2013.02.27 07:00 - Griefers and Love Poems

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Zen Arado. The comments are by Zen Arado.


    Zen Arado: Hi Yaku
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey zen
    Zen Arado: pavilion jsut came on again
    Yakuzza Lethecus: they are really regular with their resets
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i hope you are well ?
    Zen Arado: there wasn't one last week
    Zen Arado: but mostly regular
    Zen Arado: not bad thanks
    Zen Arado: you?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, fine neither great or bad
    Zen Arado: middling as we say in the UK :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: actually i haven´t heard that
    Zen Arado: maybe not much used so much nowadays
    Zen Arado: you ask someone how they are and they say 'middling'
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i think it´s better then saying ,,fine"
    Zen Arado: maybe more truthful
    Zen Arado: I have a griefer attack at my place
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ha!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i mean the restart
    Yakuzza Lethecus: not what you said
    Zen Arado: lots of noises and red and blue shapes
    Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey bleu
    Zen Arado: Hi Bleu
    Bleu Oleander: hiya
    Zen Arado: you have it too?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ur comming right for the 2nd sim restart
    Bleu Oleander: next to me on Paradise's place
    Zen Arado: what?
    Bleu Oleander: massive lag as a result
    Zen Arado: it just came back now it's going down again
    Bleu Oleander: is your auto return set to 1?
    Zen Arado: it is now
    Bleu Oleander: hehe
    Yakuzza Lethecus: what does that mean ?
    Bleu Oleander: I hope others do the same
    Yakuzza Lethecus: the autoreturn setting
    Bleu Oleander: yes
    Zen Arado: better go to Kira
    Bleu Oleander: oops
    Bleu Oleander: yes

    There was a Restart so we went to Kira:

    Zen (zen.arado): I've never seen that before
    Zen (zen.arado): tow restarts
    Zen (zen.arado): two
    Zen (zen.arado): it was off when I came online then restarted and then just went off again
    Zen (zen.arado): trouble is at my place it will send MellowDee's pieces back to her
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): what does the autoreturn setting1 mean ? will you autorelog as soon as the sim is back online ?
    Zen (zen.arado): this is the second attack like that I have had
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): mean other's items will be returned in 1 minute
    Zen (zen.arado): no it autoreturns objects
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): "0" setting means nothing is returned
    Zen (zen.arado): not sure that will stop them though
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): only thing we can do is keep reporting it
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): and ask that owners set their auto return to 1
    Zen (zen.arado): why do people do that?
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): ugh
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): who knows
    Zen (zen.arado): we didn't do them any harm?
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): nothing better to do I gues
    Zen (zen.arado): must be nasty kids
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): or nasty grownups :)
    Zen (zen.arado): showing how clever they are
    Zen (zen.arado): they think
    Zen (zen.arado): can take days before LL fix it
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): also when land is abandoned, LL sets to 0 so part of the problem
    Zen (zen.arado): I will also file a report
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): not sure why they do that
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): great thanks Zen
    Zen (zen.arado): actually this is third time for me
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): was it an older avatar, or just a new one ?
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): many times in our sim
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): new one
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): 3 mos
    Zen (zen.arado): avatar?
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): spammatar ?
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): ?
    Zen (zen.arado): person who caused problem?
    Zen (zen.arado): don't know
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): got the name by clicking on one of the prim generators
    Zen (zen.arado): if you can find them
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): i was just thinking that i think its almost impossible to catch such ppl if they just make new avatars
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): easy in this case
    Zen (zen.arado): they put them underground
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): right Yaku
    Zen (zen.arado): last time I couldn't find
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): i don´t think the lindens put up alot of manpower to fight spam like that
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): no
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): still haven't answered all our reports from last time
    Zen (zen.arado): last time bad language was coming up in my chat
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): seems we've had a lot lately
    Zen (zen.arado): we seem to be a target now
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): our nice quiet little beach :)
    Zen (zen.arado): they can just use a different av and start again
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): maybe sl needs a captcha for login, so that no scripted avis can just log on automatically
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes
    Zen (zen.arado): sighs
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): sighs too
    Zen (zen.arado): :)
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): :)
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): otherwise how are you both?
    Zen (zen.arado): middling :)
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): middling :)
    Zen (zen.arado): heh
    Zen (zen.arado): I just taught Yaku that
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): ah ok
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): means so so?
    Zen (zen.arado): don't think Americans say that?
    Zen (zen.arado): yes
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): no
    Zen (zen.arado): so so is UK too I think?
    Zen (zen.arado): so many idioms
    Zen (zen.arado): a N.Irish one 'I'm rightly'
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): OK is one i've heard often
    Zen (zen.arado): weird when I look at it
    Zen (zen.arado): what is the topic?
    Zen (zen.arado): Love was it?
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): love and being
    Zen (zen.arado): griefer love
    Zen (zen.arado): :)
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): ha!
    Zen (zen.arado): is tough
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): plenty of that!

