The Guardian for this meeting was Sylectra Darwin. The comments are by Sylectra Darwin.
FcSeeker Resident: hi Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Hi FcSeeker, singquanon, zaldaan :)
Eliza Madrigal: I came to clean up the scenery I left here earlier but forgot how pleasant it feels so think to linger :)
sinequanon Sahara: Hi Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Have you happened upon the night's topic yet?
FcSeeker Resident: hi Sam
sinequanon Sahara: what scenery was that Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Hi oO0Oo! :D
Eliza Madrigal: Oh... the little lanterns and cherry trees
Eliza Madrigal: they were planted and floated earlier
sinequanon Sahara: ahaan
sinequanon Sahara: Sam
Eliza Madrigal: :) not late
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Stevie :)
FcSeeker Resident: Hello steve
stevenaia Michinaga: hello Eliza, Fc, Sine, Samud, Zaldaan
oO0Oo Resident waves and smiles at Stevenaia
sinequanon Sahara: you can out smart the early bird by being late
stevenaia Michinaga: been missing you , Samúð it's been while
sinequanon Sahara: Stevenaia
oO0Oo Resident: missed you too Stevenaia.. luckily you all dress up the logs into beautiful gowns of various display
Eliza Madrigal grins
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
FcSeeker Resident: hi Sylectra
stevenaia Michinaga: waves to Sylectra
Sylectra Darwin: Hi guys!
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Sylectra
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sylectra... hope you don't mind the clutter from an earlier session (of trees and lanterns, etc)
Sylectra Darwin: looks nice
Eliza Madrigal: :)
oO0Oo Resident nods
Sylectra Darwin: so what was done with the trees?
oO0Oo Resident: the watered my eyes for one
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, nothing really... just playing 'pavilion as stage'
Sylectra Darwin: perfect
Eliza Madrigal: :) oO0Oo
oO0Oo Resident feels grass between toes
Sylectra Darwin: i would also like a field of poppies all round us.
Eliza Madrigal: lovely idea
stevenaia Michinaga: you have any?, I'm just packing butterflies
Eliza Madrigal: :::digs through inventory but finds no poppies:::
Sylectra Darwin: me neither, though I have seen some that were really nice
--BELL--
stevenaia Michinaga: was more like a butterfly blizzard
sinequanon Sahara: starwberries cherries and an angels kiss in spring....
Eliza Madrigal: that's lovely sine, is it a quote?
sinequanon Sahara: a song...
sinequanon Sahara: summer wine...
sinequanon Sahara: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAYYvoa6a6Q
Eliza Madrigal: :)) listening... silver spurs and lets pass the time
sinequanon Sahara: its a good transaction...wine for silver spurs...a very honest deal :)
oO0Oo Resident: @Sylectra: http://www.infobarrel.com/media/image/32214.jpg
Sylectra Darwin: very pretty!
oO0Oo Resident: :)
FcSeeker Resident: hi observerm
Eliza Madrigal waves to observerm
Sylectra Darwin: Hey Observerm, nice to see ya
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Obs :)
sinequanon Sahara: the poppy flower has a dark patch in the middle...in urdu literature ...the poppy signifies the eternally wounded or aggrieved lover
Sylectra Darwin: This was supposed to be a jar of fireflies but they seem to have escaped!
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Eos
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eos :)
sinequanon Sahara: Eos
Sylectra Darwin: oh wow
FcSeeker Resident: hi Eos
Sylectra Darwin: Hi Eos :)
Eliza Madrigal: nearly captivated fireflies
oO0Oo Resident: _/\_ Eos
Eos Amaterasu: greetings all!
Sylectra Darwin: haha!
Eliza Madrigal wonders how te flower earned such dire symbolism
Sylectra Darwin: wow
Eliza Madrigal: hmmm
Eliza Madrigal: :D
Sylectra Darwin: a forest of coneflowers
sinequanon Sahara: the poppy shows its wound to every rose bud in the garden...knowing by doing so it would be counted among the love burnt
Sylectra Darwin: Eliza, you in there?
Eliza Madrigal: observing ;-)
Eliza Madrigal: ah! nice ones....
oO0Oo Resident: blooming wonderful
Sylectra Darwin: Let's see, those were leucanthus and daisies
sinequanon Sahara: urdu poetry is obsessed with wounds...or stains of love
Eos Amaterasu: love wounds
Eos Amaterasu: get thru the defenses
sinequanon Sahara: another verse goes..give me such a stain of love that would shame the moon
Eliza Madrigal likes for the moon to show its face brightly and unabashed
Sylectra Darwin: yes
sinequanon Sahara: yet its face has scars and dark patches all over...
sinequanon Sahara: the mons
sinequanon Sahara: oh no the mares
sinequanon Sahara: the ancients thought they were oceans
Eos Amaterasu: into the 90 secs via such a stain of love as would shame the moon
oO0Oo Resident: like the dings and dents in Ed Brown's Teapots...
