2009.05.29 19:00 - The Pain and Joy of Humor

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Dakini Rhode. The comments are by Dakini Rhode.

    Adams, Eos, Travieso, and I began the session on Travieso's signal...

    Travieso Sella puts on his discussion glasses
    Dakini Rhode: I guess I can begin the session :)
    Dakini Rhode: Has everyone been at these chats before?
    Travieso Sella: I have, yes.
    Adams Rubble raises hand
    Eos Amaterasu: ditto
    Dakini Rhode: :)
    Adams Rubble: Nice to nmeet you Travieso
    Travieso Sella: you as well
    Dakini Rhode: Do you have any questions or comments about playasbeing?

    ===> o look !!! <===

    Adams Rubble: It is close to my first year here
    Travieso Sella: oh congrats
    Adams Rubble: June 5


    Travieso Sella: not I, Dakini
    Dakini Rhode: are you still blogging?
    Adams Rubble: yes, can you believe it?
    Dakini Rhode: wow
    Adams Rubble: I can't
    Adams Rubble: hehe
    Dakini Rhode: you were an enthusiastic blogger
    Adams Rubble: not so enthisiastic anymore, just persistent :)
    Dakini Rhode: :)
    Dakini Rhode: I can't really blog at work, so I'm a bit stuck
    Dakini Rhode: no free time :)
    Adams Rubble nods
    Adams Rubble: When I stop regularly at work, I get more done
    Adams Rubble: helps m focus
    Dakini Rhode: i actually find it takes me time to reorient my thoughts
    Dakini Rhode: so i feel like i don't get more done, i feel like i do more churning
    Adams Rubble: we are all so different and all so the same :)
    Dakini Rhode: truly :)
    Dakini Rhode: what we're doing may be a bit different, too :)
    Adams Rubble: yes

    Talk of stopping as Steve and Karoz join us.  Steve arrives bouncing on a big, red ball.

    Adams Rubble: Hi Steve :)
    Eos Amaterasu: Adams, what is stopping, re [19:05] Adams Rubble: When I stop regularly at work, I get more done
    Adams Rubble: the nine second pauses
    Eos Amaterasu: (stevenaia arives on a ....? smiling red face?)
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Adams, Eos
    Adams Rubble: Hello Karoz
    Travieso Sella: stevenia
    Karoz Blogger: Hi.
    Travieso Sella: karoz
    Dakini Rhode: haha i thought i heard a boing
    Dakini Rhode: i need one of those!
    Eos Amaterasu: meaty beaty big and boucny
    Eos Amaterasu: bouncy
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Dakini, Travieso
    Dakini Rhode: hi Steve
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Dakini Rhode: hi Karoz :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: it is friday...grins
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Karoz
    Karoz Blogger: Hey. Was a Baker Bloch here before?
    Dakini Rhode: well i don't know
    Karoz Blogger: This looks very familiar.
    Dakini Rhode: were you here before?
    Dakini Rhode: you look familiar
    Karoz Blogger: My user.
    Karoz Blogger: Tron talk.
    Eos Amaterasu: acts as avatar
    Dakini Rhode: getting back to your question, Eos
    Dakini Rhode: are you familiar with the 9 sec practice?
    Eos Amaterasu: Yes... I have been wondering what happens if you actually do it every fifteen minutes
    Adams Rubble: sometimes amazing thinngs :)
    Dakini Rhode: you turn into Pema
    Eos Amaterasu: it is hard because I tend to get caught up in things
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Adams Rubble: Hasn't worked for me Dakini. hehe
    Dakini Rhode: that was silly of me
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: You get long hair?
    Dakini Rhode: i think that's from eating carrots
    Karoz Blogger: Are we doing the 9 secs. now?
    Adams Rubble: in a minute times 10
    Dakini Rhode: in 1 minute, we'll take a 90 sec pause
    Travieso Sella: ah that was an exceptioinally enjoyable silence for me
    Dakini Rhode: how so, Trav?
    Travieso Sella: Well, silence may not be the operative word here. The music I was listening to seemed to match up quite well with it.
    Dakini Rhode: Adams or anyone else, feel free to jump in here, as I'm a bit rusty :)
    Dakini Rhode: the basic practice...

