2011.08.31 07:00 - Maybe butterfly has its own theory

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    The Guardian for this meeting was oO0Oo Resident. The comments are by oO0Oo Resident.


    oh hello fc :)
    FcSeeker: Hello Sfindra 0 Adur Dee
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): :-)
    Dee (dieter.heslop): Halllooooo
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): do many people come to these meetings
    Adur Gaelyth: nice sitting poses lol
    FcSeeker: oh so sweet 'halloo'
    Dee (dieter.heslop): :)
    FcSeeker: sometimes
    Dee (dieter.heslop): I'm dee
    FcSeeker: someties nobody
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): ah the blue have different poses
    Adur Gaelyth: yes ツ
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): hi samuo :)
    Dee (dieter.heslop): Ö.Ö MEEP Ö.Ö
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): :-)
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): hi susan :)
    Dee (dieter.heslop): what are we doing

         exploring aging

    FcSeeker: at least we are getting older if nothing else
    Susan Sorensson (iwandertoo): waves
    FcSeeker: hi Susan
    Dee (dieter.heslop): lol
    Dee (dieter.heslop): you make getting older sound like an asset...
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): it could be in some ways
    FcSeeker: is asset something good or bad ?
    Dee (dieter.heslop): i think by definition it's something useful
    FcSeeker: (my english is poor)
    FcSeeker: ah
    FcSeeker: then imo it is good
    FcSeeker: then I also agree <3
    Dee (dieter.heslop): heeh
    Dee (dieter.heslop): I try to appreciate being any bit wiser, for being older
    Dee (dieter.heslop): thought physically getting old sucks.
    Dee (dieter.heslop): lol
    FcSeeker: hi Dash
    Dash (dash.earthboy): hey y'all
    FcSeeker: not nesessarely
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): hi dash
    Susan Sorensson (iwandertoo): waves
    Adur Gaelyth: Hi Dash ツ
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): are you refering to wrinkles dee ? lol
    FcSeeker: I addmitt that there's much such that human body gets not-so-good to use by age, but some can live very old and still have good body also
    Dee (dieter.heslop): LOL
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): slows down a little, but thats just somethign new to get used to
    Dee (dieter.heslop): wrinkles, eyesight failing, aches, pains, hernias, arteriosclerosis, dementia, etc. etc.
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): a long list...
    FcSeeker: have met also many young people who's body is not so good to use because it's not used ever
    Dee (dieter.heslop): yes
    Dee (dieter.heslop): but that can be helped,
    Dee (dieter.heslop): many things about getting old cannot
    Dee (dieter.heslop): oh and teeth
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): yep, can keep it working well with some mantenance
    Dash (dash.earthboy): i know my maternal grandfather/gmother were in their 90s without significant health issues when each died suddenly
    Dee (dieter.heslop): Dee nods
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): ah teeth : /
    Dee (dieter.heslop): lol
    Dee (dieter.heslop): and it's insane what dentists charge
    Dash (dash.earthboy): Grandpa smoked cigars & drank whiskey to his dying day
    Dee (dieter.heslop): it really angers me
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): Sfindra runs her tongue over her few remaining ones
    Dash (dash.earthboy): and had a full head of hair :)
    Dee (dieter.heslop): Dee nods @ dash
    Adur Gaelyth: lol
    Dash (dash.earthboy): Grandma smoked a pipe :)
    Adur Gaelyth: lol
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): cool :)
    FcSeeker: <3
    FcSeeker: each one has own kind of path <3
    Adur Gaelyth: very true, fc
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): so all these sessions are recorded, where are they stored, and can anyone read them back ?
    Dee (dieter.heslop): so - the philosophy here is to strip down ourselves - possessions, etc, and see what we have left?
    Dash (dash.earthboy): hey Yaku
    Dee (dieter.heslop): sessions go on the website
    FcSeeker: Hello Yaku
    Samúð (oo0oo): Hi Fc, Susan, Dash, Adur, Sfindra, Dee
                          Sorry for the delayed greetings.
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): hey everyone
    Samúð (oo0oo): Hi Yaku
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): hi yaku
    Susan Sorensson (iwandertoo): waves
    Adur Gaelyth: Hi Yaku
    Dash (dash.earthboy): :)@Sam
    Dee (dieter.heslop): hello oOOOo - love your name haha
    Dash (dash.earthboy): hey Arch
    Samúð (oo0oo): Adur, Sfindra and Dee, Have you been to Play as Being before?


