2010.04.02 07:00 - Wol Dreams a Day Off, Decisively :)

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza Madrigal. The comments are by Eliza Madrigal, joined by Bleu, Yakuzza, SophiaSharon, Eos, Paradise, Eden, Lucinda, Zen, and Wol. :) 

    Alternate titles for this full and remarkable session included "Depends on How You're Wired", "Being Billie Holiday", "World Wide Web for Wol", "My Cat is My Guru", "We Give Reasons Later", "Before We Start Running Scripts", "I rarely think but I make lots of decisions", and "To Decide or Not to Decide, That is the Question."  

    It all starts simply enough, with questions and comments about the new SL viewer... 

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi yakuzza :))
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey eliza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: How is your day going?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey eos,bleu,ssl
    Eliza Madrigal: Eos! A nice surprise to see you at a morning session :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hey, Bleu! :)
    Bleu Oleander: hi everyone
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sharon!
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi gang!
    Eliza Madrigal: Wow, Nice....
    Eliza Madrigal: And WOL!?!?!
    Eliza Madrigal smiles!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: morning everyone :))
    Eliza Madrigal: Morning :)))
    Wol Euler: hello everyone
    Eos Amaterasu: It's "Good Friday" here, a day off, so I can join in :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah.... that's true....
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, same here :)
    Wol Euler: same here.
    Wol Euler: four days off!!!!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yay :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I should know this... the kids have been out of school all week, and I've been sleeping late :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Still, great to see everyone
    Bleu Oleander: feels more like a 1pm group
    Eliza Madrigal: Sharon is still partying... early morning champagne....
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes its great :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: Sorry I missed the party yesterday!
    Eliza Madrigal: Well, you are here now!
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I've been enjoying reading reflections... like yours last night Bleu (read the log) :)
    Bleu Oleander: hi Eden
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi eden
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eden! :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: HI Eden
    Bleu Oleander: yes, it was a nice session
    Wol Euler: hello eden
    Bleu Oleander: it's a good time to reflect
    Eden Haiku: HI everyone:)
    Eliza Madrigal: Eden, I hope SL is kinder to you today
    Eden Haiku: There was a bug. I had to repair the hard disk. And now I'm using the new viewer!
    Eliza Madrigal: Ooh!
    Eliza Madrigal: Well, glad you figured it out
    Wol Euler cheers

    We notice that Eos is appearing differently these days, and Eden shares a decisive moment...

    Eos Amaterasu: The beta viewer destroyed my body; I'm not really myself any more
    Eden Haiku: And cancelled my trip to Paris a few minutes ago ;)))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oooh
    Bleu Oleander: oh no
    Wol Euler: oh wow, you aren't ;/
    Eliza Madrigal: Eos, and you can't figure out why?
    Eliza Madrigal: Eden... ah.... sorry to hear that
    Wol Euler: get on the SL website, log in, and submit a ticket to get yourself restored from a backup.
    Eos Amaterasu: I thought I had save my last outfit, but apparently not. Oh well, heh heh
    Bleu Oleander: a new you perhaps?
    Eden Haiku: Well, it is better. Been talking with my boyfriend who is already in Paris (he is a poet too) and he says it won't create any problem. He knows the people who were inviting me. And I really have to settle after my trip to India.
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, I see. It is that you feel not quite ready for the trip..
    Eliza Madrigal: and want to stay with the cat? :)
    Eden Haiku: Yes, And now I feel I am on vacation. Yippie!:)))
    Wol Euler: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Yay! :)
    Wol Euler: proving that it's a state of mind, not a place.
    Eliza Madrigal: Absolutely
    Bleu Oleander: cheers!
    Eden Haiku: Yes, I think the cat made the decision. Be decisive, be a cat!:)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Wol Euler: cats are very good at "I WANT"
    Eden Haiku: They know already: know what is.
    Eliza Madrigal: My cat is very good at climbinging onto papers I'm working with....
    Bleu Oleander: dogs are too!
    Eden Haiku: And they see clearly: even in the dark.
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Wol Euler: :)
    Bleu Oleander: my puppy is chewing on me as we speak

    We fall into discussing the theme "Be decisive, Know what is, See clearly"


