2012.04.26 19:00 – Blue as Being

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Paradise Tennant.  Participants included oO0Oo, Raffila, stevenaia, Miagirl and Lucinda

    oO0Oo Resident: Hiya Raffi !
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Para !
    Paradise Tennant: hiya sam
    Paradise Tennant: how are you :)
    Paradise Tennant: http://38.96.148.16:4236
    Raffila Millgrove: hi Paradise and -0-
    oO0Oo Resident: Nice to see everybody.
    Paradise Tennant: hiya Raffila :) nice to see you
    Raffila Millgrove: wow
    Paradise Tennant: sigh hate it when I lose both my skirt and my foot :)
    Raffila Millgrove: the skirt stayed on the cushion!
    Raffila Millgrove: never saw that one before.
    oO0Oo Resident: :) wb
    oO0Oo Resident: Just to remind everyone not to rez valuables.. http://status.secondlifegrid.net/
    Raffila Millgrove: oh really. it's still broken?
    Raffila Millgrove: all this time/
    oO0Oo Resident: SL has had quite the day
    Paradise Tennant: ok :)
    oO0Oo Resident: Frogg and Jaycatt *via Paradise* :)
    Paradise Tennant: http://38.96.148.16:4236
    Paradise Tennant: nice outfit raf .. like the hat :)
    Paradise Tennant: Your work is to discover your work and then with all your heart to give yourself to it.”
    Raffila Millgrove: ty Paradise.
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Paradise Tennant: saw this today on a pretty little gift bag .. such a lovely quote from the Buddha :) bought 3 of them :)
    oO0Oo Resident: you found your work :)
    Paradise Tennant: wonders how often we centre and just think of giving our self to our effort without holding back
    oO0Oo Resident: hard to say.. must be very individual, and contextual?
    oO0Oo Resident: hahahah.. I like hearing Frogg and Jaycatt thanking Paradise. :))) Nice to have benefactors.
    Raffila Millgrove: helps if you find that work...
    Paradise Tennant: well not sure it has to that difficult .. can just give you yourself to the moment to  say drying dishes with care :) etc
    Raffila Millgrove: (sorry I cannot get that shoutcast up) is that where Frogg and Jaycatt are thanking?
    --BELL--
    Paradise Tennant: hiya stev :) we are talking of
    Paradise Tennant: : Your work is to discover your work and then with all your heart to give yourself to it.”
    stevenaia Michinaga: waves
    Paradise Tennant: a quote by Buddha
    oO0Oo Resident: non-hesitation?
    oO0Oo Resident: lol
    oO0Oo Resident: Hiya Stevenaia !
    Raffila Millgrove: well I was looking at the first part of that quote...
    Paradise Tennant: you can also listen on winamp or on itunes
    Raffila Millgrove: which indicated that the first job was to find the work.
    Raffila Millgrove: "discover your work".... maybe you were thinking that the work could be.. simple thing like dish drying?
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Paradise Tennant: or putting yourself into what ever it is you are doing at that particular moment
    Raffila Millgrove: personally there is no way in the world that I will give my whole heart to ironing or dish drying. to me it's inconsequential. doesn't deserve the energy. just me.
    oO0Oo Resident: [ Music stream Stevenaia: http://38.96.148.16:4236 ]
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Paradise Tennant: smiles they did invent dishwashers :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: love washing dishes
    Paradise Tennant: but if you have to do it .. you are doing it
    Raffila Millgrove: I prefer a kind of mindless .. wave for things like that.. just knowing.. if I do it.. soon it will be accomplished and Not caring about it.
    Paradise Tennant: so you might as well .. do it with zip :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: sorting laundry on the other hand is a challenge
    Raffila Millgrove: yeah well I do it like a robot. mentally thinking on something else and the robot does the "work" that I don't much care for.
    Paradise Tennant: dusted my iron the other day :) it was very dusty :) lol
    stevenaia Michinaga: thank you sam, I was looking for that
    Paradise Tennant: just I suspect life is much better in the moment if we don't resist it
    Paradise Tennant: surrender is another way of looking at it
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, so much effort is spent resisting
    Raffila Millgrove: resistance is futile
    oO0Oo Resident: Thinking of how relative such things can be. It could be that after a period in an activity deprived place (solitary confinement?), one might find certain "mundane tasks" really a vibrant joy.