Sylectra Darwin: nice jade
--BELL--
FcSeeker Resident: Hello Paradise
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Paradise :)
Sylectra Darwin: Greetings friend :)
oO0Oo Resident waves and smiles at Paradise
sinequanon Sahara: this obsession almost borders to the extent of masochism...
sinequanon Sahara: Paradise
Paradise Tennant: wow so many people
Eos Amaterasu greets the peacock of the east
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Eos Amaterasu: being is raining wonderful avatars
Paradise Tennant: hiya eos .sine O , elliza .. stev .. fc .. zaldaan observerm :) nice to see everyone :)
Eliza Madrigal: warm august night beneath a lovely dinged and dented moon, just before meteor shower time ... :)
Eos Amaterasu: sky rockets in flight, evening delight :-)
FcSeeker Resident: and the coming comet
sinequanon Sahara: ill translate a couplet from Ghalib...very difficult to translate by the way....he is the shakespeare of urdu poetry...
Eliza Madrigal: thanks sinequanon... listens....
sinequanon Sahara: some one ask my heart if it had been felt the anguish would your half pulled arrow had shot through it
sinequanon Sahara: -been....soryy
FcSeeker Resident: Hello Calvino
oO0Oo Resident: @FC.. showers of asteroids.. hold the gate to the stars
sinequanon Sahara: so the arrow is still sticking there
Paradise Tennant: smiles hiya cal :)
oO0Oo Resident: _/\_ Calvino
sinequanon Sahara: Calvino
Eos Amaterasu: hi cal
stevenaia Michinaga: Hi cal, still a few cushions left
Calvino Rabeni: _/!\_
Sylectra Darwin: Hi Cal
Eos Amaterasu observes the arrow still sticking
Sylectra Darwin: brb...excuse me a moment
Calvino Rabeni: Good day everyone :)
oO0Oo Resident smiles
Eliza Madrigal: half pulled arrow... excruciating, yes
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Cal :)
Eos Amaterasu: sounds like a lifetime
Paradise Tennant: hands sine an aspirin :) and wire cutters :)
stevenaia Michinaga: easier than pulling the kite string through Sylectra
sinequanon Sahara: and then he says...we do not approveof running in the veins...if it did not drip through the eyes...then what is blood
Eliza Madrigal: is it only love if torturous, in these writings? :)
Calvino Rabeni: Would you call the pain, that comes with a good experience, a reluctance to that experience, or more accurately, a re-learning about the nature of experience?
sinequanon Sahara: yes its all about love
Paradise Tennant: the nature of impermance :)
stevenaia Michinaga: pain, that comes with a good experience? can you give an example?
Calvino Rabeni: Yes, the arrow of love
Paradise Tennant: impermenance :) sorry sleepy
stevenaia Michinaga: nods
sinequanon Sahara: but he is more universal...he says ..let us conjoin the sorrows of the world to the sorrows of love...drunkenness frows when wines are wixed in wines
Paradise Tennant: wixed ?
sinequanon Sahara: grows
sinequanon Sahara: mixed
sinequanon Sahara: sorry
Eos Amaterasu: whisked
Paradise Tennant: swished :)
Eos Amaterasu: froths
Calvino Rabeni: The conjoining of any joy with the sorrows that are part of the life that receives the joy
Paradise Tennant: sips her italian red and thinks perfect language :)
Calvino Rabeni: I will meet you then, do you have some home place?
Eliza Madrigal: if love drunk might not notice the arrow
Calvino Rabeni: That's what it asks
Eos Amaterasu: love drunk blisses pain
Calvino Rabeni: a new experience, where it is taken into
Calvino Rabeni: It may be, we are incapable of separating the experiences
Calvino Rabeni: or, it may be that the lesson of love appears as a lesson about sorrow
Calvino Rabeni: throughout history those have been seen mixed together
Eos Amaterasu recalls, death is life's best idea
sinequanon Sahara: ye Calvin
--BELL--
sinequanon Sahara: had the drunkenness been in wine...the wine cup would have danced
sinequanon Sahara: that would have been quite freaky too
sinequanon Sahara: dancing crockery
Paradise Tennant: sometimes love is happy :)
Sylectra Darwin smiles
Eliza Madrigal: must be what is going on in SL... all the dancing objects....
Paradise Tennant: does not have to a sorrow ..can be a joy
sinequanon Sahara: the cosmic triplets.....