    Eliza Madrigal: Eden and I have been very affected by Eos's session I think....
    Eden Haiku: The one that wakes you up at 5 hey? Again this morning?
    Bleu Oleander: yes!!
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eden Haiku: Oh...
    Eden Haiku: Yes, this Be decisive, know what is, see clearly is very inspiring. The new viewer 's chat window a little less..
    Wol Euler: hello zen
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey zen
    SophiaSharon Larnia: HI Zen
    Wol Euler: the new viewer is a washout IMHO
    Zen Arado: Hi All
    Eden Haiku: Hello Zen.
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zen :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes its awful
    Bleu Oleander: hi Zen
    Eliza Madrigal: Wol, I do love that you can copy/paste from the bar... and the scope is a bit wider...
    Wol Euler: built to improve the first-ten-minutes experience of newborns, but crappy for everyone else
    Bleu Oleander: what are the main problems with the new viewer?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: navigation :)
    Wol Euler: yep
    Eden Haiku: No wheels.
    Wol Euler: buttons are missing, information is missing
    Eliza Madrigal: the pop outs take lots of room, too
    Eden Haiku: Lots of room.
    Wol Euler: the camera controls dialog is FOUR TIMES larger and functionally inferior
    Bleu Oleander: wow, makes me want to change to it right away! hehe
    Zen Arado: the chat window is too small to contain much dialogue
    Eden Haiku: I went back to viewer one and it crashed again, so I came back to the new one...
    Wol Euler: the "v2.0" app I switch to will be named "Emerald" :)
    Zen Arado: you can copy paste with Emerald
    Eden Haiku: And it is confusing to see all the pictures instad of just the names.
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, everyone keeps suggesting emerald so I guess that's the one....
    Bleu Oleander: is Emerald the best viewer for sl?
    Wol Euler: IMHO yes, but I haven't tried snowglobe which also has its supporters
    Eden Haiku: Emerald, is it easy to download?
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Wol Euler: lemme get the URL
    Wol Euler: http://modularsystems.sl/downloads.html
    Eliza Madrigal: I've hesitated (not very decisive of me) to use emerald... not techie and it isn't the 'mainstream'....
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks, Wol
    Eden Haiku: Thank you Wol.
    Wol Euler: oh but it naerly is. The viewer is nearly identical with the "old" SL viewer, just a few added features
    Wol Euler: it uses the same opensource code base
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, okay... maybe a project for this weekend then :)

    Eden brings tech into decisiveness, and Sharon's comment gets wheels turning...

    Eden Haiku: Technology is a good field to be decisive into :)
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Eos Amaterasu: Sometimes you decisively step over the edge
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Eden Haiku: ;)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: deciding is the hardest step
    Eden Haiku: Or the easiest?
    Eos Amaterasu: maybe letting go of result
    SophiaSharon Larnia: depends on how you're wired?

    Eos Amaterasu: and then it's easier to be choiceless
    Eos Amaterasu: we are wired in different ways
    Eden Haiku: It feels a bit like jumping into a stream and learning to swim.
    Eliza Madrigal: Actively choiceless
    Eos Amaterasu: that's part of the delight in PaB
    Zen Arado: 100 foot pole
    Eos Amaterasu: sky moving in pool

    :) Feeling that this topic is pertinent to current circumstances, I try to expose the illusoriness of seeming hinderances... 

    Eliza Madrigal: there are some decisions I made years ago which I've yet to let play out fully... that's an odd thing
    Eos Amaterasu listens
    Zen Arado: you aren't crashing today Eden?
    Eliza Madrigal: Just thinking about whether decisiveness is the hardest part....
    Eden Haiku: No . Took Apple Care and they helped me repair the disk on the phone. 10 minutes.:)
    Eliza Madrigal: or maybe I thought I decided something :)
    Zen Arado: decisions and revisions
    Zen Arado: ok good Eden
    Eden Haiku: Sorry, Eliza, I had missed your line about decisions taken a long time ago?
    Eliza Madrigal: ... or like some decisions are made, but still appear unmade on the surface...

    Eos Amaterasu: staying in that kind of openness that's beyond the everyday concerns, that's decisiveness, that's the everyday practice.... that's hard

    Zen Arado: maybe it is bad to decide too far ahead?
    Zen Arado: yes Eos
    Zen Arado: decisions seem rigid somehow
    Zen Arado: take away spontaneity
    Zen Arado: flexibility
    Zen Arado: ?
    Bleu Oleander: need to make some decisions though
    Eden Haiku: Decisions are there to take every step of the way, anyway isn'it?
    Eliza Madrigal: Well.... that's the thing... this kind of decisiveness... settleness... as Eos described in the session... is a calm place in which spontaneity is 'freer'?


    Zen Arado: maybe we should only make decisions when we have to for practical things in life
    Eliza Madrigal: well we are making decisions all the time whether we are aware of it or not, aren't we?
    Zen Arado: true
    Eliza Madrigal: So clarity of awareness seems the thing...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: slips away quietly... bye all :)
    Eos Amaterasu: Yes, often the decisions come first, or are already there, and we give reasons later
    Zen Arado: bye SS
    Bleu Oleander: bye Sharon
    Eos Amaterasu: Bye Sharon
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Sharon :) Nice to see you

    Eden Haiku: The analogy with art is pretty clear I think: when you paint Zen, you take micro-decisions all the time, which color to apply, where on the painting, with which kind of brush and so on, Isn'it ? decisions, decisions, decisions, And then you know when the painting is finished. And you see the result.

