2013.06.20 07:00 - Fires, Contrasts, and The Gods

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[07:27] Storm Nordwind: Hello Rosatta :)
[07:27] Rosatta Resident: Hello, Storm. Nice to meet you : )
[07:27] Storm Nordwind: You too. I had wondered whether I would watch the lengthening shadows alone.
[07:28] Rosatta Resident: : )
[07:28] Rosatta Resident: It is evening for you?
[07:28] Storm Nordwind: Here in the pavilion, yes. Outside in real life, the sky is a deep morning blue - though a little smoky today
[07:29] Rosatta Resident: Are you on the US west coast - if it ok to ask
[07:29] Rosatta Resident: I live in Washington STate

[07:30] Storm Nordwind: I live in Colorado. The mountains are dimmed by wildfire.
[07:30] Rosatta Resident: Oh I'm sorry. I haven't been following the news so I didn't know
[07:30] Rosatta Resident: I am sorry for all the suffering that is causing
[07:31] Storm Nordwind: Yes, many become displaced or lose what they had. But to follow the news properly in this country seems to require a special effort! So no blame there. :)
[07:32] Rosatta Resident: : )
[07:32] Rosatta Resident: I am sorry for the loss of trees and the suffering of animals, too. I some ways it is worse for the animals
[07:32] Storm Nordwind: Few can outrun a wildfire. Only those that fly can escape.
[07:33] Rosatta Resident: Yes

[07:33] Rosatta Resident: Do you know the story of Smokey the Bear?
[07:33] Storm Nordwind: No I do not. I guess I must have led a sheltered childhood. ;)
[07:33] Rosatta Resident: lol
[07:34] Rosatta Resident: The original was a bear cub found up a tree after a fire with all its fur burned off.
[07:34] Rosatta Resident: It was rescued and became the mascot for preventing forest fires
[07:34] Storm Nordwind: Poor thing. A real bear then?

[07:35] Rosatta Resident: Yes
[07:35] Rosatta Resident: Hello, visitor
[07:35] Rosatta Resident giggles
[07:35] Rosatta Resident: Good by, visitor

[07:37] Rosatta Resident: Steve Irwin has a video on YouTube where he goes through an area burned deliberately and it is heartbreaking the suffering of the animals caught in that
[07:37] Rosatta Resident: It was a planned burn that was supposed to help 'rejuvinate' the area
[07:38] Storm Nordwind: Yes. Those are controversial. Where I grew up, farmers fired their fields after growing grain. That wasn't always popular.

[07:39] Rosatta Resident: Are they having any success containing the fires in your area?
[07:40] Storm Nordwind: Yes. It's a slow arduous process each time. And then it's OK... until the next one.
[07:40] Rosatta Resident: I wish there was an effective preventative measure
[07:42] Storm Nordwind: Well there are obvious things, like clearing away detritus around your home, and not building your home out of wood. But it goes with the territory, and it's just a risk people face here. It's a relatively small minus in a place of massive pluses.
[07:42] Rosatta Resident: : )
[07:42] Rosatta Resident: Colorado is beautiful
[07:42] Storm Nordwind smiles and nods

[07:43] Storm Nordwind: I have visited Washington only once. Two years ago. And then only to Seattle and Vashon.
[07:44] Rosatta Resident: Seattle is a nice city, as cities go
[07:44] Rosatta Resident: This whole area is so odd socially - very diverse
[07:44] Rosatta Resident: From country, to red neck-y, to sophisticated, to lunatic

[07:45] Storm Nordwind: That diversity gives a maturity and balance, something many other places have yet to achieve i suspect.
[07:47] Rosatta Resident: There are many things I appreciate about it. We have the greatest congress people in Washington - the best voting records.
[07:47] Rosatta Resident: But there is a lot of corruption on the local level
[07:47] Rosatta Resident: That's an interesting contrast
[07:47] Storm Nordwind: That seems to go with the country! ;)
[07:47] Rosatta Resident laughing ruefully
[07:47] Rosatta Resident: You may be right

[07:48] Rosatta Resident: The people here are the most generous of anywhere in helping the poor and disabled that I have ever encountered
[07:48] Rosatta Resident: But they don't like people - they want distance
[07:48] Storm Nordwind: It is the same in some other countries too.
[07:49] Storm Nordwind: But each place has its reasons.

