2011.08.29 13:00 - Standing in the Snow

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    The Guardian for this session was Agatha Macbeth.  Since the Logger decided not to send me the log, I pasted the body of this from Chat.  Thanks to Eliza for sending me the rest.  I arrived at the PABgoda to find Korel already there and AFK...
     
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hello Korel :)
    Korel Laloix: Bozho
    Korel Laloix: How are you today Agatha?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Who is? :p
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Fine, you?
    Korel Laloix: At work and pretty busy.
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): I'm surprised you find the time to be here
    Korel Laloix: Just taking a little break now.
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Ah, good
    Korel Laloix: Most of the time I am bored.
    Korel Laloix: Well, a good part.
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): The trick is to keep busy
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): 'Sera QT
    Korel Laloix: I have been here for about 8 years now off and on, and I am done making up things to do.
    Qt Core: 'Sera Agatha, hi Korel
    Korel Laloix: Bozho Qt
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth) wonders what a bozho is
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hello Dash
    Qt Core: Hi Dash
    Dash (dash.earthboy): hey y'all
    Qt Core: and hi O
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hi 0 :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hi 0, hi 0, etc...
    Korel Laloix: It is hello is Bode'wadmimwen
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Wow
    Samúð (oo0oo): OO
    Samúð (oo0oo): Hi/Osiyo folks of the round
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Where do they live?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hello rezzing panda :)
    Dash (dash.earthboy): hey Fc
    Korel Laloix: We have populations in OK, KS and in Canada... not sure where though.
    Korel Laloix: But origionaly Algonqin.
    Qt Core: Hi Fc
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Oh I know the Algonquin yes
    FcSeeker: Hello Aggers Dash Korel QT
    Dash (dash.earthboy): any maps available of Algonquin territory?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth) waves to FC (little cutie)
    FcSeeker: so sorry O
    FcSeeker: Hello O <3
    Samúð (oo0oo) twists and gestures.. "Garçon! A bamboo platter here please."
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): That's true actually: 0 IS <3
    FcSeeker: <3blushes<3
    Korel Laloix: Probably, never looked it up though.
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): It reads both ways
    Samúð (oo0oo): that's you* Aggers
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Moi?
    Samúð (oo0oo): Oui!
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Merci cherie :)
    Samúð (oo0oo): Oui Oui .. ::smiles::
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Wee wee laddie
    Samúð (oo0oo): me wee lady
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): How are things Dash?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hello Sue
    FcSeeker: hi Susan
    Qt Core: hi iwander
    Dash (dash.earthboy): hey Susan
    Samúð (oo0oo): Hi Susan
    Susan Sorensson (iwandertoo): waves 2 every1
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): After extra time
    Dash (dash.earthboy): Aggers, things are slowly coming together in their own fashion...a job should start on Wed with training. I may switch to closer motel at that time. Still looking for better housing situation.
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Good, so things are getting better by degrees then?
    Dash (dash.earthboy): yah
    Samúð (oo0oo): yay!
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): And you like Colorado?
    Qt Core: good!
    Dash (dash.earthboy): so far so good :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Well, keep touching wood
    Dash (dash.earthboy): still looking for music opportunities
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Joining a band?
    FcSeeker: brings special happiness to my heart for your hearings Dash
    Dash (dash.earthboy): something like that would be nice Aga
    Samúð (oo0oo): you can always switch on voice and sing.. :)
    Dash (dash.earthboy): :)
    Dash (dash.earthboy): hey Wol
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth) loves FC's own brand of English :)
    FcSeeker: Hello Wol <3
    Wol Euler: hello players
    Qt Core: hi Wol
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Wollie ♥
    Wol Euler wonders whether susan will sit there or again spend the session standing silently
    Samúð (oo0oo): W♥llie
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): I think she may be on the phone again
    Wol Euler: heh
    Dash (dash.earthboy): *believes Susan is still standing online on the phone :)
    Samúð (oo0oo): Yes, but artfully positioned on cushion
    Dash (dash.earthboy): :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Eden turned up here sitting on a mushroom once
    Dash (dash.earthboy): hey druth
    druth Vlodovic: hey guys
    Wol Euler smiles and scritches FC's ears
    FcSeeker: hi druth
    Wol Euler: hello druth
    FcSeeker: <3
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Yo Druth
    Samúð (oo0oo): Hi Druth
    FcSeeker: (tries to hide into Wol's lap)
    Wol Euler smiles.
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    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): We need Moon here to hide properly :p
    Samúð (oo0oo): Did I miss any Tsalagi vocabulary today?
    FcSeeker: hi Eliza
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): (Liz :] )
     
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): OMG
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi! Nice to arrive to this beautiful scene
    Eliza Madrigal looks for cushions
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Winter came early this year
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    Dash (dash.earthboy): hey Eliza
    Wol Euler: hello elizha
    Eliza Madrigal: :)TY, sorry to interrupt the bell
    Wol Euler: *eliza
    Samúð (oo0oo): Hi Eliza
    druth Vlodovic: funny how everyone is anxious for this summer to end
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Portuguese spelling?
    Wol Euler: probably
    Eliza Madrigal: zha zha
    Dash (dash.earthboy): Denver's tied its hottest August record so far
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth) grins
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Wonder how things are in the North East?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): I must admit I haven't seen any reports
    Dash (dash.earthboy): friends in NYC are back at work today as normal
    Wol Euler: for some reason I read that as "North Pole"
    Eliza Madrigal: wonder why
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Could be the surroundings Wol
    Wol Euler is easily led astray by externalities
    Eliza Madrigal: some flooding in Vt, Jersey I think... but NYC seems fine
    Eliza Madrigal: re the NE
    Wol Euler: hello santo
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): I heard it was bad in Philly, was thinking about Sharon
    Dash (dash.earthboy): Hey San
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hello Santo
    FcSeeker: Hello san
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Santoshima :)
    Santoshima: hello can't see through the snow ...