    Zen Arado: hmmm yes Eden and Eliza
    Eos Amaterasu can't resist sharing this image of WU http://www.flickr.com/photos/boydsshufa/3133796006/
    Zen Arado: but small decisions don't seem like decisions
    Eden Haiku: Wonderful Eos!
    Eden Haiku: They don't Zen?
    Zen Arado: nice Eos
    Eliza Madrigal: Heh, Great!
    Zen Arado: seems a iimit to words here
    Eden Haiku: I know what you mean, teasing you :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, yes Zen.... know what you mean... its like they are off the page
    Zen Arado: ok :)
    Eos Amaterasu: like the notion of words off the page
    Zen Arado: really we are always making decisions but the word seems to mean something about something you sre going to stick to from now on?
    Eliza Madrigal: Thinking of the flow/creativity state, which stops when one thinks "Am I in the flow... Is this it?"
    Wol Euler nods.
    Eos Amaterasu: we were talking about it more as a state of being: be decisive

    Bleu Oleander: stick to as long as it is useful

    Zen Arado: yes it implies a lot of thinking too?
    Eos Amaterasu: no thinking
    Zen Arado: I have been thinking and have reached a decision....
    Bleu Oleander: no thinking??
    Eos Amaterasu: decisiveness gets pregnant
    Eden Haiku: I rarely think but I make a lot of decisions :))
    Zen Arado: getting too analytic :)

    I pull a quote from the session...

    Eliza Madrigal: I loved this part.... :

    Eos Amaterasu:

    It's good and bad, happy and sad
    sunny weather and rainy weather... you let it all happen,
    neither pushing away nor pulling it in, and not ignoring it either
    that's a state of being
    being like a mountain on which are grasses, and trees, and rocks,
    and clouds, and goats, and rain
    but the mountain is there


    Eliza Madrigal giggles @ Eden
    Zen Arado: yes nice Eos
    Eden Haiku: Likes the goat especially...:)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Eden Haiku: Many of them.
    Eliza Madrigal: Some of the issue in thinking about decisions seems to be taking a linear sense of them.... rather than this kind of picture of cultivation and care...?
    Eos Amaterasu: yeah, be the godfather of the situation :-)
    Eden Haiku: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Zen Arado: going with the flow - no decisions there?
    Eden Haiku: Good point Zen..
    Eden Haiku: What would you say Eos?
    Eos Amaterasu: the flow goes through you, within you and without you :-)

    Calls for clarifying...

    Eden Haiku: Once we jumped into the flow then what?
    Bleu Oleander: be decisive, but no decisions? not sure i understand what you are saying
    Zen Arado: I am going off decision making atm :)
    Wol Euler: "you can never jump into the same flow twice" :)
    Eden Haiku: True Wol ;)
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Is the mountain caring for the goats and wildlife, making decisions?
    Eliza Madrigal smiles @ Wol...nodding
    Eos Amaterasu: Blue, then decision is natural,elemental, not even _your_ choice
    Bleu Oleander: so other entities decide for one and one goes with that?
    Zen Arado: I used to be indecisive but now I'm not so sure :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    Bleu Oleander: ha!
    Zen Arado: yes there's the rub Bleu

    I have some questions to ask Eden's cat...

    Eden Haiku: A cat makes a decision for you and you feel liberated.;)


    Zen Arado: finish up going along with the decisions of others
    Bleu Oleander: (don't think I want my puppy making decisions for me)
    Eden Haiku: My cat is my guru.
    Eden Haiku: The soul of my soul.
    Eden Haiku: A deeper and wiser part of no-self.

    Eliza Madrigal: I don't feel I've quite wrapped my normal brain around the idea either, except that it seems to me that from a place of deep settling and trust, decisiveness can flow more easily, creatively.... less stuckness and fewer traces that need to be cleaned up...
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, Eden... like daemons in the Dark Materials books... :))
    Eden Haiku: Deep settling and trust: i like that.
    Eden Haiku: That would be the moutain?
    Eos Amaterasu: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: or throw yourself in the lap of mama universe
    Eden Haiku: Panchamama.

    Bleu Oleander: that's where we are by default?
    Eliza Madrigal: and one is an active part of that... without being the 'Do'er in a foreceful way?
    Eos Amaterasu: coming from Being
    Eden Haiku: By default, nice way to put it Bleu!
    Eliza Madrigal: hm! yes
    Bleu Oleander: default, before we start running scripts
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Zen Arado: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Being the painting... letting details arise playfully
    Zen Arado: but do they arise or do we decide them?
    Eliza Madrigal: I think we decide to let them?
    Zen Arado: depends where the decision comes from maybe

    Eos Amaterasu: we are not separate from their arising, which is why we "practice"

    Eden Haiku: Before running our little scripts yes, Even the grand ones,,,d ones..:)
    Zen Arado: from being or from rational thought
    Bleu Oleander: rational thought is a part of being
    Zen Arado: true Bleu
    Eliza Madrigal: Ahhh... there... not separate, yes not even rational thought is separate
    Eos Amaterasu: yes, Bleu, indeed
    Zen Arado: maybe I am still thinking of Right brain/left brain activities
    Bleu Oleander: right / left is all same brain
    Zen Arado: exactly

    We have some fun with Pema, then become Billie Holiday because well, you can do that in SL, and in dreams...

