2011.08.01 13:00 - Rich Man, Poor Man

    The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.

     

     

    milakel Resident: aga girl has arrived! :)
    milakel Resident: Hey!

    At this point, I crashed -big time- viewer, system, the works.  It took me about quarter of an hour to get back, only to find Phoenix wouldn't restart.  I switched to Firestorm.


    Korel Laloix: osiyo
    Korel Laloix: Thanks.
    Korel Laloix: Sorry was AFK.
    milakel Resident: :)
    milakel Resident: bruce :)
    milakel Resident: meh, can't rez here
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, mila, Korel, Ewan!
    Bruce Mowbray: You look fine to me, mila.
    milakel Resident: i mean i can't rez objects on this sim :)
    Bruce Mowbray: OH. . . I undersand.
    milakel Resident: ha
    milakel Resident: giant palm tree!
    Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
    milakel Resident: *giggles*
    milakel Resident: this one looks rather nice
    Bruce Mowbray: yes, a nice well-behaved palm.
    milakel Resident: :)
    milakel Resident: protruding from the concrete
    Bruce Mowbray loves the way the palm dances when mila types.
    milakel Resident: or marble that is
    milakel Resident: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Why is it leaning in my direction, , , , he asked with tremidation.
    milakel Resident: the tree likes you :)
    Bruce Mowbray: trepidation*
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh -- of course! All trees like me. . . (I forgot for a second.)
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Santo!
    Santoshima Resident: hey
    Santoshima Resident: what's with the rocking tree?
    milakel Resident: *watches how the leaves lean towards bruce and caress his cheek* :)
    Santoshima Resident: tenderly ...
    milakel Resident: santo :)
    Santoshima Resident: you there,mila!
    milakel Resident: it moves when i type, santo
    Santoshima Resident: wy?
    milakel Resident: um..
    Santoshima Resident: that would be: WHY?
    milakel Resident: not sure :)
    Fox Monacular: hello
    milakel Resident: foxy! :)
    Santoshima Resident: hello fox
    milakel Resident: the dream expert, so nice to have you :)
    Fox Monacular: :) thanks:) good to be here... it's been a while
    Fox Monacular: (not sure about expert though)
    Santoshima Resident: this tree could induce an epileptic event given the right circumstances
    milakel Resident: speaking of dreams, i had a fight last night
    Fox Monacular: in your dream?
    milakel Resident: a rather tough one
    milakel Resident: yep
    Bruce Mowbray: please say more, if you wish, Mila.
        --BELL--
    milakel Resident: um, it's fuzzy... can't even recall who was the opponent :)
    Fox Monacular: did you win?
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Fox and [Aggers....?]
    milakel Resident: i do distinctly remember a swollen mouth though :) i missed a few hits :)
    milakel Resident: foxy... not sure
    Fox Monacular: hey Bruce! (agatha seems to have connection problems?)
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Aggers!
    milakel Resident: next thing, i checked my teeth - all in place - phew... :)
    Fox Monacular: (bts, what is going on with the palm trees?)
    Fox Monacular: *btw