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): It's a wonderful rock n' roll winter
    Wol Euler: wow, that was unusual. I was about to say that Qt had a strange new wig, then cammed a bit and saw that it was Korel bent over
    Santoshima: not meaning to have it go!
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): :-DDDDDDDDDDDD
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): She's at work bless her
    Samúð (oo0oo): Hi Santo
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Keeps going afk
    Qt Core: :-)
    Santoshima: hello everyone
    Susan Sorensson (iwandertoo): waves
    Wol Euler likes Sam's mermaid outfit
    Eliza Madrigal: very cute, yes
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Welcome to the ever-changing climate of PAB
    Eliza Madrigal: haha
    Samúð (oo0oo) feels delicious return of hot springs water
    FcSeeker: ah...saw you to sit already san
    Eliza Madrigal: pab is like a box of chocolates...
    Dash (dash.earthboy): i'm told this is how winter storms are in this part of Colorado :)
    Wol Euler: hehehhe
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): All soft centres?
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    FcSeeker: here we go
    Wol Euler: some pre-bitten
    Eliza Madrigal laughs
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): :)
    Dash (dash.earthboy): snow that disappears quickly & dries up and then...round we go again
    Eliza Madrigal: fresh moments
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Snow place like home
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Freeze a jolly good fellow
    FcSeeker: like it's happened already several winter times in France
    Dash (dash.earthboy): nice moves Sam :)
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): 0 to e4
    Samúð (oo0oo): can we all fit in this warm pool?
    Eliza Madrigal: as easily through ice as water
    Korel Laloix: What a misserable look for this lace.
    Eliza Madrigal: OLE'
    FcSeeker: <3
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth) looks for the matador
    Samúð (oo0oo): and the bull pokes her in the eye ;)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Celebrity come dancing?
    Dash (dash.earthboy): *wonders if we'll have a pumpkin patch here in a couple months?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: nice idea
    Samúð (oo0oo): who will stay up to greet the great pumpkin?
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Play as Being 15 minute bell: Please observe 90 seconds of silence.
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Charlie Brown?
    Dash (dash.earthboy): raises hand
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    Dash (dash.earthboy): *thinks of pumpkin pie (or pumpkin ice cream) topped with black walnuts .... gets hungry :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): I love the hearts poofing against the snow
    FcSeeker: <3
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Such a nice effect
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    FcSeeker: thanks to Moon and O
     
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Ah - I can't sit down
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): ty!
    I toss in a random question
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Is it anybody's birthday?
    Wol Euler: it has to be *somebody*s birthday
    FcSeeker: <3
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Anybody here I mean
    Wol Euler: ah
    Eliza Madrigal: Eden's birthday was yesterday :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Aww :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Sweet Edie
    Eliza Madrigal: so somewhere in the world it might be her birthday today
    FcSeeker: sends late greetings to her <3
    Samúð (oo0oo): happy Birthday Eden!
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Yay!
    Samúð (oo0oo): <3<3<3
    Wol Euler: missing you!
    FcSeeker: <3
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Vraiment
    FcSeeker: Hello Zon
    Dash (dash.earthboy): hey Zon
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zon :)
    Zon Kwan: heya
    Dash (dash.earthboy): work calling Korel?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hello Zon
    Santoshima: helo zon
    Wol Euler: hello zon
    Samúð (oo0oo): Hi Zon
    Zon Kwan: brrr..cold
    Wol Euler: furries are warm
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Sure are
    Dash (dash.earthboy): found some more heat damage in the car today :(
    Wol Euler: wow
    FcSeeker: oh
    druth Vlodovic: gotta run, have fun guys
    Dash (dash.earthboy): i had dumped some coins & guitar picks into a cup holder
    Santoshima: bye druth
    Qt Core: bye druth
    FcSeeker: waves to druth
    Dash (dash.earthboy): bye druth
    Wol Euler: bye druth, take care
    Eliza Madrigal waves to druth
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): C ya Druth
    Samúð (oo0oo): Bye Druth :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I think we must be all very inspired to have Silent Day on Sept 21... already starting :)
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    Play as Being 15 minute bell: Thank you.  (Hey we observed that one!)
    Dash (dash.earthboy): the picks melted from the additional coin heat
    FcSeeker: sad
    Eliza Madrigal: oh, sorry Dash
    Dash (dash.earthboy): kinda ruined the cup holder too
    Wol Euler: that's impressive
    Dash (dash.earthboy): yah, i've been concerned about the heat on this expedition
    Dash (dash.earthboy): haven't looked at the guitars yet...dreading what I may find
    FcSeeker: <3
    Wol Euler: :(
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): 'Store in a cool, dry place'
    Dash (dash.earthboy): precisely Aggers
    Dash (dash.earthboy): have done so on one of them for over 30 years
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): They never put that on guitars tho
    Korel joins Susan in the standing up game...
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Why is Korel over there?
    Dash (dash.earthboy): perhaps this is a fair example of "desperate times call for desperate measures"
    Wol Euler: pretending to be Observerm
    Eliza Madrigal: maybe she wanted to smoke, or talk on the phone
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Looks just like him
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Korelm
    Samúð (oo0oo): furries are warm
    tinies are true
    When snuggled together
    Brings true peace for you
    Wol Euler: awwwww
    Eliza Madrigal: sweet
    Wol Euler smiles.
    arabella Ella: Hiya!
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Arabella!
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): <3
    Wol Euler: hello ara
    Samúð (oo0oo): Arabella :)
    FcSeeker: hi arabella
    Qt Core: :-) Otime to go, bye all
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Arababe :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Aw bye Qt
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Ciao QT
    FcSeeker: waves to Qt
    Samúð (oo0oo): Bye Qt :)
    Wol Euler: bye qt, take care
    arabella Ella: Ciao Qt
    Santoshima: bye qt
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Is it me or do Korel and Susan look like they're fighting a duel?
