2011.08.18 07:00 - Acknowledging the problems

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Xirana Oximoxi. The comments are by Xirana Oximoxi.

     

    milakel Resident: hi :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey mila
    milakel Resident: yaku the lone gunman :)
    milakel Resident: are you in or out?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: not sure :)
    milakel Resident: hehe
    Yakuzza Lethecus: a tux is never out :)
    milakel Resident: fair enough :)
    milakel Resident: xir should be hosting this one
    milakel Resident: stormy is ill :(
    Yakuzza Lethecus: oh :(
    Yakuzza Lethecus: didn´t read it in the mailinglist
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi xirana!
    Xirana Oximoxi: hello Mila and Yaku!! :)
    milakel Resident: xiry :)
    milakel Resident: so nice of you to come to rescue
    Xirana Oximoxi: Storm is not feeling well... Mila do you claim the log today??? I read lately there have been a lot of problems:))
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes... Mila :)
    milakel Resident: no, you're the guardian :)
    milakel Resident: yes, read that too
    Xirana Oximoxi: hehe ok! let's see what happens:))
    milakel Resident: woly will fix that
    FcSeeker Resident: hello all
    Yakuzza Lethecus waves to seeker
    milakel Resident: fc :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: hello Fc:)
    milakel Resident: wester :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi wester
    Xirana Oximoxi: hi Wester:)
    milakel Resident: btw, wester, cute pics you got on flickr :)
    --BELL--
    Xirana Oximoxi: how are you Yaku? haven't you missed us?? :)
    milakel Resident: that cooking for kids book is a good idea
    Wester Kiranov: hi all
    Wester Kiranov: thanks mila
    FcSeeker Resident: he Wester and Bleu
    Xirana Oximoxi: hi Wester:)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: of course :), i am fine but my vacation could have been longer
    milakel Resident: bleu :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: hi Bleu:)
    Bleu Oleander: hi everyone
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey bleu
    milakel Resident: you're just back from sweden, yaku?
    Bleu Oleander: hey Yaku ... welcome back
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes! holidays always seem short:)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i am back from sweden for more then a week, but had vacation till last week
    milakel Resident: ah, nice
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it was really nice
    FcSeeker Resident: <3
    Yakuzza Lethecus: also seen some old gravehills
    Yakuzza Lethecus: around vasteras as well as upsalla
    milakel Resident: xir, and some keep doing their job as a hobby even on holidays :)
    FcSeeker Resident: Hello Samu
    milakel Resident: yaku, pics please :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey sam
    milakel Resident: sam :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes Mila... some that can work on what they like the most do:))
    milakel Resident: what a turnout today! :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: hello Samuo:)
    Xirana Oximoxi: a lot of people today!!!
    Bleu Oleander: best wishes to Storm that he feels better!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes!
    Wester Kiranov: second that
    oO0Oo Resident: hi Fc.. Wester.. Xirana.. Yaku.. Bleu.. Mila Nice to see you all.
    Xirana Oximoxi: oh! thanks for telling us Bleu
    Bleu Oleander: hi Samuo
    milakel Resident: xir, no one wanted to miss your session :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: lol hehe yes..I'm sure that's it:))
    Bleu Oleander: :))
    Xirana Oximoxi: we can look for a topic ....:)
    Xirana Oximoxi: or let it appear suddenly...
    Xirana Oximoxi: I've been wondering i more traditional paintings can lso iduce people to do a reflection about the fact of creating and Art in more philosophical way
    Xirana Oximoxi: if more traditional pictures
    Xirana Oximoxi: can also induce
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: sorry so much misstyping
    Bleu Oleander: say more Xirana
    milakel Resident: xir, i think modernists are more thought-provoking :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: well..usually, when we see a landscape picture we only say, I like it, or no, and when we see more symbolic works we must do another kind of reflection about what we see
    Bleu Oleander: I think any art can potentially be thought-provoking ... depends on the viewers involvement with the work
    Xirana Oximoxi: I've been thinking about it because of the work of Magritte, 'Ceci n'est pas une pipe' :)) moment I give the link
    Bleu Oleander: art is a bridge between the creator and the viewer
    Bleu Oleander: yes, I love Magritte's work
    Xirana Oximoxi: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AhQswN5NRB...s+una+pipa.jpg
    FcSeeker Resident: takes a humble bow
    milakel Resident: xir, ah, so you do mean modernists when you say traditional painting?
