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    The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.

     

    Wol Euler: hello aggers
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Wollers :)
    Wol Euler: I shall be drifting in and out, doing packing type thigns
    Agatha Macbeth: Is the suitcase all bulging?
    Wol Euler: not yet, but close
    Wol Euler: I actually started last night!
    Agatha Macbeth: Hope you made a check list, so as not to forget anything
    Wol Euler: sort of :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hmmm
    Agatha Macbeth looks suspiciously at you
    Wol Euler looks back innocently.
    Agatha Macbeth: (love the hair btw)
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: thank you
    Agatha Macbeth: Tho I think I've seen it before :)
    Wol Euler: once or twice, perhpas
    Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
      --BELL--1315
    Agatha Macbeth: Where's the outfit from?
    Wol Euler: Graves
    Wol Euler: fairly new
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, thought as much
    Wol Euler: the patterned transparent latex is something of a brand identity
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, totally
    Agatha Macbeth: The boots too I think?
    Wol Euler: mmhmm :)
    Agatha Macbeth smiles

    Wol passes me a pic
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    Agatha Macbeth: ty :)
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: that was the best of them
    Wol Euler: so hard to get good photos of people dancing
    Wol Euler: especially when all facing in different diretions
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww, can't see Boxy
    Wol Euler: he was too far away, couldn't get him in and have a reasonable people size
    Agatha Macbeth: But I have some good pics of us, plus the cake....will put them on Flickr
    Wol Euler: good idea
    Wol Euler: hello zen
    Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Zenny
    Zen Arado: I hope there is room for me to sit down :-)
    Wol Euler: of course
    Zen Arado: Hi :)
    Agatha Macbeth: You may need the outer circle ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: So how's life Zen?
    Zen Arado: waves his union Jack
    Agatha Macbeth: I don't see it :p
    Wol Euler grins.
    Agatha Macbeth: ty Wol [again]
    Zen Arado: ty Wol
    Wol Euler: yw
    Zen Arado: don't tell me I have to make one
    Wol Euler: nah :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    Agatha Macbeth: Looks that way
    Agatha Macbeth: Should be fairly easy I would think
    Agatha Macbeth: In theory a flag should be one of the easiest things to make in SL
    Zen Arado: yes I guess
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe even I could do it :p
    Zen Arado: just upload a pic and stick it on a prim
    Agatha Macbeth: ty x 3
    Wol Euler: make it a flexy prim that responds to sim wind, and bob's your near paternal relative
    Agatha Macbeth: Wol is sending me lots of birthday pics :)
    Wol Euler: zen got one, sadly the only shot in which one can see his face and yours :)
    Wol Euler: so hard to get a group of people all facing the same way :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww
    Zen Arado: yes they keep turning around
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, unless we synch dance
    Wol Euler nods.
    Wol Euler: need to sync standing direction too, we were synced just facing different ways
    Zen Arado: yes that's true
    Agatha Macbeth: We manage it at Fracture ok
    Wol Euler: and I didn't want to spoil the mood by giving people directions
    Zen Arado: we weren't meticulous enough
    Wol Euler: sure, there's a natural focus there, everyone faces the DJ stand and the announcer text board
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, of course
    Zen Arado: it's because this place is circular
    Wol Euler: yep
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Zen Arado: we should stick a board over the fountain
      --BELL--1330
    Zen Arado: I was just watching some older movies of the Royal family
    Zen Arado: quite touching
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh poor you ;-)
    Zen Arado: I'm not exactly a royalist
    Agatha Macbeth: The queen mom was nice I must admit
    Zen Arado: this is the big weekend
    Zen Arado: 60 years on the throne
    Agatha Macbeth: I think I'll miss it somehow
    Zen Arado: don't you get a day off on Monday?
    Agatha Macbeth: Doesn't seem five minutes since the last jubilee
    Wol Euler: wow
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, but that's different!
    Wol Euler: I wonder whether she gets the day off?
    Zen Arado: that's nothing, I remember the coronation
    Agatha Macbeth: The queen?
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Agatha Macbeth: OMG
    Wol Euler: well? she is an employee of a state organization
    Agatha Macbeth: Which one?
    Wol Euler: the Crown, of course
    Agatha Macbeth: Never thought of it like that
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Zen Arado: she has to work hard
    Wol Euler nods.
