2012.05.18 07:00 - Judgement, Dreamcircle, and the Stone

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Lucinda Lavender. The comments are by Lucinda Lavender. Attending were Eliza, Raffi, Bruce and Santoshima. (with a brief visit from Boxy)

     

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi friends
    Raffila Millgrove: hi everyone
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi Raffi, Bruce, eliza:)
    Bruce Mowbray: Good day, Raffi, Luci, and Eliza.
    Eliza Madrigal: fun to dip back into dream circle
    Lucinda Lavender: Thanks for the idea...
    Raffila Millgrove: i am up to speed on procedure.
    Eliza Madrigal: great!
    Lucinda Lavender: Great
    Eliza Madrigal: and I think Bruce remembers the general format....
    Bruce Mowbray: vaguely, yes....
    Bruce Mowbray: I will follow along.
    Lucinda Lavender: great!
    Lucinda Lavender: I will start with my dream and pass the virtual stone(to my right and we can hear all the dreams/images from all of us and then go back my dream first for individual listening and then on to the dream to my right...
    Eliza Madrigal: I will keep my notecard at the ready to greet late arrivals who may not be aware of the special session
    Lucinda Lavender: super!
    Lucinda Lavender: so my dream image isfrom 5/15/ 2011 I was walking through an antique store and seeing rings,
    Lucinda Lavender: I am told the ring is from my mother in laws mother..it is a band with many rubies set in.They are tiny and another ring goes with the band but I do not remember much about it. It was 8 dollars I was told and I should buy it:) end of dream. I pass to Eliza...
    Eliza Madrigal smiles. Thanks Luci
    Eliza Madrigal: this is a dream fragment
    Eliza Madrigal: from this morning
    Eliza Madrigal: The dreamer is with a dear friend. They are in the yard where the dreamer grew up, under the less played under tree...
    Eliza Madrigal: It is night time, and the full moon arrives under ‘the other’ great tree in the yard. The dreamer notices a recurring pattern on the moon, and wants to show the friend.
    Eliza Madrigal: The moon is growing, greater and greater… approaching as they walk toward it. Someone then comes into the picture, and approaches the moon in a showing off way. The moon shrinks away to previous distance.
    Eliza Madrigal: I pass to Raffi
    Raffila Millgrove: also fragment
    Raffila Millgrove: from today.
    Raffila Millgrove: Korean textures on a cube. i am studying them... wondering.. are you sure it's Korean? I am aware that i am dreaming.. and then I look deeply into one of these textures on a cube and decide it is very beautiful so not too important about Korean or not.
    Raffila Millgrove: end. pass to Bruce.
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks you.
    Bruce Mowbray: This dream from two nights ago, still vivid in my memory.
    Bruce Mowbray: Will give just the first part of the dream here.
    Bruce Mowbray: I was floating in air/space at the level of the roof of a tall building . . . out in front of that building.
    Bruce Mowbray: Noticed a woman standing on the roof looking at me
    Bruce Mowbray: and recognized her appearance as someone I'd known very well a long time ago
    Bruce Mowbray: but didn't come up with her name until after the dream was over and I woke up.
    Bruce Mowbray: She and her two sons had lived on my RL farm about 20 years ago.
    Bruce Mowbray: Anyway - - She indicated that she needed to tell me something important,
    Bruce Mowbray: so, I listened (still floating in front of her).
    Bruce Mowbray: She said, "It is all right for you to jump off this building."
    Bruce Mowbray: I thanked her for telling me.
    Bruce Mowbray: She then said, "But it is also equally all right for you NOT to jump off this building."
    Bruce Mowbray: There was much more to the dream that I will leave out now.
    Bruce Mowbray: When I woke, I was ablt to summon up her RL name.
    Bruce Mowbray: and then I felt great relief.
    Bruce Mowbray: [end]
    Bruce Mowbray: Passes the stone to Luci.
    --BELL--