    I reappear (finally)
    Agatha Macbeth: Well that was a pain in the arse...
    Santoshima Resident: something a little ... uh ... tranical about these trees
    milakel Resident: it moves when i type, foxy
    Santoshima Resident: could they be shrumk, mila?
    Santoshima Resident: shrunk?
    milakel Resident: hehe
    milakel Resident: ok, sorry
    Fox Monacular: yes please:)
    milakel Resident: poof
    Santoshima Resident: placed into a botanical garden elsewhere
    Fox Monacular: thank you!
    milakel Resident: aga! :)
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Phoenix is being a bitch for some reason
    Fox Monacular: hey Agatha
    Santoshima Resident: ty / helo little blue fish companion of bruce
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Foxy, LTNS
    Bruce Mowbray: So, was this fight with some part of yourself, mila?
    Bruce Mowbray: Or some opponent in the outer world...?
    Fox Monacular: indeed, Aggers :)
    milakel Resident: *hmm, recalls now that she started the fight*
    Bruce Mowbray: Blub waves a fin, Hello!
    Santoshima Resident: who else would you fight with?
    milakel Resident: bruce, it was a person, but... can't identify
    milakel Resident: it seems like a friend
    milakel Resident: amazing how real the bruises felt
    Santoshima Resident: bruises are after impact
    Fox Monacular: oh this sounds quite intense, did you awaken with unpleasant physical sensations?
    milakel Resident: i was looking in the mirror and thought - this can not be happening to me... then i woke up :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Been having bad dreams Mil?
    milakel Resident: well, not good or bad
    milakel Resident: just a dream
    Agatha Macbeth: I see
    milakel Resident: *rubs aga's boot with her finger*
    milakel Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: They're clean already :)
    milakel Resident: nice leather :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Natch
    Agatha Macbeth: No sense wearing 'em otherwise
    milakel Resident: oh, sorry, foxy. missed the question. i woke up just fine. it was all gone.
    Fox Monacular: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Good job!
    milakel Resident: :)
    milakel Resident: i thought: well, i was right after all. can't be happening :)
    Zon Kwan: heya
    milakel Resident: zon in a bubble :)
    Santoshima Resident: hello Zon
    Agatha Macbeth: Just as well
    milakel Resident: cute
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Zon
    Fox Monacular: hello Zon
    milakel Resident: *whispers to aga: psst? have a needle?* :)
    Agatha Macbeth: He looks like a flying golf ball to me
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Zon of the amazing aerial acts.
    Zon Kwan: i live in a bubble
    Zon Kwan: its safer this way
    Agatha Macbeth: Bubble bubble toil and trouble
    Santoshima Resident: yes more gold ball than bubble,
    Fox Monacular: be careful, it might burst:) make sure you're flowting above something soft
    Santoshima Resident: needs more irridescence
    Bruce Mowbray: I also live in a RL bubble -- It's called my hermitage.
    milakel Resident: like... the pond :)
    Agatha Macbeth smiles
    milakel Resident: we should all try that
    Santoshima Resident: now that's more bubble-like!
    milakel Resident: make a bubble session
    Santoshima Resident: nicely done
    Agatha Macbeth: I still have one that Fael gave me ages ago

