Catrinamonblue Resident: 's current display-name is "Catrinamonblue".
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Cat
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Eos
--BELL--
Eos Amaterasu: the first bell has no special effects
Catrinamonblue Resident: :) no
Eos Amaterasu: Catrinamonblue Resident: Vulnerability - letting ourselves be deeply seen. living whole heartedly (to tell the story of who you are with your whole heart) with gratitude believing I am enough I am worthy letting go control. Ted talk Brene Brown: The power of vulnerability http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCvms...endscreen&NR=1
Eos Amaterasu: (from the Guardian Session on Sunday)
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes :)
Eos Amaterasu: "letting ourselves be deeply seen"
Eos Amaterasu: by ourselves, then by others?
Catrinamonblue Resident: to the very core of how we are
Eos Amaterasu: why is that important, or urgent, to be seen to the very core?
Catrinamonblue Resident: thinking
Catrinamonblue Resident: to be understood
Catrinamonblue Resident: to know we are ok as we are
Eos Amaterasu: ummm
Catrinamonblue Resident: words are not with me tonight
Eos Amaterasu: that's okay (you're doing pretty well :-)
Catrinamonblue Resident: no dancing on the keyboard :)
Eos Amaterasu: is that a kind of loneliness, there?
Catrinamonblue Resident: validation maybe though I think maybe we shouldn't need it
Catrinamonblue Resident: loneliness yes I think there is
Catrinamonblue Resident: to be seen to be heard?
Catrinamonblue Resident: to be understood
Eos Amaterasu: "you lose yourself, you re-appear, you suddenly find you have nothing to fear, alone you stand, with nobody near, till some trembling distant voice unclear startles your sleeping ear to hear that somebody thinks they've really found you" - Bob Dylan
Catrinamonblue Resident: wow yes
Eos Amaterasu: maybe there's a bit of that loneliness of mindfulness
Eos Amaterasu: that you can't dwell anywhere, including on yourself
Eos Amaterasu: so absent yourself you are aware
Catrinamonblue Resident: nods
Eos Amaterasu: less agenda: you can listen to yourself, see your agendas
Eos Amaterasu: the listening is bigger
Eos Amaterasu: How do we notice vulnerability?
Eos Amaterasu: Let's try that in upcoming 90 second pause
Catrinamonblue Resident: k
Catrinamonblue Resident: k
--BELL--
Catrinamonblue Resident: vulnerability is letting go control, allowing another person to do what they need to even though that may cause you hurt
Catrinamonblue Resident: letting go
Eos Amaterasu: hmm, yes
Eos Amaterasu: there's also the same thing, just changing "other person" to you :-)
Eos Amaterasu: mabye there's more humor in that
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Eos Amaterasu: vulnerability is letting go control, allowingyou to do what you need to even though that may cause you hurt
Catrinamonblue Resident: change
Catrinamonblue Resident: control is trying to keep everything the same
Catrinamonblue Resident: letting go is allowing change
Eos Amaterasu: so your old self dies
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes
Eos Amaterasu: that's kind of a larger dimension of vulnerability - the poignancy of experience each moment in the perspective of your finite bubble of apparent existence
Eos Amaterasu: I won't be able to hold on to any of this
Eos Amaterasu: nevertheless, it is sweetly there
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Catrinamonblue Resident: I like that :)
Eos Amaterasu: like this pavilion has a kind of non-existence
Eos Amaterasu: nevertheless it is open and welcoming and nourishing
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Eos Amaterasu: I guess when you finally accept yourself you can let yourself go
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Eos Amaterasu: kind of ironic
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes
Eos Amaterasu: but it also seems hard to be vulnerable
Catrinamonblue Resident: there is fear in letting go, what if I fall?
Eos Amaterasu: to really accept someone else, be with them, you also let go yourself
Eos Amaterasu: yes, that's the thing about letting go, isn't it?
Eos Amaterasu: you don't know if or where you'll end up
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Aph
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Aph
Eos Amaterasu: maybe, re "fear in letting go, what if i fail?", that bigger perspective comes in - this bubble will burst anyway
Aphrodite Macbain: Hell you two
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Eos Amaterasu thinks, how rude :-)
Catrinamonblue Resident: I think she meant hello :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: lol
Aphrodite Macbain: oops
--BELL--
Aphrodite Macbain: solly
Eos Amaterasu: we've been taking off from what Cat said at guardian meeting:
Eos Amaterasu: [19:03] Eos Amaterasu: Catrinamonblue Resident: Vulnerability - letting ourselves be deeply seen. living whole heartedly (to tell the story of who you are with your whole heart) with gratitude believing I am enough I am worthy letting go control.
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks EOs.
Aphrodite Macbain: I would love to be able to do this. I think one can start with one's partner.
Catrinamonblue Resident: we have been talking mostly on letting go control
Eos Amaterasu: Humour has a bit of that aspect of letting go control
Eos Amaterasu: like little bits of control losing can elecit gasp or aha or haha
Aphrodite Macbain: by taking things lightly?
Eos Amaterasu: "and I think I like it"
Eos Amaterasu: yes, taking things lightly
Aphrodite Macbain: yes- it can be a delicate operation
Eos Amaterasu: with space and light around them
Aphrodite Macbain: and compassionate communication
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes
Hana Furlough: 's current display-name is "Hana".
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Hana!
Hana Furlough: Hi Eos, Cat, and Aph
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Hanna
Hana Furlough: (and sorry for standing on you, Aph)
Eos Amaterasu: the in your face landing approach :-)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: you were very light
Hana Furlough: haha yes. thanks
Eos Amaterasu: our avatars here are weightless, so we can take them more lightly
Hana Furlough: : )
Aphrodite Macbain: we are talking about how to create trust and a space for others to be vulnerable
Hana Furlough: sounds like a good approach
Eos Amaterasu: and about letting go
Hana Furlough: ahh ok
Catrinamonblue Resident: others and ourselves
Aphrodite Macbain: but the need for a space place to let go in
Aphrodite Macbain: It can be created.
