2011.08.27 19:00 - Placebo Spider's Tea Party

The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza, filling in for Pema. The comments are by Eliza Madrigal, joined by oO0Oo, Stevenaia, Eos, FcSeeker, Arch, Aphrodite, Dash, Paradise, Milakel, Luci (for a moment), and Rhiannon...

oO0Oo Resident: Hi.. is this Play as Being?
Eliza Madrigal: Hi, Welcome... how did you hear of us?

--BELL--

oO0Oo Resident: Thanks.. I saw a beautiful woman doing Tai-Chi and she pointed this way
Eliza Madrigal: Nice way to arrive
Eliza Madrigal: sometimes people find us when they do a search for 'inspiration' or 'insight'
oO0Oo Resident: Is that a Panda Bear?
Eliza Madrigal: panda where?
Eliza Madrigal: ah! Hello FcS and Eos :)
stevenaia Michinaga: hello Fc
FcSeeker Resident: hi all
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Eos
Eliza Madrigal: / grass
FcSeeker Resident: O Eliza steve Eos
Eos Amaterasu: Hi all
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Dash :)
Dash Earthboy: hey y'all
FcSeeker Resident: Hello Dash
Eliza Madrigal: if I lower the fountain does everyone think we'll remember the bell?
oO0Oo Resident smiles.. hi everyone (<-- in grey type)
stevenaia Michinaga: "9/low"
Eliza Madrigal: :)))
oO0Oo Resident: ahhh, love the grass
oO0Oo Resident: never inhale though
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Dash Earthboy: :)
oO0Oo Resident panics that some ominous worldwide audience will get the wrong idea...
Dash Earthboy: :)
Eliza Madrigal: a 'general impression'
Dash Earthboy: or not :)
Eos Amaterasu: the two eyes of g o o gle
FcSeeker Resident: lol
oO0Oo Resident: you make a semi-colon and a right parenthesis into a nice smile dash!
FcSeeker Resident: Hello Aphrodite
Dash Earthboy: i've got a movie called "Katharine" playing in the background
Dash Earthboy: Hey Aph
Dash Earthboy: starring Sissie Spacek & Henry Winkler
Eliza Madrigal: Hi APhrodite :)
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Aph
Eos Amaterasu: hi aph (decoding ever shifting anrrangements)
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Elza, 0, everyone
Aphrodite Macbain: ever shifting arrangements?
Eos Amaterasu: of seating
Eliza Madrigal: peculiar patterns

oO0Oo Resident: Did people watch the trailer for the SL documentary? Or the documentary itself?
Eliza Madrigal: sigh, yes
Eos Amaterasu: no canna do
Aphrodite Macbain: the trailer
Aphrodite Macbain: would like to see the rest of it
stevenaia Michinaga: is there a link
oO0Oo Resident: Wol sent a second link more accessable to some?
oO0Oo Resident: moment
Aphrodite Macbain: yes, I saw that one
Eliza Madrigal: it is playing on the OWN network... so a search there for US residents

Aphrodite Macbain: said terrible things can happen to you if you enter SL
Eliza Madrigal: I must say that I felt it missed the heart of much of what we do here
Eliza Madrigal: missed the intellectual and spiritual components entirely
stevenaia Michinaga: I knew it!!!!
Aphrodite Macbain: They were interested in particular human dramas
Eliza Madrigal: so there was one nice friendship they highlighted, but they focused in on the woman's messy house, etc
Aphrodite Macbain: when people actually met the partners they had in SL and became disappointed
oO0Oo Resident: http://www.life2movie.com/
Eliza Madrigal: well in one case they moved in, and they showed that..
Eliza Madrigal: but it wasn't forever so it didnt count
oO0Oo Resident: [gaurdian kindly delete previous link]
Eliza Madrigal: OK.:)
Aphrodite Macbain: You saw the whole thing Eliza?
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eliza Madrigal: view can do a lot