    And I put it on...
    milakel Resident: yay!
    Zon Kwan: it wont burst... its all there is
    milakel Resident: haha
    milakel Resident: cute, aga
    Fox Monacular: and there's this too:)
    milakel Resident: is it copyable?
    Agatha Macbeth: Et voila
    Agatha Macbeth: Let's see
        --BELL--
    milakel Resident: it doesn't fly though
    Zon Kwan: no..you must all have your own bubbles
    Zon Kwan: this is mine
    Agatha Macbeth: Hmm, seems to be non-copyable
    milakel Resident: eh
    milakel Resident: i still have my palm tree
    milakel Resident: *grins*
    Zon Kwan: all is so well
    milakel Resident: ah, thank you, aga!
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, no...you just need to detatch it first
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Ewan.
    Santoshima Resident: this is going to be exclusive: the bubble sqad!
    Santoshima Resident: squad
    milakel Resident: there, grab each one a bubble :)
    arabella Ella: Hiya!
    milakel Resident: ara!
    Agatha Macbeth: Arababe - good to see you :)
    Zon Kwan: all in our little bubbles
    arabella Ella: good to see you all too - am still rezzing
    Zon Kwan: separate
    Zon Kwan: thinking we are alone
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, ara!
    arabella Ella smiles
    Santoshima Resident: hello arabella
    milakel Resident: be careful, zon. you may get used to it.
    Zon Kwan: floats away and waves
    Zon Kwan: i never leave my bubble
    milakel Resident: hehe
    Agatha Macbeth: I feel like Michael Jackson
    arabella Ella: great idea to live within a bubble for a short while :)
    milakel Resident: *floats with aga*
    milakel Resident: woosh
    arabella Ella: why cant i see any mats to sit on?
    Agatha Macbeth: Lag Ara?
    milakel Resident: aga, your spikes aren't spikey enough :)
    arabella Ella: possibly
    arabella Ella: LOL
    Santoshima Resident: just sit anywhere, there will likely be a cushion
    Agatha Macbeth: You usually sit on me :)
    arabella Ella: here i come aggers :)
    Fox Monacular: hey ara! good to see you!
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    arabella Ella: i can see all of you and all your mats but no empty ones
    arabella Ella: weird
    Agatha Macbeth: Why is Ewan standing over there? 
    milakel Resident: lag probably
    arabella Ella: yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
    milakel Resident: fun bubble
    milakel Resident: i think i like it
    arabella Ella: perhaps i should cool off in the pond :)
    arabella Ella: warm enough here
    milakel Resident: go ahead ara!
    Agatha Macbeth: You just did :p
    Santoshima Resident: hey mila, maybe face off someone else ok?
    arabella Ella: Mila may i take your seat and maybe you could take another mat pls?
    Agatha Macbeth: She doesn't need one right now :p
    milakel Resident: ok, it broke
    Agatha Macbeth: Touch it
    milakel Resident: ah!
    Agatha Macbeth: There ya go
    milakel Resident: merci :)
    arabella Ella: so how is everyone?
    milakel Resident: i'm good
    Agatha Macbeth: At what? :p
    milakel Resident: feeling weightless
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Agatha Macbeth: We'll call you Buzz then
    milakel Resident: um, why?
    milakel Resident: oh!
    milakel Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Aldrin?
    milakel Resident: that's a compliment :)
    Bruce Mowbray ponders dravity-less "dropping."
    Bruce Mowbray: gavity-less*
    Santoshima Resident: ponders weightlessness within SL
    Bruce Mowbray: gravity-less*
    milakel Resident: gravity is a tricky thing
    arabella Ella: brb RL phone
    Agatha Macbeth: Even trickier if there isn't any
    Bruce Mowbray: gravity is a snap -- spelling is tricky.
    milakel Resident: i'm still amazed how people in the other hemisphere don't fall off :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe they do
    Santoshima Resident: brain hemispheres?
    milakel Resident: :)
    milakel Resident: i hope not
    Bruce Mowbray: yeah, the "bottom" of the planet . . . Must be stickier down there.
    Agatha Macbeth: So do they!
        --BELL--
    Santoshima Resident: thanks for the conversation, keep your centre light all
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Santo
    Agatha Macbeth: and Bruce
    milakel Resident: kind of mistical. we're all pulled to one single spot in the center of the earth.
    Agatha Macbeth: I hear it's a bit warm down there
    milakel Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: So Jules Verne said anyway
    milakel Resident: put we also pull back
    milakel Resident: tiny winzy bit, but still
    milakel Resident: ok, done with the bubble
    Agatha Macbeth: Did it pop?
    milakel Resident: silently
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    milakel Resident: kind of folded
    milakel Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Folding bubble?
    milakel Resident: perelman would like this oddity
    Agatha Macbeth: Could be
    Agatha Macbeth: Who's Perelman?
    milakel Resident: the math guy who refused 1 million dollars prize
    Agatha Macbeth: Riiiiight
    Agatha Macbeth: And he refused because....?
    milakel Resident: um...