    Eos Amaterasu: Being can take the form of an astrophysicist :-)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: your alt should help you work with that a bit, Zen :)
    Bleu Oleander: (perhaps the highest form of being? hehe)
    Eliza Madrigal: hahaha... well pema was wearing a crown yesterday...
    Zen Arado: :)
    Bleu Oleander: if the crown fits ....
    Eden Haiku: Did someone take a picture of the crowning of our King?
    Bleu Oleander: yes
    Zen Arado: being can be a rock guitarist
    Eden Haiku: She can be a woman too. Being. :)))
    Eden Haiku: A black woman.
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: Black Madonna
    Eden Haiku: Maybe Billie Holliday is Being.
    Eliza Madrigal: Of course Billie is Being
    Eden Haiku: Don,T explainnnnn....
    Eos Amaterasu: motorcycle black madonna, two-wheel gypsy queen
    Eden Haiku: ;-)))
    Zen Arado: like it :)
    Zen Arado: Jan will be a black woman next time you see her
    Zen Arado: way more cool :)
    Eliza Madrigal puts on Fael's hairflower whenever she thinks of Billie....
    Zen Arado: she was a great artist
    Wol Euler: oh, let me give you a lm to a wonderful skins store.
    Zen Arado: sure
    Zen Arado: a female JImi
    Zen Arado: maybe we all have roles we would like to have tried in RL
    Zen Arado: ty Wol

    Eliza Madrigal: wheels still turning on decisiveness... seems a line between letting Being see/decide... and sometimes noticing when one is abdicating responsibility thinking they are doing that but not really....
    Eliza Madrigal: Not a question that can be answered perhaps, but wanted to articulate it :)
    Zen Arado: good point Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Paradise! :)
    Zen Arado: think I do that too often
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye for now everyone
    Bleu Oleander: seems we make a lot of decisions before we are aware of them
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi paradise
    Zen Arado: Hi Paradise
    Bleu Oleander: bye Yaku
    Eliza Madrigal: What a great day... so many able to make it that aren't often :))))
    Wol Euler: hello paradise
    Eliza Madrigal: Great session last night, Paradise
    Bleu Oleander: hi Paradise
    Zen Arado: bye Yaku
    Eden Haiku: http://bit.ly/cUOp9E (Link to Don't explain :)
    Paradise Tennant: hiya wol .. bleu.. yakuzza ..eliza.. zen .. eos .. eden gtsy everyone :) and bye yakuzza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Indeed, Bleu! Hidden decisions
    Eos Amaterasu: HI Paradise!
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, thanks Eden :))
    Eos Amaterasu: This was a great, sparky session... must go, bye all

    So many titles generated in this session!

    Zen Arado: suggested title for session - playing with decisions :)
    Eden Haiku: Thank you Eos!
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Eos, thank YOU! :D
    Zen Arado: bye Eos
    Eos Amaterasu: Ciao!
    Paradise Tennant: bye eos :)
    Wol Euler: bye eos, take care
    Eliza Madrigal: I was thinking Billie as Being, Zen... hehe
    Zen Arado: ok :)
    Bleu Oleander: decide or not decide ... that is the question
    Zen Arado: has a better ring :)
    Eliza Madrigal: We'll see... maybe I'll make a nice long title...
    Zen Arado: it won't post then :)
    Eliza Madrigal sways
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Bleu Oleander: hey, gtg .... take care everyone :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bleu :)) See you soon
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks
    Zen Arado: I had to enter a new month yesterday
    Wol Euler: bye bleu, take care
    Paradise Tennant: take bleu have a great day :)
    Eden Haiku: Bye Bleu!
    Zen Arado: bye Bleu
    Wol Euler: yes, I noticed! you beat me to it zen
    Bleu Oleander: enjoy your days off!!
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Zen Arado: and it actualy worked !

    The prospect of a day off, and we have a visitor...