    FcSeeker Resident: have splended time
    FcSeeker Resident: namaste
    milakel Resident: panda-san :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye panda
    oO0Oo Resident: namaste Fc
    milakel Resident: this is a good looking pipe :)
    --BELL--
    oO0Oo Resident: please excuse me... hope to be back
    Xirana Oximoxi: it's only a painting... a pipe is an object you use to smoke...:))
    milakel Resident: :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: I hope so Samuo:)
    Xirana Oximoxi: Mila I meant more realistic paintings... not only modernist
    Xirana Oximoxi: I think FC was bored:))
    milakel Resident: or he had an important meeting to attend
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes:)
    milakel Resident: but we of course assume the worst in our defensive practice :)
    Wester Kiranov: i'm off - i was just checking if xir needed any help, and rl is really quite busy :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye wester
    Bleu Oleander: bye Wester
    Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye Wester, thank you very much
    Xirana Oximoxi: Mila ..he was bowing:)) but you are right, sometimes we tend to assume the worst ..but not sure if in a defensive way:)
    milakel Resident: usually, it is. it may not be obvious to us.
    Xirana Oximoxi: and now I show you why I can not be a good guardian ... I've thougt 'to bow' meant 'to yawn'.... and it's not it at all
    milakel Resident: my assumption is that you're the host and when someone leaves it makes you a bit uncomfy as to why? and you may feel responsible and think it's somehow related to you
    Xirana Oximoxi: when we talk about this subject of beeing a guardian and taking care if there is a problem, I always think my English is one
    milakel Resident: heh, no - bow is a sign of respect :)
    Bleu Oleander: I never feel that way as a host Mila
    Xirana Oximoxi: exactly!!! what a big missunderstaning!
    Dash Earthboy: hey y'all
    milakel Resident: dash :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: welcome dash :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: hello Dash:)
    milakel Resident: did you get any replies?
    Dash Earthboy: been having connection problems all morning
    Bleu Oleander: that said, I need to go .... IM me if you need help with the log Xirana ... happy to help
    Bleu Oleander: take care all
    Xirana Oximoxi: bye Bleu:) ty :)
    milakel Resident: bleu :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye bleu
    Dash Earthboy: can only stay a few minutes even if not knocked off
    Dash Earthboy: bye Bleu
    Dash Earthboy: Mila, no responses yet :(
    milakel Resident: *takes this chance and pats dash on his back*
    milakel Resident: oh well, at least the message is out there
    Dash Earthboy: will leave in a few for first interview appt in Ft. Collins
    Dash Earthboy: yes, and thanks for getting it out there Mila
    --BELL--
    Dash Earthboy: connection problems have screwed up emailing resumes/attachments
    Dash Earthboy: and online applications this morning
    milakel Resident: eh
    milakel Resident: it's good you have it at all though
    Xirana Oximoxi: I see PaB as a very special place where one can meet with people and know all different kind of situations and thoughts... I always learn coming here, ..do you have the same feeling?
    Dash Earthboy: it still amazes me how if I acknowledge someone has committed a crime against me, let alone passive-aggressive abuse like not providing what I've paid for as agreed, is still met with comments like "that happens to everyone everywhere" or simply "be grateful and don't complain" or words to that effect
    milakel Resident: i feel so about life in general, xir :)
    Dash Earthboy: hey Lugh
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey lugh
    Lugh Fehr: heyya people :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: hello Lugh !
    Yakuzza Lethecus: did you watch ,,game of thrones" lugh ? i was amazed when i recognized 1-2 places on malta
    Dash Earthboy: temps here are supposed to reach 100 today so I'll take care of business in Ft. Collins this morning and scurry back to motel this afternoon
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes Mila, but here even if it is called SL, you get more close to individual situations that come from different countries and cultures
    Lugh Fehr: nope i havent seen that one yaku
    Dash Earthboy: yes Xir
    Dash Earthboy: hey Susan
    Xirana Oximoxi: hello Susan:)
    iwandertoo Resident: waves
    Xirana Oximoxi: waves:)
    Lugh Fehr: hey susan
    iwandertoo Resident: :)
    milakel Resident: dash, i think those comments are meant to make a person feel better. i sure can see how it fails to do so at times.