Aphrodite Macbain: Is it as sensational as the trailer appeared to be?
Eliza Madrigal: not quite...
Eliza Madrigal: there were some intresting parts that might have gone deeper
Aphrodite Macbain: I wonder if they interviewed anyone in PaB
Eliza Madrigal: they only highlighted 3 situations
Aphrodite Macbain: Hmmm.
FcSeeker Resident: drama and drama and drama ?
Aphrodite Macbain: Too bad. it would be interesting to see a thoughtful well researched documentary on the subject
stevenaia Michinaga: just like RL
Eliza Madrigal: one, a woman who made 6 figures in a store ... so consumer, the couple... and a relationship breaking up due to one's immersion
Eliza Madrigal: so of course these things do happen, but well...
Aphrodite Macbain: immersion?
Eliza Madrigal: exploring in ways she couldn't connect with
Aphrodite Macbain: failed expectations?
Eliza Madrigal: you could tell the same stories in a loving way

stevenaia Michinaga: I know happy couples in RL who met on SL
Eliza Madrigal: so it felt somewhat tabloid
Aphrodite Macbain: Sounds very one-sided. I was hoping it would be something that I could send to my friends who are very suspicious of SL
oO0Oo Resident tips hat to Storm and his wife
Aphrodite Macbain: Decided it would make things worse.
Eliza Madrigal: If I'd seen it first I wouldn't try SL :)
stevenaia Michinaga: and sylectra and her husband
Eliza Madrigal: but I guess if you are looking for that, you could see the genuineness of people's search, in glimpses
Aphrodite Macbain: Sometimes it's nicer to keep things in SL...
oO0Oo Resident: sometimes silence is golden.. there is no backspace key in RL
Aphrodite Macbain grins at 0

--BELL--

stevenaia Michinaga: I have liked everyone I met here in RL (so far)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Aphrodite Macbain thinks how nice it would be if there were a backspace key in RL
Dash Earthboy: i was talking up SL at the festival today
Dash Earthboy: there is interest
Dash Earthboy: and suspicion
Eliza Madrigal: :)
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: what were they suspicious about?
Dash Earthboy: some of the same fears as they have of Facebook & MySpace & Google
Dash Earthboy: "virtual world" still evokes some technophobia too

stevenaia Michinaga: no easy way to explain it and relate it to a "RL" experience
oO0Oo Resident: some of the 'home' entry point to SL, can be less representative of the whole to put it mildly
Eliza Madrigal: yes mmm, nods nods
Dash Earthboy: yes
Eliza Madrigal: having a friend who might introduce you is a big plus
Dash Earthboy: yes
Dash Earthboy: had i simply come to SL rather than being invited by friend to a specific group, I probably would not be here now

Visited by little green men...

Aphrodite Macbain: When I try and explain, friends look at me in a strange way. As though I were telling them I had been visited by little green men
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Eliza Madrigal: I sort of like that look
FcSeeker Resident: laughs loudly
Aphrodite Macbain: they have no trouble with little orange men
Aphrodite Macbain: he he@ Eliza
FcSeeker Resident: just and just able to stay sitting on my chair
Eos Amaterasu doesn't believe he's met any aliens in SL
FcSeeker Resident: but well...you've seen little green men in SL ?

oO0Oo Resident: What did Philip Rosedale say in the doco... something like... if there were no danger or risk of loss... it wouldn't be an interesting place... something like that
Aphrodite Macbain: you never know..
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eliza Madrigal: that part of it I thought was interesting... listening to him
Aphrodite Macbain: new territory, the excitement of the unknown
Eliza Madrigal: SL can be a scary mirror
Aphrodite Macbain: !!
stevenaia Michinaga: RL is not safe and secure place either
FcSeeker Resident: well...I know more of such people who are afraid of unknown than exited...
Aphrodite Macbain: and is just as unpredictable

Eos Amaterasu: SL is 100% placebo effect
Eliza Madrigal considers that....
Eos Amaterasu: (so is RL :-)
Aphrodite Macbain looks quizzically at Eos
oO0Oo Resident feels suddenly happy
Eliza Madrigal: wheeee
Eos Amaterasu: the pills work :-)
Aphrodite Macbain looks quizzically at 0
stevenaia Michinaga: isn;t a placebo a cure for everything?
Aphrodite Macbain: and nothing
FcSeeker Resident: can be to somebody
Eos Amaterasu: it's something that is taken for a cure,even though it's not
Dash Earthboy: sugar pills
Eos Amaterasu: but acts as if it is
Dash Earthboy: like compliments
oO0Oo Resident: be careful what you pray for
Aphrodite Macbain: /mwe wonders whether she is being cured of something

Webs...