    Dash (dash.earthboy): hey Ara, bye Qt
    Santoshima: & hello arabella
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    Wol Euler: heheh
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): 'Take twenty paces and FIRE'
    Wol Euler: more like "take twenty paces and fall sound asleep"
    Samúð (oo0oo): holster that mind Aggers
    Dash (dash.earthboy): ahem...TURN and FIRE :)
    Wol Euler: ah, that's what we ahve been doing wrong all this time
    Samúð (oo0oo): ;)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Ah, but my way nobody gets hurt
    Eliza Madrigal: we only have lemming guns here anyway
    Samúð (oo0oo) purrs like a kitten
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): And frog guns
    Dash (dash.earthboy): right Aggers :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): And banana guns
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, wait... watermelon guns too
    Eliza Madrigal: guess we are quite armed
    Samúð (oo0oo): and Ribbit guns
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): What a violent crew
    arabella Ella: frog guns? melon guns? scuse me?
    Eliza Madrigal: wow had no idea
    Eliza Madrigal: stockpiled
    arabella Ella giggles
    Eliza Madrigal laughs
    Out come the guns - firing an assortment of frogs and giant words
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Thank God we don't have elephant guns
    Eliza Madrigal: yet
    Samúð (oo0oo): lol
    Eliza Madrigal: haha
    Eliza Madrigal: wheres moses
    FcSeeker: <3<3<3
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Keep yer Aaron
    arabella Ella: LOL
    Eliza Madrigal: oh love this one
    Eliza Madrigal: let my beings go
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): That's the biggest word today
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Has-beings?
    Eliza Madrigal: sure is Agatha, very impressive
    arabella Ella: is that a flame thower?
    FcSeeker: takes a humble bow
    Santoshima: bye FC
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Maybe grilling supper?
    FcSeeker: namaste
    Samúð (oo0oo): see how violence escallates
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Fc :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Take care FC
    Eliza Madrigal: indeed domino effect
    Wol Euler: awwww, missed hem
    Susan Sorensson (iwandertoo): waves
    Eliza Madrigal: not sure where I got a bible gun
    Dash (dash.earthboy): pax et bonum y'all
    Samúð (oo0oo): what shall be the contagion of the moment?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Pax et boner Dash
    Wol Euler: bye dash, I hope nothing else melts
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): He needs FC's snow
    Wol Euler: wow, the frogs pushed susan all the way out there.
    Susan Sorensson (iwandertoo): waves
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Dash :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Ultraviolent amphibians
    Wol Euler: sounds like a Violent Femmes cover band
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Probably is :p
    Susan Sorensson (iwandertoo): lol
    Eliza Madrigal: notes inventory option to 'detach from yourself'
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hey, where did myself go?
    Like Groucho said 'Whatever happened to me?'
    Wol Euler infers that she is having too much fun
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Can't have that!
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Fun at my session - what next?
    Samúð (oo0oo): How have you been Arabella?
    Samúð (oo0oo): Travelling a lot still?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Cute (as always)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    arabella Ella: I'm fine thanks Sam .. yoursef?
    arabella Ella: not too much travelling at the moment
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    Samúð (oo0oo): Well in this moment thanks :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): wb Korel
    Korel Laloix: Heya
    Zon Kwan: waves and slips away
    Wol Euler: hello korel, bye zon
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth) waves back
    Korel Laloix: Take care.
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Zon sinks slowly in the west
    Play as Being 15 minute bell: Thank you.
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Korel :) cute hair
    Samúð (oo0oo): Bye Zon
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Yes, isn't it?
    Korel Laloix smiles ..... wado
    Samúð (oo0oo): Didn't miss much Korel.. just a cyclone of frogs
    arabella Ella giggles
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): And LOLs
    Korel Laloix: Nice.
    Wol Euler grins somewhat shamefacedly
    Korel Laloix: I like Kermit
    Eliza Madrigal: LoLfrogs
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Shameantlered
    Wol Euler: that too
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Mmm
    arabella Ella: guess who is the culprit!
    Samúð (oo0oo): the velvetine catelope
    Wol Euler whistles and looks around
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): The Freemasons?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    arabella Ella: no one is pointing fingers ...
    Wol Euler: "when can I run and play with the real catelopes?"
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Twelve-foot lizards from Venus?
    arabella Ella: or paws
    Agatha tugs Wol's tail to get their attention!
    Wol Euler: hello zen
    Wol Euler: ow
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zen :)
    Samúð (oo0oo): better catelope than cantelope
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Zen!
    arabella Ella: Hiya Zen!
    Santoshima: hey zen
    Zen (zen.arado): was watching TV
    arabella Ella: X factor?
    Samúð (oo0oo): za Zen alzo rizes!
    Zen (zen.arado): about 9/11
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Naughty
    Santoshima: greetings rasima
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Rasima :)
    Zen (zen.arado): conspiracy theories
    Zen (zen.arado): Hi Rasima
    Samúð (oo0oo): H Rasima
    arabella Ella: Hiya Rasima
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Like I said...the Freemasons
    arabella Ella: So who really did it Zen?
    arabella Ella: Aliens?
    Wol Euler: see, that's why I never bother greeting people until/unless they come into the circle :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Santoshima: noted
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Yeah, now I have to edit her out (sigh)
    Wol Euler: yep
    Zen (zen.arado): it was the US govt of course
    arabella Ella: mmmm
    Zen (zen.arado): :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Oh, they're sure to be to blame!
    arabella Ella: and ... obvious next question ... why?
    Zen (zen.arado): so they could start a war
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Bet it involves Israel somewhere...
    Eliza Madrigal: she's been here before actually so not necessarily (visitor)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Oh she has?