    Paradise Tennant: lovely the prospect of a day off !
    Eliza Madrigal: as for log titles, one would think long titles wouldn't work, but paradise has often proven that wrong! :)
    Wol Euler: yeah, really.
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Zen Arado: yes but when you are retired....I hate public hols now
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Eden Haiku: Just noticing your flower Eliza in your hair, just like Billie.
    Wol Euler: heheh
    Eliza Madrigal smiles... yes think I'll change into something wispy today....
    Eden Haiku: If i would know how to move my cam I would look at you closely...
    Eliza Madrigal: ::
    Eden Haiku: Letters yes...
    Wol Euler: hold down ALT, hold hte mouse key on her, move the mouse slowly upwards
    Wol Euler: move left or right to pan around the focus point
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sonia, Welcome to PlayasBeing :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Let me give you a note about our group...
    Sonia Tehani: thanks
    Zen Arado: Hi Sonia
    Paradise Tennant: welcome sonia :)
    Eliza Madrigal: We generally gather to talk about the nature of reality.... four times a day actually :)
    Wol Euler: hello sonia
    Sonia Tehani: thank you Paradise, nice to meet you all
    Eliza Madrigal: We record our sessions, Do you mind being included?
    Sonia Tehani: hello everybody
    Sonia Tehani: it's ok
    Eliza Madrigal: Great :)
    Paradise Tennant: today I believe the discussion was on how decisions get made .. :)

    Eliza Madrigal: Also, I wanted to mention to everyone that Maxine and possibly Pema will have a second TSK session on Sunday 1PM SLT...
    Paradise Tennant: but I arrived very late ..so I am not sure ..entirely
    Wol Euler: ooooh
    Paradise Tennant: wonderful read the log to their last one ..made it really clear
    Eliza Madrigal: I'll send a note to the group today
    Paradise Tennant: thank you eliza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes... Maxine has such a way of expressing things....
    Zen Arado: have we decided that decision making is good?
    Paradise Tennant: yes she really does .. very ..lucid .. and compelling
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at zen
    Eliza Madrigal: truly settles one into that restfulness we were describing earlier I think....
    Eliza Madrigal: Hehe, Have you Zen?
    Zen Arado: no - still undecided
    Eliza Madrigal: I've decided that decisions just are
    Paradise Tennant: the wu wei approach ?
    Zen Arado: but thats an oxymoron
    Zen Arado: I think
    Eliza Madrigal: paradox
    Zen Arado: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Doing by not doing isn't shutting 'off'
    Zen Arado: maybe it is the future length of time attached to the decision that is importamt?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes the time aspect seems really fascinating to me somehow....
    Eden Haiku: Thanks Wol. Welcome Sonia:)
    Eliza Madrigal: how much time we let play out, or... hmmm
    Zen Arado: should be made on the hoof ?
    Eliza Madrigal: on the hoof?
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe, love these expressions
    Zen Arado: um....as we go along?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Eden gives a window into her life and family, the context of her decision not to go to France next month ...

    Eden Haiku: I already see the good effect of my decision to cancel my trip to Paris.
    Eliza Madrigal: Do you Eden?
    Eden Haiku: My dad just called.
    Eden Haiku: Crying.
    Eliza Madrigal: Ohhhh
    Paradise Tennant: ouch
    Zen Arado: life decisions vs practical decisions
    Eliza Madrigal: (((eden's dad)))
    Eden Haiku: He bought some flowers for my Mom.
    Zen Arado: oh
    Eden Haiku: Wants me to go to the cemetary with him this afternoon.
    Wol Euler sighs
    Eden Haiku: I said yes.
    Paradise Tennant: smiles :)
    Wol Euler nods.