Eos Amaterasu: "that's why it's called the web, because you get stuck in it."
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Eos Amaterasu: (from the trailer)
Eliza Madrigal: sticky
Aphrodite Macbain looks around for the spider
Aphrodite Macbain: and can't see one
oO0Oo Resident slides a cup of tea to everyone down the silk theads with a jiggle
Eos Amaterasu: that "if there is some danger...", that edge place, is un-sticky-ness
Aphrodite Macbain: where you slide off?
Aphrodite Macbain picks up a cup and sips
Eos Amaterasu: into the unknown
Eos Amaterasu: "furthur"
Eliza Madrigal grabs tea with tentacles and explores with antenae
Eos Amaterasu: slight wilderness
Aphrodite Macbain wonders what form of life Eliza is
Eos Amaterasu: finally, an alien?
Eliza Madrigal: Who are you?
Aphrodite Macbain: yayy
Eos Amaterasu: Owl
Dash Earthboy: phone home :)
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Aphrodite Macbain sniffs at the puerr tea and pronounces it excellent
Eos Amaterasu: into the 90 second open...

--BELL--

stevenaia Michinaga: Hi Paradise
Aphrodite Macbain whispers hello Paradise
Paradise Tennant: smiles and waves all round and listens :))
FcSeeker Resident: Hello Paradise
Eliza Madrigal: :)) Hi Paradise
Aphrodite Macbain: Lovely dress
Dash Earthboy: hey Paradise
Eliza Madrigal: magnificent
FcSeeker Resident: hi arch
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Arch :)
Dash Earthboy: hey Arch
Aphrodite Macbain: GTSY arch
Eos Amaterasu: Para, arch

oO0Oo Resident: Corn roast festival not completely sold on SL, placebo worlds is us, documentary on SL: http://www.life2movie.com/ , web of interconnectedness, nothing is alien, (topics .. might have missed a few)

Archmage Atlantis: Hi Fc, Eliza, Dash, Aph, Sam, Steve, Paradise, Eos
Aphrodite Macbain: Wow. Nice synopsis 0
Eliza Madrigal: !! Thanks oO0Oo !!
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Paradise, and Arch :)
oO0Oo Resident jiggles two more cups of tea to Arch and Paradise
Paradise Tennant: smiles and takes one gratefully :)

Aphrodite Macbain: I watched a spider surveying and cleaning her web as I waited for a boat a few days ago. I noticed the spider ate everything that stood in her way. I wondered what would happen when she would run out of web
Archmage Atlantis: A chilling study?......omg
Aphrodite Macbain: Didn't notice any tea cups
Archmage Atlantis: Addition?
Archmage Atlantis: Talk about misunderstanding.
Eos Amaterasu: subtraction
oO0Oo Resident: enoughness web
Aphrodite Macbain: subtraction. consuming the positive
Aphrodite Macbain: resulting in nothing
Eliza Madrigal: nothing missing
Dash Earthboy: or life?
Aphrodite Macbain: sort of like a backspace

Rhiannon arrives...

FcSeeker Resident: hi Rhi
FcSeeker Resident: takes a humble bow
FcSeeker Resident: namaste
Eliza Madrigal: Namaste' FcS
Dash Earthboy: bye Fc
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! Fc. Be well
oO0Oo Resident: namste Fc
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Rhiannon :)
Eos Amaterasu bows
Aphrodite Macbain: Hiya Rhi
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Rhi
Paradise Tennant: namaste fc ..
Paradise Tennant: hiya rhi :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: Hi Eliza!
Dash Earthboy: hey Rhi
Rhiannon Dragoone: hiya, Paradise
Rhiannon Dragoone: hey, Dash
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Rhi
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Samud!
Aphrodite Macbain: Lovely as always Rhi
Rhiannon Dragoone: Why ~ty~ Aphrodite Likewise
Aphrodite Macbain: We're talking about spider webs, among other things
Rhiannon Dragoone: oh, nobody tell aRch I'm here. lol It could shock him.
Aphrodite Macbain: Koya knows
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Archmage Atlantis: I know you are here, Rhi
oO0Oo Resident reckons Arch is no stranger to the sensational
Rhiannon Dragoone: I know that you know, ARch
Archmage Atlantis: I'm just agape over the documentary link
Aphrodite Macbain: what do you think of it Arch?
Archmage Atlantis: Perhaps we'll finally enter the "real" new age
Archmage Atlantis: :)

Eliza Madrigal: the other night my son and I were excited to see a new science show....
Eliza Madrigal: it was about aliens actually...
Aphrodite Macbain: new is always reinventing itself
Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, isn't the whole question of anything being "real," old age?

