2009.05.26 19:00 - Appreciate the paint

The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu --. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu --.

Intro

Eos Amaterasu: Hi Fortune!
Fortune Crystal: Hi Eos
Eos Amaterasu: I haven't met you here before - have you played here?
Fortune Crystal: yes, I come often. Sometimes I come at the other sessions
Eos Amaterasu: Ah :-)
Fortune Crystal: welcome Stevenaia
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Stevenaia
stevenaia Michinaga: hello 

Sounds and Dots

stevenaia Michinaga: just stopped by to listen
stevenaia Michinaga: sometimes the birds are enough
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Eos Amaterasu: tweet
Eos Amaterasu: listening is nice 'cause you can listen without listening _to_ anything
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, the spaces between the sounds are also nice to listen too
Fortune Crystal: nods
Fortune Crystal: welcome Pema
stevenaia Michinaga: when what you hear when you meditate is the same as after and before it becoems one continuous moment, no diferent when meditating or not
Eos Amaterasu: Hello Pema
stevenaia Michinaga: hello pema
Pema Pera: Hi Eos, Steve, Fortune!
Pema Pera: Nice to meet you, Fortune!
Eos Amaterasu: When you're attending, listening, the sounds can come from that big space of listening...
Eos Amaterasu: and not have left that space
Eos Amaterasu: that's Mozartean :-)
stevenaia Michinaga: I will try that next time I hear Mozart
Eos Amaterasu: (remembers that scene in The Shawshank Redemption where the whole prison community stops to listen to the Mozart aria...)
Pema Pera: sorry to miss the beginning of your exchange, but what you just said, Eos, reminds me of your email about appreciation -- how it can arise spontaneously, as something much bigger than a kind of commentary.
Eos Amaterasu: Yes, that seems to be appreciation through not commenting, which allows more phenomenality to come up
 

Painting and the Paint

Pema Pera: one image that comes to mind is to watch a painting, and then to switch the attention from the painting to the paint
Pema Pera: one can appreciate both, and when appreciating the paint, there is no longer any emphasis on the meaning of the painting
Fortune Crystal: I like that example Pema
Pema Pera: (not that we should forget the meaning, but rather that we have the option to deemphasize it)
Eos Amaterasu: That's very nice. With the forms of the painting arising in interplay of the qualities of the paint and myself
Pema Pera: yes, so we can appreciate ourselves too :-)
Fortune Crystal: :-)
Eos Amaterasu: that seems to be the perhaps unexpected message
Pema Pera: btw, Fortune, I just looked at the chat log of the previous session on the wiki, and I really enjoyed your comment:

"Fortune Crystal: Often times I'll realize that I do something unusual on SL (go counter to a rule/habit that I have in RL) and then Ill try the unusual thing in RL and find nobody really even notices that I changed my action. so SL helps me find a "weakness" or whatever you call it, try it out on SL,try it out on RL and then learn from that.:

Fortune Crystal: Thanks!
Pema Pera: we can view our whole life as a laboratory, to playfully try things out -- and dreams too, and SL too, etc
Fortune Crystal: SL is another way of appreciating ourselves (like your paint idea) in that we recreate limitations that we set in the past.
Pema Pera: yes
Eos Amaterasu: it makes things in RL more visible and also more transparent
Pema Pera: yes, it reminds me of the many roles we are playing in RL, constantly . . . .
stevenaia Michinaga: roles? like layers of paint?
Fortune Crystal: :-)
Pema Pera: more like clothes you put on and take off
Pema Pera: (or like paint if you like to keep changing the painting :-)
Eos Amaterasu: how you swirl
stevenaia Michinaga: your paint metaphor makes me think of a serrat painting more layers (dots) of paint than painting
Pema Pera: yes, and the space between the dots . . . .
Fortune Crystal: also those pictures which are made up of microscopic pictures to make a larger image. Not sure what they are called.
Eos Amaterasu: we tend to think we're dots
Pema Pera: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: there is an artist whos does that with portraits
Pema Pera: I'll have to leave, lunch in RL coming up soon
Eos Amaterasu: we are kind of that way considering the billions of life forms that make up "each" of us
Fortune Crystal: Bye Pema
Pema Pera: Good seeing you all !
stevenaia Michinaga: bye pema
Eos Amaterasu: bye Pema
Pema Pera: bfn
Fortune Crystal: very true Eos
stevenaia Michinaga: we are the paint
Eos Amaterasu: there's a lot of being / beings happening to make us up :-)
Eos Amaterasu: not to mention our surroundings, or what we consider to be outside us
Fortune Crystal: Its nice to know that we can pick which every color of paint we want to be at any moment and still have a masterpiece painting to represent our existence
Eos Amaterasu: !?!
Eos Amaterasu: we are painted with appearances, with sensory strokes, ...
Eos Amaterasu: I'm wondering, have you ever done the 9 secs every 15 minutes over some period of time?
Fortune Crystal: and to go off what Eos said, when one individual looks at another's painting, they get an added touch up to their own painting. we all paint each other's painting.
Fortune Crystal: what is the 9 seconds thing you speak of?
stevenaia Michinaga: it is explained in the notecard I gave you
Eos Amaterasu: Eos gives Fortune a Notecard
Fortune Crystal: Thanks
Eos Amaterasu: whups!
stevenaia Michinaga: and on the wiki site
stevenaia Michinaga: http://playasbeing.wik.is/Information/Play_As_Being_in_a_Nutshell
Fortune Crystal: I'll take a look at the card and website. I must go for now. Wonderful meeting you both, Stevenaia and Eos.
Eos Amaterasu: Great to meet you - ciao!
stevenaia Michinaga: hope to see you again
Fortune Crystal: :-)
stevenaia Michinaga: do you have the PaB notcard to hand out?
Eos Amaterasu: I have two, one of which is specific to these sessions, and the other, Kira Play as Beiong v 1.2, is more about the 9 secs...
stevenaia Michinaga: yes
stevenaia Michinaga: ok
stevenaia Michinaga: for now I will leave the log in your fine hands
stevenaia Michinaga: time for me to go
Eos Amaterasu: Me too, actually, ciao!