    Zen (zen.arado): yeh it was them too
    Wol Euler: well, that makes perfect sense to me, zen
    Wol Euler nods vigorously
    arabella Ella: mmmm
    Eliza Madrigal: actually, there was indeed a plan in waiting for something to happen, but it is too easy to link a and b and c, etc.
    arabella Ella: nothing related to war or violence can ever make sense
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): So it's ok to leave her in, since she didn't say anything?
    Eliza Madrigal: I think so Aggers
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Okies
    Wol Euler: if she has agreed to being published, yes
    Wol Euler: floaty mermaid
    Zen (zen.arado): she was a US govt agent maybe
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): But does it make a difference whether she actually speaks or not?
    Wol Euler: merbeing
    Eliza Madrigal wonders if that feels as lovely as it looks
    Wol Euler: if that mattered we'd have to take out half of the guardians too :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): how so?
    Zen (zen.arado): the pavilion will be attacked soon
    Eliza Madrigal: she gave permission in another log
    Wol Euler: many people never say anything :)
    Santoshima: mmmmm
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Oh, I see what you mean
    arabella Ella: so pavillion is next is it Zen?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): (complications)
    Zen (zen.arado): (visualizes the pavilion sinking into the ground)
    arabella Ella: wipe out compassion
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Nice shoes Liz
     
    Zen (zen.arado): shouldn't joke about it
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Many people try to unfortunately (make up conspiracy theories)
    Zen (zen.arado): too many lives lost
    arabella Ella: well the silly thing is that we have come to a stage when it is difficult to know what to believe and what not to believe
    Samúð (oo0oo): life is sacred
    arabella Ella: about who is responsible for what
    Wol Euler: that we can believe
    Eliza Madrigal: yes it can't be about belief as we've known it
    Eliza Madrigal: in almost any arena
    arabella Ella: who do you believe and why and who do you trust and why
    arabella Ella: especially when it comes to media and politics
    arabella Ella: or politicians
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): I don't think I trust either
    Eliza Madrigal: I read somewhere that the original idea of the word belief is closer to love or devotion than to buying into
    arabella Ella: the world is in a sad state as i think it is impossible for anyone who is kind and compassionate and understanding to become a successful politician
    Eliza Madrigal: maybe fewer beliefs with such a high criteria :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): It's having something to love or be devoted to i guess
    Samúð (oo0oo): trust is dynamic and interoperational.. ::/me nominates Ara for local council::
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Seconded!
    Eliza Madrigal: I'd go with Ara
    Wol Euler: :)
    arabella Ella: local council ... what?
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    arabella Ella: no nominations for me pls for whatever ... not at this point in time
    Wol Euler: I have an early start tomorrow, and some errands still to run.
    Wol Euler: goodngiht all, take care, be happy
    Wol Euler: believe
    Eliza Madrigal: bye Wol, be happy
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Bye for now Wol
    arabella Ella: nite Wol sweet dreams!
    Zen (zen.arado): nite Wol
    Agatha bites Wol's tail...!! Wol jumps and gives a loud mew! 
    Santoshima: g'night wol
    Susan Sorensson (iwandertoo): waves
    Samúð (oo0oo): Night furry warm Wol
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Or warm furry Wol
    Zen (zen.arado): hmmm
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    Zen (zen.arado): :)
    Eliza Madrigal: and we're left with the symmetry she loves so much
    arabella Ella: :)
    Zen (zen.arado) wishes he was warm and furry too
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): The moral of all this is Zen - don't watch television!
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: you're fuzzier with your new hair Zen
    Zen (zen.arado): he getting there
    arabella Ella loves Zen's new hair :0
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Samúð (oo0oo) zooms
    Zen (zen.arado): ty Ara
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Zen will be a furry too soon :p
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Eliza Madrigal: finally, growth in SL
    Samúð (oo0oo): OMG Zen is so handsome!
    Zen (zen.arado): I know
    Samúð (oo0oo): ACK! camera stuck in your hair
    Zen (zen.arado): and so modest
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): And modest
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Snap
    Samúð (oo0oo): there... phew
    Zen (zen.arado): :)
    Eliza Madrigal: maybe you should give up tv for the 99 days Zen
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Or altogether?
    Zen (zen.arado): I watched it on computer
    Zen (zen.arado): does that count?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Ah...no excuse
    Eliza Madrigal: loopholes :)
    Santoshima: 'fraid so
    arabella Ella: would be interesting to see whether SL reduces peoples TV time
    Zen (zen.arado): I am not a non TV watcher snob
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Hope so Ara :p
    Eliza Madrigal: nor am I actually
    Eliza Madrigal: but I'm sure it does Ara
    Eliza Madrigal: if given the chance to engage or be passive
    arabella Ella: i think it does at least in my case it did
    Zen (zen.arado): 'I haven't got a TV' some announce airily
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): I have one, just don't watch the damn thing
    arabella Ella: you dont need a proper TV today a phone or laptop will do nicely
    Zen (zen.arado): yeh
    Eliza Madrigal: yes for me too.... I actually schedule time to watch certain shows now, particularly with the kids, it isn't a default
    Zen (zen.arado): I am selective
    arabella Ella: some ppl here even watch UK X Factor on YouTube
    Zen (zen.arado): only watch the best rubbish
    Samúð (oo0oo) thinks, I ought to zoom in more often and actually look at people's avies ;) ::snaps a Zen wallpaper for the desktop::
    Eliza Madrigal: that may be the difference, not just a blind habit
    Zen (zen.arado): hmmm
    Zen (zen.arado): you ok Sam?
    Eliza Madrigal: Uh Oh, discovering cam powers
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Or Austin Powers?
    Eliza Madrigal: yeah baby
    Samúð (oo0oo): lol... roll with it Zenji
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Love your mojo 0
    Samúð (oo0oo) flashes smile at Aga
    Zen (zen.arado): have gone off Facebook
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth) is dazzled
    arabella Ella: oh nooooo Zen ... why?
