2008.10.14 19:00 - Some Physical Sensations

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    Pia Iger as the guardian on call and she provides this log.

    Adelene has a new AV of female lion with wings. She said next to Threedee, the other lion AV.

    Adelene Dawner: ^.^
    Threedee Shepherd: crash
    Adelene Dawner: I noticed. ^.^
    Adelene Dawner: Hi, Pia ^.^
    Threedee Shepherd: Hi Pia
    Pia Iger: Hi, I am at right place?
    Adelene Dawner: mmhmm
    Threedee Shepherd: /??
    Pia Iger: Adelene has a new AV!
    Adelene Dawner: ^.^
    Threedee Shepherd: EVOLUTION :)
    Adelene Dawner: hehehe
    Pia Iger: Haha, a lion too?
    Adelene Dawner: :D
    Pia Iger: ah, a lion with wings!
    Threedee Shepherd: That looks remarkably tiring :>
    Adelene Dawner: *chuckles*
    Pia Iger feel like at some safari vacation:)
    Adelene Dawner: ^.^
    Threedee Shepherd: :)
    Threedee Shepherd: Funny, I helped and met someone today and when he TPed me, he remarked he was surprised I was a Lion.
    Adelene Dawner: mmhmm
    Adelene Dawner: I blame the furries.
    Pia Iger: You meant you met someone in RL, before SL?
    Threedee Shepherd: no met and helped in SL. He is in England
    Pia Iger: ok. He just did not know before hand that your AV is not human form.
    Pia Iger: Did you scare him away afterwards?
    Threedee Shepherd: No, fortunately
    Adelene Dawner: ^.^
    Adelene Dawner: There's a ...cultural thing, with animalish avs, online. It's rare to see people use them in serious contexts. Like I said, the furry community has a lot to do with that, I think.
    Pia Iger: I have no experience with those. To me, animal AVs are more likable, or make me more relaxed, compared to human forms.
    Threedee Shepherd: I tend to switch to my human av when I am meeting someone for the first time regarding possible business.
    Pia Iger: That is understandable.
    Adelene Dawner: mmhmm. I was a bit surprised when you didn't switch, and warn me to give me time to switch, when that guy came by today. It was uncomfortable.
    Threedee Shepherd: However, I am coming to care less about it
    Adelene Dawner: *chuckle*
    Threedee Shepherd: Ade is talking about a potential client. I had met him before in SL, initially as a human av and then as the lion
    Pia Iger: nods
    Adelene Dawner: *I* hadn't met him before, though, and I'm still not *entirely* comfortable with wearing this av in public. More comfortable with it than with the old av, which is now outdated, but still.
    Adelene Dawner leans companionably on Three and grumbles cheerfully in his ear. ^.^
    Threedee Shepherd: Well, you did seek me out without checking, as I recall.
    Threedee Shepherd: I accidentally TPed home by hitting keys inadvertently
    Adelene Dawner: oops ^.^
    Pia Iger: wb
    Threedee Shepherd: an interesting 9-sec experiences, Pia
    Threedee Shepherd: .
    Pia Iger: anything notable of this 9sec?
    Threedee Shepherd: largest
    Threedee Shepherd: lots of lag on my end
    Pia Iger: sorry to hear that.
    Adelene Dawner: :(
    Threedee Shepherd: not specifically
    Threedee Shepherd: better now

    Threedee talked about his 9-sec reaction.

    Threedee Shepherd: I have developed an unexpected physical coreaction in the 9-sec (and meditation, lately
    Adelene Dawner: ?
    Threedee Shepherd: As a neuroscientist, I know the brain itself has no pain or feeling sensors.
    Threedee Shepherd: However, the membranes around the brain (the pia-arachnoid) have blood vessels and sensation that accompanies them.
    Threedee Shepherd: During meditation, I feel changes in that blood flow over my right hemisphere.
    Threedee Shepherd: actually pia-arachnoid-dura, to be exact
    Adelene Dawner: Tangential interesting thought - way back before humans figured out that we think with our brains, I wonder what they thought headaches were? We associate them with thinking too much now because we know we think with our heads, right?
    Threedee Shepherd: in Aristotle's time, the brain was thought to be a radiator to expel excess heat from the body
    Adelene Dawner: mmhmm
    Pia Iger: The head does radiate a good amount of heat, right?
    Threedee Shepherd: and we STILL don't really know what headaches are except physiologically :)
    Adelene Dawner: ^.^
    Threedee Shepherd: 30% of the body head (more for us bald guys:)
    Pia Iger: :)
    Pia Iger: go back to your physical sensation, how can feel the blood flow change in head/brain?
    Pia Iger: and precisely of right hemisphere?
    Threedee Shepherd: there is a sense of something tightening, although that is not a good word.
    Threedee Shepherd: Its like a blanket might feel when it suddenly gets soaked wet, perhaps.
    Adelene Dawner: sounds very familiar. A pressure, but not something new being there; something that was already there being heavy all of a sudden.
    Threedee Shepherd: mostly though there is a second sensation that is like an inch-wide ring around the middle (horizontal) of the entire head/brain
    Adelene Dawner: *already
    Threedee Shepherd: mmhmm
    Pia Iger: what happened after that?
    Threedee Shepherd: It sometimes stays for a while, less strongly (like now) and sometimes just goes away quickly
    Threedee Shepherd: Interesting, I know that the band one is around my temp[oral lobes
    Threedee Shepherd: temporal
    Threedee Shepherd: I am not epileptic, but excess temporal arousal starts there for epileptics
    Adelene Dawner chuckles at Three. "Less shocking, now, that I had such a grasp of the neuroscience stuff on my own, huh Three?"
    Pia Iger: I did read that meditation can help us gain awareness of inner body change.
    Pia Iger: maybe it's something I can try to develop on.
    Threedee Shepherd: .
    Threedee Shepherd: If you want to know more neuroscience I could send you a free PDF copy of my book How The Brain Works, by e-mail.
    Pia Iger: I'd love to!
    Threedee Shepherd: Send me and e-mail to mark@3demb.com and I'll reply
    Pia Iger: thanks, 3D.

