2013.02.02 07:00 - satisfaction is only of the moment

The Guardian for this meeting was Xirana Oximoxi. The comments are by Xirana Oximoxi.

Catrinamonblue Resident: 's current display-name is "Catrinamonblue".
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Xirana Oximoxi: 's current display-name is "Xirana".
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Cat! :-)
Catrinamonblue Resident: Good Morning :)
Xirana Oximoxi: afternoon here :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: I love that it can be morning here and afternoon for you and somewhere else one of our group may be sleeping :)
Xirana Oximoxi: yes....that's one of the amazing things we are more aware here in SL :)
Xirana Oximoxi: really meeting people at home, or going to work..to have lunch...in all parts of the world
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: topic of the wek...satisfaction related to enoughness or whatever :)
Xirana Oximoxi: week
Xirana Oximoxi: it reminds me the song of Rolling Stones..."I can't get no satisfaction :))
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: I think satisfaction is only of the moment, just a job well done, then on to the next job :)
Xirana Oximoxi: yes....I agree... if not, you get stuck
Xirana Oximoxi: it's also somehow not easy to feel satisfied when doing something....thinking of painting...
Xirana Oximoxi: sometimes I must stop and think...welll..maybe next time I'll do better
Catrinamonblue Resident: nods
Catrinamonblue Resident: life is like that everyday, everyday I say next time I will try to do better :) and it does work
Catrinamonblue Resident: Had a long conversation with my dear sister last night
Catrinamonblue Resident: talking about personal growth
Xirana Oximoxi: wonderful
Catrinamonblue Resident: she said I have grown a lot (we grew up in an abusive environment) changed a lot
Xirana Oximoxi: I never talk with my sister about important personal subjects...
Catrinamonblue Resident: because I kept saying tomorrow I will do better than this :)
Xirana Oximoxi: that's also good to say to oneself we can do better next time...and not thinking we can not
Catrinamonblue Resident: my sister and I are very close only 1 year age difference and having grown up in that environmnet we tried to protect each other
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Catrinamonblue Resident: and now that we are both grown with children we help each other by being there for each other through thick and thin :) we do argue but we love each other deeply enough to forgive and understand
Xirana Oximoxi: that's very good....it's important to have someone that can understand us better than anyone and giving support each other...
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: sometimes she knows me better than I know myself :)
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: maybe she feels the same about you:)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: it is enough to know there is a least one person on this earth who loves and accepts me just for me, with no expectations, there is a sense of satisfaction in that
Xirana Oximoxi: yes... maybe another kind of satisfaction...in a different sense of the first one we talked
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: there is also mental satisfaction and physical...other two ways to explore
Catrinamonblue Resident: there are many shades of gray in the meaning of any word :)
Xirana Oximoxi: even if physical is really connected with mental
Xirana Oximoxi: yes
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Xirana Oximoxi: I'm half sleepy today, I did not sleep long last night..and I've put the 'clock' to come to my session...but not really inspired to have deep thoughts about 'satisfaction' :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :) I'm not thinking deep either this morning, mentally making a list of what needs to be done today :)
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: which really means I should be going and getting a move on
Catrinamonblue Resident: the list won't accomplish itself :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hehe yes....probably not:))
Xirana Oximoxi: unless you have powers:) as a magicien:)
Catrinamonblue Resident: it was nice talking with you this morn/afternoon :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: nice to talk to you too:)
Catrinamonblue Resident: bye
Xirana Oximoxi: have a great day! :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye
Xirana Oximoxi: take care
Zen Arado: 's current display-name is "Zen".
Xirana Oximoxi: hi Zen! :-)
Xirana Oximoxi: are you satisfied?
Zen Arado: Hi Xiri :)
Zen Arado: nope
Xirana Oximoxi: good afternoon:)
Zen Arado: satisfaction is not possible I think
Xirana Oximoxi: it's the subject of the week:)...I've been talking a little with Cat about it... but we were not really inspired
Xirana Oximoxi: maybe just for short moments
Zen Arado: we waste time looking for something that cannot be found
Xirana Oximoxi: See what Cat has said : [07:07] Catrinamonblue: :) [07:08] Catrinamonblue: I think satisfaction is only of the moment, just a job well done, then on to the next job :)
Zen Arado: just do what evern seems best
Zen Arado: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: yes:)
Zen Arado: just get on with life and forget about satisfaction
Zen Arado: it comes or it doesn't
Xirana Oximoxi: yes.....it's not a goal in itself...at least for me
Zen Arado: not much satisfaction in French grammar :)
Xirana Oximoxi: no....me either
Zen Arado: I wrote two poems earlier
Zen Arado: hard work
Xirana Oximoxi: I think we must profite the opportunity on SL to 'practice' the language....and keep grammar for studying it at home
Xirana Oximoxi: wonderful!! :-)
Xirana Oximoxi: one day we organise a reading!!
Zen Arado: yes or study bits of it every now and then
Zen Arado: LingQ is good I think
Zen Arado: they post little texts with voice too
Zen Arado: and words are easy to look up
Zen Arado: and idioms are explained
Xirana Oximoxi: probably most French people have no idea about the 'rules' either:)
Xirana Oximoxi: do you write everyday ?