    Zen (zen.arado): think it can be worse than TV
    Samúð (oo0oo): but haven't lost face Zen
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Let's face it
    Zen (zen.arado): all those videos I had to watch
    arabella Ella: LOL
    Eliza Madrigal: 'had to watch' hah
    Zen (zen.arado): took all day
    arabella Ella: what I dont like about FB at the moment is they keep changing things every day
    arabella Ella: new settings, etc
    Eliza Madrigal: 'improvements'
    arabella Ella: too many Eliza and all at the same time
    arabella Ella: ppl dont mind change but too much is too much
    Eliza Madrigal: hmmm... Santo? Okay?
    Santoshima: needed air
    Santoshima: and grass
    Eliza Madrigal: ah OK :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): And snow
    Samúð (oo0oo): here is a course at Stanford Univ. just on Facebook and its history of ethical dilemmas for modern social culture.
    arabella Ella: if you need heat this is the place to visit :)
    arabella Ella: come visit me
    Samúð (oo0oo): *there
    Zen (zen.arado): amazing Sam
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): That will be one loooooong course
    Samúð (oo0oo): indeed
    Eliza Madrigal: wow
    Eliza Madrigal: does no one subscribe to the 'everything bad is good for you' philosophy?
    Zen (zen.arado): so that's why I don't visit
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Me
    arabella Ella: lots of new ethical dilemmas and decisions
    Zen (zen.arado): too many ethical dilemmas
    Eliza Madrigal: :) >whew<
    Samúð (oo0oo): am struck by the lag between adoption and being informed on so many online fronts
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): There's lag everywhere 0
    Zen (zen.arado): too much information
    arabella Ella: do you think everyone is interested in being informed though?
    Zen (zen.arado): overload
    Eliza Madrigal: I think we are in transition
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Informed with the truth, yes
    arabella Ella: many young ppl just dont care
    Samúð (oo0oo): no I don't
    Samúð (oo0oo): used to
    Samúð (oo0oo): not anymore
    Zen (zen.arado): should keep friends to under 100
    Samúð (oo0oo): people seem to crave their ignorance, and hold it close
    Santoshima: mass disembodiment
    arabella Ella: why Zen?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): In SL or RL Zen?
    Zen (zen.arado): Facebook
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Oh
    Samúð (oo0oo): How can a person realistically be a good friend to 100 people?
    Zen (zen.arado): but there is a theory that humans interact best in groups of 150 or so
    arabella Ella: no one says you have to be a 'good' friend on FB
    Zen (zen.arado): exactly Sam
    Subaru Arun is Online
    Eliza Madrigal: because one friend just needs a note and wave once in a while, and another just likes a hug on their birthday
    Santoshima: whose theory, zen?
    arabella Ella: some need an occasional 'poke'
    Samúð (oo0oo): and can one be a good friend to 3 people while maintaining hundreds of associations?
    Zen (zen.arado): I forget Santo
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    arabella Ella: yes Sam
    Susan Sorensson (iwandertoo): depends what fuels you
    arabella Ella: i must go very late here nearly midnight good night all!
    Eliza Madrigal: Night Ara :)
    Zen (zen.arado): nite Ara
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Sleep well Ara
    Santoshima: night ara, sleep well
    Zen (zen.arado): sleep well
    Zen (zen.arado): don't go on FB
    Susan Sorensson (iwandertoo): waves
    Zen (zen.arado): :)
    Samúð (oo0oo) still nominates Ara for at least kindnes and compassion
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Samúð (oo0oo): cheers
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    Eliza Madrigal: I'm closer to my sister now than I was pre-facebook... she feels good that I can keep up with her kids' pictures for instance
    Samúð (oo0oo): :P
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Is she close?
    Eliza Madrigal: no in a different state and ten years younger
    Samúð (oo0oo): balance and choice
    Eliza Madrigal: and rhythms of life and work
    Zen (zen.arado): selectivity
    Zen (zen.arado): it's ok if used properly
    Zen (zen.arado): I guess
    Samúð (oo0oo): what if "fuel" is not ultimately external Susan?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, I definitely see both sides
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): There's no fuel like an old fuel
    Eliza Madrigal: but I value some treasures mined there
    Santoshima: did susan mean fuel as external?
    Susan Sorensson (iwandertoo): for extroverts social engagement is fuel in addition to their internally driven values
    Eliza Madrigal: yes if someone is very outgoing they might be energized by lots of feedback?
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, nods
    Susan Sorensson (iwandertoo): nods with eliza
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): There ya go then
    Zen (zen.arado): it can use up a lot of time
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: generally I have a 'if I can't slow it down give it up' policy
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): As you get older, that's a wise policy :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Zen (zen.arado): that's why I have given everything up :)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Aww
    Susan Sorensson (iwandertoo): waves...best to everyone
    Eliza Madrigal: bye Susan :)
    Samúð (oo0oo): Cheers Susan
    Santoshima: salut
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Bye Sue, fuel well
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Eliza Madrigal thinks of Pema talking about the engine that runs on no fuel
    Zen (zen.arado): bye Susan
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): So how that's how he gets around the world
    Eliza Madrigal: seems so
    Eliza Madrigal: no time and no fuel
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Saves money anyway
    Samúð (oo0oo) thinks Tokyo to New jersey must seem a short distance to an Astrophysicist.
    Eliza Madrigal: good point, that
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Ah, but he leaves his rocket in the garage
    Eliza Madrigal: I've read TSK a few times now but seem to still have to make choices between one place and another at one time or another
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): What's TSK?
    Eliza Madrigal: the time space knowledge book
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Ah
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Dr Who probably wrote it then?
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: stim, with tarthang tulku actually
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): tsk tsk
    Samúð (oo0oo): tarthang Tulku?
