2013.06.30 01:00 - finding the right route

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[01:05] Xirana Oximoxi: morning Wol:)
[01:05] Wol Euler: buenos dias, xirana
[01:05] Xirana Oximoxi: buenos días :)
[01:06] Wol Euler: hello aggers
[01:06] Agatha Macbeth: Hehe I walked
[01:06] Wol Euler smiles.
[01:06] Xirana Oximoxi: I was at the Dome:) watching Bleu's and Bruce works:) and also Aga...getting inspired
[01:06] Xirana Oximoxi: yes:))
[01:06] Wol Euler: ah :) nice
[01:06] Agatha Macbeth: Yep
[01:07] Xirana Oximoxi: I've been quicker...did not want to get lost:)
[01:07] Agatha Macbeth: Oh I know the route well
[01:07] Wol Euler smiles.

[01:07] Xirana Oximoxi: yesterday I've been turning around and making a lot of km. lost..in South of Catalonia ..trying to find the right route...:)
[01:08] Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
[01:08] Wol Euler: awwww
[01:08] Xirana Oximoxi: I was really angry how bad the indications in small villages are
[01:08] Wol Euler nods.
[01:08] Agatha Macbeth: Small french villages are like that too
[01:08] Wol Euler: "but everyone knows that, we don't need a sign for it"
[01:09] Xirana Oximoxi: yes...but imagine a foreign person..if I get lost and more or less know where I am...
[01:09] Xirana Oximoxi: crazy+
[01:09] Wol Euler: oh I totally agree, that was an example of how people think
[01:09] Wol Euler: and why they don't put up more signs
[01:09] Xirana Oximoxi: yes:)

[01:10] Xirana Oximoxi: is it better in Deutchland?
[01:10] Xirana Oximoxi: next time I will borrow a GPS :)
[01:10] Agatha Macbeth: Probably, the germans are so efficient
[01:11] Xirana Oximoxi: sure:)
[01:11] Wol Euler: I think it is, yes. We are very seldom lost here, even without gps
[01:12] Xirana Oximoxi: ok...a good reason to go visit :)

[01:12] Wol Euler: Spanish and French assume everyone is a local, and a clever person
[01:12] Xirana Oximoxi: between a lot more:)
[01:12] Wol Euler: so no signs.
[01:12] Wol Euler: Germans assume everyone is an idiot and passing through for the first and only time, so lots of signs
[01:12] Xirana Oximoxi: yes...you're right...bad politics and plus it may be a cause of accidents too
[01:12] Wol Euler: Germans are more realistic :)

[01:13] Agatha Macbeth: Is Valencia part of Catalonia Xira?
[01:13] Xirana Oximoxi: no, it's another region of Spain
[01:13] Agatha Macbeth: Ah
[01:13] Agatha Macbeth: I noticed the football team has the same kind of flag
[01:13] Agatha Macbeth: Red and yellow stripes
[01:14] Xirana Oximoxi: we speak all Catalan/ Valencian...depending if you beleive politicies two different languages..if you beleive linguist same langue in its diversity...like all languges:)
[01:14] Agatha Macbeth nods
[01:14] Xirana Oximoxi: politiciens*
[01:16] Agatha Macbeth: I'd rather listen to linguists than politicians any day
[01:17] Wol Euler nods.
[01:18] Xirana Oximoxi: I was trying to explian a little about the history...but my brain is still sleeping and English is not working this morning:)) too complivcated:)
[01:19] Wol Euler: hehehehe
[01:19] Wol Euler: no worries, xir
[01:19] Xirana Oximoxi: :))
[01:19] Agatha Macbeth: Mm, know the feeling
[01:19] Xirana Oximoxi: :)

[01:20] Wol Euler: I'm wishing I could go back to bed, actually
[01:20] Agatha Macbeth: Working today?
[01:21] Wol Euler: yep
[01:21] Agatha Macbeth: Aww
[01:21] Wol Euler: well, we have to be finished Thursday night, so that we can print the plans and do the calculations on Friday
[01:21] Xirana Oximoxi: oh! then maybe we can put a comfortable bed here for you:)...
[01:22] Agatha Macbeth: Looks like a long week
[01:22] Wol Euler: :)
[01:22] Wol Euler: yep
[01:22] Xirana Oximoxi: :)

[01:22] Agatha Macbeth: Hope you don't miss Fox's dream thingy on tuesday
[01:22] Wol Euler: so do I
[01:23] Wol Euler: but it's possible that I will
[01:23] Agatha Macbeth sighs
[01:23] Wol Euler: and almost certain that I will miss your session on thursday
[01:23] Agatha Macbeth: Looks like just me again then
[01:23] Xirana Oximoxi: I have missed Maxine's sessions too :(( sadly...because they are sure so interesting
[01:24] Agatha Macbeth nods
[01:24] Xirana Oximoxi: dreams are a whole world to discover
[01:24] Agatha Macbeth: They make a refreshing diversion from usual PaB sessions
[01:24] Wol Euler nods.
[01:25] Xirana Oximoxi: yes:)
[01:25] Agatha Macbeth: You should have stopped in bed Wollie, i would have claimed it
[01:25] Agatha Macbeth: The session, not the bed
[01:25] Wol Euler: heheheh
[01:25] Xirana Oximoxi: :))