    Zen Arado: I think she's going to float down the Thames on a barge
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, I wouldn't want the job
    Wol Euler: true
    Wol Euler: (not wanting the job)
    Zen Arado: she has provided continuity
    Wol Euler: and she seems the least appalling of the bunch :)
    Zen Arado: perhaps she brings a lot of intangible benefits we don't really acknowledge
    Agatha Macbeth: Apalling or appealing?
    Wol Euler: down to the grandkids, perhaps, don't know enough about them
    Wol Euler: no E
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Zen Arado: I'm more against the institution than the people
    Agatha Macbeth: Me too
    Zen Arado: the principal of them being entitled to so much
    Wol Euler nods.
    Zen Arado: just by inheritance
    Zen Arado: that should be principle
    Wol Euler: I'm curious how you got your speech typer to make that distinction, zen :)
    Agatha Macbeth smiles
    Zen Arado: I didn't, I had to correct it :-)
    Wol Euler: ah :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Aha
    Agatha Macbeth: Cheat Zenny :)
    Wol Euler: that would be very exciting, and useful, if it could recognize when you were talking to it (to correct a mistake) and when you were talking through it to us (for it to type)
    Wol Euler: another two or three software generations will have that down, probably
    Zen Arado: it should recognise the right word from the context
    Agatha Macbeth: Is that technically possible?
    Wol Euler: not yet
    Zen Arado: but it doesn't always do that
    Wol Euler: but surely not impossible
    Wol Euler nods.
    Agatha Macbeth: Get Alf on it!
    Wol Euler: it might have done better had "principle" not been the second word in the sentence
    Zen Arado: oh you just select a word and corrected
    Zen Arado: correct it
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Zen Arado: but that takes time
    Agatha Macbeth: Interesting that you still do the typing anim...
    Zen Arado: every time you do it learns
    Wol Euler nods.
    Zen Arado: so it becomes more accurate over time
    Zen Arado: it remembers the corrections
    Wol Euler nods.
    Wol Euler: it would not surprise me at all if AI were to arise out of systtems like this
    Zen Arado: I'll have to go, I have an invite to a dance
    Wol Euler: enjoy!
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww
    Wol Euler: bye zen, enjoy the weekend
    Zen Arado: thank you byee
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye, dance well
    Wol Euler: and have a great week! I'll be on relatively seldom next week
    Agatha Macbeth: :(
    Wol Euler: family being what it is
    Agatha Macbeth: Family comes first
    Wol Euler nods.
    Wol Euler: and I owe myself some sleep too
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeh, cash the cheque
    Wol Euler: and I want to try to read at least one of ... what's his name?
    Wol Euler: "and quiet flows the Don"
    Wol Euler: that guy
    Agatha Macbeth: Fred Scrott?
    Wol Euler: trilogy of russian novels
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Agatha Macbeth: Dostoyevsky
    Wol Euler: was that Turgenev?
    Wol Euler: not D, no
    Wol Euler: I know that
    Agatha Macbeth: Gurdjieff?
    Wol Euler thwaps you gently with a pillow
    Agatha Macbeth: Ouspensky?
    Agatha Macbeth: Trotsky?
    Agatha Macbeth: Chekov?
    Wol Euler: Sholokov
    Agatha Macbeth: 'Fire all phasers captain'
    Wol Euler: *Sholokhov
    Agatha Macbeth: Aha
      --BELL--1345
    Wol Euler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_Quiet_Flows_the_Don
    Wol Euler: it's the first of a trilogy
    Wol Euler: and when we were kids, they were on the bookshelf downstairs. Have to see if it#s still there
    Agatha Macbeth: How many altogether then :p
    Wol Euler: heheh
    Wol Euler: not D. Adams.
    Agatha Macbeth: Dawn?
    Wol Euler: Douglas
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Wol Euler: famous for writing a trilogy in four parts
    Agatha Macbeth: Watership Down?
    Wol Euler: I thought you were referring to that
    Agatha Macbeth: Right
    Wol Euler: H2G2
    Agatha Macbeth: Hmm
    Wol Euler: heheh
    Wol Euler: Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy
    Agatha Macbeth: No that was Richard Adams, what am I thinking?
    Wol Euler: indeed
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes
    Wol Euler: but they did look alike.
    Agatha Macbeth: Only one is still alive
    Wol Euler: in the way of Sonny Rollins and Henry Rollins :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Y-e-e-s
    Wol Euler giggles.
    Alfred Kelberry: you again
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Alfie!
    Alfred Kelberry: purr
    Wol Euler: wonders never cease, a purring dogbox
    Alfred Kelberry: right
    Agatha Macbeth waits for the barking cat version
    Alfred Kelberry: so, shall we continue with flexing load?