    Poems of Billy Collins:

    Zen (zen.arado): you heard of Billy Collins the poet Bleu?
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): no I haven't
    Zen (zen.arado): strange...Eliza hadn't either
    Zen (zen.arado): yet he was American poet Laureate
    Zen (zen.arado): he is a great poet
    Zen (zen.arado): clever and amusing
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes, just googling
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): will have to read some of his work
    Zen (zen.arado): I read this poem on Sunday
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): Poet Laureate of the United States from 2001 to 2003
    Zen (zen.arado): AIMless Love
     
     This morning as I walked along the lakeshore,
     I fell in love with a wren
     and later in the day with a mouse
     the cat had dropped under the dining room table.
     
     In the shadows of an autumn evening,
     I fell for a seamstress
     still at her machine in the tailor’s window,
     and later for a bowl of broth,
     steam rising like smoke from a naval battle.
     
     This is the best kind of love, I thought,
     without recompense, without gifts,
     or unkind words, without suspicion,
     or silence on the telephone.
     
     The love of the chestnut,
     the jazz cap and one hand on the wheel.
     
     No lust, no slam of the door –
     the love of the miniature orange tree,
     the clean white shirt, the hot evening shower,
     the highway that cuts across Florida.
     
     No waiting, no huffiness, or rancor –
     just a twinge every now and then
     
     for the wren who had built her nest
     on a low branch overhanging the water
     and for the dead mouse,
     still dressed in its light brown suit.
     
     But my heart is always propped up
     in a field on its
    Zen (zen.arado): tripod,
     ready for the next arrow.
     
     After I carried the mouse by the tail
     to a pile of leaves in the woods,
     I found myself standing at the bathroom sink
     gazing down affectionately at the soap,
     
     so patient and soluble,
     so at home in its pale green soap dish.
     I could feel myself falling again
     as I felt its turning in my wet hands
     and caught the scent of lavender and stone.

    Bleu (bleu.oleander): a lot to think about there
    Zen (zen.arado): yes
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): so many visual images in my mind
    Zen (zen.arado): a deep love for everything
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes
    Zen (zen.arado): great imagery
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): really strong
    Zen (zen.arado): what is a jazz cap?
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): hat

    Zen (zen.arado): like on a trumpet?
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): seems many styles can be called that

    Zen (zen.arado): sorry I repeated a paste accidentally
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): np ... nice to read again
    Zen (zen.arado): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddw1_3ZVjTE
    Zen (zen.arado): a nice little video of him reading poems with animations
    Zen (zen.arado): my writing tutor told us he was in N.Ireland a few years ago giving readings with Seamus Heaney
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): thanks Zen ... I like to make videos from poems
    Zen (zen.arado): an interesting combination
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes!
    Zen (zen.arado): since poems evoke a lot of imagery with words
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): exactly
    Zen (zen.arado): you wouldn't want to take anythingf away from that
    Zen (zen.arado): from the power of the words I mean
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): watching ... very interesting
    Zen (zen.arado): good images can be difficult to think up
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): yes!
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): just made it to budapest
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): Budapest ... nice
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): ha!
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): :)
    Zen (zen.arado): must be harder in another language Yaku
    Zen (zen.arado): hard enough in your own
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): exactly, i neither claim to understand poetry in any language :)
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): wow this is amazing
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): dollhouse = sl .... :)
    Zen (zen.arado): :)
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): i recall fragments but the true meaning is rarely disclosed to me
    Zen (zen.arado): and horror :)
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): ok I'll have to get some of his books hehe
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): thanks Zen
    Zen (zen.arado): me too
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): thx you two
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): I want to do some videos on my poetry too
    Zen (zen.arado): the last poem is the best
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): so this is inspiring
    Zen (zen.arado): the mouse one is so funny
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes but sad
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): love the last one :)
    Zen (zen.arado): wonder if he has a 17 year old daughter
    Zen (zen.arado): or did have
    Zen (zen.arado): I see another video there on creativity
    Zen (zen.arado): must watch that one
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): which ?
    Zen (zen.arado): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRlftnvHO2A
    Zen (zen.arado): but it's over an hour
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): ok will watch later ... thanks!
    Zen (zen.arado): it's best to hear poetry read out
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): I agree
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): I read it aloud to myself
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): always sounds better
    Zen (zen.arado): the words have music
    Zen (zen.arado): of their sounds
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): yes
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): and more vivid imagery
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): i got to go, see or hear you soon
    Zen (zen.arado): kk
    Zen (zen.arado): Yaku
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): ok take care Yaku
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): I should get to work ... thanks again Zen
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): great discovery for me
    Zen (zen.arado): thanks for coming Bleu
    Bleu (bleu.oleander): take care
    Zen (zen.arado): bye for now

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