    Eliza Madrigal: Ah... you bring so much c omfort to him Eden
    Eden Haiku: And not I cant i have to this and that and this and that. :)
    Zen Arado: is it about your mother Eden?
    Eden Haiku: Yes, I think he needs me more than Paris needs me now :)
    Paradise Tennant: sends you and your dad a hug ..such a difficult passage .. the loss of a loved one ..
    Eden Haiku: And might as well need him more than I need Paris as well.
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Zen Arado: April in Paris
    Eden Haiku: It will be two years she is gone in May but some days are harder than others for him.
    Zen Arado: ah I see
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Eliza Madrigal: deciding to stay right where we are can sometimes be a leap
    Eden Haiku: Spoke on the silence sorry...:))
    Eliza Madrigal: not at all Eden.... thank you for sharing with us...
    Paradise Tennant: takes a very long time for all the levels of your consciousness to realize they are gone ... can be moments of intense grief much later.. when somehow it breaks through to a final understanding :)
    Eliza Madrigal: good reminders :)
    Eden Haiku: Being at the right place at the right time is so important,
    Wol Euler reaches across and gives your hand a squeeze.
    Zen Arado: anniversaries so hard
    Eden Haiku: Today is Good Friday. She always took him to the offices at church. That must make him nostalgic.;)
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh yes definitely.... holidays can stir so much....
    Eliza Madrigal: triggering years and years of memories in a single context
    Sonia Tehani: holidays are always a difficult moment, i think it could be helpfull staying with friends
    Eden Haiku: So I guess and I will get ready now. Thank you all for this beautiful morning session.
    Eliza Madrigal: Thank you Eden. Namaste'
    Zen Arado: yes friends are important at these times
    Paradise Tennant: be well eden :)
    Eden Haiku: Yes, Sonia.
    Zen Arado: bye Eden
    Sonia Tehani: bye Eden
    Wol Euler: bye eden, take care. Good wishes to your father
    Sonia Tehani: excuse me, it was mine problem i could not read wat eden whas writing?
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, you couldn't?
    Wol Euler: how odd.
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes I read her just fine Sonia
    Sonia Tehani: near her name was written mute
    Wol Euler: ah!
    Wol Euler: works as designed.
    Wol Euler: you muted her, presumably by accident
    Wol Euler: it works! :)
    Sonia Tehani: oh!
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: She's a wonderful read, unmuted...
    Eliza Madrigal: and hopes to see you again at PlayasBeing soon :))
    Sonia Tehani: that's why i was triyng to understand what you were saying but with difficults
    Sonia Tehani: :-)
    Sonia Tehani: sure i will
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Sonia Tehani: i like places like this
    Zen Arado: I don't even know how to do that
    Sonia Tehani: thank you paradise
    Eliza Madrigal: What interests you, Sonia?
    Paradise Tennant: I just sent you the log sonia hopefullly you will be able to read it now
    Sonia Tehani: i follows groups here where i live
    Wol Euler: it can easily happen by accident, the command is in the pie menu
    Sonia Tehani: osho groups
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, thanks Paradise
    Zen Arado: ah I see
    Sonia Tehani: and practice meditations and yoga frequently
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, yes Osho island is lovely
    Wol Euler: you can un-mute her too, in the View menu is "Unmute"
    Sonia Tehani: i'll take i look there too, i'm still young in SL :-)
    Sonia Tehani: thanks wol
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Well, welcome
    Wol Euler: yw
    Sonia Tehani: sorry for my english anyway :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: I haven't been there in a long while, since I've found PaB so compelling... must admit. Sometimes a friend has dances though
    Zen Arado: lots of Buddhists and meditators in this group too
    Eliza Madrigal: Your english is just fine, Sonia :) That's part of the joy of SL
    Sonia Tehani: :-)
    Paradise Tennant: yes really the wonder of it .. so much cross global communicating !
    Eliza Madrigal nods vigorously @ Paradise
    Eliza Madrigal: thinking of how many places pab-ers are from.... hm... yes its a whole new language
    Eliza Madrigal: 'from Being' as Eos might say ;-)
    Zen Arado: guess I better go
    Wol Euler: bye zen, take care.
    Zen Arado: spending too mch time in SL I think
    Paradise Tennant: nice to see you zen .. take care :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Zen :))
    Sonia Tehani: bye zen! :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: yesterday was an occasion... allowed :)
    Zen Arado: bye all
    Zen Arado: sure :)
    Eliza Madrigal: deicide to be indulgent sometimes...heh
    Wol Euler: or just go with the being-here flow
    Eliza Madrigal: MMM yes
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at wol

    Lucinda arrives, the topic turns toward dreaming & sharing...

    Paradise Tennant: hiya lucinda :)
    Wol Euler: hello lucinda
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Lucinda, Nice to see you :)
    Lucinda Lavender: hi all
    Sonia Tehani: hi Lucinda
    Eliza Madrigal: Sorry to miss you yesterday but the dancefloor and punchbowl are still up at the Square :)
    Lucinda Lavender: Ah,,, a busy day in the other life...
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    Sonia Tehani: i have to live you, very nice to meet you, hope to see you again
    Lucinda Lavender: I had a hard time stopping dancing last night
    Sonia Tehani: :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice to meet you also, Sonia
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Paradise Tennant: take sonia ..thank you hope to see again soon :)
    Paradise Tennant: *care
    Sonia Tehani: have a nice day and... feel your breathe always! :-)
    Wol Euler: by sonia
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Lucinda Lavender: bye Sonia
    Eliza Madrigal: :)


    Ain't No Body's Business if I do...

    Eliza Madrigal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Fsx...eature=related
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at eliza ..now that is a great song :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hearbreaking lyrics at parts.. and Billie singing with such a joyful step...
    Eliza Madrigal: seems like 'truth' :)
    Paradise Tennant: some music you can just breathe :)
    Paradise Tennant: becomes integral to you awareness :)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes... what an interesting thing...
    Wol Euler nods.
    Eliza Madrigal: music is like a holiday, in the same sense we were talking about with eden perhaps... evoking embedded memories....
    Lucinda Lavender: stirring
    Eliza Madrigal: mmm, yes

    Eliza Madrigal: Lucinda, may I ask you a question about dreaming?
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: In your group, when you go 'back' to a dream again and again, do you find that you can access one from years before with more and more details?
    Eliza Madrigal: I am wondering about the lines between remembering, and interpretation I think
    Lucinda Lavender: well if you mean go back in the sense of speaking the dream at dream circle...I have rarely spoken a dream twice or more that one circle mtg.
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, I see... yes I think I was just curious to see patterns over a long time
    Lucinda Lavender: In one dream circle the stone moving around the circle several times takes the consciousness to a deeper place sometimes
    Eliza Madrigal: nods...