    15 minute --BELL-- Please observe 90 seconds of silence.


         aging and dying

    FcSeeker: hi Arch
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): hey arch
    Dee (dieter.heslop): that was interesting
    Arch (archmage.atlantis): All I learned of love was how to shoot at someone who outdrew ya.........Nimbus is dying
    Adur Gaelyth: I enjoyed that silence ツ
    Dee (dieter.heslop): I didn't
    Dee (dieter.heslop):it make me squirm
    Arch (archmage.atlantis): I found him asleep in his litter box
    Adur Gaelyth: who is Nimbus?
    Arch (archmage.atlantis): I put him in bed
    FcSeeker: oh so sad
    FcSeeker: so sad
    Dee (dieter.heslop): nimbus is a cat?
    Arch (archmage.atlantis): Not sad, Fc, not sad....17 yo for a cat is old
    Dee (dieter.heslop): yes it is
    Adur Gaelyth: ah ok
    Dee (dieter.heslop): that's a long happy life to be sure
    Dee (dieter.heslop): for a cat
    Samúð (oo0oo): Adur, Sfindra and Dee, are you OK with having your names and comments included in our wiki record?
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): yep
    Adur Gaelyth: sure ツ
    Dee (dieter.heslop): ok
    Arch (archmage.atlantis): I feel lucky I was able to pick him up and place him in a place he and I were together
    Samúð (oo0oo): kk thanks
    Dee (dieter.heslop): as long as i don't embarass myself hehe
    Dash (dash.earthboy): condolences for your loss Arch
    Dee (dieter.heslop): yes hugs archmage

          preoccupied IMing notecards, I wasn't fully present with Arch's news about his cat Nimbus

    Samúð (oo0oo): just to clarify Arch, Nimbus is still alive?
    Dee (dieter.heslop): thanks arch
    Dash (dash.earthboy): what the hospice calls "actively dying"?
    Dee (dieter.heslop): akk :\
    Arch (archmage.atlantis): Actively dying is a good word
    Arch (archmage.atlantis): Chester is beside me........odd how cats can be
    Arch (archmage.atlantis): I have to go now
    Dee (dieter.heslop): what's he doing?
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): take care arch
    Dee (dieter.heslop): ok bye arch
    Dash (dash.earthboy): well wishes Arch
    Arch (archmage.atlantis): Blessings and Namste, friends
    Susan Sorensson (iwandertoo): waves
    Adur Gaelyth: ok see you Arch ツ

         Pets

    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): an animal can we part of our family
    Dash (dash.earthboy): yes Yaku
    Samúð (oo0oo): tc Arch
    FcSeeker: waves to Arch
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): my mother is living alone only with a dog and she´s very attached to it, pet´s are nonjudgemental and usually comfort most of the time, well there are exceptions
    Dee (dieter.heslop): Dee nods
    Yaku (yakuzza.lethecus): i also recieved a tp, cya soon everyone
    Dee (dieter.heslop): bye yakuzza
    Adur Gaelyth: Eckhart Tolle says that pets keep their owners sane
    Adur Gaelyth: see you Yaku
    FcSeeker: waves
    Dash (dash.earthboy): bye Yaku
    Dee (dieter.heslop): Dee <------- has no pet, is insane
    Dee (dieter.heslop): hehe
    Dash (dash.earthboy): i hear ya Dee
    Adur Gaelyth: I'm quite insane too lol
    FcSeeker: you can take one in SL <3
    Dash (dash.earthboy): hey San
    FcSeeker: Hello san
    Dee (dieter.heslop): i used to raise butterflies
    Dee (dieter.heslop): they are the sweetest creatures!!
    FcSeeker: aww
    Dee (dieter.heslop): and they have personality when you get to know them
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): lots of people like to take their dogs for walks, but i take me for walks lol
    FcSeeker: Yes
    Adur Gaelyth: oh wonderful Dee
    Susan Sorensson (iwandertoo): waves
    Dee (dieter.heslop): may i share a picture with everyone?
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): hi santoshima
    FcSeeker: I'de like that
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): sure dee
    Samúð (oo0oo): Hi Santo
    Adur Gaelyth: Hi Santoshima ツ