    stevenaia Michinaga: that too, acceptance is usually painless if you yourself accept
    Paradise Tennant: or the mental grumbling that goes with doing something you don't like
    Raffila Millgrove: i don't mentally grumble on anything anymore. it sucks up time/energy. my goal. get it done and over so you can do something you like.
    stevenaia Michinaga: it usually makes whatever you "dislike" last even longer
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods
    Raffila Millgrove: in my house. we have to do chores we don't care for. we turn on music and go faster with music.. and talk about something good we're going to do next.
    oO0Oo Resident: wondering about nuances of wholeheartedness
    Paradise Tennant: find chores happier and easier to do in the morning if I have to do them late in the day they are harder
    Raffila Millgrove: I feel that quote was about.. finding life work. finding your passion.. so you can then commit whole heartedly. so many people do work they aren't happy in it.
    oO0Oo Resident: many things harder later in the day ;)
    Raffila Millgrove: where's the joy to be found. the heart to be happy/committed to a job you "have to do".. I am speaking career.
    stevenaia Michinaga: sometimes I get regretfully cranky late in the day
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    stevenaia Michinaga: then I get annoyed that I find myself crankie
    Raffila Millgrove: I get irritable when I realize I am hungry.
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, snap at people who have nothing to do with your hunger
    stevenaia Michinaga: and regret it
    Paradise Tennant: smiles hiya lucinda nice to see you :)
    Raffila Millgrove: mm. I am not much of a "snapper". when I really get starved. more of a whiner. lol
    stevenaia Michinaga: some other times I am able to stop myself from getting that irrational and simple look at the cause and move on
    Paradise Tennant: we are talking of this quote
    oO0Oo Resident: Hiya Luci !
    Paradise Tennant: Your work is to discover your work and then with all your heart to give yourself to it.”
    Raffila Millgrove: Para. seriously.. look how it says "discover your work". I cannot imagine ironing or washing dishes a "discovery". you know?
    oO0Oo Resident: How might one discover one's work or true purpose in life?
    Paradise Tennant: well it would require a very open mind to be sure
    Raffila Millgrove: that really is what faces you when you are young. to figure that out--what do I want to do?
    oO0Oo Resident: Oh.. may be discovery just around every corner, every shirt collar.
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Paradise Tennant: the buttons are one of life's challenges :)
    Paradise Tennant: and the sleeves very tricky
    stevenaia Michinaga: I knew early in life... (always knew) everything pointed to it
    oO0Oo Resident: sleeves are tricky yes.. and sometimes pockets
    Raffila Millgrove: really steve. how fortunate for you!
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Raffila Millgrove: what do you do?
    Paradise Tennant: my mom loved ironing she would iron the sheets and sprinkle them with lavender water
    stevenaia Michinaga: architect
    Raffila Millgrove: ah wonderful!
    oO0Oo Resident: that's putting your heart into it!
    stevenaia Michinaga: earliest memories were of blocks in kinder garden
    Raffila Millgrove: oh that is so cool, that you knew from so early...
    oO0Oo Resident: me listens to Stev build his story :)
    Raffila Millgrove: so many people.. just . cannot figure out.. what do I like, will I be good at it etc.
    Paradise Tennant: getting into bed with crisp flower scented sheets ..was so nice still miss it but I found lavender laundry soap :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: when I met my spouse at 13 I knew
    Raffila Millgrove: what was next Steve? wow! your spouse?
    Raffila Millgrove: 13!
    --BELL--
    Paradise Tennant: smiles a very big smile at stev :)) 13 and wise
    Paradise Tennant: and lucky :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: perhaps was listening to what the universe was telling me
    stevenaia Michinaga: in all respects :)
    Raffila Millgrove: steve.. why did meeting spouse--at 13.. did that connect to architecture career?
    stevenaia Michinaga: no, but was asked and I knew then
    stevenaia Michinaga: so I must have know before
    stevenaia Michinaga: known
    Paradise Tennant: lovely when you just know :)
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: First timer acquaintance on the way :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: but it did take me quite a while to find my favorite scotch, not all thing come easy, but the path was enjoyable
    oO0Oo Resident: Mia
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Mia
    Raffila Millgrove: hi Mia
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Mia.. sit anywhere :)
    Miagirl Ishtari: Hi, I'm Sorry! Can’t see anything yet
    Miagirl Ishtari: I sorry..
    Paradise Tennant: hiya mia welcome we are talking of a quote :)
    oO0Oo Resident: take your time to Rez.. no worries
    Miagirl Ishtari: ok
    Paradise Tennant: Your work is to discover your work and then with all your heart to give yourself to it.”
    Paradise Tennant: have you been to pab before ?
    Miagirl Ishtari: are u speaking to me?
    Miagirl Ishtari: I haven’t been here b4
    Paradise Tennant: oh ok thanks
    Miagirl Ishtari: hi everyone
    oO0Oo Resident: Mia, you may recall my saying that we need your permission to include your name and words on our wiki :)
    oO0Oo Resident: If you don't like that idea you can also listen silently.
    Miagirl Ishtari: it doesn't matter. As long as I don't say something silly :)
    Paradise Tennant: or I can remove your comments later if you prefer or not as the case may be
    Paradise Tennant: so what is your favourite scotch stev ?