    Agatha Macbeth: Eh?
    Wol Euler: nah, we finished that story
    Alfred Kelberry: *points to woly*
    Alfred Kelberry: hmm
    Agatha Macbeth: It's rude to pont ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Or point even
    Wol Euler: unless over a river in France
    Alfred Kelberry: not if done with a cute paw
    Agatha Macbeth: Right
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh ok, you're forgiven
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Zon
    Alfred Kelberry: um... tell us something we don't know about construction, woly?
    Wol Euler: you'd be seriuosly uneasy if you knew how much of it was done with glue
    Agatha Macbeth: Ha
    Wol Euler: instead of rivets or whatever
    Agatha Macbeth: Looking at my house I can believe it
    Wol Euler: we call it "chemical fixative" or even "silicone" but it's just glue
    Alfred Kelberry: hmm, some super glue, i imagine?
    Wol Euler: nope
    Wol Euler: hello zon
    Alfred Kelberry: well, at least bearing walls are not glued together, i hope :)
    Alfred Kelberry: zon :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hopefully not the foundations either...
    Alfred Kelberry: some houses in the u.s. might though
    Alfred Kelberry: a lot of them look rather... flaky
    Agatha Macbeth: Wonder what the Japanese use for their paper houses?
    Alfred Kelberry: bamboo?
    Agatha Macbeth: Bamboo glue?
    Alfred Kelberry: um
    Alfred Kelberry: *looks at woly*
    Wol Euler is not Japanese
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Guess it would be better to ask somebody from Japan
    Agatha Macbeth: Snap
    Alfred Kelberry: no
    Alfred Kelberry: woly must know
    Alfred Kelberry: she's smart
    Wol Euler: hehehe
    Agatha Macbeth: and cute
    Alfred Kelberry: that too
    Wol Euler blushes.
    Wol Euler is off to resume full-time packing at the bell
    Alfred Kelberry: ha
    Agatha Macbeth: What time's the flight?
    Alfred Kelberry: 90 sec packing
    Wol Euler: 8:45
    Wol Euler: so I have to leave the house at 6:00
    Agatha Macbeth: Right
    Agatha Macbeth: What time will it be when you get there?
    Wol Euler: so if I can get totally packed in an hour, I can have five hours sleep
    Wol Euler: 3pm
    Wol Euler: local time
    Agatha Macbeth nods
      --BELL--1400
    Wol Euler: which is pretty good, four hours to talk and then collapse into bed not too far from local sleepytime
    Alfred Kelberry: yep, works well
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow, they go to bed early
    Alfred Kelberry: say hi to lufthansa from me
    Wol Euler: will do
    Wol Euler: goodnight, my dears, speak to you again at some uncertain future time
    Agatha Macbeth: Shall I take the log?
    Wol Euler: enjoy the weekend, be happy and healthy
    Wol Euler: please do, actually
    Agatha Macbeth: Right
    Wol Euler: I won't have time to write it up
    Wol Euler: ty
    Wol Euler: ♥
    Agatha Macbeth: ♥
    Wol Euler: goodnight!
    Alfred Kelberry: imagine an announcement in the airport: "miss woly, please, proceed to the business class lounge"
    Agatha Macbeth: Have a good flight babe
    Wol Euler: ty :)
    Alfred Kelberry: yep, fly well and classy
    Alfred Kelberry: she's got nice butt
    Agatha Macbeth: She undoubtedly will
    Alfred Kelberry: so...
    Alfred Kelberry: where was i?
    Agatha Macbeth: In the fountain
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, right
    Agatha Macbeth: and still are ;)
    Alfred Kelberry: that is correct
    Agatha Macbeth: How come your cardboard doesn't get soggy?
    Alfred Kelberry: robopup
    Alfred Kelberry: water resistant
    Agatha Macbeth: They think of everything these days
    Alfred Kelberry: let's wait for Storm
    Agatha Macbeth: To do what?
    Alfred Kelberry: he will tell some stories
    Agatha Macbeth: Stormanory
    Alfred Kelberry: i see him ignoring this very high profile meeting
    Agatha Macbeth: Well, who'd have thought?
    Alfred Kelberry: wait, i'll page him
    Agatha Macbeth: He's probably building a lamasery or something
    Alfred Kelberry: maybe he's lost
    Agatha Macbeth: Lost what?
    Agatha Macbeth: Horizon?