     

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                                             Dee's pet butterfly "Herbert"


    FcSeeker: so beautiful <3
    Dee (dieter.heslop): that was one of my pet butterflies
    FcSeeker: thank you
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): oh beautiful
    Samúð (oo0oo): Nice pic. Thanks
    Adur Gaelyth: oh beautiful, Dee!
    Dee (dieter.heslop): that was Herbert :) he was born with crumpled antennae
    Dee (dieter.heslop): yes their eyes are amazing
    Samúð (oo0oo): Indeed
    Dee (dieter.heslop): it's funny - the front most legs become like a nose
    FcSeeker: hi mila
    Mila (milakel): hi :)
    Dash (dash.earthboy): hey Mila
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): hi mila
    Samúð (oo0oo): Mila :)
    Mila (milakel): *floats in on her balloon*
    Dee (dieter.heslop): now the sad part is,
    Dee (dieter.heslop): they only live for 8 weeks
    FcSeeker: <3
    Dee (dieter.heslop): very short
    Adur Gaelyth: oh
    Mila (milakel): ah, thought dee was aga from behind :)
    Mila (milakel): nice spot there, fc :)
    FcSeeker: <3<3<3
    Dee (dieter.heslop): Noooooo!

    Mila (milakel): Mila eeps

     


    15 minute --BELL-- Please observe 90 seconds of silence.



    Dee (dieter.heslop): Ö.Ö MEEP Ö.Ö
    Adur Gaelyth:
    Samúð (oo0oo):

