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[19:18] Hana Furlough: hi para and dranna!
[19:18] Paradise Tennant: hiya hana :) how are you :)
[19:18] Paradise Tennant: dranna has just been shopping and we were having a fashion show :)
[19:18] Hana Furlough: good and you?
[19:18] Hana Furlough: oh nice
[19:19] Paradise Tennant: very well thank you .. big snow storm here tonight so nice to be cosy and indoors
[19:19] Hana Furlough: oh stay safe
[19:20] Paradise Tennant: that is a lovely bird on your head.. once rescued a pigeon and after a few days it started to feel much better landed on my head one morning as I was getting ready for work .. not sure that many folks start their day that way
[19:20] Hana Furlough: thanks
[19:21] Hana Furlough: wow great story
[19:21] Paradise Tennant: hiya luci how are you :))
[19:21] Paradise Tennant: dranna has just been shopping and we were having a fashon show
[19:21] Lucinda Lavender: pretty good...concert week:)
[19:22] Lucinda Lavender: nice!
[19:22] Hana Furlough: hi luci!
[19:22] Lucinda Lavender: hi Hana:)
[19:22] Paradise Tennant: that is a gorgious top dranna just lovely
[19:22] Paradise Tennant: what is the music ?
[19:22] Lucinda Lavender: Puccini mass
[19:23] Hana Furlough: yes very nice dranna
[19:23] Paradise Tennant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmNZpRrDUmc
[19:24] Lucinda Lavender: Luci clicks...
[19:24] Lucinda Lavender: yes...this is the music...very rich and fun to sing
[19:25] Paradise Tennant: yes sounds lovely
[19:25] Lucinda Lavender: thanks:)
[19:26] Hana Furlough: wish i could listen but i forgot my earphones :(
[19:26] Paradise Tennant: oh so sorry wonder if I can put in the land stream
[19:26] Lucinda Lavender: nodding...
[19:27] Lucinda Lavender: I need a new outfit myself:)
[19:27] Paradise Tennant: hmm apparently not
[19:27] Paradise Tennant: hmm
[19:27] Lucinda Lavender: did you have a favorite place
[19:27] Lucinda Lavender: ?
[19:27] Lucinda Lavender: dranna?
[19:28] Paradise Tennant: these are from leezu 's I believe
[19:28] Lucinda Lavender: thanks
[19:29] Lucinda Lavender: I will go later...
[19:30] Paradise Tennant: we are working on patience this week ?
[19:31] Lucinda Lavender: sounds like a useful word and idea
[19:31] Paradise Tennant: nods ..
[19:32] Paradise Tennant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patience
[19:32] Paradise Tennant: Patience is the level of endurance one can take before negativity
[19:32] Paradise Tennant: like this line very well
[19:33] Lucinda Lavender: yes me too
[19:34] Lucinda Lavender: endurance is such a great word
[19:34] Lucinda Lavender: it makes me think of runners
[19:34] Paradise Tennant: patience is necessary to see clearly ..
[19:35] Lucinda Lavender: luci listens
[19:35] Lucinda Lavender: can you say more about that?
[19:36] Paradise Tennant: well it it protects us from negativity then . it is a visionary tool :))
[19:36] Lucinda Lavender: tool for seeing
[19:36] Lucinda Lavender: nodding
[19:37] Paradise Tennant: and feeling well
[19:37] Lucinda Lavender: and keeping a calm mind
[19:38] Paradise Tennant: and a relationship tool both for your relations with yourself and others
[19:38] Paradise Tennant: often we most impatient with ourselves :)) .. does not do any real good
[19:39] Lucinda Lavender: impatiently allowing fear to take over
[19:39] Lucinda Lavender: and then anger too
[19:40] Paradise Tennant: smiles
[19:40] Hana Furlough: : )
[19:40] Paradise Tennant: it seems such a humble thing
[19:40] Lucinda Lavender: i just think of going to the most insecure place and it's outcome
[19:40] Paradise Tennant: but so powerful
[19:41] Hana Furlough: can you say more about that luci?
[19:42] Lucinda Lavender: was just thinking about how insecurity leads one along one path but to ask and trust oneself to choose what we delight in as the opposite of that
[19:43] Lucinda Lavender: found myself saying today ...i am curious, playful, caring...and watching how that increases the trust
[19:44] Lucinda Lavender: and it increased patience as well
[19:44] Paradise Tennant: smiles .. oh luci you are so curious playful and caring very on the mark description
[19:47] Paradise Tennant: In Buddhism, patience (Skt.: kshanti; Pali: khanti) is one of the "perfections" (paramitas) that a bodhisattva trains in and practices to realize perfect enlightenment (bodhi). The Buddhist concept of patience is distinct from the English definition of the word. In Buddhism, patience refers to not returning harm, rather than merely enduring a difficult situation. It is the ability to control one's emotions even when being criticized or attacked.[3]
[19:47] Paradise Tennant: this is an interesting bit too .
[19:48] Paradise Tennant: makes difficult situations much easier I think . it you can be in then and not want to think or do the negative thing
[19:48] Lucinda Lavender: yes!
[19:48] Hana Furlough: maybe something closer to forbearance
[19:49] Paradise Tennant: yes
[19:51] Lucinda Lavender: do you think everyone that pushes our buttons has needs or desires that motivate them?