--BELL--

Archmage Atlantis: Not to 99.9999% of the sentinent life on this planet, no, it isn't Rhi.
Eliza Madrigal: but, the whole thing was about what to do when they of course, attack.... as though there existed no other option of motives... we felt there are millions of scenarios
Eliza Madrigal: (sorry turned out to be a longer sentence than it seemed in my head)
Dash Earthboy: and then there's the whole question of sentient life on this planet :)
Eliza Madrigal: I felt the SL documentary was like that..... hah
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, Eliza, every scenario that can be imagined and some that haven't yet been conceived can exist.
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: what question Dash?
Rhiannon Dragoone: Aliens aren't going to attack; if they were that aggressive, they would have annilated themselves in a nuclear war by the time they were capable of reaching here
Archmage Atlantis: That is what the concept of the infinite implies.
Dash Earthboy: Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, isn't the whole question of anything being "real," old age?
Eliza Madrigal: positive view doesn't have to mean unrealistic
Dash Earthboy: Archmage Atlantis: Not to 99.9999% of the sentinent life on this planet, no, it isn't Rhi.
Rhiannon Dragoone: jJust responding to what someone said about "real" new age
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Aph, good to see you :)
Dash Earthboy: Dash Earthboy: and then there's the whole question of sentient life on this planet :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: bye Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: I am afraid I must quit this happy throng
Rhiannon Dragoone: Aph, no!
Dash Earthboy: bye Aph
Rhiannon Dragoone: Hope for someting equally happy, Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: I'll go and see if I can find any aliens out here
Paradise Tennant: namaste aph
Dash Earthboy: Aphrodite Macbain: what question Dash?
Eos Amaterasu: happy thronging, aph
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Archmage Atlantis: Blessings and Namaste, Aphrodite
Aphrodite Macbain giggles and gags
Rhiannon Dragoone: Hi Mila
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mila :)
oO0Oo Resident: bye Aph, Hi Mila
milakel Resident: hi :)
Archmage Atlantis: Well, I can't stay ....but that link was worth the stop by :)
Dash Earthboy: hey Mila
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Bye! Mila
Archmage Atlantis: Hasta la vista, yawl.
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Arch :)
Dash Earthboy: bye Arch
oO0Oo Resident: Bye arch
Dash Earthboy: laughs
Paradise Tennant: nite nite arch :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: oops, Arch left while I was afk.

Mila arrives and lays down in the grass...

milakel Resident: eliza, share some of your wisdom :) a little story maybe? :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: mila looks wiiped out
Eliza Madrigal: :) is blank with question
Dash Earthboy: :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, try an answer, then, eliza
Eliza Madrigal: you do look cozy Mila
Eliza Madrigal: hah
oO0Oo Resident: thought that was a very wise story indeed
milakel Resident: para had a wonderful story the other day
Eliza Madrigal is appreciative of the net
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal listens
Rhiannon Dragoone: mila, then share, please
milakel Resident: para is here. she can tell :)
oO0Oo Resident: Putting on the breaks for Sundaes? ;)
milakel Resident: right :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: I'd rather hear it from you, Mila, not some 3 dimensional being I don't even know
Eos Amaterasu: might be a different story
Dash Earthboy: oh nuts
Paradise Tennant: smiles lol
oO0Oo Resident: oops... pardon me
milakel Resident: hey, do it again! :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: Samud, did you just fart?
oO0Oo Resident: something took hold of my hand
Paradise Tennant: we been doing story go rounds rhi ..where we tell a story of an experience could be trivial or major that in some way broadened us changed us
oO0Oo Resident: yes Rhi, perhaps i pulled a finger
Dash Earthboy: :)
Eliza Madrigal: ah, now I remember that STevie...
Eliza Madrigal: fun to read
Dash Earthboy: was about to ask, Sam :)
stevenaia Michinaga: moi?
Eliza Madrigal: think I'm very sleepy.... on a longer delay than usual
Eliza Madrigal: :))
milakel Resident: aww
milakel Resident: our story walks away :)
Dash Earthboy: g'nite Eliza
Eos Amaterasu: moi aussi, bye all!
stevenaia Michinaga: night Eliza, Eos
Dash Earthboy: bye Eos
Eliza Madrigal: Night Dash, Sam, Stevie, Paradise, Eos, Rhi and Mila :)
Paradise Tennant: nite nite eliza
Rhiannon Dragoone: ye Eliza

--BELL--

oO0Oo Resident: that will be me too .. night all..
Rhiannon Dragoone: nite, Samud
Eliza Madrigal: Hugs, pleasant sleep
Dash Earthboy: nite Sam
Dash Earthboy: lafs

stevenaia was feeling the rains from Hurricane Irene... 