Zen Arado: yes
Zen Arado: I write for half an hour as soon as I get up
Zen Arado: and other writing for course as well
Xirana Oximoxi: so...you are getting an habit
Zen Arado: yes...best way
Xirana Oximoxi: yes...I think so:)
Zen Arado: freewriting first thing
Xirana Oximoxi: is it helpful, the course?
Zen Arado: it opens creativity
Zen Arado: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: yes.... let all ideas flow
Zen Arado: for poems you need images
Zen Arado: like painting
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Xirana Oximoxi: in Catalan we say 'rain of ideas'...I don't know in English :)
Zen Arado: flow of ideas
Xirana Oximoxi: ok:) thank you:)
Xirana Oximoxi: I've put two poems about winter in my next exhibit
Xirana Oximoxi: not mine!
Zen Arado: http://www.lingq.com/learn/fr/workde...805971/reader/
Zen Arado: that's a LingQ lesson
Xirana Oximoxi: but the poems somehow tell with words what I try to catch when paitning
Zen Arado: I prefer that appraoch
Zen Arado: yes
Zen Arado: I find good images are difficult to find
Xirana Oximoxi: I must login..I'll do it later:)
Xirana Oximoxi: you can paint the images too:))
Zen Arado: sometimes it's best to leave and come back to poem
Xirana Oximoxi: sure
Zen Arado: your subconscious works on it
Zen Arado: hopefully ;)
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: you follow your own way...starting from an image
Zen Arado: I don't learn much from grammar rules
Zen Arado: I just forget them again
Xirana Oximoxi: me either....exactly
Xirana Oximoxi: learning theories actually don't focus at all in grammar
Zen Arado: I never liked computer programming either
Zen Arado: same thing
Zen Arado: tedious details
Xirana Oximoxi: 'learn by doing' is the way for a lot of matters
Zen Arado: but it works for some people Xiri
Xirana Oximoxi: yes, I know:))
Xirana Oximoxi: we will have to find a balance :))
Zen Arado: Duolingo is like that too
Zen Arado: you have to get the right answer
Zen Arado: if you get too many wrong you have to repeat the lesson
Zen Arado: and they have bad translations too
Zen Arado: but they still mark you wrong
Xirana Oximoxi: I did not like Duolingo....when you reach a intermediate level..the best is not to translate and try to learn all in the same language
Zen Arado: I didn't get to see your Mexican exhibition yet
Zen Arado: have you a LM?
Xirana Oximoxi: yes:)
Xirana Oximoxi: moment I give it to you:)
Zen Arado: thanks
Xirana Oximoxi: this Sunday a new one...and then I calm for a while...:)
Zen Arado: sometimes when I go to the French lesson I get a lot of IMs
Xirana Oximoxi: from friends?
Zen Arado: I had Jeff and an artist woman talking to me at the same time
Xirana Oximoxi: lol....it's difficult to follow all conversations at the same time:)
Zen Arado: I have to tell them I need to concentrate
Xirana Oximoxi: :))
Zen Arado: yes and Elinor was asking me questions
Xirana Oximoxi: yes:)
Xirana Oximoxi: you'll have to put the 'busy' mode:)
Zen Arado: but that can seem rude
Zen Arado: Jeff keeps changing days and times
Xirana Oximoxi: it's not rude...it's just that you are busy:))
Zen Arado: yes maybe I will do that
Xirana Oximoxi: he is busy RL lately, I think
Zen Arado: I know
Zen Arado: but I am busy too
Xirana Oximoxi: hehe me too:)) we are all busy people:))
Zen Arado: I don't know why
Zen Arado: perhaps we are looking for satisfaction?
Zen Arado: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: because we are active...yes...maybe looking for satisfaction :)
Zen Arado: I find I don't want to go places so much in RL these days
Zen Arado: I could have gone to a day long meditation session today
Zen Arado: but I preferred to stay home and work on poetry
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Xirana Oximoxi: well....you do what you prefer...that's good...:)
Zen Arado: 'prefer' is a funny word
Xirana Oximoxi: why? :)
Zen Arado: sometimes I feel a duty to do things
Zen Arado: but that is a thing I prefer as well?
Xirana Oximoxi: well... I think it may go a little with personality too...I thought that after my semester I would be lazy during 6 months and I am more active than before.))
Zen Arado: yes...it's as if we have no choice
Xirana Oximoxi: but also enjoi doing things...
Xirana Oximoxi: it's a choice
Zen Arado: I have a young friend who doesn't understand why I do so many things
Zen Arado: my older friends are worse
Xirana Oximoxi: I will go now Zen....thanks a lot for coming:) and I am serious when I say we must organise a reading of your poems:)
Zen Arado: ty
Xirana Oximoxi: ahhh then you see...it goes with your personality:)
Zen Arado: I need to work a lot more on them though
Xirana Oximoxi: ok...when you are ready:)
Xirana Oximoxi: see you soon!! :-)
Zen Arado: there is a poetry reading Eliza and I attend once a month
Zen Arado: you should come to that
Zen Arado: :)
Zen Arado: byee
Xirana Oximoxi: well... but I would like to hear yours:)
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye:)