         butterflies, to philosophy

    Dee (dieter.heslop): so butterflies I think are an interesting motif for reality
    Mila (milakel): so what chairs are you going to build for the art being?
    Dee (dieter.heslop): what do butterflies perceive?
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): could we ever know
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): unless we were one
    Dee (dieter.heslop): I have a theory,
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): k
    Dee (dieter.heslop): it's only part my theory,
    Mila (milakel): they just flap their wings and look pretty
    Dee (dieter.heslop): that animals experience less consciousness that humans
    Dee (dieter.heslop): hehe
    Dee (dieter.heslop): but it's still there
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): or maybe a different part of the spectrum ?
    Dee (dieter.heslop): this is related to the Penrose-Hammeroff theory of consciousness
    Adur Gaelyth: I don't think they experience less consciousness than we do
    Dee (dieter.heslop): spectrum hmm that's interesting
    Mila (milakel): dee, tell more about the theory please
    Dee (dieter.heslop): google, um, Orch-or theory of consciousness,
                                                        (Orchestrated Objective Reduction)
    Dee (dieter.heslop): but basically it comes down to the brain density leading to fewer "moments of consciousness"
    Adur Gaelyth: I'm sure when animals experience pain, they feel it as keenly as we do
    Dee (dieter.heslop): smaller brain => slower consciousness
    Dee (dieter.heslop): it's no good to the butterfly
    Dee (dieter.heslop): only to us
    Dee (dieter.heslop): maybe butterfly has it's own theory
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): does brain create consiousness or recieve it ?
    Dee (dieter.heslop): good question
    Mila (milakel): also, body size
    Adur Gaelyth: brains modulate consciousness ツ
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): so my head is in my mind ? lol
    Dee (dieter.heslop): but if you study animals a seemingly expressionless animal - you see their personality only in time
    Mila (milakel): brain tricks us into consciousness :)
    Dee (dieter.heslop): even a worm - if you spent long enough with it - you might see personality
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): do we infer this personallity ?
    Adur Gaelyth: personality is the opposite of consciousness
    Mila (milakel): dee, yes, it also works with inanimate objects
    Adur Gaelyth: personality is based on unconscious patterns
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): a pet rock
    Dee (dieter.heslop): :)
    Mila (milakel): pet ipad
    Dee (dieter.heslop): many interesting thoughts
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): my computer has a personality
    Mila (milakel): xiry cruz :)
    Dee (dieter.heslop): I come from a physics background so my view is of a somewhat "objective external reality"
    Adur Gaelyth: a newborn baby has no personality, yet he or she is conscious
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): hi xirana
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hello everyone:)
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): and my computer is definately not conscious
    Dee (dieter.heslop): adur have you been a mother?
    Samúð (oo0oo): Hi Xirana
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): MIlacruz :P
    Dash (dash.earthboy): not sure about that Adur, my son came out saying "Ma Ma..."
    Adur Gaelyth: no Dee ツ
    Dash (dash.earthboy): quite a personality as newborn :)
    Dee (dieter.heslop): I think moms might disagree with that statement
    Dee (dieter.heslop): yes
    FcSeeker: takes a humble bow
    FcSeeker: namaste
    Susan Sorensson (iwandertoo): (waves quietly...best to everyone)
    Dash (dash.earthboy): bye Fc
    Adur Gaelyth: oh I know what you mean... I didn't mean that all newborns are the same
    Dash (dash.earthboy): bye Susan
    Samúð (oo0oo): Bye Fc, Susan
    Adur Gaelyth: all newborns are unique
    Adur Gaelyth: yet their uniqueness is not what I call personality
    Dee (dieter.heslop): are newborns conscious?
    Dee (dieter.heslop): if so, why are there no memories?
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): bye bye :)
    Dee (dieter.heslop): byee :)
    Dash (dash.earthboy): Dee, some have a hard time remembering yesterday now :)
    Dee (dieter.heslop): hehe
    Adur Gaelyth: newborns have no idea about themselves, or how they are, or how they are... that's what I meant about personality
    Dee (dieter.heslop): i would call that consciousness
    Dee (dieter.heslop): and yet,
    Dash (dash.earthboy): agreed Dee
    Dee (dieter.heslop): I think there is an essence of something newborns know
    Dee (dieter.heslop): I have a sense of being even as a newborn
    Dee (dieter.heslop): no memory of course,
    Adur Gaelyth: so do you think newborns are not conscious, or do you think they have thoughts about themselves?
    Dee (dieter.heslop): more of an awareness of parental "forces" ?
    Adur Gaelyth: oh of course
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): an awareness yes
    Adur Gaelyth: awareness, sure
    Dee (dieter.heslop): i think we have an incomplete definition of consciousness
    Adur Gaelyth: who would deny that babies are aware?
    Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): I go now.... take care all:)
    Dash (dash.earthboy): bye Xirana
    Samúð (oo0oo): Samúð smiles at Xirana... Bye
    Dee (dieter.heslop): ok bye xirana :)
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): bye :)
    Dee (dieter.heslop): i will say this,
    Dee (dieter.heslop): i was adopted as an infant
    Dash (dash.earthboy): And Adur, that expression of their awareness springs from their personality :)
    Dee (dieter.heslop): and I'm absolutely convinced i was aware that my biological mother went away
    Adur Gaelyth: it's not possible to define consciousness, because consciousness is the essence of reality
    Samúð (oo0oo): interesting Dee

    Dee (dieter.heslop): it's certainly convolved with reality

     


    15 minute --BELL-- Please observe 90 seconds of silence.