    I guess Karoz noted the silly mood some of us found ourselves in.  Well, it was a Friday night...

    Karoz Blogger: What is the role of humor in this group?

    Eos Amaterasu: To get to the other side?


    Dakini Rhode: as we do it, is to stop for 9 secs, and drop what we were doing
    Eos Amaterasu: :-0
    Adams Rubble: I will give Kaaroz a notecard :)
    Dakini Rhode: mentally
    Karoz Blogger: karoz. :)
    Dakini Rhode: if you're carrying something you don't need to drop it

    saved by Adams' notecard...

    Travieso Sella: HUmor is the only thing we oppose utterly


    Karoz Blogger: Ha ha.
    Dakini Rhode: :)
    Dakini Rhode: here am trying to be all serious :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: ..smiles, humor is part of the "Play" that works so well here
    Dakini Rhode: here's a thought
    Dakini Rhode: humor comes from sadness
    Eos Amaterasu: :-(
    Karoz Blogger: Nah. Comes from joy.
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: or from tension
    Eos Amaterasu: :=|
    Karoz Blogger: Intellectual humor comes from knowledge that we do not know all.
    Karoz Blogger: So we laugh.
    Eos Amaterasu: 0
    Eos Amaterasu: ^_^
    Adams Rubble: Hello Victoria
    Karoz Blogger: We do not know all.
    Karoz Blogger: :)
    Travieso Sella: hi victoria
    Dakini Rhode: hi Victoria
    stevenaia Michinaga: tension released, relaxation arrives
    Eos Amaterasu: hi victoria
    Dakini Rhode: i don't actually see victoria
    Eos Amaterasu: relaxation, that's somewhat appreciation: your relax, and let it happen al around you
    Eos Amaterasu: all
    Travieso Sella: she poofed
    Eos Amaterasu: the cheshire cat lets it all drop
    stevenaia Michinaga: like smiles and good feelings, they tend to be "caught " by others
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: humor can be a sudden 1 second
    stevenaia Michinaga: and a laugh can spread even w/out knowing the joke
    Eos Amaterasu: the bird is chirping right through me
    Karoz Blogger: Did Jesus laugh?
    Travieso Sella: Irony, I can tell you...
    Travieso Sella: If you look up 'irony' in the dictionary, it says ';see irony.'
    Eos Amaterasu: ricercar
    Karoz Blogger: I am surrounded by beauty. He.
    Karoz Blogger: :)
    Adams Rubble wishes everyone a fond good night :)

    Eos Amaterasu: "If we can't have sanity, we can fake it with humor. Humor gives you the same distance from the situation, the same metaview, only laughing is easier than sanity and possibly more fun." — St. Jude
    Travieso Sella: cya
    Eos Amaterasu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jude_Milhon
    Dakini Rhode: be well, Adams :)
    Karoz Blogger: Humor is essential because we do not know all.
    Eos Amaterasu: & maybe we cannot know all
    Eos Amaterasu: but it all keeps happening all around us
    Eos Amaterasu: [19:21] Dakini Rhode: humor comes from sadness
    Karoz Blogger: Nah.
    Karoz Blogger: Joy.
    Eos Amaterasu: can u say more, Dakini?

    I stop pretty well at times...

    Dakini Rhode: if i can rouse myself from my 90 sec slumber :)
    Dakini Rhode: is humor truly the same as joy? (i erased a lot there)
    Karoz Blogger: Sure. Can be.
    Dakini Rhode: joy seems simple, uncomplex
    Karoz Blogger: Joy is all.
    stevenaia Michinaga: joy is acceptance and appreciation
    Karoz Blogger: These are easy quesetions.
    Karoz Blogger: Joy is being.
    Karoz Blogger: Joy is unconditional.
    stevenaia Michinaga: like love?
    Karoz Blogger: Sure.
    Eos Amaterasu: joy let go is unconditional
    Karoz Blogger: How?
    stevenaia Michinaga: when is joy not let go?
    Eos Amaterasu: cause u think it's conditional on that which you don't want to let go of
    Dakini Rhode: and yet humor, there is something first that you perceive as not funny, then there's a shift, and a surprise, and that is why you laugh
    Eos Amaterasu: aha , the shift!
    Karoz Blogger: They say aliens, out there, are more intellectual than us. Does this mean they have a humor we can't understand as well?
    stevenaia Michinaga: like the British?
    Karoz Blogger: He.
    Karoz Blogger: Yeah.
    Dakini Rhode: ah i was thinking of mexicans
    stevenaia Michinaga: you don;t have to travel far to see humor you don't understand
    Karoz Blogger: British are sometimes old souls.
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Kenji
    kenji Pookes: Hello
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Kenji
    Dakini Rhode: hello Kenji
    Karoz Blogger: Ty. I enjoyed this.