    Miagirl Ishtari: I will try to stay silent.
    Miagirl Ishtari: would you explain what that is?
    stevenaia Michinaga: Glenfarclas 17 :) but I am flexible (to a point0
    stevenaia Michinaga: we meet 4 times a day here (for the past 4 years and explore the nature of reality
    Paradise Tennant: we record the chat ..and it gets posted to the wiki site of this group
    stevenaia Michinaga: *meet
    oO0Oo Resident: :))
    oO0Oo Resident: certain sacrifices for that path to the best scotch.. :)
    Miagirl Ishtari: Ok that's what I meant "so what is your favourite scotch stev" what does it mean?
    stevenaia Michinaga: it means that something enjoyable often involves a journey
    Miagirl Ishtari: or the journey may not be always enjoyable
    stevenaia Michinaga: and effort worth seeking
    Paradise Tennant: let me give you a notecard .. it was a question at the end of a story we were talking of how to find your life's work and stev mentioned he knew his early on but it took longer to figure out his fav scotch
    stevenaia Michinaga: if two people take the same journey, one finds it enjoyable and one does not, I’m not sure it’s the journey's fault
    Miagirl Ishtari: haha, not it’s not the journey's fault
    oO0Oo Resident: fault is over rated.. who’s to blame for that?
    Miagirl Ishtari: it's our perceptions, right?
    stevenaia Michinaga: it is what you make it
    Miagirl Ishtari: I went to ur website and got some ideas about what this group is all about
    stevenaia Michinaga: ...listens (want's to know)
    oO0Oo Resident: awesome
    oO0Oo Resident: I think
    Miagirl Ishtari: in general, we're seeking for true self, right?
    stevenaia Michinaga: I think I am here to learn from others
    --BELL--
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Miagirl Ishtari: I guess I’m here for that reason too
    stevenaia Michinaga: every 15 minutes we pause 90 seconds, sometimes unimaginable insights emerge if you let them
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles and opens to the unimaginable
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: takes a special moment for the unimaginable to be imagined, a good idea to give yourself a space to let it arise
    Paradise Tennant: you know I think when ironing can be your life's work - it is because you are putting love into to it :)
    Paradise Tennant: my mom put love into all the little things
    oO0Oo Resident: the unimaginable can appear during ironing too :)
    Miagirl Ishtari: haha, yes u get the wrinkles out
    oO0Oo Resident: Actually I received a good short story inspiration while doing dishes. :)
    Paradise Tennant: lol yes you do :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: where do they go?
    Paradise Tennant: lol to the unimaginable
    Miagirl Ishtari: I’m still wondering where they go
    Miagirl Ishtari: smiles
    Miagirl Ishtari: another mystery
    stevenaia Michinaga: waiting for the right moment to return
    oO0Oo Resident: a wrinkle in time.. sublime
    stevenaia Michinaga: (they don’t go far)
    Miagirl Ishtari: so what do u do when u gather here?
    stevenaia Michinaga: talk, sometime subjects arise that capture the attendees
    Miagirl Ishtari: Ok, I have a question
    stevenaia Michinaga: other times not
    oO0Oo Resident listens
    Paradise Tennant: we talk of the knitting ...cooking .. physics .. everything under the sun and moon
    Miagirl Ishtari: everyone talks about this true self
    Miagirl Ishtari: I want to know what u all here think what that is
    Miagirl Ishtari: what is the true self?
    stevenaia Michinaga: to me it’s the image of yourself you don't see but other's do
    Miagirl Ishtari: that’s the true self?
    Miagirl Ishtari: others see what I want them to see
    stevenaia Michinaga: for example, few people believe they are assholes, yet I know many
    Paradise Tennant: smiles would say there is no self .. so then the true self would be the oneness that really is :)
    Raffila Millgrove: mia. I look at what is a "fake" self? I mean who is a fakey self? most of us.. we are just ourselves.. "true" doesn't cut it for me.
    Paradise Tennant: lol goes and gets chocolate :) listening to what true self wants
    stevenaia Michinaga: everyone sees a piece of you
    Miagirl Ishtari: Of course, and it all depends on how open and honest one is
    stevenaia Michinaga: the truth is difficult to hide
    stevenaia Michinaga: from others
    Miagirl Ishtari: some are afraid of expressing
    oO0Oo Resident: When you take a long, long bath.. and your body gets all sort of pruney.. and you are really, really relaxed.. and you let the water out of the bath and feel your body gently become held down by gravity.. slowly, slowly.. and your mind is so relaxed it has nothing particular to focus on.. then.. maybe .. there is a glimpse of "true self".. lol
    Miagirl Ishtari: ok so the true self ur saying is when the thoughts are paused, right?