    Agatha Macbeth: He was already rich?
    Agatha Macbeth: He was a Buddhist?
    milakel Resident: short answer: it's what he does - math
    Agatha Macbeth: I see
    milakel Resident: neither
    milakel Resident: actually, rather poor
    Agatha Macbeth: Well actually i don't...
    milakel Resident: but sufficient to perform his math duties
    Agatha Macbeth: Where does the million bucks come in?
    milakel Resident: i think they still sit in a bank waiting
    Agatha Macbeth: And why does he not want them?
    milakel Resident: wait, this question was already asked
    Agatha Macbeth: It was?
    milakel Resident: yep
    milakel Resident: well, people keep asking
    Agatha Macbeth: Did I miss it?
    milakel Resident: and he gets annoyed
    Agatha Macbeth: Why?
    Wol Euler: oops
    milakel Resident: woly! :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Wol! :)))
    milakel Resident: how nice of you to sit on me :)
    Wol Euler grins.
    Agatha Macbeth: Thought you were still asleep
    milakel Resident: human woly :)
    milakel Resident: *purrs*
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: nah, just got in from work
    milakel Resident: missed this av, i must say
    Agatha Macbeth: Good grief
    Wol Euler: 10:25pm in the office on my first day back :(
    milakel Resident: payback of sort?
    Wol Euler: hello all
    Agatha Macbeth: Sounds par for the course
    Wol Euler: yeah
    milakel Resident: evil creatures
    Wol Euler: brb, need to make tea
    Agatha Macbeth: Me too :)
    milakel Resident: you're *our* evil creature - we love you :)
    milakel Resident: oh wait... did you mean the tea? :)
    milakel Resident: *giggles*
    Agatha Macbeth: Kettle's on
    Wol Euler: yep
    milakel Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: So, been putting right everything that was done wrong in your absence?
    milakel Resident: oh, that's a bad kind of workflow
    Agatha Macbeth: But a common one
    Wol Euler: rather catching up on what happened during my absence
    Wol Euler: apparently I am indispensable
    milakel Resident: :)
    Wol Euler: or the others are lazy
    Agatha Macbeth: You are!
    milakel Resident: that's also a bad practice :)
    Wol Euler: agreed
    milakel Resident: have you heard of the "bus factor"?
    Wol Euler: not yet
        --BELL--
    milakel Resident: it's how many devs have to be hit by a bus until the project is in jeopardy
    Wol Euler: hehehe
    milakel Resident: apparently, in your case it's 1 :)
    Wol Euler nods.
    milakel Resident: also, bad practice when people litter the code with their names
    milakel Resident: marking territory
    Wol Euler: nonsense
    Wol Euler: marking code with names is good practice, so one can see who did what
    Wol Euler: IMHO
    milakel Resident: this is why version control exists
    Wol Euler: true, but if you are commenting the code anyway, as you of course do, then why not add a name?
    milakel Resident: imagine this file in 3 years? dozens of names for each method?
    Wol Euler: sure
    milakel Resident: :/
    Wol Euler: comments don't compile, where is the problem?
    milakel Resident: it's not relevant to the code. it should not be there.
    Agatha Macbeth wonders what everybody is talking about
    Wol Euler: o.O
    Wol Euler: but you do allow comments?
    Wol Euler: sorry, it's an irrelevant geek-fest
    Wol Euler: let's drop it
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    milakel Resident: besdies it emphasize territorial behavior: do not touch, this is mine. ask me first.
    milakel Resident: yes, drop the names please :)
    Agatha Macbeth: A rose by any other name
    milakel Resident: what rose?
    Agatha Macbeth: Shakespeare's
    milakel Resident: ah
    Agatha Macbeth: Or Michael Nyman's
    milakel Resident: shavesbeard
    Agatha Macbeth: Shave yer legs too :p
    milakel Resident: that's from hangover :)
    milakel Resident: fun movie
    Agatha Macbeth: In Germany?
    milakel Resident: oh, wait..
    Qt Core: A very late hi all1
    milakel Resident: it's from another one...
    Wol Euler: shaving legs?
    Wol Euler: hello qt
    Agatha Macbeth: 'Sera Qt
    arabella Ella: ah ... back
    arabella Ella: Hiya Wol, Qt!
    Agatha Macbeth: Sorry, was thinking of Hannover
    milakel Resident: lady speed stick
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow Ara - long call :P
    Wol Euler: wb
    arabella Ella: yes!
    milakel Resident: qt :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Was it your mother?
    milakel Resident: boyfriend?
    arabella Ella: no
    arabella Ella smiles
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh, ok
    milakel Resident: do you have a date? :)
    arabella Ella: would be nice ... u r all so curious :)
    milakel Resident: *giggles*
    Agatha Macbeth: Not me (whistles)
    milakel Resident: *pokes aga* it's her :)
    Agatha Macbeth: It is?
    Wol Euler chuckles.
    arabella Ella: How was the retreat Wol? Where you there?
    Agatha Macbeth: I still want to know why this mathematician bloke didn't want the $1 000 000
    Wol Euler: I was, and it was wonderful
    milakel Resident: oh yes, tell us fun stories, woly
    arabella Ella: nice to hear it went well!