    Dash (dash.earthboy): is this part of semiotics known as semantics?
    Adur Gaelyth: I love these silences ツ
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar)::-)
    Adur Gaelyth:they help the mind quiet down a bit ツ
    Samúð (oo0oo): *silences.. yes
    Dee (dieter.heslop): so i'm convinced that a newborn has the awareness to distinguish people around them, and I think consciousness and "being" has something to do with that level of interpersonal connection
    Samúð (oo0oo): mmm yes
    Samúð (oo0oo): well worth exploring
    Adur Gaelyth: what you call personality, Dee, I would call "being" or "essence"
    Dee (dieter.heslop): I like also to think that my butterflies "knew" me :)
    Adur Gaelyth: I'm sure they knew you ツ
    Dee (dieter.heslop): :)
    Dee (dieter.heslop): i would take one out and just let it sit on my leg
    Adur Gaelyth: also plants are aware of us when we look at them with full attention
    Dee (dieter.heslop): ahh
    Samúð (oo0oo): *!
    Dee (dieter.heslop): yes the old plant consciousness issue (giggles)
    Samúð (oo0oo): willing delicate focused present
    Adur Gaelyth: yes lol
    Dee (dieter.heslop): I don't know if plants are conscious or not - I don't remember ever being one :)
    Samúð (oo0oo): tendrils?
    Samúð (oo0oo): newborns
    Samúð (oo0oo): always arriving new
    Adur Gaelyth: I know they are conscious because I was God once... so I know lol
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): conscious, or consciousness ?
    Dee (dieter.heslop): it's interesting to see footage of plants sped up fast - they take on a whole new perspective to us
    Dee (dieter.heslop): you were God once?
    Adur Gaelyth: good point Sfindra
    Samúð (oo0oo): sentient
    Adur Gaelyth: it's more accurate to say that plants are consciousness... everything is
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): could there be anything that is not consciousness, and so then is to be conscious some aspect of that
    Dee (dieter.heslop): that is yet to be learned by science
    Samúð (oo0oo): other ways of knowing?
    Dee (dieter.heslop): some feel however that science's answer would merely be redundant
    Dee (dieter.heslop): yes the other way of knowing is through consciousness itself
    Dee (dieter.heslop): i reckon...
    Adur Gaelyth: to be conscious is maybe a matter of focusing consciousness
    Samúð (oo0oo): Samúð smiles
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): being
    Dee (dieter.heslop): aha
    Samúð (oo0oo): Samúð likes image of butterfly on leg
    Dee (dieter.heslop): consciousness may well be a property of the universe - like temperature, or electric fields
    Dee (dieter.heslop): we only observe conglomerations of it
    Adur Gaelyth: yes exactly Dee
    Adur Gaelyth: I believe it's the fundamental property of the universe
    Dee (dieter.heslop): yes that seems to be the trend in current research :)
    Adur Gaelyth: science will find that out sooner or later
    Adur Gaelyth: yes it is
    Samúð (oo0oo): in the mean time...
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): lol
    Dee (dieter.heslop): then of course certain laws, like "conservation of consciousness" - it can be neither created or destroyed
    Dash (dash.earthboy): pax et bonum y'all
    Samúð (oo0oo): Good to see ya Dash!
    Adur Gaelyth: there's no other way of explaining the fact that we are aware
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): bye dash :)
    Dee (dieter.heslop): sometimes I feel like i've inherited pieces of consciousness from people who have lived before
    Adur Gaelyth: science can't accoutn for awareness, so awareness has to be a fundamental property of reality
    Adur Gaelyth: see you Dash
    Dee (dieter.heslop): hmm
    Samúð (oo0oo): how does 'we' operate throughout consciousness?
    Dee (dieter.heslop): that's not a logical deduction adur
    Dee (dieter.heslop): science, at one time, could not account for lightning
    Adur Gaelyth: don't you think it's logical, Dee?
    Adur Gaelyth: consciousness is always there
    Dee (dieter.heslop): i agree it does make sense though
    Adur Gaelyth: and I mean always
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): does 'we' exist ?
    Adur Gaelyth: so, isn't it logical to deduce that it's fundamental?
    Dee (dieter.heslop): lightning is not fundamental though
    Adur Gaelyth: it must be more fundamental than electromagnetism or gravity
    Dee (dieter.heslop): there's many examples
    Dee (dieter.heslop): nono i disagree,
    Adur Gaelyth: but lightnings don't happen all the time
    Dee (dieter.heslop): there's simply no proof either way - consciouness could be composed of electromagnetism and gravity
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): am i creating this story of consciousness ?
    Adur Gaelyth: can you make a thought experiment where there is no consciousness?
    Dee (dieter.heslop): haha
    Samúð (oo0oo): Shall we let the pause open us to the unknown... and see if we come back as something other than 'we' thought 'we' were?