    Miagirl Ishtari: or ur in that deep relaxation mode
    oO0Oo Resident: oh.. just said the first thing that came to mind.. won't be able to defend this..
    Raffila Millgrove: ok excuse me. gotta run. nice to meet you Mia. please come again soon.
    stevenaia Michinaga: lol...smiles
    Miagirl Ishtari: to meet u as well
    Miagirl Ishtari: Nice!
    Miagirl Ishtari: I like this group already
    stevenaia Michinaga: night Raffila
    oO0Oo Resident: By raffi
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite raf
    Miagirl Ishtari: i ask a lot
    Miagirl Ishtari: so tell me to stop asking please, :)
    oO0Oo Resident: Is Luci OK?
    Paradise Tennant: thinking maybe she has logged in on a phone
    oO0Oo Resident: OK.. She's away at the moment. Hope not stuck by SL maintenance work.
    --BELL--
    Paradise Tennant: smiles sleepily :) thinking I will say thank you and good nite and .. slip away to walk the dog under a dark starless sky :) and ponder my true self and maybe his :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: night, enjoy your walk
    Miagirl Ishtari: haha
    Miagirl Ishtari: good nite
    oO0Oo Resident: Night Para :) Sleep well.
    stevenaia Michinaga: keep us posted on your findings
    Paradise Tennant: Namaste my friends a pleasure to meet you mia will look forward to see you again
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Miagirl Ishtari: same here and I’m from Toronto
    oO0Oo Resident: :) Wonders if Blue washes dishes
    stevenaia Michinaga: I’m sure they are very special dishes
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Miagirl Ishtari: haha
    Miagirl Ishtari: that was funny
    Miagirl Ishtari: special dishes
    stevenaia Michinaga: when you meet bleu you will understand
    oO0Oo Resident: Blue or Bleu?
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: oh blue, para's dog, oops
    oO0Oo Resident: :))
    Miagirl Ishtari: is it a real dog or sl dog?
    oO0Oo Resident: blue=woof.. Bleu=Oleander :)
    oO0Oo Resident: RL
    stevenaia Michinaga: RL and I think she has an avatar of him too
    stevenaia Michinaga: although there is no resemblance
    Miagirl Ishtari: aww sweet
    stevenaia Michinaga: there is a picture of her RL dog in the art dome
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: features all through the logs
    oO0Oo Resident: Blue as being
    stevenaia Michinaga: they are done is part of our sim here where the group installs its group art projects
    stevenaia Michinaga: it’s to the North, the tram stops there
    oO0Oo Resident: You can always walk around the sim and explore.. ride on the train.. visit the museum.. heaps to see
    Miagirl Ishtari: yes I will
    Miagirl Ishtari: I like to see the place
    stevenaia Michinaga: brb
    Miagirl Ishtari: ok
    stevenaia Michinaga: back
    oO0Oo Resident: wb
    stevenaia Michinaga: happy to answer questions Mia
    Miagirl Ishtari: wb
    Miagirl Ishtari: oh I have lots and lots
    stevenaia Michinaga: keeping in mind the hour
    Miagirl Ishtari: but I guess I will keep them for another meeting
    stevenaia Michinaga: (easy questions appreciated)
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Miagirl Ishtari: I will try
    Miagirl Ishtari: Nice!
    Miagirl Ishtari: it was meeting the group
    Miagirl Ishtari: Nice!
    Miagirl Ishtari: u all seem
    --BELL--
    Miagirl Ishtari: for having me here
    stevenaia Michinaga: on edge of pillow.....
    Miagirl Ishtari: ♥ Thank Youuuuuuuuuu!! ♥
    Miagirl Ishtari: I will try to come tomorrow
    Miagirl Ishtari: ur meetings are at 7 sl time right?
    stevenaia Michinaga: thanks for joining us
    oO0Oo Resident: Thanks for coming Mia. Take care.
    stevenaia Michinaga: 7:00 Am and PM, 1:00 AM and PM, 4x a day
    Miagirl Ishtari: yes but I think I can only make this one
    Miagirl Ishtari: hope to see u again
    stevenaia Michinaga: me too
    Miagirl Ishtari: I have to pay the rent so going back to my place
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye
    Miagirl Ishtari: good BYE goodbye GOODBYE byebye
    oO0Oo Resident waves
    stevenaia Michinaga: I’m going to play a joke on lucinda
    stevenaia Michinaga: put her on the train
    stevenaia Michinaga: hehe
    Miagirl Ishtari: funny
    oO0Oo Resident: I'm going to pretend like I am not watching you do that ;)
    oO0Oo Resident: .. first there was cow tipping.. now it is herd the away avie onto the NDRC train. :::shakes head:::
    stevenaia Michinaga: easily amused,  yes
    oO0Oo Resident: I don't seem to be intervening...

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