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Eliza Madrigal: wonderful book.... its funny though, people get tripped up on the exercizes
    Eliza Madrigal: like 'go to a mountain'.... 'but I don't have a mountain'
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth) wonders what Mohammed would make of that
    Zen (zen.arado): like me
    Zen (zen.arado): :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    Samúð (oo0oo): yet you are a rock of gibralter
    Eliza Madrigal winks at Zen
    Eliza Madrigal: well I read it once without understanding it at all
    Eliza Madrigal: o granted, maybe not for everyone
    Eliza Madrigal: one*
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    Aggers (agatha.macbeth) wonders what 0 granted
    Eliza Madrigal: endless wishes :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): She does look a bit like a fairy today :P
    Santoshima: maybe an IM?
    Samúð (oo0oo): ?
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    Eliza Madrigal: sorry for not connecting my thoughts earlier, mentioned the book because it is an/maybe the inspiration for Pema
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Oh is that where playasbeing originates?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes somewhere in the last chapter of the book I think is where he pulled the title from
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): I see, interesting
    Samúð (oo0oo): ?me smiles
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth) pokes 0 in the eye
    Eliza Madrigal: he's talked about it a bit, but of course there are many inspirations
    Samúð (oo0oo): Would like to experience that mind reading that book
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Shame Stim isn't still in SL
    Eliza Madrigal wonders why Agatha is always poking O in the eye
    Samúð (oo0oo): Zenji Wallpaper for all: http://i.imgur.com/0A1KG.jpg
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): She deserves it! :p
    Samúð (oo0oo): She loves me
    Eliza Madrigal: stim visits now... but a the pub for a bit some evenings 4pm ish
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): That too
    Zen (zen.arado): cared to look
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Haven't seen him for ages
    Zen (zen.arado): scared
    Eliza Madrigal: great picture Zen, love the glasses
    Eliza Madrigal: fun to go back and read some stim sessions
    Eliza Madrigal: or the dialogs
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Mm
    Eliza Madrigal: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/PaB_Books/Magic_of_Time/Unpublished_Dialogues/Dialogue_with_Stim_Morane
    Zen (zen.arado): maybe I will try to read book again
    Eliza Madrigal: (not to bombard people but I love these talks)
    Eliza Madrigal: Zen if you wanted to I'd start again....
    Samúð (oo0oo): clicks
    Zen (zen.arado): need time (and space and knowledge)
    Zen (zen.arado): though
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    Eliza Madrigal: Well had wanted to do the same with 'each moment is the universe'... have a discussion or read along with others
    Eliza Madrigal: bit smaller of a book :)
    Zen (zen.arado): staff at Ways of Knowing is diminishing
    Eliza Madrigal: yes?
    Zen (zen.arado): so many have left
    Eliza Madrigal: left or just aren't regular now?
    Zen (zen.arado): looks like Violet won't have time now
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Maybe they realised they didn't know
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehhe
    Zen (zen.arado): :)
    Eliza Madrigal: re agatha not violet :)
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Poor Atari
    Eliza Madrigal: sorry to hear that, like to read her
    Zen (zen.arado): nobody has any time
    Eliza Madrigal: well things shift sometimes
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Not much seems to go on at Kira at all these days
    Eliza Madrigal: I loved WoK...
    Samúð (oo0oo): seasons and weather
    Eliza Madrigal: but also felt that we got theoretical a lot for a while
    Samúð (oo0oo): and love
    Samúð (oo0oo): and seeds
    Eliza Madrigal: and I like the direct homework, etc
    Eliza Madrigal: Aw, yes Sam...
    Samúð (oo0oo): P: what can be new in SL with PaB and how we use terms from the past
    S: yes, that's probably true. It's just a matter of what you use to
     "seed" the gradual development of something new.
    P: yes
    P: do you see alternatives for the current approaches, other ways that
     "seeding" with the use of terms like "appreciating the presence of
     appearance", "wu-wei", etc?
    S: Well of course I'm somewhat at a disadvantage regarding that, since
     I tend to "think" in either quite traditional terms, or in
     extremely direct ways that have always been outside of traditions
     but are also outside of all practice and ordinary mind options.
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Wow, fast typer
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Samúð (oo0oo): what type is that?
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): The fast type
    Eliza Madrigal: r
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Life in the fast lane
    Samúð (oo0oo): whenever i think of Stim... I ... (fill in the blank)
    Eliza Madrigal: smile or cry, sometimes at the same time
    Samúð (oo0oo): *
    Eliza Madrigal: :) what does the excerpt say to you?
    Samúð (oo0oo): it says "people's nature is to care about people"
    Samúð (oo0oo): to me
    Sadly, not everyone does....
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    Eliza Madrigal: :**)
    Eliza Madrigal waves to Agatha, sweet dreams friend
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Well, I shall jump in my tardis and be off
    Aggers (agatha.macbeth): Bye folks
    Zen (zen.arado): bye Aggers
    Samúð (oo0oo): Bye Aggers. nice to see you.
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    Zen (zen.arado): am reading Stillness Speaks' atm
    Eliza Madrigal: oooh, nice?
    Zen (zen.arado): Eckhart Tolle
    Zen (zen.arado): it is free on web in PDF
    Eliza Madrigal: he has very long talks available on youtube... was surprised
    Eliza Madrigal: finished with I Am That?
    Zen (zen.arado): no
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Samúð (oo0oo): He has given all away too I suspect Zen
    Eliza Madrigal: mmm
    Samúð (oo0oo): Received and given
    Zen (zen.arado): it is good stuff I think
    Zen (zen.arado): concentrated
    Eliza Madrigal: I enjoy his humor a lot
    Samúð (oo0oo): Yes, it is hopeful in the best way
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Eliza Madrigal: hmm. you're right.... see the pdf easily in search
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks for the tip Zen
    Samúð (oo0oo): like a parents chuckling at a toddler who is tipping a big yoghurt container upside down to try and get more.