    Lucinda Lavender: Great! thanks everyone...so we are back to dream of mother in law's mothers ring which is found in an antique shop...I was told that these rings were hers, cost 8 dollars and I should buy them.
    Lucinda Lavender: many tiny rubies set in to a band.
    Lucinda Lavender: space around each stone
    Lucinda Lavender: pass to Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: wonderful imagery... women's lineage accessible to the dreamer... the qualities of rubies seem worth looking into in particular, to cultivate... wonder about the number 8
    Eliza Madrigal: pass to Raffi
    Raffila Millgrove: wondered why the ring was in antique store. amazing low price for such valuable stones. wondered why it was mother of mother in law.. and what significance she has to the dreamer. pass to Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: I was thinking the same about the antique store---
    Bruce Mowbray: was thinking it interesting that the ring found its way through the female lieage, through the store, and to Luci...
    Bruce Mowbray: and is now for sale there...
    Bruce Mowbray: several lineages, perhaps.
    Bruce Mowbray: Passes stone to Luci again.
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks.for all your wonderings..now lets pass to Elizas image
    Eliza Madrigal: (easiest to copy) The dreamer is with a dear friend. They are in the yard where the dreamer grew up, under the less played under tree. It is night time, and the full moon arrives under ‘the other’ great tree in the yard. The dreamer notices a recurring pattern on the moon, and wants to show the friend. The moon is growing, greater and greater… approaching as they walk toward it. Someone then comes into the picture, and approaches the moon in a showing off way. The moon shrinks away to previous distance.
    Eliza Madrigal: pass to Raffi
    Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
    Alfred Kelberry: is it a dream session?
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Boxy :)) We're in dream circle,yes :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, thought it was yesterday
    Lucinda Lavender: hi boxy...we are having a dream circle and moving the virtual stone around couterclockwise
    Raffila Millgrove: why is the moon Under one of the trees? why is less or more played--important. What is the pattern on the moon.... who is "someone" and why does the moon shrink away at her/his approach. a puzzling dream. pass to bruce.
    Alfred Kelberry: ok, enjoy :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh my.
    Raffila Millgrove: (can you stay boxy? this is pretty interesting)
    Bruce Mowbray: Moon is big -- significant -- symbolic of female natures of things...perhaps.
    Eliza Madrigal: (Boxy sometimes comes for dream circle to listen but rarely joins in)
    Bruce Mowbray: moon shrinks again...
    Bruce Mowbray: moon shrinks because of the "showing off" ways of the
    Bruce Mowbray: new arrival.
    Bruce Mowbray: pondering, still
    Bruce Mowbray: passes stone to Luci.
    --BELL--


    Lucinda Lavender: thanks...from the position of a less played under tree( the road less taken) we can see the greater tree and moon together creating an image...yet with our attention it does seem shy...On sunday there is a new moon and solar eclipse I think...astrologers are all speaking about that:) pattern on the moon sounds personally meaningful to me...always interesting to note patterns...just perhaps know it could change in its significance.passing to Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: thank you, I pass to Raffi to hear her recounted dream
    Raffila Millgrove: Korean dream fragment. studying textures. wondering if they are Korean.. on a cube. devle deep into one.. and decide it's very beautiful and not important if Korean or not (aware of dreaming state)
    Raffila Millgrove: pass to bruce.
    Bruce Mowbray: kk.
    Bruce Mowbray: Was wondering if you could see the other five sides of the cube -
    Bruce Mowbray: if they also held images..
    Bruce Mowbray: perhaps from different cultures than Korean.
    Bruce Mowbray: was wondering how you felt emotionally about the side that you saw...
    Bruce Mowbray: was it an heirloom, a treasure, something lost, something precious...
    Bruce Mowbray: etc.
    Bruce Mowbray: [passes stone to Luci.]
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi San, we're having dream circle... will give you a note :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Should I copy/paste my dream for San?
    Santoshima Resident: ohi'll listen
    Bruce Mowbray: (not sure of procedure at this point).
    Santoshima Resident: sorry to be late
    Lucinda Lavender: The beauty of the texture passes on beyond cultural significance. Powerful image
    Santoshima Resident: i will tun of the raven sound once rezzed
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Lucinda Lavender: I still have the stone so I  will pass to Eliza...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)thank you... one moment please :)
    Eliza Madrigal: liked the delving feeling of this dream... attention ...
    Raffila Millgrove: (san we have one more dream.. to comment on--by bruce)
    Eliza Madrigal: and it brought to mind themes of the last week for me, concerning judgment and criteria... discriminating wisdom
    Santoshima Resident: ok
    Bruce Mowbray: SHould I copy/paste it for San?
    Eliza Madrigal: on what basis something may be valuable
    Eliza Madrigal: (gave San a note)
    Bruce Mowbray: kk, thanks.
    Bruce Mowbray listens
    Eliza Madrigal: so it had that feeling of having a first set of evaluations but staying and looking deeper and things come clear
    Eliza Madrigal: Pass to Raffi
    Raffila Millgrove: mm. do i comment now on bruce dream?
    Raffila Millgrove got off track obviously. so sorry)
    Eliza Madrigal: bruce should recount his dream and then Luci will comment...
    Eliza Madrigal: coming back to us
    Bruce Mowbray: I was floating in air/space at the level of the roof of a tall building . . . out in front of that building. [07:12] Bruce Mowbray: Noticed a woman standing on the roof looking at me [07:12] Bruce Mowbray: and recognized her appearance as someone I'd known very well a long time ago [07:12] Bruce Mowbray: but didn't come up with her name until after the dream was over and I woke up. [07:12] Bruce Mowbray: She and her two sons had lived on my RL farm about 20 years ago. [07:12] Bruce Mowbray: Anyway - - She indicated that she needed to tell me something important, [07:12] Bruce Mowbray: so, I listened (still floating in front of her). [07:13] Bruce Mowbray: She said, "It is all right for you to jump off this building." [07:13] Bruce Mowbray: I thanked her for telling me. [07:13] Bruce Mowbray: She then said, "But it is also equally all right for you NOT to jump off this building." [07:13] Bruce Mowbray: There was much more to the dream that I will leave out now. [07:13] Bruce Mowbray: When I woke,
    Raffila Millgrove: ah yes. ok. passes over to bruce.
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks eliza
    Bruce Mowbray: When I woke, I felt considerable relief.
    Lucinda Lavender: passing to me Bruce?
    Bruce Mowbray: I don't know.
    --BELL--