    So much here I wish we had explored more, in retrospect.

    Eos Amaterasu: the shift that happens in humor... like the 9 secs?
    Dakini Rhode: interesting question
    Eos Amaterasu: when you slip on a banana peel....
    Eos Amaterasu: for 9 secs....
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Dakini Rhode: funny thought :)
    kenji Pookes: I'll be back in a while. Not following this.
    Dakini Rhode: poofed before i got my thought out :)
    Dakini Rhode: why is slipping on a banana peel funny?
    Eos Amaterasu: UPsets the normal apple cart?
    Dakini Rhode: could be painful
    Eos Amaterasu: Yes, a lot of humor seems to play with pain
    Dakini Rhode: i mean you could break something
    stevenaia Michinaga: strange that some pain causes you to laugh
    Dakini Rhode: eos i'm thinking pain is a better word than my word sadness
    Eos Amaterasu: really...
    Eos Amaterasu: I wanted to explore "sadness" more....
    Eos Amaterasu: which seems to have a quality of softness, vulnerability
    Eos Amaterasu: and so close to letting go, again
    Dakini Rhode: maybe sadness is one reaction to painfulness
    Eos Amaterasu: maybe some sense of helplessness
    Dakini Rhode: sadness and helplessness, yes
    Dakini Rhode: sort of a not quite letting go
    Dakini Rhode: holding on to pain a bit
    Eos Amaterasu: but realizing you have to let go, or things already have let go
    Eos Amaterasu: even the pain might be more tangible
    Eos Amaterasu: or better cause more tangible, something to hold
    Dakini Rhode: things i find humorous almost always contain that element of sadness, or pain if you will, if i look hard at them
    Dakini Rhode: like someone making a complete ass of themselves
    kenji Pookes: Dr. Strangelove
    Dakini Rhode: do you think it's ok for the blog i said that?
    Dakini Rhode: typed
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods
    Dakini Rhode: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: it convays the point perfectly
    stevenaia Michinaga: sometime I laugh at myself for being that complete ass
    Dakini Rhode: yes!
    Dakini Rhode: agreeing with the feeling, not that you're the complete ass
    Dakini Rhode: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: smiles, I understand
    Eos Amaterasu: catching yourself being a complete ass can be funny :-)
    Dakini Rhode: but with the potential to be socially painful
    stevenaia Michinaga: usualy funnier when someone points it out to you

    Feeling the parameters of the experience of humor...

    Eos Amaterasu: social spaces are great for suspending us
    Eos Amaterasu: we don't quite know how to be
    Eos Amaterasu: the me game becomes more heightened and visible
    Eos Amaterasu: as well as the who's you ? game
    Eos Amaterasu: and what are we sharing?
    Eos Amaterasu: which could be just that suspension, openness
    stevenaia Michinaga: I must go, thank you for sharing in your humor and joy
    stevenaia Michinaga: and pain that makes us laugh
    Dakini Rhode: thank you, steve and be well :)
    Eos Amaterasu: thanks for the great big red ball :-)
    Dakini Rhode: i need one of those
    Eos Amaterasu: (stevenaia bounces up and down a few stories)
    Dakini Rhode: :)
    Dakini Rhode: very little gravity :)
    Dakini Rhode: i need to be going, myself
    Dakini Rhode: thank you for the intruiging (sp?) thoughts
    Dakini Rhode: intrigue?
    Dakini Rhode: anyway
    kenji Pookes: Good night all. This has been, since I got here late, mostely confusing. But I am usually mostly confused.
    Dakini Rhode: thanky you
    Dakini Rhode: :)
    Travieso Sella: _/!\_
    Eos Amaterasu: Thank you all, and sweet dreams, or wakenings

    Nice way to close.

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