbray: for Kori's church service and for Bertram's meditation.
Wol Euler smiles.
Bruce Mowbray: Please let either/both of us know if you'd like an LM.
Korel Laloix: One of the things I do love about SL is all the variety of services here.. many different denominations.
Bruce Mowbray: Yes. me too, Kori. (It gives me hope!)
Zen Arado: you'd need thousands
Zen Arado: :)
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Korel Laloix: Coptic, Messianic Jewish, Baptist, 7th Day, Anglican, Russian, Greek, MCC, Lutheran, etc.
Zen Arado: even in Presbyterianism so many different types
Zen Arado: big argument in the UK over women bishops
Santoshima Resident: the women bishops are arguing?
Korel Laloix: Thinking of a silly movie where there is a long list of types of criminals and then the guy ends with...... "and Methodists!"
Zen Arado: the Cof E just voted against it
Korel Laloix: Anyone know that movie?
Zen Arado: no they won't allow them
Santoshima Resident: i know, just some levity
Zen Arado: :)
Bruce Mowbray: Thank you each and all for coming to Aphrodite's session today. I must be moving along now.
Bruce Mowbray: Do have a safe and happy week!
Zen Arado: gotta hit the road
Santoshima Resident: ditto, thanks Bruce, peace and love everyone
Santoshima Resident: peace
Santoshima Resident: bye!!
Wester Kiranov: i'm sneaking out too
Wol Euler: yes, time for Bertram
Wol Euler: goodnight all, take care

--BELL--

Wester Kiranov: bye all
Korel Laloix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km7WD8wkb1c
Zen Arado: byee all
Korel Laloix: Blazing Saddles.
Korel Laloix: Ciao