    Zen (zen.arado): he isn't humorous in the books only on CD and vdeos
    Santoshima: his humour is physical
    Santoshima: in the delivery
    Santoshima: and fine mugging
    Samúð (oo0oo): "fine mugging"?
    Santoshima: facial
    Santoshima: and gesture
    Santoshima: mugging is with one's mug/face
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, interesting, yes he has a mischievous face
    Zen (zen.arado): yes he laughs at the human predicament
    Santoshima: very mischievous face
    Zen (zen.arado): the things we get up to with our big egos
    Eliza Madrigal: guess it goes back to that 'being entertained' question again
    Zen (zen.arado): it can sound so silly
    Eliza Madrigal: what can?
    Zen (zen.arado): the silly way we think because of our egos
    Eliza Madrigal: ah
    Eliza Madrigal: egos change proportions of things perhaps
    Eliza Madrigal: or any time we're projecting outward
    Eliza Madrigal: ?
    Zen (zen.arado): I wishI could think of an example he used
    Samúð (oo0oo): maybe we don't *have* egos, rather they play us, flickering alternately between ego and non-ego avatars... and in so much as there is space for and capacity for free will, we can choose to fuel one or the other... if and when we see what is actually happening
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    Zen (zen.arado): yes Sam
    Zen (zen.arado): they are a kind of protective mechanism maybe
    Zen (zen.arado): something that helps us to survive but has got out of control
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    Zen (zen.arado): his pain body idea is interesting
    Eliza Madrigal: yes pondering
    Zen (zen.arado): it is a very graphic way to represent the way we store old hurts
    Eliza Madrigal: seems very on pointe to me, tenzin wangyal uses the same terms as well
    Zen (zen.arado): and how it interferes with relationships especially
    Zen (zen.arado): some little innocuous word can trigger an explosion in the other person because of some incident in the past
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Eliza Madrigal: there can be these times when we see someone reacting to us from their pain rather than what is actually happening, and learn from that to catch ourselves
    Zen (zen.arado): yes if we can catch it in time
    Zen (zen.arado): but you don't know beforehand the reaction you are going to get
    Santoshima: the majority of human emotion is pain-based it would seem: most actions/inactions rooted in various fears
    Santoshima: fear of injury, poverty,
    Zen (zen.arado): yes fear seems to be the big thing
    Santoshima: all of the physical-based needs
    Santoshima: fear of death
    Zen (zen.arado): maybe fear is THE thing that causes us the most suffering
    Santoshima: the biggest seems to be the fear of not being loved
    Eliza Madrigal: mmm
    Eliza Madrigal: it can sound like anything else would be suggesting one go out naked to a battlefield
    Santoshima: we are naked
    Santoshima: and we are on the battlefield
    Santoshima: we are the battlefield
    Santoshima: each and everyone
    Eliza Madrigal: mm
    Santoshima: just takes different forms
    Samúð (oo0oo): the biggest is always the fear du jour
    Santoshima: soup
    Eliza Madrigal: setting up against fear doesn't seem an alternative
    Zen (zen.arado): mostly ET's antidote seems to be just becoming aware
    Zen (zen.arado): they say that in Zen too
    Zen (zen.arado): you just have to to see
    Zen (zen.arado): the eg likes to wrap things in mystery and create structures of thought
    Santoshima: ego does have a function
    Santoshima: not to be eradicated
    Zen (zen.arado): yes its own survival
    Santoshima: but recognized for it's purpose
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks for that clarification... nods
    Santoshima: ?
    Samúð (oo0oo): there are states that we glean intellectually, sometimes quite indirectly known. We (sorry dash) want to figure out a way of working with those from how we see others working them. But, we may remain terrified on some level, unwilling, or denying somehow having the experience. What if it were that we were never truly loved? How can one really be in the full implication of that? yet there are degrees of seeing self and other with mirrors. Choices.
    Zen (zen.arado): he he
    Zen (zen.arado): (about Dash)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Samúð (oo0oo): :) yes (love ya Dash)
    Zen (zen.arado): hear ya Sam
    Eliza Madrigal: ponders seriously
    Zen (zen.arado): :)
    Zen (zen.arado): sorry
    Santoshima: will you say more, Sam?
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    Samúð (oo0oo): reflecting on:
    Samúð (oo0oo): [15:21] Santoshima: the biggest seems to be the fear of not being love
    Samúð (oo0oo): and encounters with people in my life who from my limited perspective, seem to be without ability to empathise for instance.
    Samúð (oo0oo): yet have learned
    Zen (zen.arado): Aspergr's?
    Eliza Madrigal: mmm have learned?
    Samúð (oo0oo): techniques for appearing to empathise
    Zen (zen.arado): Aspergr's people are like that
    Eliza Madrigal: ah
    Samúð (oo0oo): yes zen.. and others
    Santoshima: assumed you were speaking from our own experience, and am wondering whether you might elaborate from your perpsective
    Zen (zen.arado): they have to learn to seem as if they are empathising to survive in social circumstances
    Samúð (oo0oo): yes
    Samúð (oo0oo): yet cannot see the missing puzzle pieces
    Samúð (oo0oo): cannot experience that
    Eliza Madrigal: play as if on the joke
    Samúð (oo0oo): just know they are supposed to react certain ways in ceratin circumstances
    Zen (zen.arado): I have a close friend like that
    Zen (zen.arado): that's how I know
    Eliza Madrigal: isn't that much of our human condition?
    Zen (zen.arado): yes it is a spetrum disorder so we are all on the spectrum really
    Samúð (oo0oo): sure.. think so Eliza.. living in different worlds
    Zen (zen.arado): just some much more than others
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Samúð (oo0oo): and very nuanced at times
    Eliza Madrigal imagines what dropping that means
    Samúð (oo0oo): but point is... underneath there is often rawness that does not get touched... so layered over
    Santoshima: for yourself?