Sylectra Darwin: What kinds of dancing objects?
sinequanon Sahara: love beauty and sorrow
Calvino Rabeni: As soon as joy of love, is not the fear of loss an easy temptation?
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, everything dances in SL... always morphing and adapting
sinequanon Sahara: yes sl is like the mad hatters tea party
Eliza Madrigal: :)
FcSeeker Resident: takes a humble bow
Eos Amaterasu: dances with pixels
Sylectra Darwin: oops, sorry FC
FcSeeker Resident: namaste
Eliza Madrigal: Bye FcS
Sylectra Darwin: namaste
sinequanon Sahara: the first thing that was created was the luminous essence called the intellect
Paradise Tennant: take are fc :)
oO0Oo Resident waves at fcSeeker
sinequanon Sahara: the intellect gave birth to three things....
sinequanon Sahara: the knowledge of self....
sinequanon Sahara: the knowledge of truth....
sinequanon Sahara: and the knowledge of the phenomenal world....
sinequanon Sahara: the knowledge of self gave birth to Love
sinequanon Sahara: the knowledge of truth ...gave birth to Beauty....
sinequanon Sahara: and the last the knowledge of the worlds...gave birth to......Sorrow...
sinequanon Sahara: when love looked at beauty ...a smiled appeared on her face....the angels were born...
sinequanon Sahara: when soorows saw this...well flirting...it got jealous...it suspended it self over beauty...
sinequanon Sahara: that created the rest of the world...
sinequanon Sahara: since the beginning of creatin...love beauty and sorrow are so interwined...the celestial and the terrestrial are governed by them
Calvino Rabeni: Who created, or if you prefer, first grasped the truth of, that creation story, sine?
Calvino Rabeni: It's thought-provoking about that intertwining
Sylectra Darwin: I love that
sinequanon Sahara: his name was sheikh suharwardi maqtool
Sylectra Darwin: Weaves in beautifully with our discussion of the poppy's significance.
Calvino Rabeni: who were his people?
sinequanon Sahara: maqtool meaning...murdered...he was killed
stevenaia Michinaga: .....says the person with the twine
Eliza Madrigal: :)) Stevie
sinequanon Sahara: its called the doctrine of illumination...as everything begins with light...
Eliza Madrigal: trapped in light...
Eos Amaterasu: trapping light
Eos Amaterasu: yummy ATP
Sylectra Darwin: light trappings
Calvino Rabeni: I have a hunch, that intellect meant something else what that was formulated
Calvino Rabeni: than it seems to now
sinequanon Sahara: the internet is almost quiet on him...sorry cant offer any links...
Calvino Rabeni: thanks
Eos Amaterasu: Aristotle said that it (intellect) was in a certain way "all things"
sinequanon Sahara: perhaps it was more "sacred" then..is that what you mean Calvin
Calvino Rabeni: because it fits well with the contemplations that are swirling around me recently
Calvino Rabeni: Perhaps yes
Calvino Rabeni: Aristotle seemed to want people to be able to speak across many divisions
--BELL--
oO0Oo Resident waves at Susan
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Calvino Rabeni: _/!\_
Calvino Rabeni slips out during the pause,
oO0Oo Resident: _/\_
Sylectra Darwin: Well it's time for me to go pick up a kid and bring her home :)
Eliza Madrigal: and to hold opposing views in an openish way
stevenaia Michinaga: bye sylectra, drive safely
Eliza Madrigal: :) Hi Susan (and bye Calvino & Sylectra)
Eos Amaterasu: caio, /||\, bellissimi
oO0Oo Resident: :) take care Sylectra
Sylectra Darwin: Nice to see you all :)
Paradise Tennant: good nite sylectra .. Cal :)
Paradise Tennant: http://www.alahazrat.net/islam/sheik...soharwardi.php
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Eos :)
Sylectra Darwin: you too - good weekend
stevenaia Michinaga: Night Eos
Eliza Madrigal: Night
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, thanks Paradise
Paradise Tennant: Note: It is to be noted that there are two different personalities by the names of Shahab al-Din Suhrawardi. One of them is he who is described above and is the founder of the "Surawardi Sufi Taraqah" and the other one named Shaykh Shihab al-Din Abu 'al-Futuh Ahmad (Or Yahya) Ibn Habaish (or Ya'ish) Ibn Amirak called al-Maqtul (D, 578/1191). Also called Shaykh Al-Ishraq. He was one of the greatest master and presenter of the philosophy of "Illumination". According to Some books he (Shaykh Suhrawardi Maqtul) was the nephew of the great Shaykh Shihab al-Din Suhrawardi, but it is doubted that this is correct.