    arabella Ella: any stories?
    arabella Ella: silent day full of giggles?
    Qt Core: the russian one aga _
    Wol Euler: no, oddly
    milakel Resident: qt, not who, but why :)
    arabella Ella: any waiter similar to Manuel in Fawlty Towers?
    Agatha Macbeth: Sorry QT, still clueless :(
    arabella Ella: (as was the case in Malta)
    Agatha Macbeth: Lots of mosquitos I hear
    Wol Euler: heheheh, yes, and we fed them
    Qt Core: forgot the names but i've read about him, he seems to need only to know that his ideas are right, not money
    Agatha Macbeth: Good for him :)
    arabella Ella: blood?
    arabella Ella: fodder for mossies i mean?
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    milakel Resident: aga, i think an average person can't understand. otherwise, we'd all be cracking poincare conjectures on a whim :)
    Wol Euler: and scratching thereafter
    arabella Ella: owwww
    Qt Core: i would need the money, he seem to be quite poor, living an ascetic mathematical life
    Agatha Macbeth: I wouldn't, don't know what they are...
    arabella Ella: well i can understand someone prefering a simple life over a complex one
    milakel Resident: qt, yes, poor by our standards. but sufficient for him.
    Qt Core: poar as in a dirty home full of insects...
    arabella Ella: does being rich make anyone really happy?
    milakel Resident: it dies
    milakel Resident: um, does :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Guess I'll never know...
    Qt Core: sometimes it may help
    milakel Resident: hehe
        --BELL--
    Wol Euler: nobody who isn't capable of happiness without money, can be happy with it
    milakel Resident: well said :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Must be funny in a rich man's world
    milakel Resident: there's a nice song by johnny cash
    milakel Resident: called "satisfied life"
    Agatha Macbeth: Thought it was Abba?
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    arabella Ella: maybe he should have taken the money and invested it in providing clean water for those who dont have it
    milakel Resident: sums it up well
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeah, he could always give it away
    milakel Resident: oh, "satisfied mind"
    arabella Ella: there must be countless good causes to which he could have contributed meaningfully
    milakel Resident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiJlF8ceHq4
    arabella Ella: frait i gtg goodnight everyone lovely seeing you all again!
    Wol Euler: "bla bla bla copyright reasons, not available in germany"
    arabella Ella: *fraid
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Ara, you too :)
    milakel Resident: ara :)
    Qt Core: bye ara
    Wol Euler: bye ara,take care
    milakel Resident: woly? *blinks*
    Wol Euler: space key is buggered
    Wol Euler: only works if I use my left thumb
    milakel Resident: re: copyright
    Wol Euler: video didn't play
    Agatha Macbeth: Lucky for some eh?
    milakel Resident: how about this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QphglQu3oL0
    Qt Core: i'm on my laptop and as usually happen i wan to hit its keyboard with a heavy club...
    Ewan Bonham: Hi
    Wol Euler: hello ewan
    Wol Euler: same, mila
    milakel Resident: ewan, you made it! :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ewan! You woke up
    Wol Euler: anything from sony or bertelsmann is unavailable here
    Agatha Macbeth: How come?
    milakel Resident: geez, i guess some german label shut it down in germany
    milakel Resident: ah
    Ewan Bonham: Sorry...had an immefdiate phone call in rl...my apologies..:)
    milakel Resident: evil creatures
    Ewan Bonham: :)
    Wol Euler: well, htat stopped the conversation
    Agatha Macbeth: Did I crash again?
    milakel Resident: i'm pondering if i should paste the lyrics here :)
    Wol Euler: give us a link to them
    Wol Euler: as text
    Wol Euler: google knows
    milakel Resident: http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/killb...isfiedmind.htm
    Qt Core: (too much sometimes)
    Ewan Bonham: Nice...thank you..:)
    Wol Euler: ty
    Agatha Macbeth: Playing to a captive audience
    milakel Resident: eh, my guitar is out of tune
    Agatha Macbeth: We need Yaku here
    Ewan Bonham: Thank you...really appreciate it...:)
    milakel Resident: ok, tuned :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
        --BELL--
    Agatha Macbeth: Folks, I'm off to sort Phoenix out...take care
    milakel Resident: aww
    Wol Euler: ah, bye
    Wol Euler: good luck
    Ewan Bonham: Bye Aggers...:)
    Agatha Macbeth: Mmm, I may need it!
    Wol Euler: what's wrong with it?

    Poof!
    Wol Euler: we'll never know

    (See above)

    Qt Core: time to go for me too, bye all
    Wol Euler: bye qt, take care
    Ewan Bonham: Bye QT
    Wol Euler: well, I should move on too
    Wol Euler:  goodnight all, take care
    milakel Resident: auf :)
    Ewan Bonham: Lol...
    Ewan Bonham: Kinda cute..:)
    milakel Resident: poof :)
    milakel Resident: bon bon
    milakel Resident: i'm off
    milakel Resident: be good :)
    Ewan Bonham: OK, bye..:)

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