[19:51] Hana Furlough: that sounds about right
[19:52] Hana Furlough: it's hard to remember sometimes, though (><)
[19:52] Lucinda Lavender: i focus on that with children...
[19:52] Paradise Tennant: can you say more luci
[19:52] Lucinda Lavender: sometimes the wiring makes them do some pretty unusual things
[19:52] Lucinda Lavender: but they show behaviors
[19:53] Lucinda Lavender: as a result of something ...over stimulation...frustration.
[19:53] Lucinda Lavender: doing some experimenting at work to find what works
[19:54] Paradise Tennant: at difusing outbursts ?
[19:54] Lucinda Lavender: easier in that environment than with adults tho...yes
[19:54] Paradise Tennant: listening and not reacting seem to work for me
[19:55] Lucinda Lavender: yes!
[19:55] Paradise Tennant: helps if you can make them laugh somehow
[19:55] Lucinda Lavender: yes that is good to remember
[19:56] Lucinda Lavender: once one starts to get angry tho it is hard to engage the humor
[19:56] Paradise Tennant: I find anger very hard to hold on to .. it is so heavy so draining
[19:56] Paradise Tennant: tend to forget very quicky ..
[19:57] Paradise Tennant: get sidetracked into something else
[19:57] Lucinda Lavender: today i had a compliment from an autistic child
[19:58] Paradise Tennant: smiles a very big smiel
[19:58] Lucinda Lavender: he pretended to saw off my hand...with a block and create a robotic one there instead
[19:58] Paradise Tennant: ooo
[19:58] Lucinda Lavender: he did this so lovingly
[19:58] Lucinda Lavender: and he loves robots
[19:59] Lucinda Lavender: just a surprise...
[19:59] Paradise Tennant: hard to see how they connect the dots sometimes but there is always a connection a flow
[20:00] Paradise Tennant: and for them often hard to show affection so you must be very special to him
[20:00] Lucinda Lavender: :)
[20:00] Paradise Tennant: hiya san we are talking of patience
[20:00] Lucinda Lavender: Hi San
[20:01] Santoshima Resident: hi, good topic
[20:01] Santoshima Resident: { eating a popcorn dinner } please continue
[20:02] Hana Furlough: hi san
[20:02] Santoshima Resident: hi Hana, Luci, Para
[20:02] Santoshima Resident: + dove
[20:02] Hana Furlough: : )
[20:02] Hana Furlough: dove to san: hi san
[20:02] Santoshima Resident: cooo
[20:03] Paradise Tennant: love a good popcorn dinner :)
[20:03] Santoshima Resident: me too, with nutritional yeast ~ and a glass of vintage water
[20:04] Lucinda Lavender: :)
[20:04] Paradise Tennant: what is vintagewater
[20:04] Santoshima Resident: tap water
[20:04] Santoshima Resident: in a glass
[20:04] Paradise Tennant: and nutritional yeast ?
[20:04] Santoshima Resident: um, it is called that on the package
[20:04] Santoshima Resident: i get it for the B vitamins
[20:05] Santoshima Resident: and my cats like it
[20:05] Lucinda Lavender: in their water too?
[20:05] Santoshima Resident: on their popcorn
[20:05] Lucinda Lavender: I think i should go for now
[20:06] Lucinda Lavender: getting tired
[20:06] Lucinda Lavender: holding a cold off
[20:06] Santoshima Resident: g'night luci
[20:06] Paradise Tennant: http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2011/10...nal-yeast.html
[20:06] Santoshima Resident: lotsa fluids
[20:06] Paradise Tennant: nite nite luci sweet dreams
[20:06] Lucinda Lavender: stay well all...see you soon
[20:06] Hana Furlough: bye luci!
[20:07] Hana Furlough: i should get back to work as well
[20:07] Hana Furlough: bye all!
[20:07] Paradise Tennant: smiles nite ntie hana thanks for dropping by :))
[20:07] Santoshima Resident: bye hana
[20:07] Paradise Tennant: how have you been san ?
[20:07] Santoshima Resident: very well thanks
[20:07] Santoshima Resident: you?
[20:08] Santoshima Resident: _sorry to be late}
[20:08] Paradise Tennant: very well too .. snowy storming night here
[20:08] Paradise Tennant: happy to be inside
[20:08] Santoshima Resident: storming?
[20:08] Santoshima Resident: wow, like spring here
[20:08] Paradise Tennant: lucky you
[20:08] Santoshima Resident: yes, good to stay inside on snowy nights
[20:08] Santoshima Resident: the pup is ok with snow?
[20:08] Paradise Tennant: loves it
[20:09] Santoshima Resident: aww
[20:09] Paradise Tennant: grinds his face in it out of sheer happiness and then ends up with this face helmet he cannot see through sort of funny really
[20:09] Paradise Tennant: have to dig it out so he can see
[20:09] Santoshima Resident: oh, sweet
[20:13] Santoshima Resident: { i have not much to say about patience, toight ... quite at ease ... patience seems only come forward as an issue when it is needed. otherwise, patience is maybe a state of rest with what is.
[20:13] Paradise Tennant: smiles yes
[20:13] Santoshima Resident: and isn't noticed so much
[20:14] Paradise Tennant: i guess surrender to the moment is also an act of patience
[20:25] Santoshima Resident: bye for now, PAradise, good to see you.
[20:25] Santoshima Resident: hugs
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