[01:26] Wol Euler: I had to be up in an hour anyway
[01:26] Wol Euler: but thanks
[01:26] Agatha Macbeth smiles
[01:26] Agatha Macbeth: No QT this morning?
[01:26] Wol Euler: not 10:35 yet
[01:26] Wol Euler: it's
[01:26] Agatha Macbeth: Ah
[01:26] Xirana Oximoxi: I'll have to go now...I wish you a nice day and a good rest when possible Wol :)
[01:26] Wol Euler: awww, thank you xir!
[01:27] Wol Euler: enjoy the day, and don*t get lost
[01:27] Agatha Macbeth: Take care Xira, paint well
[01:27] Xirana Oximoxi: See you soon! :-)
[01:27] Xirana Oximoxi: ty:)
[01:27] Agatha Macbeth: Hasta porno :p
[01:27] Xirana Oximoxi: haha :)
[01:27] Agatha Macbeth fans you
[01:27] Wol Euler: awwww
[01:28] Wol Euler: light a few candles to warm me instead, actulaly
[01:28] Agatha Macbeth: Just trin to keep you awake
[01:28] Wol Euler: oh, that
[01:28] Agatha Macbeth: Tryin*
[01:28] Agatha Macbeth: Warm here
[01:28] Wol Euler: lucky
[01:28] Agatha Macbeth: for 9.30
[01:29] Wol Euler: bloody cold here for June
[01:29] Agatha Macbeth: And you're further south too. Odd that
[01:29] Wol Euler nods.
[01:30] Agatha Macbeth: (more tea)
[01:31] Agatha Macbeth: Had to fill kettle again
[01:32] Wol Euler: enjoy
[01:32] Agatha Macbeth: I will when it gets here heh
[01:32] Wol Euler: heheh
[01:32] Agatha Macbeth: 7sm
[01:33] Wol Euler: there, y'see? 1:33
[01:33] Agatha Macbeth: Hello QT
[01:33] Wol Euler: buongiorno qt
[01:34] Qt Core: hi
[01:34] Agatha Macbeth: Are you well?
[01:35] Qt Core: almost, you Aga ? And you Wol ?
[01:35] Wol Euler: tired and sniffly, but fine
[01:35] Agatha Macbeth: I'm totally good :)
[01:36] Agatha Macbeth: Sniffly?
[01:36] Wol Euler: having sniffles
[01:36] Qt Core: oh well, sleepy and tired is part of the feeling well state for me ;-)
[01:36] Wol Euler: or doing
[01:36] Agatha Macbeth: I know what it means
[01:36] Wol Euler: heheheh
[01:36] Agatha Macbeth: >.<
[01:36] Wol Euler: then I'm not sure what you meant to say or ask
[01:36] Agatha Macbeth: Why are you snifly?
[01:37] Wol Euler: perhaps because it's so damned cold here, or maybe just hay fever
[01:37] Agatha Macbeth: Can you have hay fever when it's cold?
[01:37] Wol Euler: of course
[01:37] Agatha Macbeth: Oh
[01:37] Wol Euler: it#s caused by pollen not by temperature
[01:38] Agatha Macbeth: The temperature doesn't affect the air then?
[01:38] Wol Euler: well yes, clearly it does, but pollen drops and is blown about regardless of temperature
[01:38] Wol Euler: for certain values of "regardless"
[01:38] Qt Core: rain does, cold no, even if a few plants send out pollens while it is cold
[01:38] Agatha Macbeth: I would have thought it blows about more in warm air tho. Oh well
[01:39] Agatha Macbeth: I'll shut up
[01:39] Wol Euler: awwwwwwww
[01:39] Agatha Macbeth: Having an Aph moment
[01:40] Qt Core: i experienced something like being allergic on a couple subber where they rebuild a nearby square and there was a LOT of dust around, it was terrible
[01:40] Qt Core: *summer
[01:40] Wol Euler nods.
[01:40] Agatha Macbeth: Erk

[01:40] Agatha Macbeth: Dust is awful
[01:40] Agatha Macbeth: Gets everywhere
[01:40] Wol Euler: yep
[01:41] Qt Core: sometimes i think paper has some magnetic properties for dust, books seem to really attract it
[01:41] Wol Euler: ha, yes, this is true
[01:43] Agatha Macbeth: Hello Hana
[01:44] Wol Euler: where's she going? :)