    Bruce Mowbray: I just recounted me own dream.
    Bruce Mowbray: Don't know where the stone is now.
    Lucinda Lavender: right ...you had it and now it goes on to me if you are done recounting
    Bruce Mowbray passes the stone to Luci.
    Lucinda Lavender: :) thanks..
    Lucinda Lavender: I felt like I was in second life in this dream...poised yet in a flying position...and that judgement was figuring in to the dream here as well
    Lucinda Lavender: the encouragement the woman gives for which ever path is taken is very interesting...and expresses something has my attention. I would be curious if the woman is still around somewhere and what is happening with her these days...I pass the stone to Eliza...
    Eliza Madrigal: thank you. this dream brought me to think of the poet Kay Ryan who said "whatever we do or don't do, we are utterly exposed"
    Eliza Madrigal: and in a strange way, seemed to be about equanimity and okayness...
    Eliza Madrigal: I would love to hear more about this woman also
    Eliza Madrigal: pass to Raffi
    Raffila Millgrove: because Bruce was not on the building--i found this advice on jumping or not jumping... odd. also he can fly. so.. what worry would he have anyway about jumping? feel the dream was really about something else entirely. something connected to the woman.
    Raffila Millgrove: fact that she felt very pressured to tell him something. important. and he felt relieved when it was done.... i guess it's about duality.
    Raffila Millgrove: passes the stone to? San?
    Eliza Madrigal: if you'd like to comment San, please feel free
    Eliza Madrigal: otherwise just pass to Bruce
    Santoshima Resident: passing the stone to bruce ~
    Eliza Madrigal: at this point we can go around once more with this dream, or share 'freely'?
    Bruce Mowbray: thank you.
    Bruce Mowbray: Fascinated by Raffi's insight into my dream.
    Bruce Mowbray: At first I thought it was about suicide.
    Bruce Mowbray: then, realized it was more about the woman.
    Bruce Mowbray: (in RL, this woman died in 1995... ---
    Eliza Madrigal: ah
    Raffila Millgrove: wow
    Bruce Mowbray: and her son told me that she had asked his permission to "go",
    Bruce Mowbray: but he'd refused -- swaying, It's YOUR call, mom.
    Bruce Mowbray: So, she went into diabetic coma and died.
    Bruce Mowbray: But now, I think it is about ending a relationship with a woman -- in rl...
    Bruce Mowbray: and boundaries..
    Bruce Mowbray: and choices...
    Bruce Mowbray: and realizing, perhaps that the more "awake" I become, the fewer choices I need.
    Bruce Mowbray passes the stone to Luci.
    Lucinda Lavender: wow..
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks Bruce...It is traditional to go around once more and see if there are connections between these dreams but we only have 3 minutes so I will suggest we share freely with out the stone for that
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks everyone
    Lucinda Lavender: how powerful to have talked of judgement this week and then do the dream circle me thinks
    Bruce Mowbray agrees.
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Raffila Millgrove: there was a lot of judgement--in nearly all the dreams. wasn't there?
    Lucinda Lavender: nodding..
    Raffila Millgrove: even in the moon one.. which seemed like not maybe at first.
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, felt that too
    --BELL--


    Lucinda Lavender: with Bruces at the end it felt like a centering ...resolution sort of thing
    Raffila Millgrove nods yes.
    Bruce Mowbray agrees that it was like that.
    Lucinda Lavender: For now I must go...
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Luci and Raffi, me too
    Santoshima Resident: bye luci ~ thank you
    Santoshima Resident: and Eliza ~
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bruce and San
    Raffila Millgrove pops up and thanks Luci for doing the dream circle. it sure went clean.. compared to some logs i went. we were all good boys and girls.
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks, Luci, Raffi, Eliza, and San.
    Raffila Millgrove: (read not went)
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) Raffi
    Lucinda Lavender: thank you all so much!!
    Eliza Madrigal laughs and knows that's true
    Raffila Millgrove: Thank you!
    Eliza Madrigal: bye
    Santoshima Resident: bye all
    Lucinda Lavender: bye all
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks so much, fun to return
    Lucinda Lavender: very
    Lucinda Lavender: and the passing of the stone really assists I think

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