    Agatha Macbeth: Actually I think I'll be off too
    Agatha Macbeth: Try turning up at the beginning of meetings for a change Alf ;-)
    Alfred Kelberry: you be good :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Das vidaniya :)
    Alfred Kelberry: da tovarisch :)

    I poof and, true to form, Korel and Storm arrive
    Alfred Kelberry: kori girl!
    Alfred Kelberry: hi :) missed you
    Korel Laloix: Heya
    Korel Laloix: Guess I missed it.
    Korel Laloix: Heya Storm.
    Storm Nordwind: Hi guys. busy busy at home
    Alfred Kelberry: storm! you missed the enigmatic aga
    Alfred Kelberry: she just left
    Korel Laloix: Good busy or bad busy?
    Storm Nordwind: Not staying long
    Storm Nordwind: All good
    Korel Laloix: Great...
    Korel Laloix: Hope not to be on long either.
    Korel Laloix: Boss is almost ready to leave.
    Storm Nordwind: And how particularly was Aga enigmatic today?
    Alfred Kelberry: as usual
    Alfred Kelberry: witty mysterious remarks
    Storm Nordwind: Waiting for you guys to add an exhibit to the upper floor of the Dome.
    Korel Laloix: Not had the chance to do that yet.
    Korel Laloix: But might this weekend.
    Korel Laloix: Not a lot to do.
    Alfred Kelberry: gah, motion scripting takes time
    Storm Nordwind: Great. meeting at Sunday noon
    Alfred Kelberry: *boops kori's nose*
    Storm Nordwind: motion scripting is easy for experts like you
    Alfred Kelberry: muahaha
    Alfred Kelberry: not funny
    Korel Laloix: I will not be doing anything complicated.
    Storm Nordwind: None of the scripting in mine is complicated
      --BELL--1415
    Korel Laloix: I do like complicated in some ways though.
    Korel Laloix: More with people though.
    Alfred Kelberry: that's another project, kori :)
    Korel Laloix: I hope so...
    Korel Laloix: Have a date tommorow night.... smiles
    Alfred Kelberry: i think storm is busy cooking
    Storm Nordwind: Is there a difference, do you think, between complex and complicated. Either in code or in people?
    Alfred Kelberry: kori, have great sex!
    Korel Laloix: Big difference I think.
    Korel Laloix: At least in people.
    Storm Nordwind smacks boxy hard
    Korel Laloix: Thanks.. but no... I really don't do that....or try not to do that... especially on the first date...lol
    Alfred Kelberry: storm doesn't like when people enjoy good sex :)
    Storm Nordwind: He doesn't???!!
    Alfred Kelberry: or was it a random smack? :)
    Korel Laloix: I really dont do good sex... I do mindblowing outstanding sureal borderline illegal sex.
    Alfred Kelberry: good question, btw. re: complex.
    Korel Laloix: Complex just mean a lot of components.
    Storm Nordwind: Yes. I see it as that
    Korel Laloix: Complicated means a lot of overlapping and intermingled aspects.
    Korel Laloix: Comiplicated is much more interesting.
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Storm Nordwind: Complex to me can be a lot of interrelationships between different parts, the more interrelationships the more complex.
    Korel Laloix: And I find, that complex people tend to be arrogant.... compicated people tend to be engaging.
    Korel Laloix: Probably a matter of definitions.
    Alfred Kelberry: and perspective
    Storm Nordwind: Complicated is often lack of straightforwardness within a syste.
    Korel Laloix: And that I like.
    Storm Nordwind: By my definition I find complexity interesting and complication just a problem!
    Korel Laloix smiles
    Korel Laloix: Bymine, I find complexity boring and complication interesting.
    Korel Laloix: I wonder how different our thoughts are.... and how poorly our use of words captures our meanings.
    Storm Nordwind smiles
    Korel Laloix: Maybe we mean the same thing.
    Storm Nordwind: yes perhaps! We can cogitate complexity and complication elsewhen on our calendar. Ciao!
    Korel Laloix: But I do have to say, that just becuase someone is complicated, I dont equate that with problems.
    Korel Laloix: ciao bello
    Storm Nordwind waves
    Korel Laloix: Almost time to go home...
    Alfred Kelberry: yes... right now!
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Korel Laloix: Going to go for a nice long but slow run this evening.
    Alfred Kelberry: run well
    Alfred Kelberry: i'll go for a nice slow meal
    Korel Laloix: Getting back into it is always difficult though.
    Korel Laloix: But lovely when I am back.
    Alfred Kelberry: so long!
    Korel Laloix: CIao

    Hmm....looks like I left too soon :(

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