    Lucinda Lavender: Dream circle is partly to let the other dreamers be the wise ones.

    Eliza Madrigal: interesting, how so?
    Lucinda Lavender: ...and to let go of the dream as personal.
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah!!
    Eliza Madrigal: so one tells the dream as a way of letting it go into the circle, in a sense?
    Eliza Madrigal: fascinating
    Lucinda Lavender: Instead of lookin yes
    Lucinda Lavender: I think it can be personal...tho
    Eliza Madrigal: and rather than there being one 'tribe leader' or some such, then its understood that each has wisdom to share...
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Lucinda Lavender: !
    Eliza Madrigal: seems very scientific... peer-to-peer :)))
    Lucinda Lavender: ah!
    Lucinda Lavender: it is sometimes a personal dream...
    Lucinda Lavender: I choose the ones that are less so...
    Eliza Madrigal: I always think of Pila (not sure if you've met Pila) saying 'We need each other's magic"
    Paradise Tennant: smiles yes Pila has wonderful insight :)
    Lucinda Lavender: yes I have met... and yes that wisdom is an infusion of energy
    Eliza Madrigal: Knowing that you 'could' share a personal dream is nice :)
    Eliza Madrigal: like a safety net
    Lucinda Lavender: there are several levels.
    Lucinda Lavender: and usually we have to admit that to ourselves at least
    Lucinda Lavender: to be truthful
    Eliza Madrigal: hm, thank you for elaborating Lucinda... challenging to be deeply truthful with what 'feels' private, like dreams perhaps
    Lucinda Lavender: I think there are dreams that we as individuals understand the energies of some more than others


    Eliza Madrigal: Paradise, I remember that you were starting to remember dreams... still going?
    Paradise Tennant: occassionally but much less than others seem to be able to :)
    Paradise Tennant: plus I only seem to remember the really nice ones !
    Paradise Tennant: smiles selective screening :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Well, hard to complain about that! :D
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Paradise Tennant: one of my favourites in the last year was .. sitting in a field with a man and a woman at a picnic bench
    Paradise Tennant: in the dream I knew them ..though when I woke up I did not remember who they were
    Paradise Tennant: they started to sing ..
    Eliza Madrigal: Ohhhh
    Paradise Tennant: in kind of bell tones very beautiful harmony
    Paradise Tennant: I joined in ..
    Lucinda Lavender: lovely!
    Eliza Madrigal: how lovely!
    Paradise Tennant: the woman looked very surprised that I could sing
    Paradise Tennant: we sang the song till it ended and the land tone quivered in the air
    Paradise Tennant: then we all smiled at each other
    Paradise Tennant: and I woke up
    Wol Euler: lovely :)
    Eliza Madrigal: wow, that is just beautiful

    Paradise Tennant: always find when I do remember a dream I feel like someone has given me a gift

    Lucinda Lavender: yes!
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, smiling
    Eliza Madrigal: and perhaps a gift that is to be shared with others at times...
    Lucinda Lavender: yes!
    Eliza Madrigal: your dream touches and teaches something very special, Paradise :)
    Lucinda Lavender: healing
    Eliza Madrigal: indeed
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Paradise Tennant: I had a dream about death once too
    Lucinda Lavender: creates bridges between people and worlds...
    Paradise Tennant: was hovering near a ceiling light in an emergency ward
    Eliza Madrigal: oh my...
    Paradise Tennant: my body was on a guerney
    Lucinda Lavender: observing?
    Paradise Tennant: yes ..
    Paradise Tennant: my hands were in great shape nice manicure ..jewellery sparklling the rest of me not so good
    Paradise Tennant: 3 doctors were standing around me
    Lucinda Lavender: sometimes it can be that as a dreamer we are dreaming in to someone lses experience
    Paradise Tennant: I have on my donor card legalese for take whatever you can use but want 3 opinions I am dead
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Wol Euler nods.
    Paradise Tennant: wonders
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Paradise Tennant: the feelling of being out of body
    Paradise Tennant: was incredible
    Paradise Tennant: did not want to go back
    Paradise Tennant: felt
    Paradise Tennant: free
    Paradise Tennant: full of curiousity
    Paradise Tennant: very big spacious
    Paradise Tennant: then the dream advanced I was walking on a construction site
    Eliza Madrigal: AH... yes that's the part which most interests me... the feelings evoked in dreams... like we can actually taste something deeply real ....
    Paradise Tennant: by a white van
    Paradise Tennant: turned to see a bobcat (earthmover) come out of no where very fast .. woke up on impact
    Paradise Tennant: first thought ..
    Paradise Tennant: was that was a gift
    Lucinda Lavender: in a sense construction was then evoked by the experience
    Paradise Tennant: am very careful of white vans ..and no longer wear nail polish :)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Wol Euler: :)+
    Paradise Tennant: yes the time line was mixed
    Lucinda Lavender: freedom first...then construction
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, have had dreams like that too.. backwards
    Eliza Madrigal: Interesting idea Lucinda!
    Paradise Tennant: think I experienced the accident last and the effect first
    Lucinda Lavender: and movement
    Lucinda Lavender: viewing the potential from an ahead position
    Eliza Madrigal: hmm, yes
    Eliza Madrigal: accessing a different kind of time, certainly
    Paradise Tennant: but none of the negatives we associate with death or physical hurt totally different perspective
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: My son talks about this with me.... 'heaven time', he says, is like in dreams
    Paradise Tennant: wow eliza say more :)
    Eliza Madrigal: a decade in a flash, and more packed in than we can possibly remember...
    Eliza Madrigal: and also visa versa
    Eliza Madrigal: He's 11 :)
    Lucinda Lavender: nice...
    Eliza Madrigal: your dream certainly seems like what people who've had NDE describe, paradise...
    Eliza Madrigal: quite profound
    Paradise Tennant: yes it does doesn't it ..much more powerful when you get to experience it