Eliza Madrigal: meteor shower is 'scheduled' now... so I must away :)) Thanks for an interesting line of discussion
Eliza Madrigal: so nice to see you twice in one day oO0Oo :)
stevenaia Michinaga: moon is bright tonight :( bad for meteor seeing
Eliza Madrigal: yes....
Paradise Tennant: http://www.muslimphilosophy.com/ip/rep/H031.htm
Eliza Madrigal: well we persist
Paradise Tennant: a better link :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
oO0Oo Resident: bye Eliza.. likewise
Paradise Tennant: smiles and waves at eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: :::Bows:::: Night friends
Paradise Tennant: namaste :)
iwandertoo Resident: waves
stevenaia Michinaga: enjoy, Eliza
sinequanon Sahara: Paradise your link refers to another one by the same name
sinequanon Sahara: the first one that is
oO0Oo Resident: Friends of Mingyur rinpoche may appreciate this when they have time:
oO0Oo Resident: Youngest son of Tulku Ugyen, has left his retreat in India without taking any possessions, food, or money, and without telling anyone where to find him. http://is.gd/rH9z6R 6 min
sinequanon Sahara: ah you already mentioned it
sinequanon Sahara: the second one is excellent...Thanks...
sinequanon Sahara: oh has everyone left while i was reading...
oO0Oo Resident waves and smiles at Lucinda
Paradise Tennant: smiles and waves at lucinda ..good to see you :)
sinequanon Sahara: Lucinda
Lucinda Lavender: hi:) Everyone
iwandertoo Resident: waves
stevenaia Michinaga: Hi Lucinda
Lucinda Lavender: Have not seen Samuo in a while!
Paradise Tennant: smiles at O ..welcome back :)
oO0Oo Resident: Cheers mate.. good to see you too. Loved the Feynman videos.
Lucinda Lavender: Sinequanon, Steve paradise,...I like the lanterns
Lucinda Lavender: Susan too Hi
Paradise Tennant: smiles he is good :)
sinequanon Sahara: I must slip as well
Paradise Tennant: namaste sine :)
Lucinda Lavender: I have a bit of lag
oO0Oo Resident: be well Sinequanon
sinequanon Sahara: namaste Paradise...
sinequanon Sahara: Samuo..
sinequanon Sahara: Stev
sinequanon Sahara: Lucinda
sinequanon Sahara: Susan
stevenaia Michinaga: night sine
Lucinda Lavender: Sine
iwandertoo Resident: waves...best to evryone
stevenaia Michinaga: waves to susan, have you been there long?
Paradise Tennant: nite nite susan :)
Lucinda Lavender: love these trees too
oO0Oo Resident: best Susan!
Lucinda Lavender: can I bore you with little stories?
stevenaia Michinaga: ..yes please
Paradise Tennant: smiles and listens
oO0Oo Resident listens
Lucinda Lavender: well we have learned not to drive the car with a lawn mower in the back and stop on a hill
Lucinda Lavender: many timy shards of glass
Lucinda Lavender: tiny
oO0Oo Resident: lol... urm... I think..
--BELL--
Lucinda Lavender: that was the first learning of the week...
stevenaia Michinaga: car, lawn mower, hill, glass, I am confused
Lucinda Lavender: it slid back and crashed into the back window
Paradise Tennant: oh no
stevenaia Michinaga: understand now
stevenaia Michinaga: sorry to hear that
Lucinda Lavender: so we took the opportunity to replace the front one too
oO0Oo Resident: oh.. sorry Luci..
Lucinda Lavender: it is ok...
Paradise Tennant: should have no loose objects in the car .. even a laptop can hurt you badly at speed ..
Lucinda Lavender: I also learned that my cousin who came for over night is a teacher of mindfulness and zen
Paradise Tennant: nice
Lucinda Lavender: we had lovely conversationstill late and then early:)
stevenaia Michinaga: wow, being here I actually know what that means
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
oO0Oo Resident smiles
Lucinda Lavender: yes! I let her view over my shoulder this am
Lucinda Lavender: very wonderful
Lucinda Lavender: truly connected
Paradise Tennant: smiles sounds lovely
Lucinda Lavender: I had no idea
Lucinda Lavender: so some things break and somethings strengthen
Paradise Tennant: yes
Lucinda Lavender: what has bree the topic here tonight
Lucinda Lavender: ?