    15 minute --BELL-- Please observe 90 seconds of silence.


    Dee (dieter.heslop): meep!
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): lol
    Samúð (oo0oo): Samúð giggles
    Dee (dieter.heslop): hehe
    Dee (dieter.heslop): laughing is good :)
    Samúð (oo0oo): *
    Adur Gaelyth: Oh let me think... what were we saying? lol
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): lol
    Samúð (oo0oo): lol
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): meow !
    Dee (dieter.heslop): i agree with you though - i believe consciousness is very fundamental
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): Sfindra *pUrrrpUrrr~~*
    Samúð (oo0oo): Samúð smiles
    Dee (dieter.heslop): i think there's a physical mechanism to it also
    Dee (dieter.heslop): perhaps quantum
    Adur Gaelyth: why where we discussing this in the first place?
    Dee (dieter.heslop): why not?
    Dee (dieter.heslop): :)
    Adur Gaelyth: oh yes... butterflies ツ
    Dee (dieter.heslop): yes my precious butterflies
    Adur Gaelyth: yes...
    Samúð (oo0oo): It seems so much could be learned... simply by having the patience to watch a butterfly up close for an extended period of time.
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): transformation
    Dee (dieter.heslop): yes!
    Adur Gaelyth: yes Samud
    Dee (dieter.heslop): most people don't make the effort
    Dee (dieter.heslop): to see what is all around them
    Adur Gaelyth: yes...
    Adur Gaelyth: we think too much
    Samúð (oo0oo): Samúð nods
    Dee (dieter.heslop): about the wrong things lol
    Adur Gaelyth: too self-absorbed with our "problems"
    Samúð (oo0oo): what to accept, what to reject
    Adur Gaelyth: yes
    Dee (dieter.heslop): hmm yes accept/reject
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): making daisy chains in the mind
    Dee (dieter.heslop): yes
    Adur Gaelyth: ツ
    Samúð (oo0oo): effort to watch butterfly is choice beyond usual impulses to desire or aversion or ignoring?
    Dee (dieter.heslop): for some yes
    Adur Gaelyth: I wonder if butterflies get self-absorbed too.... maybe sometimes they do ツ
    Samúð (oo0oo): free will..
    Dee (dieter.heslop): i must rent and watch brainstorm again
    Dee (dieter.heslop): lol
    Samúð (oo0oo): I believe Dee said she had the sense that the butterflys 'knew' her.
    Dee (dieter.heslop): yes
    Dee (dieter.heslop): ok I shall go now :)
    Adur Gaelyth: oh yes, that's our only choice: attention in the present or attention in our thoughts about past and future, fears and desires
    Dee (dieter.heslop): coffee time hehe
    Adur Gaelyth: oh ok Dee
    Adur Gaelyth: nice meeting you ツ
    Dee (dieter.heslop): nice meeting you all too
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): ok dee, nice to meet you :)
    Samúð (oo0oo): ah... so good to meet you :)
    Adur Gaelyth: Milea looks so peaceful there floating with her baloon ツ
    Samúð (oo0oo): Peaceful mila
    Adur Gaelyth: she is asleep ツ
    Samúð (oo0oo): Hope to see you again... enjoy coffee
    Dee (dieter.heslop): thanks!
    Adur Gaelyth: bye Dee ツ
    Dee (dieter.heslop): coffee = greater consciousness hehehe
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): see you soon dee :)
    Dee (dieter.heslop): byeeeee
    Adur Gaelyth: which group does that tag come from, Sfindra?
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): im glad i found this place
    Adur Gaelyth: me too ツ
    Samúð (oo0oo): me three
    Adur Gaelyth: lol
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): this group
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): friends of play as being
    Adur Gaelyth: oh ok ツ
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): can join on the wall behiind
    Samúð (oo0oo): Adur, You can join Play as Being (the tag)
    Samúð (oo0oo): kiosk outside the pavilion has a place to join


    15 minute --BELL-- Please observe 90 seconds of silence.