    Santoshima: or generally?
    Eliza Madrigal: mmm somehow feeling digging digging digging and finding a spot that seems to go no further
    Samúð (oo0oo): maybe i project a tender heart onto a barren moon... I don't know.. it is situational
    Santoshima: of course
    Zen (zen.arado): non-Aspergr's peple ( neuro - typicals can seem weird to people with Asperer's
    Samúð (oo0oo): yes introverts/extroverts and on and on
    Eliza Madrigal: people have been conditioned to show a lot of false emotion also, as they are growing up....
    Eliza Madrigal: so genuineness can be shocking
    Eliza Madrigal: and trust
    Zen (zen.arado): yes NT's can be quite shallow
    Zen (zen.arado): I reada book written by women with sperge's
    Zen (zen.arado): it was very interesting
    Santoshima: was it donna williams?
    Zen (zen.arado): I forget
    Zen (zen.arado): it was a series of case studies written by various women
    Santoshima: hm
    Eliza Madrigal: hmm
    Santoshima: how did we come to Aspergers?
    Eliza Madrigal: :) empathy
    Eliza Madrigal: is there is a difference between empathy and compassion?
    Santoshima: yes
    Zen (zen.arado): yes empathy is the feeling for answers but compassion seems more like an action resulting?
    Zen (zen.arado): feeling for the person I mean
    Zen (zen.arado): (voice typing)
    Eliza Madrigal: interesting distinction... you're very clear Zen
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    Samúð (oo0oo): recently watched TED talks on "different kinds of minds" Quite interesting. Temple Grandin has Autism
    Santoshima: excellent, ty
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    Eliza Madrigal: ah, yes I saw this one as well
    Zen (zen.arado): interesting
    Eliza Madrigal: ty
    Eliza Madrigal: one thing that's said (penn and teller are part of studies) is that someone with aspergers would not fall for magic tricks... they don't get distracted by the techniques
    Eliza Madrigal: so though empathy/feeling may be distant, I'd imagine compassion not to have the same hindrance
    Zen (zen.arado): yes maybe
    Zen (zen.arado): my friend hates me generalising
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Zen (zen.arado): it always has to be specific
    Eliza Madrigal: ah
    Santoshima: sure
    Zen (zen.arado): that pretty much rules out all of philosophy though :)
    Santoshima: really?
    Eliza Madrigal: :) different suits for different occasions
    Zen (zen.arado): well we notice people act in certain ways and to have certain assumptions and then draw general conclusions from that
    Zen (zen.arado): psychologists do that to don't they?
    Eliza Madrigal: sure
    Eliza Madrigal: there are tools... outlines
    Samúð (oo0oo) assumes 'we' means...
    Zen (zen.arado): but I o make too many generalisations I know
    Samúð (oo0oo): sorry ;)
    Zen (zen.arado): we means philosophers Sam
    Eliza Madrigal: it is not easy to converse without generalisations or categories
    Santoshima: yes, I got that
    Santoshima: ty
    Eliza Madrigal: but if everyone knows they aren't taken for absolute a conversation can evolve and develop
    Samúð (oo0oo): "if everyone"
    Eliza Madrigal: and maybe leave the known groove once in a while, hah
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes see... hopeless
    Zen (zen.arado): maybe uddhis makes me feel more like a 'we'
    Zen (zen.arado): Buddhism
    Santoshima: it's the royal "we"
    Zen (zen.arado): ultimately you are me?
    Zen (zen.arado): it is ego that makes us feel separate
    Zen (zen.arado): isn't it?
    Samúð (oo0oo): if only our own point of view formed the vast majority of the true, rather than supposed, common ground with others or the world. That is the hope constantly estimating in its own favour.
    Samúð (oo0oo): so openness and dropping are suggested
    Samúð (oo0oo): "unknown Universe"
    Eliza Madrigal: :) dropping and dropping and dropping?
    Zen (zen.arado): yes the world according to me again
    Eliza Madrigal: would be fun to talk about 'illusion' sometime
    Eliza Madrigal: can't believe I'm thinking of staying online to go to a presentation...
    Eliza Madrigal: have loved this talk
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Zen (zen.arado): yes Pamela Clift?
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Zen (zen.arado): Would ike to hear tat myslf but it's a bit late
    Zen (zen.arado): maybe will go for a little while
    Eliza Madrigal: Sam, Santo would you like to come for a bit?
    Samúð (oo0oo): What is she speaking about?
    Santoshima: yes
    Zen (zen.arado): relationships
    Eliza Madrigal: (not sure how late it is for you two)
    Zen (zen.arado): she is usually very good
    Eliza Madrigal: is it at the on dialogue spot zen?
    Santoshima: different locations
    Zen (zen.arado): I thin it isabout elatioships n secod life
    Santoshima: yes, i think you are right, zen
    Eliza Madrigal: her talks become vocabulary in SL
    Zen (zen.arado): is it at the think tank?
    Eliza Madrigal: not sure... am not in that group, have the note from on dialogue
    Zen (zen.arado): yeah me too
    Play as Being 15 minute bell: Please observe 90 seconds of silence.
    Eliza Madrigal: hah
    Eliza Madrigal: well go and then we'll bring one each other
    Zen (zen.arado): I'l try there
    Eliza Madrigal: OK, if she is on your list you can IM her too
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks
    Samúð (oo0oo): I'll accept a TP if one appears ;) And thanks all so much for a long and windy road withroom for evolution and development.
    Santoshima: thanks, bye zen
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) thank you all for this
    Eliza Madrigal: I feel we hit the heart a few times :)
    Samúð (oo0oo): Cheers Zen, Eliza, Santo
    Zen (zen.arado): bfn
    Samúð (oo0oo): Bye
     
     
    PS: I did try to attach pics of the snow scenes, but sadly they wouldn't upload :(
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