[01:44] Wol Euler: hello hana
[01:44] Hana Furlough: Greeting, Ag, Wol and QT!
[01:44] Hana Furlough: it's a party!
[01:44] Agatha Macbeth: It is?
[01:46] Agatha Macbeth: buu
[01:46] Wol Euler: buu
[01:46] Hana Furlough: oh i just meant it was kind of crowded for the 1 a.m.
[01:47] Hana Furlough: or at least more people than when i'm usually here
[01:47] Hana Furlough: it's nice
[01:47] Agatha Macbeth: Yes, unusual to see 4 at this time
[01:47] Wol Euler nods.
[01:47] Qt Core: i always wonder about party being both the happy event and the political organizations.... ;-)
[01:47] Wol Euler: though sunday is the day most likely to be crowded
[01:47] Agatha Macbeth: Xira was here erarlier too
[01:47] Hana Furlough: haha, qt
[01:47] Agatha Macbeth: Yeh, sharp distibction
[01:47] Hana Furlough: ahh i see, i must be coming on the quiet day
[01:48] Hana Furlough: which is good too
[01:49] Qt Core: while in italian "partito" may means the "political organization" or "gone" or an old form for "divide" thatis the original meaning, division/faction
[01:49] Agatha Macbeth: Right
[01:49] Wol Euler: interesting point, qt
[01:49] Hana Furlough: yes
[01:50] Qt Core: in english there is partition too
[01:50] Wol Euler: I wonder whether the use of "party" to mean "fun times together" is an adaptation of the political meaning
[01:50] Agatha Macbeth: I doubt it :p
[01:50] Wol Euler: well, neither really makes sense, but words to change meaning
[01:50] Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
[01:51] Wol Euler: "nice" originally meant "picky, pedantic, annoying"
[01:51] Qt Core: some top political figures here in italy seems to have/had some fun time ;-)
[01:51] Agatha Macbeth: More so than the people it seems
[01:53] Agatha Macbeth: So is everyone ready for SSB?
[01:53] Agatha Macbeth: Or sunshine, whatever
[01:53] Hana Furlough: what is SSB?
[01:53] Wol Euler: I have the newest firestorm installed, if you mean that
[01:53] Qt Core: don't know, having a couple client upgrades trhown at me is enough ?
[01:53] Agatha Macbeth: Side server baking
[01:53] Wol Euler: Server Side Baking
[01:53] Wol Euler: snap
[01:54] Agatha Macbeth: Sort of
[01:54] Wol Euler: avatar appearance will be rendered by the servers not by your client viewer
[01:54] Wol Euler: which in theory will prevent grey or clouded avatars!
[01:54] Hana Furlough: oh ok
[01:54] Wol Euler: but which will break all previous viewer software
[01:54] Qt Core: now i really have to find a cloud avatar, then
[01:54] Agatha Macbeth: Stops the information needing to be sent twice as I understand it
[01:54] Wol Euler: everyone MUST upgrade their viewer before July 9
[01:55] Hana Furlough: have you all already upgraded?
[01:55] Wol Euler: mmhmm
[01:55] Agatha Macbeth: Yes I'm on FS 4.4.1
[01:55] Wol Euler: same
[01:55] Agatha Macbeth: I used Singularity for ages
[01:56] Qt Core: I just upgraded to SL 3.6.1

[01:57] Agatha Macbeth: I could never deal with the Linden viewer
[01:57] Agatha Macbeth: The seems just seems so cluttered
[01:57] Agatha Macbeth: And the profile thingy seems unreal
[01:58] Wol Euler: agreed, I found it visually awful and functionally annoying
[01:58] Qt Core: i have not many issues with them as i only have very basic needs
[01:58] Wol Euler: Firestorm has all the same features (more features actually) and looks better IMHO
[01:58] Qt Core: the profile viewer is one of them but only as sometimes it just don't work
[01:58] Qt Core: just...
[01:58] Agatha Macbeth: And can be made to look like V1 so you don't get lost
[02:00] Qt Core: from a programmer point of view "old school" users that don't ever want to change are a little annoying :-)
[02:01] Agatha Macbeth: At least LL have improved things from the original V2 where you had that ridiculous side bar on the right
[02:01] Qt Core: the great wars between "don't break it if it work" and "make it better" and "make it do more " and "keep it simple"
[02:02] Wol Euler nods to QT
[02:02] Agatha Macbeth likes things simple
[02:02] Wol Euler: change to improve performance is fine. Change because the programmer is bored wtih how it looks is not fine
[02:02] Qt Core: yes, the bar was awful,. i like the button and having the choice of placement
[02:02] Agatha Macbeth grins

[02:03] Wol Euler: my dears, I must go to work
[02:03] Agatha Macbeth: buu
[02:03] Agatha Macbeth: Aww

[02:03] Wol Euler: please stay and converse and have much fun
[02:03] Wol Euler: buu

[02:03] Agatha Macbeth: And I must go shopping
[02:03] Hana Furlough: i should get going as well
[02:03] Wol Euler: see you tonight, I hope
[02:03] Hana Furlough: nice chatting with you all!
[02:03] Wol Euler: take care, be happy and safe
[02:03] Qt Core: :-)
[02:03] Hana Furlough: you too, wol!
[02:03] Qt Core: and try to heve some fun too
[02:03] Agatha Macbeth: See you at Berti's Wol
[02:03] Agatha Macbeth: Bye folks
[02:04] Hana Furlough: bye all!