    milakel Resident: lugh, sysie :)
    milakel Resident: susie :)
    Dash Earthboy: yes Mila
    Dash Earthboy: the road to my hell is paved with Good Intentions :\
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i often thing about politeness and actual helpfullness, nice words are just expected in a modern world but at which point are those actually meaningful :/
    Dash Earthboy: right Yaku
    Lugh Fehr: nods
    Xirana Oximoxi: ok, I also agree Yaku, but it helps make the situations better... you can also say nothing or even 'bad' comments
    Dash Earthboy: think about "You Oughta Know" by A. Morisette, "don't deny me my pain" as if it doesn't matter
    Xirana Oximoxi: to be polite is a good way to approach
    Dash Earthboy: yes, and acknowledging the problems is typically better than "oh well, we all have problems"
    Lugh Fehr: who feels it knows it
    Dash Earthboy: yes Lugh
    milakel Resident: yes, dash
    --BELL--
    milakel Resident: i think a more viable action would be: 1. acknowledge the problem 2. ask how i can help
    Dash Earthboy: for sure Mila
    Dash Earthboy: that's the way I usually respond too
    Dash Earthboy: dang, got phone calls coming in right as I need to be leaving...timing huh?...good to see y'all this morning :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: to acknowledge the problem may also help to give other points of view to it , the person who is living it maybe is not able to see at this moment
    milakel Resident: good luck, dash!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: good luck dash!
    milakel Resident: also, i suggest you start a blog
    Lugh Fehr: bye xira
    Xirana Oximoxi: bye Dash, good luck with your interview
    iwandertoo Resident: waves
    Lugh Fehr: bye dash*
    Xirana Oximoxi: Lugh lovely Elephant:)
    Lugh Fehr: tnx :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: or similar:)..is it an elephant?
    Lugh Fehr: imnot sure i havny loged on in months its the first av i saw mabey robot eliphant or somthing i forgot i had it ;)
    Xirana Oximoxi: how is it to be an animal as avatar...do you feel people treat you differently ?
    Xirana Oximoxi: :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: it's nice:)
    Lugh Fehr: hehe
    Xirana Oximoxi: :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: hello ContreCourant:)
    ContreCourant Resident: Hello. Nice to be back
    Xirana Oximoxi: have you been on holidays?
    ContreCourant Resident: yes
    Lugh Fehr: hello contre]
    Xirana Oximoxi: ah! great:)..and have you found it short time?
    ContreCourant Resident: Hello Lugh.
    Xirana Oximoxi: silly question:))
    ContreCourant Resident: not long enough thanks
    ContreCourant Resident: Lugh - I can't figure out what you are
    Lugh Fehr: hehe we cant ither
    ContreCourant Resident: sort of a spider
    ContreCourant Resident: from mars
    Lugh Fehr: hehe ;P
    ContreCourant Resident: but with only 2 lombs
    ContreCourant Resident: limbs
    milakel Resident: my god, lugh! what is it? :)
    ContreCourant Resident: with a drum set
    Xirana Oximoxi: the red nose remembers me boxy's nose...I miss to touch it:))
    Lugh Fehr: what hppened to boxy?
    Xirana Oximoxi: maybe long holiday:)) I think he is ok:)
    milakel Resident: *pokes lugh* he's among us :)
    milakel Resident: xir, right :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: *smiles*
    Xirana Oximoxi: :)
    Lugh Fehr: oh heheh
    milakel Resident: i'd like to share that... whenever i see xir, i think of penélope cruz :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: hehehe you like her as actress?
    milakel Resident: yep, she's lovingly sexy :)
    --BELL--
    Xirana Oximoxi: I prefer to think of Javier Bardem :))
    milakel Resident: haha
    milakel Resident: and they are a good pair
    Xirana Oximoxi: agree:)
    Lugh Fehr: brb i have to do somthing inportant
    Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye Lugh, I will be going now.... nice day to all and see you soon:)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: cya soon xirana!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ups
    Yakuzza Lethecus: lugh said that#
    iwandertoo Resident: waves
    milakel Resident: thank you, xiry :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes... but I also go :)
    ContreCourant Resident: Bye everyone
    milakel Resident: does the log work?
    Xirana Oximoxi: yw:)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: *giggles in the silence* cya soon lugh :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: Mila... how can I know?
    milakel Resident: did you get the link wit hthe chatlog?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye everyone
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes, I did but closed it..shoudn't I?
    milakel Resident: well, then it works fine i guess :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: usually I received it in my email
    Xirana Oximoxi: aha ok:)
    milakel Resident: yes
    milakel Resident: ok, see you :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: if not I will aks for help:)
    Xirana Oximoxi: bye bye
    milakel Resident: bye folks
    ContreCourant Resident: Guess I'll go too then. Bye

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