[07:49] Rosatta Resident: I just think the contrasts are interesting
[07:49] Rosatta Resident: There is greater contrast than anywhere I've ever lived
[07:50] Rosatta Resident: In the town I live in there are a lot of heavily medicated mentally ill people, and others. More than I've ever seen anywhere else
[07:50] Storm Nordwind: If only the weather there was a little better than the warmer version of Scotland (where I lived for a while), it might be more attractive! ;)
[07:51] Rosatta Resident: lol
[07:51] Rosatta Resident: I grew up on the coast in mid-California, so this is very similar
[07:51] Rosatta Resident: I am physically more comfortable with this weather
[07:52] Storm Nordwind: It's surprising how people adapt. I prefer cooler weather, but when I worked in Malaysia I was fine after only three days.
[07:52] Rosatta Resident: You must have been quite young lol
[07:53] Storm Nordwind: In my 50s. But I'll take that as a compliment! ;)
[07:53] Rosatta Resident: Good : )

[07:54] Rosatta Resident: I find that I just can't do really cold winters and snow is nice to visit but I don't like to live in it
[07:55] Storm Nordwind: Dry cold is fine. Like here. Humid cold by the sea rather less so. Then the wind becomes "lazy"; it doesn't bother going round you and goes right through you instead.
[07:55] Rosatta Resident chuckling
[07:56] Rosatta Resident: that is a very good image

[07:57] Rosatta Resident: I lived in Delta, Utah when I was younger and winters were long and hard with winds that would often top-out the instruments
[07:57] Rosatta Resident: Didn't like that at all
[07:57] Rosatta Resident: I lived in the Netherlands for one winter - harsh, harsh winters there, too, with wind
[07:57] Rosatta Resident: I think I just decided against snowy places lol
[07:58] Storm Nordwind: Yes, the wind off the North Sea is unforgiving. That from the hinterland is merciless. :)
[07:58] Rosatta Resident: That is a kind country socially, and the summers in the south were very nice - but those winters brrrrrrr
[07:59] Storm Nordwind: One of my favorite places.
[07:59] Storm Nordwind: On my list of countries that I almost moved to!
[07:59] Rosatta Resident: The only other place I've been overseas is Panama

[08:02] Storm Nordwind: I'm afraid the only thing I know about Panama relates to the famous palindrome!
[08:02] Rosatta Resident: I don't know anything about that
[08:03] Rosatta Resident: I lived there '78 - '81
[08:03] Storm Nordwind nods
[08:03] Rosatta Resident: I saw Noriega in a parade
[08:03] Storm Nordwind: "A man, a plan, a canal: Panama."
[08:04] Rosatta Resident: I saw that documentary a long time ago. I don't remember much about it, though
[08:04] Storm Nordwind: (That was the palindrome.)
[08:04] Storm Nordwind: Other than that I know nothing. Did you enjoy it there?
[08:04] Rosatta Resident: Not a building?
[08:05] Rosatta Resident: Panama was amazing. I love wildlife and there was so much there right up to your doorstep
[08:06] Storm Nordwind: No a palindrome is not a building. It's a word or sentence that says exactly the same thing if the letters are reversed. :) But it does sound an interesting place.
[08:06] Rosatta Resident: Cool : )
[08:07] Rosatta Resident: I don't know what it is like now. I was there as the change from the US being in control to the Panamanian government taking over
[08:07] Rosatta Resident: It looked as if Panama was struggling
[08:08] Rosatta Resident: They were trying to train pilots - I think that is what they call them - the people who board a ship at one end of the canal and guide it through
[08:09] Storm Nordwind nods
[08:09] Rosatta Resident: Anyway the pilots they were trying to train weren't working out very well
[08:09] Rosatta Resident: And other things
[08:09] Storm Nordwind: It takes years to be a good pilot.

[08:09] Storm Nordwind: Hi there Cinda!
[08:09] Rosatta Resident: It's been a long time so I'm assuming they got it sorted
[08:10] Lucinda Lavender: takes a long time for everthing to rez
[08:10] Rosatta Resident: You are trailing sparklies : )
[08:11] Lucinda Lavender: yes
[08:11] Rosatta Resident: Magical : )
[08:12] Lucinda Lavender: the romance of magic
[08:12] Rosatta Resident: Yes

[08:12] Rosatta Resident: What is the color-changing bit? All I am seeing is a square
[08:13] Lucinda Lavender: it comes from a building session where it got in the way:)))
[08:13] Lucinda Lavender: kept it because it makes me laugh
[08:13] Storm Nordwind chuckles
[08:13] Rosatta Resident: lol I love it :-D
[08:15] Lucinda Lavender: seems appropriate somehow