    I was puzzled by below green lines popped up on my screen.

    WatchDog v1.4 GROUP shouts: EJECTING Shadow Carver FROM PARCEL
    WatchDog v1.4 GROUP shouts: EJECTING Shadow Carver FROM PARCEL
    WatchDog v1.4 GROUP shouts: EJECTING Shadow Carver FROM PARCEL
    WatchDog v1.4 GROUP shouts: EJECTING Shadow Carver FROM PARCEL
    WatchDog v1.4 GROUP shouts: EJECTING Shadow Carver FROM PARCEL
    Pia Iger: what is the watchdog?
    Threedee Shepherd: watchdog?
    Pia Iger: on my chat window, it says 'WatchDog v1.4 GROUP shouts: EJECTING Shadow Carver FROM PARCEL'
    Adelene Dawner: ah - I have that muted - it's a security system owned by a neighbor.
    Threedee Shepherd: Somewhere out there, is a parcel that does not allow visitors and the watchdog is a "sensor" that ejects them.
    Pia Iger: oh. I got it . Hi, Corvi.

    Corvi joined us.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi, Pia!
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi all.
    Pia Iger: You are brave, sit right by the lions:)
    Adelene Dawner: ^^
    Adelene Dawner purrs at Corvi ^.^
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods solemnly.
    Threedee Shepherd: Hi Corvi
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi, 3D. Hi Adelene.
    Adelene Dawner: ^.^

    A period of silence.

    Pia Iger: Adelene, are you packed for this weekend?
    Adelene Dawner: Not yet
    Adelene Dawner: Getting there.
    Adelene Dawner: I have everything, in approximately one place, it just needs to be put together.
    Threedee Shepherd: just starting, here, though I did reserve a car earlier tonight
    Adelene Dawner: (I'm still hoping BF takes my 'hint' and gets his crap out of the closet to the point where I can get to my small suitcase)
    Pia Iger: a little obstacle:)
    Adelene Dawner: a little obstacle with the potential to turn into a big obstacle; BF's obstinate about stuff like that :P
    Threedee Shepherd: Now, I am feeling the pulse of my blood in the those brain vessels and its like wings flapping
    Adelene Dawner: ^.^
    Adelene Dawner will give Three a few more days before she reminds him not to get too distracted by the special effects. ^.^
    Pia Iger: 3D, is it exciting to notice that , or just reassuring?
    Threedee Shepherd: Us neuroscientists like brain special effects. They are data :)
    Adelene Dawner: hehe
    Threedee Shepherd: Interesting question. Once it would have been frightening. Now in the calmness of meditation it is acceptable and interesting.
    Pia Iger: how long has this been occuring?
    Threedee Shepherd: about 10 days

    Steve came in.

    Adelene Dawner: Hi Steve
    Threedee Shepherd: Hi Steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello
    stevenaia Michinaga: thre Ade, Pia
    Pia Iger: Hi, Steve.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi, Steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: and anyone else who hasn;t rezzed
    stevenaia Michinaga: oh, hi Corvi
    Threedee Shepherd: We are talking about inner sensations around my brain that are starting to accompany my meditative moments
    stevenaia Michinaga: inner sensations?
    Threedee Shepherd: physical sensations in the membranes around my brain that I become aware of
    stevenaia Michinaga: like breathing, heart beating and brain enclosure
    Threedee Shepherd: mmhmm
    stevenaia Michinaga: things you feel within yourself , or things you sense but may not be physically real
    stevenaia Michinaga: or.. I could read the log...smile
    Threedee Shepherd: I think they are physically real. What is interesting is that without doing anything obviously different, I am *bringing them on* with meditative moments
    Adelene Dawner: Which is documented as being possible - well known phenomenon in autistics with heightened senses.
    stevenaia Michinaga: it could it be your quietness that makes these seem louder?
    Threedee Shepherd: mmhmm
    Threedee Shepherd: Not sound, physical *pressure*
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
    Threedee Shepherd: do others here have any unusual sensations during meditative times?
    Adelene Dawner: There's not much that registers as 'unusual' any more, for me, so I can't say much. Anybody else?
    stevenaia Michinaga: just a general heightened awareness of whatever may have been subtle
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I don't meditate enough to have unusual sensations.
    stevenaia Michinaga: but no creeping brain membrane for me
    Threedee Shepherd: creeping is almost the right word, to
    Pia Iger: I would like to notice more of the internals.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: but I have that sense of my blood vessels changing at times.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: like a blush in the brain.
    Threedee Shepherd: mmhmm, that fits
    Threedee Shepherd: yes, that's a neat way to put it :)
    Pia Iger: interesting. but I need to prepare for tomorrow. If there is any more log, can some one add on wiki afterwards?
    Threedee Shepherd: night Pia
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: night, Pia.
    stevenaia Michinaga: night Pia
    Pia Iger: night, everyone.

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