    Paradise Tennant: i am much less worried about dying .. though still concerned for those you leave behind ..think now they are the ones with the more difficult passage .. dealing with the loss .. death may really be .. a liberation of sorts or at least not the negative we envision ..
    Eliza Madrigal: not to be morbid but dreaming helps prepare us for death.. for letting go....
    Lucinda Lavender: yes..
    Wol Euler nods.
    Eliza Madrigal: That's a wonderful peace to have, Paradise, what a comfort
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Paradise Tennant: a gift
    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Winding up the session, I realize that title-ing really is an issue! This was a multiverse of a session, after all!

    We use the remainder of our time wisely, constructing a letter to Wol's employer...

    Eliza Madrigal: wow... now I really don't know what to name this log... hahahahha
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Wol Euler: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Maybe simply "Wol has a day off"
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Paradise Tennant: perfect!
    Wol Euler: awwwwwww <3
    Paradise Tennant: she does not get enough of them :)
    Wol Euler: it's true.
    Eliza Madrigal: absolutely... we need to write a group letter in the Times
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Eliza Madrigal: Dear Employer of Wol,
    Paradise Tennant: hmm the stuttgart .. daily press!
    Wol Euler: :))))))
    Wol Euler: Stuttgarter Nachrichten
    Wol Euler gets out her pencil
    Eliza Madrigal: We feel that Wol's creativity is being hindered by not being allowed to relax into a deeply settled state
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Paradise Tennant: I agree!
    Wol Euler: hehehehe
    Paradise Tennant: work is disruptive at the intensity
    Wol Euler: don't forget the sleep deprivation.
    Paradise Tennant: *that
    Eliza Madrigal: You may find brilliance emerges as Being is indulged
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Paradise Tennant: or you allow you body to breathe ..and live :) not just work :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: Therefore we request long stretches of sleep for Wol, and plenty of playtime :)
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Wol Euler cheers
    Paradise Tennant: yes .. we are circulating a petition!
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    Wol Euler: so sweet of you <3
    Paradise Tennant: which will criss cross the globe :)
    Eliza Madrigal: !!
    Eliza Madrigal: World Wide Web for Wol
    Lucinda Lavender: putting it out into the universe on your behalf...
    Paradise Tennant: there the title!
    Wol Euler: :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Eliza Madrigal laughs
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah.... brilliant time-playing-with son has come downstairs asking for a shopping trip...
    Paradise Tennant: we wil do an aspiration :) for peace .. and leisure for you :)
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Wol Euler: sounds good, eliza
    Paradise Tennant: ahh thanks so much eliza just a great session :)
    Wol Euler: and thank you Paradise
    Eliza Madrigal: Wonderful to spend this Friday morning (for me) with you all
    Lucinda Lavender: yes!
    Eliza Madrigal: (((Friends))) See you soon
    Wol Euler: bye eliza, shop well
    Eliza Madrigal: And you Rest Well!
    Paradise Tennant: smiles .. thanks lucinda .. wol :) really enjoyed it :)
    Lucinda Lavender: bye eliza..
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye for now, waving
    Paradise Tennant: waves back
    Wol Euler: Lucinda, would this morning be a good time to talk about your temple?
    Lucinda Lavender: we coiuld try...
    Wol Euler: well, if you have the time ...
    Paradise Tennant: smiles excuses herself quietly to go garden :)
    Paradise Tennant: be well :)
    Wol Euler: bye paradise, say hello to the flowers
    Lucinda Lavender: I have an email received be well..
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks for your dream image...
    Paradise Tennant: ok trying to do something different but afraid I am a colour junkie!
    Wol Euler: :)


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