    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): brb one moment, making tea
    Adur Gaelyth: ok ツ
    Samúð (oo0oo): The Play as Being wiki is a goldmine, if you have time and inclination to dip in. Many conversations about consciousness and many other vast topics.
     
     nice to have new people's perspectives too.. so :)
     
     meetings a 1 AM 1PM 7 AM 7 PM SLT
     Quite varied in theme, topic, mood

    Adur Gaelyth: wonderful ツ
    Samúð (oo0oo): :) from the profound to the silly... it all rezzonates in the pavilion of consciousness
    Samúð (oo0oo): playing as being
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): i wandered around yesterday and found the molecule theatre too
    Adur Gaelyth: ツ
    Adur Gaelyth: what's that?
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): ill show you after
    Adur Gaelyth: ok ツ
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): 'after'
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): lol
    Adur Gaelyth: ツ
    Samúð (oo0oo): You may wish to float up on single balloons and take a self guided tour (wear the headphones when you land). I'll give you an LM for the Balloon location.
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): oh yes :)
    Adur Gaelyth: ok ツ
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): the balloon trip was cool
    Samúð (oo0oo): Here you will see a box with flashing lights and above it a balloon
    Samúð (oo0oo): click the balloon to suspend from it
    Samúð (oo0oo): then click again to be on your way
    Samúð (oo0oo): :)
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): ok :)
    Samúð (oo0oo): and have fun!
    Adur Gaelyth: thank you ツ
    Samúð (oo0oo): There have been several performances, but reletively new ... quite exciting
    Adur Gaelyth: oh Dee is back! ツ
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): wb dee :)
    Samúð (oo0oo): The kind fellow who built this pavilion, also built Molecule Theater.. Storm Nordwind
    Dee (dieter.heslop): thanks :)
    Samúð (oo0oo): wb Dee
    Dee (dieter.heslop): meep!
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): i like the design here
    Adur Gaelyth: me too
    Samúð (oo0oo): It has always felt a kind of homecoming quality... here for me
    Dee (dieter.heslop): :)
    Samúð (oo0oo): hard to describe
    Adur Gaelyth: beautiful
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): for a while myself and some friends have been trying to create a place like this, but its already here !
    Dee (dieter.heslop): :)
    Samúð (oo0oo): in a way you did create it then.. found each other :)
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): true
    Samúð (oo0oo): yay
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): lol
    Samúð (oo0oo): You are most welcome to come at any time
    Sfindra (sfindra.belar): thank you :)
    Samúð (oo0oo): I will flutter on now, but so good to meet you all.. Dee, Adur, Sfindra :)


    15 minute --BELL-- Please observe 90 seconds of silence.


    Sfindra Belar: good to meet you samuo :)
    Adur Gaelyth: I like these photos
    Sfindra Belar: im going to check out the balloon ride
    Adur Gaelyth: oh great
    Adur Gaelyth: I'm coming too
    Sfindra Belar: kk :)
    Sfindra Belar: oh, its too close to tp to lol
    Adur Gaelyth: ok ツ
    Sfindra Belar: must be round here somewhere
    Adur Gaelyth: oh is it still recording?
    Sfindra Belar: yeah lol
    Sfindra Belar: testing testing ...
    Adur Gaelyth: what are you doing Sfindra? lol
    Sfindra Belar starts singing
    Adur Gaelyth: lol
    Sfindra Belar: ah ok ty

     

    What a delight it was being with this group, and to meet Dee, Adur and Sfindra

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