stevenaia Michinaga: am getting sleepie, will be a very very wet night
stevenaia Michinaga: looks for big sponge
Paradise Tennant: nite nite stev :)
Dash Earthboy: nite Stev
Paradise Tennant: smiles going to say good nite too .. namaste all :)
Dash Earthboy: nite Paradise
Rhiannon Dragoone: nite Paradise
Dash Earthboy: lafs
Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, I guess I'll be going to, then
Dash Earthboy: So 's up Rhi?
Dash Earthboy: lafs
Rhiannon Dragoone: Prices. lol
Dash Earthboy: ok, g'nite
Rhiannon Dragoone: See you both later
Rhiannon Dragoone waves at Dash and mila
milakel Resident: poof

Dash Earthboy: meets expectations, Mila?
milakel Resident: don't have any :)
Dash Earthboy: i feel ya
Dash Earthboy: was watching "Katharine" during this session
milakel Resident: just laying here on the grass :)
milakel Resident: hmm, a moive?
Dash Earthboy: yah
Dash Earthboy: Sissy Spacek & Henry Winkler
milakel Resident: oh, spacek is good. i like her.
milakel Resident: she was so great in the straight story
Dash Earthboy: she played peace worker in Latin America who returns to US in late 60s to work for peace here
Dash Earthboy: next thing y'know, her life partner (Winkler) turns from peacenik to armed revolutionary and she follows
milakel Resident: heh
milakel Resident: the 60s
Dash Earthboy: good music too
Dash Earthboy: had "Small Circle of Friends" and several CSNY songs

critiques... 

Dash Earthboy: thought about some of our sessions here with ppl talkin "peace"
Dash Earthboy: and "love"
Dash Earthboy: in terms not apparent in their discussions...wondering about their RL
milakel Resident: imagine there's no country and no religion too :)
Dash Earthboy: and that reminded me of how this festival was "organized" here
Dash Earthboy: yes, Mila, Lennon did encourage imagination
Dash Earthboy: but didn't state it as a personal RL policy
Dash Earthboy: know what i mean?
milakel Resident: do tell
Dash Earthboy: you don't?
milakel Resident: i'm not taking guesses :)
milakel Resident: i simply like the song

--BELL--

Dash Earthboy: well, here i find many purporting to believe in and practice things in RL that I have to doubt
Dash Earthboy: from the remainder of and other discussions
Dash Earthboy: Lennon did not tell people to live a certain way in "Imagine"
Dash Earthboy: just to imagine how things could be different
milakel Resident: luci! :)
Dash Earthboy: hey Luci
Lucinda Lavender: Hey Hi Dash and Mila
milakel Resident: luci the dream girl :)
Lucinda Lavender: checking in...but I guess I can't really stay since the dinner is coming out of the oven soon...
Dash Earthboy: and Mila, today I got another overdose of "we" from one who said he was speaking only his opinion but insisted on WE in almost every detail on behavior
Lucinda Lavender: so you all are here tho looing alot like your selves
Lucinda Lavender: looking
milakel Resident: you look like a fairy in that gawn holding a balloon :) as if you're going to swirl in the sky in a bit :)
Dash Earthboy: yes Luci
Lucinda Lavender: yep...
milakel Resident: dash, that happens :)
Lucinda Lavender: fairyish all the way
Dash Earthboy: Mila, it's annoying and rude
Dash Earthboy: shows an arrogant disrespect
Lucinda Lavender: agood evening to you both...may all go well.
Dash Earthboy: you too Luci
Dash Earthboy: lafs
milakel Resident: dash, did you ask why he's doing that?
Dash Earthboy: of course
milakel Resident: what did he say?
Dash Earthboy: part of his living in denial was the claim he's only speaking his opinion
Dash Earthboy: ignoring his "we" implications
milakel Resident: heh
Dash Earthboy: yah, i'm not much into those kind of games
Dash Earthboy: especially when I'm as sleep deprived as I was today because of other rude and disrespectful people last night
milakel Resident: you probably should take a nap
Dash Earthboy: :)
Dash Earthboy: i did,....without anybody's advice :)
milakel Resident: which is what i may do right now :)
Dash Earthboy: i ask why people give unrequested advice
Dash Earthboy: they say "only trying to help"
Dash Earthboy: yet it obviously doesn't help me
milakel Resident: relation is a relative thing :)
Dash Earthboy: so who are they helping?
Dash Earthboy: lafs
Dash Earthboy: well, i suppose i'll leave you to gaze at the stars with no expectations
milakel Resident: yep, i'm off as well
Dash Earthboy: pax et bonum :)