Paradise Tennant: always there is motion ..direction
stevenaia Michinaga: broken things usually result in strenghtening somewhee else
Paradise Tennant: illumination ..meteors .. sorrow love and beauty .. and unruly lawn mowers :)
Lucinda Lavender: seemed like it to me:)
stevenaia Michinaga: and that;s the sort list, lucinda
stevenaia Michinaga: *short
Lucinda Lavender: short and interesting
stevenaia Michinaga: a very large group for a friday night earlier
Lucinda Lavender: glad you all could be here
stevenaia Michinaga: some fridays Sylectra and I are the only ones here
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
Paradise Tennant: yes seems to go in cycles
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, never predictable
Lucinda Lavender: wonder how that works?
stevenaia Michinaga: how randomnes works?
stevenaia Michinaga: somehow successfully
Lucinda Lavender: Luci has the word randomness in her astrolical chart:)...for the mental body
Lucinda Lavender: so maybe
Lucinda Lavender: I already know
Paradise Tennant: smiles what is the mental body
Lucinda Lavender: Mercury at 23 degrees
Lucinda Lavender: well it is part of the
Lucinda Lavender: information I study
Lucinda Lavender: and I think it is a bridging of light and dark
Lucinda Lavender: a kalleidescopic kind of way of seeing
Paradise Tennant: nods
Lucinda Lavender: the always shifting
Lucinda Lavender: with new patters present
Lucinda Lavender: need lots of time to come to a view
--BELL--
Lucinda Lavender: don't mean to bring the onversation to myself so much...just feeling happy and chatty
Paradise Tennant: smiles and is happy too :)
Lucinda Lavender: feeling happy and chatty here I guess
oO0Oo Resident smiles and perks up
Lucinda Lavender: oops thought it did not type
Lucinda Lavender: what brings happiness for you Paradise
Lucinda Lavender: ?
oO0Oo Resident: ::smiles:: ruff rrrrufff!
Paradise Tennant: smiles ohh lots of things :)
Paradise Tennant: many of them have a bark :)
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Paradise Tennant: one who is whining now because he wants a second helping of soup
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Paradise Tennant: think if you touch it .. there is joy ever present
Paradise Tennant: it does have to be brought it is just there in every breath
Paradise Tennant: *note
Paradise Tennant: *not
Lucinda Lavender: nodding...I see what you mean...
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Paradise Tennant: any dreams luci
Lucinda Lavender: hmmmwish I could say yes...but actually no.
Lucinda Lavender: and any one else?
Paradise Tennant: remembered one from a long time ago
oO0Oo Resident: wish i could recall in this moment... I have been having many dreams recently
oO0Oo Resident listens to Paradise
Paradise Tennant: was wishing for a nice one that was like a holiday and then remembered I use to have a recurring dream I was sailing in hawaii
Lucinda Lavender: sounds very bouyant
Paradise Tennant: hiking on full extension on a hobi cat looking out at the ocean and watching the waves come towards the hulls .. :) just a perfect feeling of balance on oneness
Paradise Tennant: *and
Lucinda Lavender: movement...like surfing
Paradise Tennant: smiles could also be balance on oneness :)
Paradise Tennant: well alittle different
Paradise Tennant: you are standing outstretched over the water
Paradise Tennant: a nice feeling
Lucinda Lavender: bravery seems part of this
oO0Oo Resident nods
Paradise Tennant: I have never been to hawaii but seems so real in m dream
Paradise Tennant: no bravery just what you get use to actually very relaxing
Paradise Tennant: can you remember any of your dreams O
--BELL--
stevenaia Michinaga: sorry, I was away for a bit
Lucinda Lavender: listening...
stevenaia Michinaga: bye sam
Lucinda Lavender: bye Samuo:0
Paradise Tennant: think samuo crashed
stevenaia Michinaga: Did Sam say where sam has been for so long
Paradise Tennant: no but I do not think the question arose :)
stevenaia Michinaga: :), ofcourse
Paradise Tennant: well ..think I am going to have to say good nite cannot keep my eyes open any longer ;)
Lucinda Lavender: hope he has been well
stevenaia Michinaga: night Paradise, sweet dreams
Lucinda Lavender: ah...rest well Paradise:)
Paradise Tennant: smiles thank you lucinda .. stev .. for the company .. the conversation :)
Lucinda Lavender: love your dress:)
Paradise Tennant: smiles thanks more frippery :) but I find it fun
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: peacock feathers :)
Lucinda Lavender: peacock feathers:)going to watch the marx brothers
Lucinda Lavender: in a moment
Paradise Tennant: smiles and waves :) nite nite all :)
stevenaia Michinaga: waves
Lucinda Lavender: nite nite:)
Lucinda Lavender: movie time:)
stevenaia Michinaga: night lucinda
stevenaia Michinaga: enjoy
Lucinda Lavender: good night Steve
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