Eos Amaterasu: when you have no agenda, the other is just suspended in space, and comes through loud and clear
Aphrodite Macbain: It requires being sensitive to the fears and needs of the other
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes
Aphrodite Macbain: what is hurtful
Aphrodite Macbain: why people close up
Aphrodite Macbain: it also takes courage for the vulnerable person to state their needs and fears
Eos Amaterasu: their needs and fears might turn out to be non-issues in the presence of space
Eos Amaterasu: non-issues to themselves
Hana Furlough: space is kind of scary though
Eos Amaterasu: very
Hana Furlough: as a concept
Eos Amaterasu: why is that?
Hana Furlough: because it might feel like nothingness
Aphrodite Macbain: yes- each one of us is different
Eos Amaterasu: or how do you experience that?
Eos Amaterasu: ah might feel like nothingness - can you say more?
Hana Furlough: or powerlessness
Aphrodite Macbain: yes. It takes compassion
Eos Amaterasu: let's try it in the upcoming 90 seconds
Eos Amaterasu: jump into space
Eos Amaterasu: jump into nothingness
Aphrodite Macbain: nothingness for me is extremely frightening. I would curl up in a ball inside nothigness
Eos Amaterasu: jump over the edge
Hana Furlough: yeah nothingness would be something like total chaos
Aphrodite Macbain: free fall
Eos Amaterasu: whatever that means to you
Hana Furlough: without justice and compassion
Catrinamonblue Resident: I have already been kicked over the edge with a parachute and the instructions just have to figure it out before I hit the bottom
Aphrodite Macbain: with no structure or boundaries
Eos Amaterasu: ah, yes Hana, that's on the mark, I think, fear of chaos
Hana Furlough: : ) at cat
Hana Furlough: yeah
Eos Amaterasu: okay, time to jump!
Catrinamonblue Resident: 3, 2, 1 go
Hana Furlough: like now, nothing is ever going to work if i stop trying to control things
Aphrodite Macbain: canon ball approach to jumping
Hana Furlough: yes
Aphrodite Macbain: noooooooooooooooooo
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
--BELL--
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hana I am a control freak, grew up one and have always been in control. Now I am learning to let go and at first I though I never would be able to but the fear is baseless, and letting go control has been like taking a deep breath and letting it out slowly, like a meditation :) and the fear evaporates
Hana Furlough: yeah i find that is true as well, but there is of course a lingering fear
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes
Eos Amaterasu: how were your jumps?
Hana Furlough: a fear that makes these kinds of discussions possible
Hana Furlough: pleasant. and you, eos?
Catrinamonblue Resident: like a breath Eos :)
Eos Amaterasu: started out not trying to do anything, just let go , let go
Eos Amaterasu: things kind of brightened up, in an energized space
Eos Amaterasu: attention, but just things being themselves
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Eos Amaterasu: did you survive, Aph?
Eos Amaterasu: Aph?
Hana Furlough: oh no, is aph lost in space?
Aphrodite Macbain: I went to get my soup
Catrinamonblue Resident: lol
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm lost in soup
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Hana Furlough: oh good. that is better
Eos Amaterasu: see, when you let go you get soup!
Aphrodite Macbain: Falling in space is a deep fear.
Aphrodite Macbain: Eating soup counteracts it
Hana Furlough: : )
Eos Amaterasu: I used to get negative claustrophobia looking at the stars
Hana Furlough: wow
Aphrodite Macbain: especialy when it has coconut milk in it
Aphrodite Macbain: agoraphobia Eos?
Eos Amaterasu: Aph follows the coconut milky way
Hana Furlough: haha
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Eos Amaterasu: so kind of a warm space, Aph, it seems
Eos Amaterasu: there is that notion of space as a big womb
Eos Amaterasu: everything gets born in it
Aphrodite Macbain: a space with noodles and chicken and veggies
Aphrodite Macbain: a melting pot
Eos Amaterasu: maybe back to that notion of finding your seat in giving in to open space
Aphrodite Macbain: constantly bubbling
Hana Furlough: yeah, i think that kind of sense of possibility is necessary
Hana Furlough: there's a mysterious order to it
Aphrodite Macbain: are there seats in space?
Catrinamonblue Resident: or just parachutes?
Eos Amaterasu: the seat of no fixation
Eos Amaterasu: "parachuting in space, without a parachute"
Aphrodite Macbain: free falling floating somewhere and nowhere in particular
Eos Amaterasu: if you look up at the stars, you realize you can look down just as far
Hana Furlough: just visiting
Eos Amaterasu: ack!
Aphrodite Macbain: If you had x ray eyes
Eos Amaterasu: neutrino eyes
Aphrodite Macbain: we need our blue and white world and all the beings in it
Catrinamonblue Resident: about falling
Catrinamonblue Resident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pId6zdWjtwk&list=FLdqW6AUUUfx1gKGwcoc6zOQ
Aphrodite Macbain: Aphro go hooooome
Catrinamonblue Resident: love this video :)
Eos Amaterasu: will be exit music for me, thank you cat, and aph and hana
Catrinamonblue Resident: Bye Eos :)
Hana Furlough: thanks, eos
Hana Furlough: i should get back to work as well
Hana Furlough: thank you all and bye for now!
Catrinamonblue Resident: Bye Hanna
Eos Amaterasu: ciao, Hana
Catrinamonblue Resident: and I should be off to bed :)
Aphrodite Macbain: waves across the world
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Catrinamonblue Resident: night Aph Eos :)
Aphrodite Macbain: nite
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