[08:16] Rosatta Resident: Well, dear Pabers, I must be off
[08:17] Lucinda Lavender: have a great day
[08:17] Storm Nordwind: Pleasure to be with you :)
[08:17] Lucinda Lavender: time to go?
[08:18] Storm Nordwind: Whatever you like! ;)
[08:19] Lucinda Lavender: so...I have a dream that came from a few years ago..and i want to get your take on it...
[08:19] Storm Nordwind: Oh... I'll do my best!
[08:19] Storm Nordwind might need to wake up properly first! ;)

[08:20] Lucinda Lavender: more cofee:)in it...I am in a theater...sitting in the higher tiers
[08:20] Lucinda Lavender: looking out at the dark where the audience would be.
[08:21] Lucinda Lavender: A tall blonde woman is interacting with the audience and smiles down at me.
[08:23] Lucinda Lavender: This is a performance of Joseph and the amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat. I say "consciousness and vibration choreograph the dream and the story. She asks me to repeat the statement as it was unexpected.
[08:24] Lucinda Lavender: I was thinking...what do you think that means...consciousness and vibration choreograph the dream and the story...?
[08:24] Storm Nordwind considers
[08:25] Storm Nordwind: What are the alternatives? What else could choreograph?
[08:25] Lucinda Lavender: nothing as far as i can see...
[08:26] Storm Nordwind: Are you aware of the common term for being set up in the higher audience tiers? :)
[08:26] Lucinda Lavender: no...what might that be?
[08:26] Storm Nordwind chuckles
[08:26] Lucinda Lavender: :))
[08:26] Storm Nordwind: Those seat are called "The Gods". You were "in the gods".
[08:27] Lucinda Lavender: ah!
[08:27] Lucinda Lavender: The thought passed through:)
[08:27] Storm Nordwind smiles
[08:27] Lucinda Lavender: sitting in light also
[08:28] Storm Nordwind nods
[08:28] Lucinda Lavender: where dreams are choreographed
[08:28] Storm Nordwind: Where better?

[08:28] Lucinda Lavender: maybe that light is like a vibration?
[08:28] Storm Nordwind: Life is a vibration.

[08:29] Lucinda Lavender: ok good...just checking:)
[08:29] Lucinda Lavender: not too romantic of a notion?
[08:29] Lucinda Lavender: it just seems possible to me
[08:29] Storm Nordwind: I'm not sure what "too romantic" means. Is that even possible? ;)

[08:32] Storm Nordwind: Being "in the gods" actually pushes aside romanticism. You are far removed from individual emotions. You have perspective beyond any romanticism
[08:32] Lucinda Lavender: ah ha! yes...
[08:33] Lucinda Lavender: sometimes I have wondered...but the dream really sets up the story here
[08:33] Lucinda Lavender: sitting with a view
[08:34] Lucinda Lavender: into darkness where listening will happen
[08:34] Lucinda Lavender: where everyone watches from perhaps

[08:35] Storm Nordwind: The rest of the audience is in the dark. Are they really there at all? For whose benefit is the performance for anyway?

[08:35] Lucinda Lavender: good question! it felt empty to me:)
[08:35] Lucinda Lavender: maybe me...
[08:36] Storm Nordwind: Indeed
[08:36] Lucinda Lavender: or the gods
[08:36] Storm Nordwind: "I am the mother, and the child. I god, I matter, am"

[08:36] Lucinda Lavender: it felt like a teaching sort of dream
[08:37] Lucinda Lavender: yes
[08:37] Lucinda Lavender: perhaps informing one on how to interpret dreams
[08:38] Lucinda Lavender: to just see it is in a larger context...not just what you ate before you went to sleep...
[08:39] Storm Nordwind: I suspect there is more than one way. Different ways at different times can be valid.
[08:40] Lucinda Lavender: so true
[08:40] Lucinda Lavender: :)
[08:41] Lucinda Lavender: great! thanks for you help with this
[08:41] Lucinda Lavender: Thanks for your help with this
[08:41] Lucinda Lavender: thanks for your help wi this
[08:41] Lucinda Lavender: :))
[08:41] Storm Nordwind: My pleasure to be of what little service i can muster! :)
[08:42] Storm Nordwind: Be well, my friend.
[08:42] Storm Nordwind: Namaste
[08:42] Lucinda Lavender: namaste